View Full Version : Getting diagnosed in Western Australia


melmo
12-07-08, 10:53 PM
hi,

I am new here.Just wondering if anyone in Western Australia knows about how to get diagnosed and treated for ADHD as an adult, the mental health system does not recognise ADHD. I guess private psychiatrists, refered by a doc; though i have rung a few and nobody wants to deal with ADHD and my doc doesnt even know what to do; any advice appeciated.

O and is there a search button around here, could not find it?

XxMichellexX
12-07-08, 11:06 PM
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Driver
12-07-08, 11:14 PM
Fellow Aussie here on the diagnostic trail.

Have a look to see if there are any ADD/ADHD Support groups in your area - they will know the ins and outs of getting diagnosed and should provide a list of supporting psychiatrists. There are also fellow Aussies on this board who hail from your great state - I hope they identity themselves to you and provide further details.

Yes, you will more than likely have to go to a private practice - public system is a bit behind.

Once you have the name of a psychiatrist (or a neurologist) to see, go see your GP and get a referral.

Medicare will rebate you $204 for your psych consult, provided you have a GP referral.

melmo
12-08-08, 12:46 AM
o its been a blonde day, the search thing is right there! oops lol.

I Rang LADS (the local support group).they reccomended a place, i rang up and they would only deal with ADHD if there is also another condition...and only as an inpatient, at $650 a day! thats realy not an option as a week there would be nearly 5grand!

hmm im sure it shouldnt be this difficult!

Driver
12-08-08, 01:06 AM
o its been a blonde day, the search thing is right there! oops lol.

I Rang LADS (the local support group).they reccomended a place, i rang up and they would only deal with ADHD if there is also another condition...and only as an inpatient, at $650 a day! thats realy not an option as a week there would be nearly 5grand!

hmm im sure it shouldnt be this difficult!

Is a Medicare rebate available? Will your GP say you've got depression/anxiety?

Driver
12-08-08, 01:24 AM
My only other advice is consult with pædiatricians and find out who they refer their ADHD patients too once they're 18.

melmo
12-08-08, 01:47 AM
hey a pediatrician sounds a good idea! i have a mate who has ADHD and just turned 18, i know who she saw as a kid, but not who now. (i dont wanna ask her as if i get meds she will want to abuse them. )

Medicare would cover a small amound of the costs..and only if they like the situation! so i think a private psych that isnt too expensive is a good idea.

Thank you for your advice :)

Ravenna
12-08-08, 08:26 PM
LADS (Learning and Attention Disorder Society) for a list of Pdocs who diagnose ADD/ADHD in adults.

http://www.ladswa.com.au/

Ravenna
12-08-08, 08:29 PM
There is a Dr Im trying to get in to see atm, Dr Ross Manners. You will need a referral from your GP.

He specialises in adult ADHD.

The Tdoc at LADS gave me a list of Drs to try, but my GP would only refer me to one, and he says this one is well respected in the field.

melmo
12-08-08, 10:17 PM
Hey thank u very much. Ill give that nme to my doc, he is pretty cool he basicaly told me to come back to him with a name as he couldnt find any. thank you so much! do u know how long the waiting period is?

Ravenna
12-09-08, 08:33 PM
At the moment Im looking at January for an appt. Good luck!

melmo
01-21-09, 12:19 AM
i finally got in to see dr ross manners in march :). the receptionist said to bring a parent (even though im 18?) and reports. i could only find my year 11 and 12 ones; will this be ok?

i dont know what to expect, anyone know?

Driver
01-21-09, 12:42 AM
i finally got in to see dr ross manners in march :). the receptionist said to bring a parent (even though im 18?) and reports. i could only find my year 11 and 12 ones; will this be ok?

i dont know what to expect, anyone know?

The parent and school reports are to try and establish an outsider's opinion of you; ADD'ers can be poor self-diagnosers as we simply cannot see things.

Newbie_at_38!
01-23-09, 08:17 AM
The parent and school reports are to try and establish an outsider's opinion of you; ADD'ers can be poor self-diagnosers as we simply cannot see things. Actually there are studies which suggest this is may not be the case. ADHDers can be very good at giving a true account of their childhood and adult experiences/syptoms; often better than other 'informants'. http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/reprint/157/7/1156

To the OP: I saw Dr Ross Manners on Thursday and had my diagnosis of ADHD confirmed(originally self-diagnosed and then tentatively confirmed by a Clinical Psych). He seemed to know his stuff.

I had been told (by the receptionist) that I would need school reports (I am 38), but I was unable to provide any. They have long since been lost! Dr Manners did ask me for them at the end of the consult and I explained that I couldn't provide them. It was not an issue.

All the best with your consult. Feel free to ask me any other questions.

Edited to add: LADS have an Adult ADHD Support Group. They meet the 3rd Tuesday of the month at the LADS premises in Nedlands at 7.30pm. Well worth a visit if you are interested. I've been going since I self-diagnosed in November (so have done the Dec and Jan meetings). It has been very helpful. Next one 17th Feb.

Driver
01-23-09, 08:43 PM
Actually there are studies which suggest this is may not be the case. ADHDers can be very good at giving a true account of their childhood and adult experiences/syptoms; often better than other 'informants'. http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/reprint/157/7/1156

I had a read of that study, but I don't feel it was conducted correctly. Their sample of subjects was biased:
Subjects were volunteers recruited from among the parents of
children undergoing assessment at The Hospital for Sick Children,
staff of the hospital, and friends and relatives of individuals
working at the hospital. Although the subjects were not assessed
for ADHD, a wide range of scores was obtained in both studies, indicating
that a portion of the subjects rated themselves as having
a considerable number of symptoms associated with ADHD.
Questionnaires were completed by the participants after the
study had been explained to them, and written informed consent
was obtained.

My emphasis was added. By briefing the subjects beforehand about the study, and then asking if they wanted to participate means you only get people who are familiar with ADHD already - and so will apply their own biases.

Good reading:
http://www.psychologicalscience.org/pdf/pspi/pspi5_3_3.pdf

Johnny123
01-25-09, 07:23 AM
It's alot worse being under 18 and having parents who just think you're lazy and unmotivated (No i'm not stoned all the time, i only get stoned when the time is right, holidays, long weekends, i get high because it helps me sleep and i can play guitar hero on expert) .