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pebs
01-11-09, 07:02 AM
My daughter (14) was diagnosed ADHD about 8 weeks ago. She had been having sessions with the psychiatrist and was about to be put on ritalin, then the psych said we can`t trial ritalin at the moment because she thinks my daughter may also have Cyclothymia.
I have never heard of this before but after looking it up on the internet it seems it is a milder version of bipolar disorder.
Does this mean her ADHD can never be treated because of the Cyclothmia, and will she have this disorder forever?
Any advice is appreciated.

EYEFORGOT
01-11-09, 01:43 PM
You can treat bipolar and ADD at the same time, it's just a matter of the right medications.

A lot of ADD symptoms and Bipolar symptoms overlap each other. She might feel it is best to treat the cyclothmia first to see how it helps (or doesn't) the ADD symptoms. It might help just enough to leave the ADD untreated with medication and use cognitive behavioral strategies instead.

Bipolar is not curable, only treatable. I'm not sure about cyclothmia.

pebs
01-11-09, 01:55 PM
Thanks for taking the time to reply.

The psych did mention something about cognitive behavioural therapy, were due back there this week. I`m sure she will explain everything to me then, she just wanted to get a second opinion before giving a formal diagnosis - but it does not stop me worrying in the mean time.

EYEFORGOT
01-11-09, 02:18 PM
I was not diagnosed with bipolar/ADD until I was thirty, even though symptoms had been there for a very long time (before I was 14). You are a wonderful Mom to see to her early on. She'll be ok, and because you're helping and supporting her, will have the tools to work with what's going on in her brain. She won't get "fixed" but she'll be able to press forward.

pebs
01-11-09, 04:21 PM
I knew from a very early age she was ADHD, it`s very hard to get a diagnosis in the UK! The new psych said she is having the other problems now because the ADHD was left untreated.

So do you take medications for both bipolar and ADD? And if so how effective are they?

gnbeg
03-16-09, 10:56 PM
My daughter (14) was diagnosed ADHD about 8 weeks ago. She had been having sessions with the psychiatrist and was about to be put on ritalin, then the psych said we can`t trial ritalin at the moment because she thinks my daughter may also have Cyclothymia.
I have never heard of this before but after looking it up on the internet it seems it is a milder version of bipolar disorder.
Does this mean her ADHD can never be treated because of the Cyclothmia, and will she have this disorder forever?
Any advice is appreciated.

I was just diagnosed ADHD and BP a couple of months ago. I am late 40's. (struggling admitting that I am closing in on the big FIVE-OH).

The BP diagnosis was a surprise in that I did not consider it going into my diagnosis. But after talking it through with my pdoc, it makes perfect sense. My pdoc never said I have cyclothymia, but it's basically the type of BP he has described me as having.

He has said numerous times since initial diagnosis that treating my ADHD will be futile until he gets the BP treated. He is treating my ADHD with adderall, but his focus in my meetings with him have been primarily on my depression. I'm currently taking seroquel for sleep and to level the peaks and valleys. And I'm on lamictal for depression.

I can trace my cycles back to early teens. I've spent a lot of years depressed and not really realizing it. Your daughter is blessed to get this diagnosis and to get the help she needs. Good luck.

EYEFORGOT
03-17-09, 12:33 PM
I knew from a very early age she was ADHD, it`s very hard to get a diagnosis in the UK! The new psych said she is having the other problems now because the ADHD was left untreated.

So do you take medications for both bipolar and ADD? And if so how effective are they?

I started taking Lamictal for my bipolar which over the years has titrated up to 400 mg. I was taking Straterra (~40mg) for my ADD. It worked but my own stubborness about not living with so many medications at my age I've gone off it and am just fumbling by with the ADD. Together they worked fine though. I did feel more focused/motivated and also had my moods stable, so I was much more functional.

Bird's Mom
03-13-13, 05:22 PM
My daughter (14) was diagnosed ADHD about 8 weeks ago. She had been having sessions with the psychiatrist and was about to be put on ritalin, then the psych said we can`t trial ritalin at the moment because she thinks my daughter may also have Cyclothymia.
I have never heard of this before but after looking it up on the internet it seems it is a milder version of bipolar disorder.
Does this mean her ADHD can never be treated because of the Cyclothmia, and will she have this disorder forever?
Any advice is appreciated.
My daughter is 13 and started with the diagnosis of cyclothymia, now with diagnosis of BP II and probably ADD. Most psych docs don't like to use stimulants because it can trigger a manic episode. I found my daughter got better on the Lamictal for her BP. She tried the stimulants and it was not good. There are other meds like Strattera. I would get her treated for the cyclothymia first and worry about the ADD later.

OnlyMe
11-10-13, 04:54 AM
My daughter is thirteen and the doctor thinks she has bipolar, though I'm not sure it's been diagnosed yet.

She was diagnosed with ADHD at eight (when I first joined, though I haven't been on in ages) and tried many of the ADHD medications, some helped a lot, some didn't. She ended up on Adderall, Celexa, Risperdal, and Strattera; but gained a lot of weight since trying the Risperdal, so we went to see a specialist in pediatric pysch medications. She said she thought my girl had bipolar and should come off the Adderall and Risperdal and try trileptal. I was dubious at first, her impulsiveness was so bad; but since we switched she has better control over the ADHD symptoms than she did on any of the stimulants we had tried. It has been a good change for her, and she sees that her life is better too. I am very pleased we took the doctor's advice.

She hasn't had mania, but she did have rages that frightened me as she got older, that's what the Risperdal was to help with. Those are gone now she's taking trileptal, thankfully. She is only taking the trileptal and Strattera now, since Strattera isn't a stimulant apparently it is safer for people with bipolar.