View Full Version : Can you develop Dyslexia/Dyscalclia If you take medicine for ADHD?


bandie08
01-17-09, 05:17 PM
I started taking vyvanse march 2008 I switched from adderall to vyvanse and lately I have been having trouble reading. I have a really difficult time focusing on the words. I also have been confusing letters like b,d,p,q and numbers like 6,9,3,5. I could of already had dyslexia and I didn't start showing symptoms until I had changed medications. I am going to talk to my doctor at my next medication check up.

Irishguy
01-20-09, 08:22 PM
Hey, interestingly I also do that occasionally.. some numbers and letters correspond in my head. It's an odd one. I've had it since pre-treatment but not as a child. Developed in my twenties. Go figure... :(

erratica_1
01-20-09, 08:45 PM
You know, I've also taken Vyvanse recently, and have developed the problem where I'll transpose numerals. Example: When I wrote down my address for my mom, I switched two of the digits in the house number. I mean, it's my *address.* Sheesh :)

mctavish23
01-21-09, 01:01 AM
A "side effect" from a medication may or may not represent a long term problem.

Only time will tell.

My take on this is to look at the question from a "cognitive" perspective.

In 32 years of clinical practice, including 3-5k psych evals of all different types,

"real / true" Dyslexia has been the rarest of the rare ( for me personally/anecdotally).

I'm not sure what I'd "call" the impairment.

What I'd want to know is how long the person took the med(s),

To what degree and type of problem exists?

Did the person already have learning problems before hand, or is this a brand new

phenomenom ?

Once again, anecdotally speaking, I usually go straight to the "solution/treatment" side

of things, and subsequently wonder about the "Why's?"

Thanks for the question.

tc

mctavish23

(Robert)

bandie08
01-21-09, 02:42 PM
A "side effect" from a medication may or may not represent a long term problem.

Only time will tell.

My take on this is to look at the question from a "cognitive" perspective.

In 32 years of clinical practice, including 3-5k psych evals of all different types,

"real / true" Dyslexia has been the rarest of the rare ( for me personally/anecdotally).

I'm not sure what I'd "call" the impairment.

What I'd want to know is how long the person took the med(s),

To what degree and type of problem exists?

Did the person already have learning problems before hand, or is this a brand new

phenomenom ?

Once again, anecdotally speaking, I usually go straight to the "solution/treatment" side

of things, and subsequently wonder about the "Why's?"

Thanks for the question.

tc

mctavish23

(Robert)

I have been taking vyvanse for about 11 months so I have been having these sympoms for 11 months


Read very slowly with many inaccuracies.
Continue to spell incorrectly or frequently spell the same word differently in a single piece of writing.
Avoid tests that require reading and writing, and procrastinate on reading and writing tasks.
Have trouble preparing summaries and outlines for classes.
Work intensely on reading and writing tasks.
Have poor memory skills and complete assigned work more slowly than expected.
Have an inadequate vocabulary and be unable to store much information from reading.
Have difficulty with planning and organization.
Spell poorly or rely on others to spell for them.
Avoid writing or not be able to write at all.

djdragon7k
01-29-09, 05:38 PM
I do this too. I misread/spell. In elementary school, I had a teacher diagnose me as dyslexic/dyscalclic but no one ever throught to do anything but force me into after school programs that aimed at nothing more than getting homework finished, not to go beyond helping students. And it probably doesn't help my case that I can stay focused on one subject for longer than a 1/2 hour to an hour. *shiny object!*

dormammau2008
02-05-09, 03:04 PM
maybe threre issss a link somewere on addhd and dylixasa and the others as well dorm

meadd823
02-07-09, 06:03 AM
My fist thought is to wonder if this reading and writing problem some thing caused by the medication vyvanse or some thing noticed because of the medication.

I used to think adderall caused me to be hungry because I would take my medication and about 30 minutes later I was starved. By eating before I took my medication I realized the adderall wasn't the cause of my hunger it just increased my awareness of it.


I am in no way trying to be difficult - however I do wish of offer accurate information about dyslexia while also helping you to think of other possibilities

Dyslexia usually involves letter reversal however there is so much more to it than just reversal of letter and crap spelling

For one the we all experience and deal with our dyslexia differently - like ADD dyslexia comes compete with an individual whose compensations are going to develop according to unique personality. .

I spend a lot of time writing post - Dorm above me writes short post. We are both dyslexic .....Dyslexia has a couple of sub-types and comes in degrees.




Dyslexia like ADD - is a diagnosis done by a professional unlike ADD testing is often employed and considered a usual part of diagnosis. Most of us experience dyslexia our entire lives but it normally become painfully noticeable when we begin school.


Below is an out line of typical symptoms -each symptom is hypertlinked to a page that offers further explanation.

The list of symptoms was obtained from Audiblox (http://www.audiblox2000.com/index.htm)


Directional Confusion (http://www.audiblox2000.com/dyslexia/direction.htm)

Dyslexia Signs: Sequencing Difficulties (http://www.audiblox2000.com/dyslexia/sequencing.htm)


Difficulties with the Little Words (http://www.audiblox2000.com/dyslexia/littlewords.htm)


Bizarre Reading and Spelling (http://www.audiblox2000.com/dyslexia/bizarre.htm)


Late Talking or
Immature Speech (http://www.audiblox2000.com/dyslexia/immature.htm)


Difficulties with Handwriting (http://www.audiblox2000.com/dyslexia/handwriting.htm)


Difficulties with Math (http://www.audiblox2000.com/dyslexia/math.htm)



General information
Wikipedia,Dyslexia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia#cite_note-Sperling2005-29)


and a freebie that may be of interest

Deficits in perceptual noise exclusion in developmental dyslexia (http://www.nature.com/neuro/journal/v8/n7/abs/nn1474.html)


We evaluated signal-noise discrimination in children with and without dyslexia, using magnocellular and parvocellular visual stimuli presented either with or without high noise. Dyslexic children had elevated contrast thresholds when stimuli of either type were presented in high noise, but performed as well as non-dyslexic children when either type was displayed without noise. Our findings suggest that deficits in noise exclusion, not magnocellular processing, contribute to the etiology of dyslexia.



Hope this helps :)





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dormammau2008
02-08-09, 01:34 PM
hey madd you! done realy well with this one and great info as well

your right there meny deiff levels ofve add addhd as well as the lds as well ie dyelixa desapaisa amd discalaica as well witch are diff in each person as each have has! a diff neorogical nets are forum"ed difently and cos envermtnts and genes and cos are famliyssss all take there toll in how it effcts us i ve meet some dyelixcas who has had the perfect famliy and there have very littie porbelms with there deyiexa as they had the right helop at the right time

i also seen if someone has mopns or missisas deseiase! :confused:there dont allways get dyaliaca as bad once they have it i always say i have a defected porsscoer!! but good ram!,,,, i rearly do long posts as itsss drveing me mad just doing this one the more i try do it right the harder it becomessss wordsss moph into something eles conteinly and my anoicely with my lack ablity to slove this porblem as most things i xtremly good at soooo i never can undertsnad why iam not able to find a sloion to this but again iam wise enough to know its a bioalogic thing it was intrienting with th e words that we do that have no readable meaning but we know what they mean for expamaple dyelaixa dyalaia
dyexaeis dyseaian thats just for what i have on that point!! was also intresting reading about noise theasehood i get that all the timeeee and reading or wtireing the more i work at it the more noisceeee getss on my neveasss but it i lteion to music or very angry my spelling an writeing get bit better this intreitng cos it means that my brain my reroute it selfs to diff bit?????? maths iam very poor at! hureds tens and uints is really what iam ok at would like to leren more algabra and do and leren equasions that they use in phyics i know my patner has a tufftime! when iam worteing or doing spellings they gave hand with this one you can tell its the readable words lol there is a spelling help bit on here but i do find it freustaioning to use it as it never knowss what i mean anyways! but i think its good for those who clear enough to show! the right words!!!! i wounderss how meny on the forums are mixed with add addhd and! dyiexiaca

its intresting to seee! how things are going! in the world k norologica ie mri brain mapping fmi witch id love to have done just to see whatsss going on iin there lol! hey madd do you think theres a link to synethaimases!!!! seeing thingsss in 3d or being able to see music or maths in 3d space ......and if so do you have it to smoe level ????????? what do you think the postive things are compaerd to the negtivae !!!!!!!!!!!!

you have some very good links

what your themys on it????????? theroys throsys thermys theory<<<< with the help my pa<< therre greeeeeeeeeeeee

pulling my hair out nowwww sooo i stop now!

hope this is as intresting as i find yours madda

hugsssssssssssss dorm:p:)