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attention
02-14-09, 02:13 AM
Desoxyn Gradumets (SR) were made until 1999 when the drug company cited "manufacturing difficulties" They were 15mg tabs in a sophisticated plastic resin mix which lasted all day, cost $577 for 100 count $5.77ECH!.

Dose anyone have feedback on compounding services/stores that would manufacture such a prescription:)

PhishHead
02-22-09, 12:47 PM
I too would like to know if anyone has found a compounding pharmacy that will agree to make this.

I have read on here that it may be possible. WE would have to ask them to make time released methamphetamine hydrochloride, because they are not allowed to make desoxyn gradumets anymore.

a user named lars has had a lot of input regarding this. I would like to know if anyone has found a compounding pharmacy and successfully had a script made

lets keep this thread active. I REALLY like desoxyn its just the fast up and down makes my OCD and anxiety symptoms worse

attention
02-24-09, 12:42 AM
"because they are not allowed to make desoxyn gradumets anymore." really? why the heck not? when Abbott sold Desoxyn to Ovation in 2002-they kept (bought) the tradename. Many users of both have reported in consistancies. Example 5mgIR Abbott tabs disolved in 15mins in water. Ovations disolve in 5 mins, so it has changed.

There were no 'manufacturing difficulties' in making 15mg the supposed excellent Gradumets anyway. they had been making them for 40 years. It was all about the FDA DEA putting pressure on Abbott in the late 90s to quit making it and issues involving illegal diversion/use. This was nonsense anyway the Gradumets were a very abuseproof pill. The active ingredient was intimately bound up with a polamer resin, so the med was released over 12 hours. in fact the darn pills were near unbreakable! But because of media hysteria meth this meth that, they were targeted.

I contact an old bloke who has sever narcolepsy and took 5 of the 15mg Gradumets and nothing else ,every day for 40 years!! he said they made him "feeel like a normal person" he could work since 18 and you'd never know. He finds the 4x daily dosing of 20mgs Ovations nowhere near as satisfactory/convient. he also needs 600mgs Provigal. he did tell me he has a few Gradumets stashed away for when he needs to be on good form.


Lars would know if anyone i guess or???????????

attention
02-24-09, 01:25 AM
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:EglwP94VsbcMlM:http://www.clinicalpharmacology.com/apps/images/photo_us_h/061/deso005u.jpg (http://images.google.co.nz/imgres?imgurl=http://www.clinicalpharmacology.com/apps/images/photo_us_h/061/deso005u.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.aarp.org/health/conditions/articles/goldstandard.information.1439.html&usg=__p-cQARZD8oZ9wS2YwrfUOYwxZaM=&h=419&w=600&sz=32&hl=en&start=38&um=1&tbnid=EglwP94VsbcMlM:&tbnh=94&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ddesoxyn%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um %3D1%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN)

Ovations post 2002 5mgIR


http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/meth/images/archive/methamphetamine_desoxyn1.jpg

Abbotts pre 2000 5mg IR


http://www.drugs.com/images/pills/mmx/t104636f/desoxyn.jpg (http://www.drugs.com/imprints/a-2817.html)
5mg Gradumet

http://www.drugs.com/images/pills/mmx/t104635f/desoxyn_gradumet.jpg (http://www.drugs.com/imprints/a-2871.html)
10mg Gradumet

http://www.drugs.com/images/pills/mmx/t104638f/desoxyn_gradumet.jpg (http://www.drugs.com/imprints/a-5368.html)
15mg Gradumet.

PhishHead
02-26-09, 11:48 AM
so what about a compounding pharmacy? I spoke to one that said if he would be willing to make it, it would be a different time release mechanism, but that he probably wouldnt be willing to make it

Has anyone ever successfully had a compounding pharmacy make Extended Release Methamphetamine Hydrochloride?

Im sure it would be EXTREMELY expensive. Might not be worth it. Its just the fall off from the IR makes me pretty anxious and my OCD worse. I am thinking that a timed release version would be a smoother come down

watts
03-02-09, 10:02 PM
In that pic above i am pretty sure those pills are not gradumets. gradumets were in a capsule based on imformation i've read over the years. They used to make the IR 5,10, and 15mg strength and the gradumets 15mg, not sure if 5 or 10.

Ovation now only has 5mg IR. With the price as high as it is with the IR, if you had this compounded the price would be absolutely ridiculous...

Adrupert
03-04-09, 01:22 AM
I too would like to know if anyone has found a compounding pharmacy that will agree to make this.

I have read on here that it may be possible. WE would have to ask them to make time released methamphetamine hydrochloride, because they are not allowed to make desoxyn gradumets anymore.

a user named lars has had a lot of input regarding this. I would like to know if anyone has found a compounding pharmacy and successfully had a script made

lets keep this thread active. I REALLY like desoxyn its just the fast up and down makes my OCD and anxiety symptoms worse

I had a compounding pharmacy make me a 25mg time released capsule, although I will say this seemed to cause a lot of problems in me, I don't think they time-released it properly considering meth's 12 hour half life, I felt wired 24/7.

attention
03-04-09, 04:11 AM
The Pics above are correct for dose and colour. Abbott developed the Gradumets to be as long lasting (12-14) effective (smoothest) and abuse-proof as could be. To stop speed freaks shooting the pills, they were wrapped up in an almost unbreakable plastic resin matrix.


"gradumets were in a capsule based on imformation i've read over the years. Nope Gradumets were in tablet form a long term user tells me. you are probably thinking of 'Biphetamine'

empty
03-13-09, 05:58 AM
I had a compounding pharmacy make me a 25mg time released capsule, although I will say this seemed to cause a lot of problems in me, I don't think they time-released it properly considering meth's 12 hour half life, I felt wired 24/7.

Would you mind sharing which compounding pharmacy you used, and if was recently (i.e. within the last year or two)?

I live in California, and every compounding pharmacy I've called claimed they can't order the active ingredients for C-II medications like dextroamphetamine sulfate.

I was previously taking Dextrostat, but since that was discontinued and the Barr generic felt like absolute crap (it's a long story - see my other post at http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64687 for details), I was hoping to fill my next prescription at a compounding pharmacy instead. Unfortunately no one in this state seems to be able to make it!

I'm really frustrated with the huge number of compounding pharmacies I've called with no luck, but maybe pharmacies in other states will carry it. If your compounding pharmacy could make generic Desoxyn, maybe their supplier would have dextroamphetamine sulfate too?

Anyway, any pointers to specific pharmacies that can compound C-II meds like mine would be really helpful.

mbm1512
03-13-09, 02:47 PM
The fact that any of you need to have these compounded is completely *****ing ridiculous in my opinion. It last 12 hours, even the short acting ones. Honestly even when I wake up in the morning at like 9 and take 25 mg, I'll still feel wired till around 130 or 2am. Unless your just abusing it, I really see absolutely no need to do this. There's a reason they took it off the market, it was unnecessary.

merovingian
03-26-09, 02:41 PM
My only complaint about Desoxyn is that I'm not at all hungry and I really have a hard time enjoying meals when I'm on it. I think the 4-5 hour half life of the normal pill simply makes lunch possible but that's just me.

PhishHead
04-06-09, 05:09 PM
mbm1512 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/member.php?u=31540),

there is a big difference in SR stims. Not just HOW long they affect you, but HOW they actually affect you.

I get edgey adn uptine anjd my OCD gets worse when the desoxyn wears off. I was hoping for a smoother come down with a SR version. IVe tried jsut about every other stim on the market and desoxyn was the best except for when it wore off.

I was only taking 5 mg doses as well


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Adrupert (http://www.addforums.com/forums/member.php?u=24477),

would you mind sharing what pharmacy you had them compounded at and how much it cost? Thanks!

PhishHead
03-15-10, 01:54 PM
anyone else offer any input on this?

Yellow
04-07-10, 10:47 PM
IR for me only. i hope there is a generic IR at this point (ovation and abbots had it for quite a while)

PhishHead
05-12-10, 01:48 AM
generic IR just came out

mylan makes it

http://www.drugstorenews.com/story.aspx?id=137587&menuid=785