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Ian
04-04-04, 05:33 PM
clueless I think I have exactly the same response to grass as you describe. I react to it as a stimulant. I can't tolerate smoke though. Currently I'm trying to find information regarding it's use and synthesis.

The FUD (fear, uncertainty and doubt) surrounding this drug is amazing. It is preventing people from seriously considering it's use medicanally. Anything can be abused and I was bad for abuse of almost everything.

I expect that I would find this compound at least as useful as Dexedrine in addressing my ADHD symptoms. I would likely do some trials if I could have the substance in some other form than smoking. Cooking it into food seems a pretty lame way to regulate doseage so I'm not willing to go there. My memories of eating grass baked into food was far to extreme and only amounted to abuse.

When left to my own though, I always used it so very sparingly. I guess this was my first successful self medication. I am prone to depression, lethargy and am distactable has all get all, and I remember this stuff helping on those fronts. I wish I knew more about the substance. It seems surrounded by hysteria when people seem so much more willing to entertain much more sophisticated offerings from the pharmaceutical industry.

No matter the bias.. smoking is lethal for me.. I can not tolerate anything of the sort now. I used to smoke tobacco heavily and now I can't even be in a room with smokers comfortably. My lungs just can't take the abuse.

Most of what I find on-line seems to document the problems regarding smoking as the primary issues regarding ADHD and marijuana derivatives. Obviously many of us are substance abusers and thus marijuana is rightly associated negatively with people like me.

If anyone has any experience with any of these trains of thought please comment.

http://rxmarihuana.com/shared_comments/Gordon.htm

Ian
04-04-04, 09:05 PM
From:
http://www.rxmarihuana.com/q&a.htm

This about sums up my experience trying to find scientific information regarding the use of marijuana to treat ADD/ADHD
Cheers! Ian.

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It was more than a decade ago that I first had the experience of observing a high school student with ADHD treat this disorder much more successfully with cannabis than with his doctor-prescribed Ritalin. His mother (now deceased), a vice president of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, who had asked me to see him for evaluation, was also persuaded that he did much better while using cannabis than he ever did with Ritalin. Since that time I have seen a number of patients, both young people and adults, who have had similar experiences. I have also heard from many others; still I have seen no reference to this possibility in the scientific or medical literature. I think that we are now in the same situation we were with Tourette's syndrome about a decade ago; a number of anecdotal reports but nothing in the medical literature. Today you can find citations in the literature on cannabis as a treatment for Tourette's. The bottom line is that this use of cannabis for the treatment of ADHD is still in the clinical observation or anecdotal stage, and it may be impossible to find the citations you seek.
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t-bird
04-04-04, 09:11 PM
Hmmm... Very interesting, is medicinal marijuana legal in a lot of places?

Ian
04-04-04, 10:17 PM
I believe it's a perscription medication here in Canada except that no one can fill your prescription legally as I understand it. Some have applied for an exemption first.

I've been looking at a lot of links so I'll start another thread under the "Misc. Treatments and approaches" soon.
Hope this helps. Ian.

Jellybean
04-05-04, 03:50 AM
Marijuana worsens my symptoms except if I have to do tedious labor like cleaning grout or polishing silver. I can't sleep if I smoke and the same if I drink. I figured that out when I was 20ish. I realized then that all that time it was lowering my blood sugar and was the absolute worse thing for my hypoglycemia.
I was brought up with a lot of weed at my disposal.

It also makes me over creative and I will do ten million projects and be unable to clean up or stop making messes. I am already like that enough!
my ex self medicates with it and feels better though.

Ian
04-05-04, 01:08 PM
I have the same response as you describe except when I take very small doses. Then it's a different experience for me. All this is from memory though. I intend to do some trials but to do that legally will take some time and the concent of my doctor and pharmacist.

I would really like to start another thread in in another forum but my week is slipping away from me as it is.. maybe later.

Cheers! Ian.

t-bird
04-05-04, 08:52 PM
Are the effects of marijuana in small doses similiar to any other drugs?

Ian
04-05-04, 10:37 PM
That's a tough one to answer. Like most posts regarding drugs/medication you'll see a wide range of responses of people to different drugs. If my memory serves me correctly my response to small does is similar to Dexedrine in many ways except grass has a euphoric element that seems absent for me with Dexedrine.

My new found love of exercise has provided me with a good dose of "happy" though and that's been great! Cheap, legal and available to all. Tough to beat.

I'm not going to get to making another thread on this any time soon so I'll add what I know here.

The primary concerns about smoking the stuff can be addressed with a vapouriser. I had never heard of such a thing before last night. It does not use combustion to release the active ingredients. As it turns out the active ingredients vapourize long before combustion takes place. This is news to me but with some searching last night it seems plenty popular with the medicinal and recreational users. It makes good sense too in a couple of ways. A cheap vapouriser is less than $20 USD delivered.

First of course is that you don't need to inhale smoke! Smoking is just plain bad no matter which way I look at it.

The second is that you can metre down very small doses with precision.

In Canada at least there appears to be legal ways to possess and use this drug for medicinal purposes.

Cheers! Ian.

apcpapergirl
04-06-04, 01:21 AM
I tried it when in High School, but didn't like the way it made me feel, so haven't touched it since.

Ian
04-06-04, 01:36 AM
I used and abused it like everything else but by the time I was in senior high school I had begun to use it as medication I think.

It's a curious thing to be getting a clearer picture of my life as a kid.

Cheers! Ian.

Jellybean
04-06-04, 02:14 AM
Pot for me is like getting all wired in the brain, and physically feeling unable to keep up with my brain. When I am very physically active I tend to run on adrenilum and I am a whirlwind and I feel great, if I were to smoke it and keep up a physical pace I am alright, but if I stop, it is hard to get going again. And my head is busting with inventiveness/creativeness.

Pot doubles the actionin my already over active brain.

Even just a teeny tiny dose. It always amazes me that it can affect another just the opposite, or that anyone can sleep on it.

For me I can't compare Marijuana in small or large doses with any drug. I haven't really tried any mind altering prescription drugs.
But I have done plenty of illegal drugs in the past. I made a deal with myself that when I turned 20 I would stop.

I have never found one that helped my ADhd without physical repercussions. So luckily I never had a problem.

I am also feeling happy and productive because I am getting exercise. I love warm weather that is my drug of choice!

apcpapergirl
04-06-04, 05:54 AM
One of my "drivers" at work smokes or use to smoke marijuana to relieve his pain. About 6 months ago or so there was a drug bust at his home and he & wife were both arrested.

In High School I smoked it often. It just made me feel too weird.. couldn't think straight at all. Therefore.. I haven't tried it again. I believe if I were in pain.. I would, if it helped relieve my pain.

clueless
04-07-04, 02:42 PM
hey itschaotic,

good to know there's someone out there who can relate. the only thing i have against marijuana is that there's a high corelation between those who smoke it and those who develop schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders. you can look this up online, there's been lots of studies done on the subject.

i believe that pot changed my brain chemistry permanently. since i take a low dose of risperdal (an anti-psychotic) for my adhd, i don't know to what degree. i'm a hell of a lot spacier than i used to be, though, i can tell you that.

i'm not so sure pot is good for EVERYONE'S brain-- i think it depends on what kind of adhd you have-- certain types might be more suitable for medicinal marijuana than others.

Ian
04-07-04, 03:59 PM
Yup... good to stay sceptical.. thanks clueless
Cheers! Ian.

Gregster
04-07-04, 07:03 PM
I think it is generally beleived, by most researchers - the DEA and Nancy Regan excluded - that schizophrenics are attracted to pot and drugs in general. The fact that a large percentage of schizophrenics smoke pot does not mean that pot smokers are schizophrenics or that pot causes schizophrenia. Some of the smartest, most well grounded people I know are pot smokers - and there are some screwed up ones as well - but no-one has schizophrenia - and if pot caused it, then at least one of us would have it by now, I can assure you! Pot doesn't have an effect on dopamine - which schizophrenics have too much of - it hits very specific canabidanoid (sp??) receptors in the brain - I don't think there is another drug that we know of that works the same way as pot or THC.
It's also very safe - if you don't count the effects of smoke - you literally can't overdose - you'd choke to death trying before you smoked/ate enough of the psychoactive drugs to kill you.
Of course everything in moderation - abuse of anything is not a heathy life-style choice.
I find grass helps my anxiety and calms my "gut" down a fair bit - I suffer from IBS and pot helps me with it. I actually find the anti-spasmodics I take for IBS attacks are more mentally disableing than grass, and far less pleasant - they put into a bit of a stupor - all you do is sleep.
I think the pot is not good for my ADHD, but I'm honestly not certain about that - it makes me more complacent than I am naturally - but I found antidepressants did the same thing. I don't really have a lot of other bad habits, so I don't feel very guilty about the pot smoking.
My $.02 worth.
Regards,
Greg

Jellybean
04-08-04, 03:39 AM
I agree Greg. The schizo came first.
But I do believe Angle dust can turn someone schizo, but that is an ENTIRELY different substance.

Ian
04-09-04, 02:30 PM
That's very helpful Gregster thanks.
Ian.

clueless
04-16-04, 01:16 PM
The idea of the schizo coming first is both right and wrong. Marijuana can trigger a recessive gene for psychosis in people that would otherwise have had very fullfilling lives, and it can worsen cases that would not have been so bad. I just think people should be made aware that this is possible, because those that have relatives with psychotic disorders should opt not to smoke it.

I have a friend who was a very accomplished violinist and now he can't even hold a job. He's very paranoid and depressed all the time and thinks people are out to get him all the time. It's very sad.

Jellybean
04-16-04, 01:47 PM
Hmmmm, hard to believe that something else wouldn't have triggered it if that was the case.Likely there were other factors involved??
Couldn't it have started out as self medicating and also have had an adverse reaction?
I think it was very bad for me, made me paranoid and introverted.

Violinist are a very interesting breed!.................... (I'm one)

Gregster
04-20-04, 09:49 AM
Because psychosis often hits at early adulthood, just when people are starting to experiment and abuse drugs, it can look very much like the drugs caused the psychosis. When otherwise normal, intelligent and talented people suddenly becomes irrational or delusional, it is a natural human reaction to blame something external - "this person is smart, talented and came from a good family that is just like mine, how could anything within this family cause the psychosis? It must be the grass or crack or ?????"
I think if there was actually a cause and effect relationship between grass and psychosis, or if grass did "trigger" a gene or make genetic changes, it would have been identified by now - given the DEA funding to prove ANYTHING dangerous about marijuhana.
Here is the report from the British house of Lords on Cannabis. It seems a very "balanced" viewpoint - rationally looking at the facts. It does mention psychosis induced by large amounts of pot, but this goes away in a few days. It does say that pot can make psychosis worse in those that already have it, but psychotic effects are so rare that it would not limit the use of grass as a medical drug, except for those already genetically prone to psychosis.
http://www.parliament.the-stationery-office.co.uk/pa/ld199798/ldselect/ldsctech/151/15101.htm
The USA has a war on drugs - all drugs - and you know how facts get distorted during a war!
Regards,
Greg

Ian
04-20-04, 03:36 PM
Thanks Greg.
That's a rare find for me. Balance is key to good information.

I'll be wading through this from the summary backward.. ehhe

Cheers! Ian.

clueless
04-21-04, 04:27 PM
"but the habitual user risks developing a more persistent psychosis"

this is straight from the article.

this is all i'm saying-- i never said this is true for everybody. but it's a risk that some people might take and lose out on is all. but that's a minority of people, i understand that. still, it must suck to be that one of those people ....

paulbf
04-28-04, 12:48 PM
If you use the search page there and type adhd, there are about a dozen testimonials:
http://rxmarihuana.com/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.htm

I never would have guessed but maybe in small doses. For me it is calming and gets rid of the usual nagging feeling of daily life but also pushes me into manic daydreaming as others described. Daniel Amen says weed can simulate the same brain imbalances as ADD according to his brain scans. That'd be my take: that pot creates ADD more than it solves it but makes it more fun! Maybe these testimonials come from more hyper people, I'm more the daydreamy type to begin with.

PS I don't know why you wouldn't try eating it for a more stable medicinal effect. It lasts much longer and is much smoother though it takes more than an hour to hit you and requires more material to work.

Ian
04-28-04, 02:45 PM
I've learnt my lesson about less being more in some instances. When I cut my dosage by half which after a week or so felt useless. It's settled down to what I think is a useful amount but surprisingly it's not very far off what I was taking originally. My point is that dose can make a difference and I'm note prepared mentally to entertain the idea of very small doses of medication.

Not that I shouldn't be it's just not what comes naturally to my lamer brain when I take meds. I was quite surprised to find that a reduced dose was more effective. I have E-boy to thank for that suggestion.

My Dr. was unclear in the prescription as to the half life of the long acting pills and I didn't check it out for myself until later when I began to consider a reduction. I found that contributing to the excess dose I was also compounding the problem. By taking a booster of 5mg quick release at lunch I was assuring a double hit by about three in the afternoon as the long release I'd taken in the morning reached it's peak at the same time as the quick release. duh factor..

I think grass will be likely the same type of story. One being the difficulty in metering small enough doses that it does smell like abuse and actually yields some results. I have a vapouriser on order that I'm hoping will allow for very accurate doses. It's a simple tool but was one I could afford. I'm not sure how popular pothead paraphernalia will be among-st the natives... eh

On that point I have consulted my wife several times to discuss my approach to my situation and it seems she's only interested in me being happy and the results. I need to at least apply for legal defence if I'm going to have any of the evil weed around but life is stacking up behind me and here I sit typing!!!! eheh I'm off to be where I'm meant to be next.

I ruled out eating it over not being able to control the intake very well.

Cheers! Ian.

bluesman
05-08-04, 01:42 AM
Smoked a lot of pot in my life. Been "hyperactive" since the 70's and untreated. To me, there are two sides to drug use/abuse. For us, there is pot use for the "normal" non-born with problems, and the adhd problems. I've tried, or used most illegal drugs, but the only one that ever stuck was weed.
I have been treated for this issue regarding the non-born with problems and it worked. Being new, it is a huge relief to know that there is another reason and now I can work on it.
My experience has been pot use all through high school, and to the point of being stoned, every day. Tx dictates that whether for self-med or abuse, it definately blocked me from accepting the pain that was going on within me. Not the unsettled constant drum of adhd, but pain emanating from traumas, losses and other issues. Since being treated (without drugs), I have still used. It is a whole different context.
My marijuana thermometer is guilt. If I smoke too much, i know it, I feel guilty and don't want to look ppl in the eye.
As far as treating adhd, it is not a treatment. Since I have become aware of my adhd symptoms (at this time untreated), I see that they are still there when smoking any amount of marijuana. But it is certainly a relief at a low dosage, at night.
I need to go through my day and remember everything i said or did involving other ppl during that day. I absolutely have to do that. In my natual state there are so many thoughts and so much information, that i just can't organize it and come to any conclusions in my mind for that day. Pot at the right dosage, allows me to organize that information and to know if i wronged anyone that day. In all personal honesty, i am close to tears right now, because this is so important. There are times when I just don't want any weed. I know that exists. I'm poor, so when i look for adhd tx, i get the **** beat out of me on the weed issue.
My point is, I'm hoping that when i do get properly treated for adhd, the final desire for pot will be gone. I've been through the gauntlet and I don't escape life with pot, but it does serve a legitimate purpose, at least for me.

Ian
05-08-04, 02:37 AM
bluesman we share some similar history.

I just got my "vapouriser" in the mail this week but haven't had a chance to check it out.

I definitely feel like any smoke is a bad thing and like you I've had my fair share of abusive habits on more than a couple of fronts. I think maybe that's part of what's holding me back from showing bigger gains regarding my comments on the "men's working out" thread in the men's forum. Tee's me off to think that my actions earlier may be inhibiting my abilities now that I've found some strength to act of some good decisions!

Ah well.. I can't have everything I want all the time. I'd also like to get clearance from my Dr. to begin trials with grass. This will at least cover my butt in the event of arrest.

Glad to have you here. I hope you feel free to post throughout the forums.

Any blowing and drawing posted publicly somewhere?

Cheers! Ian.

citruscat2002
05-08-04, 11:37 AM
I wondered if cannabis ever becomes a legal drug if the delivery method could be changed. Not ingested as a pill, but vapourized and used like a "puffer" like asthma medication. I don't know the theory of how this could be done. Does the resin need to be heated to release the thc? Not a chemist.
I agree with a cautious, and balanced approach with this or any other psychotropic drug. I sense it could be a useful tool for many people for a number of reasons, but don't think it's for everyone. Personally, I have found it useful to help me focus and I don't seem to suffer much cognitive impairment at a reasonable dose. There is the real danger of abuse, though. I've had times in my life where I'd self-medicate with cannabis instead of dealing with more important issues like depression.
I also am of the opinion that the image of cannabis culture detracts from it's credibility -- I mean the day-glo deadhead hype and the pornographic bud shots.
Just my .02
Pauline

Ian
05-08-04, 11:51 AM
citruscat2002 I agree it's not got a popular image but I've never been much of a fashion hound anyway.

If you do a search on vapourisers you'll find many who are not smoking the stuff any more. Apparently the active ingredients are volatile and vaporise well before combustion. Heat is necessary but not to the point of combustion.

From what I've read there is a great deal of control over how much is taken per dose which was what I was after. Very small does seem to me to be in order.

I'm reducing my Dex dose slowly and in small increments too and this seems to be a great idea. I like the results I'm getting.

Of course the only way to look objectively at any of this is to do some repeat testing but I'm tired so that's not likely going to happen. I just want results.

If I can get my Dr. to verify that grass might be worth looking into I can have some legal backing here in Canada to begin to look into it.

Cheers! Ian.

Gregster
05-08-04, 12:28 PM
I do find that pot takes away most of the good effects of ritalin - focus, etc. Since starting ritalin I have been able to cut back significantly on my smoking, but I think that I may have to try giving it up altogether for a while to sort out the ritalin - because I really do like the improved focus and impulse control it gives me. The problem is that I also use pot to help with the symptoms of Irritable Bowel syndrom (IBS) - it's antispasmotic properties help a lot.

citruscat2002
05-08-04, 05:04 PM
I was just thinking some more about the effects of cannabis on focus, and I believe more accurately it could be said that instead of improving my focus, it improves my interest. If there's something boring to do, it helps.
The downside from my perspective is the sleepiness -- great for bedtime, as it can be very relaxing. There's also something to the idea that one of it's effects is self-absorption and lack of empathy. I have regretted being fully engaged a few times when it was important, or laughing when I shouldn't.
MD's say that for all the things we want cannabis to do, there are better pharmacueticals, but I'm sort of attached to the process and power of choice around this (and I like that it's a plant).

bluesman
05-09-04, 05:14 PM
Pot used to affect me in the spacey way, but since addressing the hate, co-dependant, self-esteem, shame issues, I don't want to numb any more. As a matter of fact, I don't like anything that leave me feeling one step back from reality. Chaotic, you mentioned something about my comment referring to difficulty getting treated. I called the county family services, and they asked about drug use. I told them about pot, and right away they get out the stick and start beating the dead horse. I have to go though the drug assessment first, and of course with pot in my system they will force me through treatment before I will be allowed to see the psychiatrist. I've aggressively participated in d&A treatment but there is no explaining to the intake ppl about self medication. My training is to recognize this whole thread as the "sneaky power" of drugs. Which it is not. So it goes, if I was to see a private Psychiatist, I would not have to pee clean in order to get treatment. I'm getting old, I'm tired and i challenge any human being to have the phsical, emotional and mental experiences I've had. I am very frustrated these days. It's just a huge unfairness.
I posted to a lot of threads, but the only one that notifies me of responses is the introduction. So, if I don't reply,, it's because i've posted a lot and don't know which ones are "alive".
Oh yeah, blowing and drawing refers to a harmonica. It' one thing I have done for a very long time, and can actually play. Blues only.

Ian
05-09-04, 07:55 PM
bluesman I know what draw and blow was...heh Thus my comment!

I'm tired to and not very willing to put up with much bs regarding treatment. Fortunately I live in Canada where it's quite easy to get the help I need. I can't imagine living in the US and not having buckets of money.

I'm not interested in that "numb" feelin either. Quite the opposite. I've been enjoying a bright and clear vision through the past few months and I'm quite protective of it.

My experience in finding help has been much the same as it is looking for a decent car mechanic. It's a tough row to hoe finding good help for the car and especially it seems for my body and mind. I'm very lucky to have the skilled professionals I have.

I feel for you bro.

I hope you can find your way back here! heh..

So... do you have any blowing and drawing posted on-line in the way of mp3s? I'd love a listen..

I play a bit of guitar. No false modesty.. just a bit. I still have trouble keeping time and hearing the changes.. but I love doing it. Too bad I don't ever get to play with others because it really has stunted my growth.

Mind you I have lyrics that I've sung for twenty years and I still lose my way in and get mixed up.. duh..

www.perryguitars.com I've owned two now and I can't imaging better.. Most folks buy guitars with their eyes.. but if you can hear at all these are some sweet.

Cheers! Ian.
Cheers! Ian.

Ian
05-11-04, 03:05 AM
http://www.dailyprogress.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=CDP%2FMGArticle%2FCDP_BasicArti cle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031775381679&path=!news

bluesman
05-12-04, 03:15 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by itschaotic
[B]bluesman I know what draw and blow was...heh Thus my comment! O.k. I've been exposed to a lot of ppl that don't understand much. I have to adjust. I may not be super intelligent, or maybe I am, but when in poverty, most of the ppl in my social class are uneducated. I would honestly expect at least one person to say, "oh, you mean sucking". I've become accustomed to oversimplifying and it really is not ego. I take in as much info as possible every day. Sure, it won't be remembered, but it's still there, somewhere. I came from an ignorant background and used to talk sh** about subjects without really knowing the facts. Compared to everyone here, I'm probably a little ignorant, but am hoping to benefit others, or at least entertain, by being myself, opening up for ppl to see me.
In the end everyone will see my progress from untreated to treated.



I'm not interested in that "numb" feelin either. Quite the opposite. I've been enjoying a bright and clear vision through the past few months and I'm quite protective of it. Me too.


I looked briefly at the link. Along with adhd, my marijuana use is also for upset stomach and appetite promotion. I've never been one to eat much, and currently still don't eat until very late in the afternoon.




So... do you have any blowing and drawing posted on-line in the way of mp3s? I'd love a listen.. No I do not. Being a chicago native, I would have to be a LOT better to even attempt it. Never been in a band, and can't sit still to get the lessons I need to complete the picture. I'm not giving up, but it's not high priority right now. I need new harps.

I play a bit of guitar. No false modesty.. just a bit. I still have trouble keeping time and hearing the changes.. but I love doing it. Too bad I don't ever get to play with others because it really has stunted my growth. LOL, I'm short - 5'6", add your own humor.

Mind you I have lyrics that I've sung for twenty years and I still lose my way in and get mixed up.. duh.. The thing that makes me an O.K. player is the natural rythm in my head. I forgot how to spell rythm.

www.perryguitars.com I've owned two now and I can't imaging better.. Most folks buy guitars with their eyes.. but if you can hear at all these are some sweet. Have to remember that for future conversation.

You seem pretty cool chaotic. We will have to chat sometime.

I finally found the legal information I need pertaining to a drivers license. I'm on the right track. Don't know why it's so hard to get simple info....oh, yeah, the lawyers don't want me to have it.
Being diagnosed level 3 non-dependant, meaning substance abuser but not addict, the states thinking is that there is an underlying problem. Now it all makes "sense", hehe. Hope there's room for humor in here. At this point, my body should be close to clean now and I've also discovered that there is a drug assessment for anyone seeking medical attention through the local county services. Now, if i can find a way to get there on a regular basis. God, do i hate this. :)
Stay in touch.
Tim

P.S. Thanks for the subscribe info, I'm slowly but surely subscribing to the different threads. This one is on the list now.

Ian
05-12-04, 01:15 PM
Tim.
I'm glad the subscription thing got the job done. Have you discovered the "Show New Posts" feature yet? It's quite the ticket too for seeing what threads are active and may be of interest. I'm struggling to get some work related tasks done so haven't taken much time to write recently. It's going to be a busy summer and my hopes are high that it will be my most successful yet. I love the clarity of thought I've got just now. It's not perfect but it's certainly an improvement. By success I mean that I expect to see a number of major projects through to completion. Of course there is no precedent for that happening but hope springs eternal.

I'm feeling pretty impoverished myself these days. I've been carried by my wife for years. That isn't a point of pride I'll tell you. I'm about done with it. It kills my self esteem. I'm taking this year to evaluate and try and tailor my expectations to the reality then I'll be making some changes if nothing looks like it's going to shift in significant ways. I just can't live with it the way it is. I have to become responsible for my actions. I don't mean to withdraw, just get off her support financially.

I see myself in you when you talk about maybe not being up to speed with the more educated. However you look like a spry and active mind to me and that always offers up some interesting elements in friendships. I hope you can stick around so I can learn a few things from you. eheh

I'm have almost stopped reading anything ad/hd related. Just now I only want to put the theory to work. Using situations like this thread to continue to act on what I know seems to be key to instigating changes. If it doesn't lead to positive change I really don't care to know anymore. I'm so full of information and so so short on action. I'm 45 and the bell has rung so to speak. It's do or die for me.

I had a huge crash last fall that you can read about in my introduction I think. It seems a long time ago. I've been relying quite heavily on the members here to know I have company in my quest for change. I'm not too frantic about it but I am taking it seriously now. I dang near didn't make it out of last falls slump and I don't want to ever be there again. Nothing like a little brush with the dark side to clarify the priorities.

One key element to the routine has been heavy physical exercise. I am getting at least a half hour several times a week and it's been at least as powerful a healing technique as the Dexedrine. The public commitment of goals to my peer here seems to help keep me on track too if I don't over shoot my abilities. Darn it all anyway if I have to walk before I can run!!! < g >

We sound like we might be at similar musical levels or at least close enough to have some fun together. I played a bit last night and was grateful to have the thing tuned up again. It's time for strings again though as this box really has a big voice. It's such a small guitar really but it's volume and tone are amazing. The top is 7mm arched and stressed slightly like a violin sort of. The thickness is varied too. Under the bridge it's about 4mm (German spruce) but around the perimeter it's only 1mm. The whole sound board tends to get involved. Daryl and I became friends over my first purchase. He made me one similar to a Martin #00 which is a very intimate instrument. My brother has it and he's not playing it. I played it over Easter and it seems to not be dead yet but it's a shame to leave it sit. It will die eventually if not played more. I'm not so sure it isn't still opening up. Mine certainly is.

Here's to progress, risk and an open mind.

Must make some tracks to the shop. Cheers! Ian.

bluesman
05-12-04, 03:44 PM
Will properly reply later. Right now, today, the depression had entered the picture. Can't think. Maybe later today will be better.
I have no choice as far as exercise, I ride a ##**^^%^)* bicycle everywhere.

Ian
05-12-04, 04:01 PM
Strength to you..

Ian
06-04-04, 01:54 AM
Hope you are ok there bluesman.

I did my trial with grass and a vapouriser and found it to be muddy next to the dex. I don't care for it medicinally. It's lethargic and scattered in my chemistry. For those that use it for treatment the vaporiser is the way to go though for sure.

No smoke!
Cheers! Ian.

bluesman
06-04-04, 04:31 PM
i'm ok. Just started using again. Working for a psychologist to trade for his services. Will go to a psych or physician for prescription. Until then, I'm smokin. screw it.

Ian
06-05-04, 03:49 AM
I can't deny that it plays a positive role in my mood being better. It seems easier to do the mundane.
Cheers! Ian.