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Stacie
06-11-09, 11:48 PM
:confused:Hi! My 8 year old son was just diagnosed with ADHD. I didn't want to believe it and don't want to put him on the medications that are so often perscribed. We gave him the medication that was perscribed this past Sunday and he was a zombie for most of the day, complained with a headache all day and was us until 4am. I called the doctors office and they said it would take a couple weeks to get into his system, but I can't bring myself to give it to him again After alot of reading, now I really would rather not use the medications that are so often perscribed. Is there any good alternatives. I have read about the book 3 steps to conquer ADD(that is how I found the forum---it's a scam-I read), I have also read about Attend and there is another homeopathic medication. Anyone have any suggestions???

blueroo
06-12-09, 04:16 PM
Don't give up after just one day. It takes time to find the right medication and dosage. There are no alternative therapies that are as effective as medication. That's a fact.

You will read a lot of scary things about ADD medications online. Don't buy into them. There are a lot of anti-science and anti-medicine out there who will say anything, will lie, to scare you. Most of us here on the forum have been where you and your son are, and we can say with confidence that working to find the right medication and dosage for your son is the very best thing to do.

Have you spoken to an ADD specialist about coaching for your son? It will take more than medication (or homeopathy) to help him. He needs to learn strategies and healthy coping mechanisms to help him succeed. The medication can only give him focus. It can't teach him how to use it. :)

MGDAD
06-15-09, 02:25 PM
If he was a zombie, then the medication or dosage is not right. It does not take a "few weeks" for stimulants to get into his system. What was the medication? I would have a more thorough discussion with your sons physician or find a new doctor.

ADHD Hunter
06-15-09, 02:54 PM
As an adult, at around 40, the first time I took meds I felt a little like a "zombie" myself. I couldn't sleep for the first couple of days. In just a few days I had found the medication to provide a calmer clarity and more thoughtful actions.

He will adjust quickly. Have him take the meds early. We would wake my kids to give them their meds, then let them sleep another half hour in the morning. Although the transition is something new for you he will be OK. Stay in touch with the doctor to see if prescription or dosage changes are needed.

Please don't be overly affected by those who proudly state that they were not swayed by the opinions of 10 or 15 doctors. At some point, maybe the meds are a good thing. Try other alternatives as well, including dietary changes, out-of-doors "green" excercise and therapy.

Best of luck!
- Chris

PedroDaGr8
06-15-09, 02:56 PM
As an adult who was on ADHD medicine from when he was in 1st grade, and is ALSO a chemist now, do not be afraid of giving your kid medicine. At the same time, what you described is NOT right. While there are SOME side effects in the beginning as your body adjusts (sometimes insomnia being one of them) the being like zombie does not sound right and the headache does not sound right.

What is the medication and dosage?

It maybe his dosage is too high. I am a strong believer in titrating up dosage, especially in children who lack the ability to assess things as well as adults. Titrating allows for a gradual increase, decreasing the chance of side effects.

Remember, DON'T believe the anti-science hype, who will tell you ALL sorts of extreme things to promote what ever natural "Cure" they are SELLING.

ADHD Hunter
06-15-09, 03:03 PM
Remember, DON'T believe the anti-science hype, who will tell you ALL sorts of extreme things to promote what ever natural "Cure" they are SELLING.

Just wrote something like this - thought it fit here: "An ADHD Miracle Cure?" (http://adhdhunter.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/an-adhd-miracle-cure/)

PedroDaGr8
06-15-09, 03:11 PM
Nice article. You make some excellent points.

Annwn
06-15-09, 04:40 PM
This is a very curious post.

Quite vague about the medication "the medication that was perscribed" yet very specific about other random details.

OPs observation about the kid being a "zombie" sounds more consistent with propaganda than with the vast majority of anecdotal accounts of people taking stimulants. Perhaps the child was taking Strattera as it is usually described as taking time to become effective but I have not heard of the "zombie" like state happening as a side effect.

I didn't want to believe it and don't want to put him on the medications that are so often perscribed. We gave him the medication that was perscribed this past Sunday

Very curious phrasing.

If you are this concerned about your 8yr old taking a new medication and you want to get some response, don't you think you would just go get the name on the bottle?

After several days and concerned responses, you do not return? You don't reply?

MGDAD
06-15-09, 06:11 PM
My childs doctor was very carefull about titrating up. Plus, he always prescribes the short acting medication first for a couple weeks, then goes on to the long acting version if everything is OK. This would provide a few benefits,

1. If the child reacts poorly to the medication it will wear off in a few hours.
2. Less likelyhood of sleep problems since it wears off by noon.
3. Allows the body to adjust to the med in short bursts.

All in all though, I am agreeing that I think this poster is probably a troll.

ADHD Hunter
06-15-09, 07:45 PM
Not familiar with trolls - but think I'm seeing the point.

mctavish23
06-15-09, 08:47 PM
As of today, there are 3 evidence based treatments for children with ADHD:

1)Medication(s)

2)Behavior management programs (specifically, reward based programs that balance rewards with natural & logical consequences) and

3)A combination of the two.

Good luck.

tc

mctavish23

(Robert)

Annwn
06-16-09, 02:19 AM
Not familiar with trolls - but think I'm seeing the point.

Trolls are people that troll/trawl for controversy or seek to stir things up for fun. Think of the trawler boat slowly cruising around with bait, hoping to catch whatever fish of opportunity might take the bait.

All forums have them but especially any forum that is oriented around anything where there are strong opinions or polarizing opinions - religion, politics, controversial beliefs, movements, conditions, etc.

The main thing to remember is that they do it for the reaction. The best ones seem sincere and and either misguided or ignorant or otherwise clueless to their outrageous views that prompt other people to respond in various ways.

Rhymenocerous
06-16-09, 07:20 AM
[quote=PedroDaGr8;753976]"While there are SOME side effects in the beginning as your body adjusts (sometimes insomnia being one of them) the being like zombie does not sound right and the headache does not sound right.

I am a strong believer in titrating up dosage, especially in children who lack the ability to assess things as well as adults."

You seem like you know quite a bit or at least have quite a bit of experience. I am new to this ADHD diagnosis and am having a side affect, which happens to be insomnia. My personal experience involves not having the ability to turn off my thoughts. I am very creative and feel that I do not have an outlet. I've thought about drawing or painting, but pottery seems to be the one drawing me closer.
For instance, I am awake trying to figure out is happening while waiting for the Tylenol PM to kick in at 4 AM. So that maybe I can have another day with a clear head. During the day, I am Active and a very competitive athlete that seems that he can never run enough, my mouth does this too when I am excited. I also work retail, while attempting to go back to school after taking a much needed year off to go and find who I really am. I keep a pen and pad with me at all times along with a schedule to keep track of dates and names. Dates and names seem to be two things that allude me, this is why I don't play music or have taught myself a language.
So sorry if I’m posting this in the wrong spot but I used the search engine and it led me directly to your message. Seems I was led here for a reason. I'm also very spiritual.... Insomnia is the worst thing about the medication and not to mention the only thing. I'm just wondering if this is way too good to be true. Mainly because the adderall before seemed like it made me a zombie until I took a lower dose than my doctor prescribed me. Which I’m fine with this. My doctor is often busy and it takes him quite a bit of time to get back to me. As of now he is in Hawaii....
Thanks for Your time if you made it this far in reading this post. Thank you more, if you pose some insightful questions I should research. Oh wait...typical ADD for me... I am also on 20mg of celexa (citalopram.) 15mg of adderall (D-Amphetamine salt combo short acting).
Oh I also smoke weed occasionally but very rarely, this is true with alcohol as well. I am older than 21 and feel it is my duty to have fun with friends. Plus I like them so I help.
The medication for me is fugitively like the fog has lifted and I am seeing the sun rise for the first time. For ex: This has taken me 10 min to right if that, then 5 min to correct. Because even right now, a little groggy, my mind won't shut off. On a side note I feel like this was supposed to be short but my mind just takes over almost sub-conscience. It is great. What should I tell my doctor to get the most efficient help to treat my insomnia, or is this a wait and see game? Oh... I feel like I am forgetting something... But the Tylenol has kicked in and I am going to sleep...
Sincerely no longer dazed nor confused!! "The Time is now 4:20 and the birds are chirping, dang a joint would be good to fall asleep with right now..." - A great friend of mine

PedroDaGr8
06-16-09, 02:55 PM
Well, I used to use generic sleep aid as well (has the same stuff as Tylenol PM without the pain reliever). Recently though, I have come to find out that Diphenhydramine HCl is an inhibitor of an enzyme that helps break down ampehtamines. So I am stopping this and trying to find other options. I have seen many people mention melatonin as being a good option and will try it.

One thing I have noticed, my last dose has to be scheduled around 8 hrs before bed time. The ADD helping effects last for 4 hrs but the sleeplessness lasts for 8.