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akiss4u
04-29-04, 11:29 PM
Has anyone suffered from chronic pain and noticed once they started ADD medications their pain had stopped or been greatly reduced?

Mary
05-04-04, 01:41 AM
The doctor put me on wellbutrin because of my stress levels..but wellbutrin helps with the dopamine and other things that we lack....because lack of dopamine also causes the fibro to be worse. They're upping my dosage this week... just to keep me calmer so my back doesn't knot up.

I'll let you know more as I find out.

hummingbird7525
09-13-05, 01:30 PM
I am very interested in your question about chronic pain and add meds helping the pain. Please let me know your thoughts.

Tracer
10-12-05, 01:25 PM
There is a website www.add-fibromyalgia.com (http://www.add-fibromyalgia.com). Patricia has a lot of info, some anecdotal, some research that supports a connection between ADD meds and relief of pain.

I am recently diagnosed with ADD and am noticing an improvement with the pain and fatigue and even PMS.

Good luck!

QueensU_girl
12-16-05, 08:08 PM
I have found that stimulants increase muscle tension & pain. I can only comment on two stimulants, though (Dexedrine and Wellbutrin).

YMMV,

Emma
:)

stacy
08-07-07, 04:30 AM
I know this is an old but but I am a newbie with ADD as well as fibro and CFS and the add meds where e tremndous help at first , but after some months it burns the adrenal down even further and causes way more fatigue. So it is really imperative to pace yourself if you take ADD meds.

dede4004
08-12-07, 01:24 PM
Hi,
I do not have add/adhd, but my husband does.(chronic migraines) We both go to the same pain specialist. We are one of the few "couple" patients that he treats along with his other patients. Our doctor is aware of my husbands add/adhd.

A good pain specialist can work with you on controlling the pain and still work with the add. Our doctor is in UNC North Carolina Neurosciences Hospital. They have a magnificent pain clinic there. But you need a doctor's referral.

I've had chronic pain for 29 years. (A car accident, I was rear ended) But the whiplash and such caused a ruptured disc in my low back and a condition in my neck that took 5 surgeries to correct. Because of scar tisussue I will never be free from pain. (also trapped neves in my bracial plexis) My condition is called thoracic outlet syndrome, but I would be diagnosed with fibromyalgia if I didn't have the TOS. I still have all the symptoms of fibromyalgia though.
The meds regimine I've been on has helped me, plus trigger point injections, and also botox injections into the affected muscles. I am the best I have been in many years.

There's always a factor of doctors accusing those of us with chronic pain as "drug seekers", but in cases of REAL CHRONIC PAIN, this is not so. I've had my share of being accused over the years, and even being refused treatment. I have never been and am still not "addicted" to my med regimine. I've weaned myself off several meds, and am on the lowest dose of pain meds the doctor suggests. That is a great thing.

Of course, STRESS plays a HUGE PART in the amount of daily pain. I didn't even realize how much until my husband and I separated. Being around him was causing me so much stress that the pain was out of control. I've learned a lot since, and have been able to control the stress better.

I wish you well on your search for this. There are so many GOOD pain specialists out there..

I don't know if this has helped at all or not, but I hope it has.

Take care,
Dede

sec384
08-17-07, 05:16 PM
i, too have been diafnosed with intractable migraines and am in pain most days. i just started ritalin this past tuesdayand can't find a clear answer about whether it's cool with my hydrocodone. any ideas?

thanks,
susan

Scattered
08-18-07, 10:37 AM
A few months back I did something to both knees and the pain was pretty much constant. I don't take my Concerta regularly because it causes tics, but on a few occasions when I did take it my pain dropped almost to zero. It's an interesting question -- I'd love to know why that is.

As far as migraine pain goes, my stimulent medication brought on worse and more frequent migraines.


Scattered

leana
08-25-07, 10:42 AM
i too would like to know about chronic pain and stimulants! ive been taking ritalin three times a day, its great for giving me that"lift" and waking my brain up, but i really notice my back pain is worse,all the nerves feel like they are trying to jump out, spasms i think.but when i was on the adderall, my pain seemed to be well managed for some reason, but i also was so sedated, i was like a walking zombie.so the perfect add med for chronic pain sufferers,would be something that wakes your mind up, like the ritalin, but also puts your pain to sleep,like the adderall. if this med excists, please let me know!

dede4004
11-03-07, 11:18 AM
Hi,

I have an update on my meds and pain control. My new doctor has me on Wellbutrin and Lexopril. The combination has NOTICEABLY decreased my anxiety level but not my pain level as of yet. But, I do know that when my stress level is down my pain goes down, so I'm not sure why the med thing hasn't worked the same way.
He also discovered something new. (a ruptured disc in my neck) He said it is small and wasn't going to do anything about it. But, a disc problem causes pain regardless of size. It does answer why I've had such chronic pain on the spinal part of my neck.
I'm also going to get more Botox injections and have more tests. I'll let you know what happens.

QueensU_girl
11-10-07, 06:22 PM
Yeah, I've heard that Wellbutrin and stimulants make MSK (musculoskeletal) pain worse.

My mom has a herniated disk with neuropathic pain, and they made her worse too.

For bodilly pain, i found LLLT (Low level Laser therapy) works well. No potential serious side effects like BOTOX (e.g. ICU on ventilator).

The NBA and NHL players and Olympic athletes use Laser all the time.

You are right about Stress and pain. Stress tightens muscles, causing pain increases, yup. it's biochemical.


MSK issues are the main cause of back/neck/spinal pains. Muscles {that are too tight/shortened with spasm/weak/loose) can pull disks out etc.)


Each Vertebrae has several sets of muscles pulling on it, remember. (e.g. multifidi; rotatores, erector spinaes, etc.)




http://www.americanacademyofmanualmedicine.com/disorders/disorders_files/musclgd/back/12867406.html





PS have you read Devan Starlanyl's book?

QueensU_girl
11-10-07, 06:28 PM
re: disks and pain (interventional radiology)

Imaging {Xrays/CT/MRI) etc is not always accurate regarding disks and pain.

Bad Imaging Results & no pain/symptoms
A person can have a Grade 1+ slip on imaging and have no pain.

Healthy looking Imagine Results & terrible pain/symptoms
On the Corollary, A person can have a 'negative' imaging picture and have terrible pain.

Studies have shown that "what you see" is not always the same as the "symptoms" and "pain".

This is why spinal pain is such a mystery!

Mary
01-24-08, 11:42 PM
I'm no longer on any of my meds.. one of the main reasons I don't come in like I used to. Lots of pain and stress and more. Sitting here with a heating pad on my back and shoulders as I type. Have to alternate between ice packs and heat in order to survive. What's worse is, I live in Michigan. Hubby refuses to move to a warmer climate. If anyone wants to ask questions feel free to... one thing is to read as much as you can about Fibro, chronic fatigue and even arthritis... RA sometimes follows these diagnosis.

VisualImagery
01-25-08, 12:30 AM
I have Fibro and here are some things I learned or experienced:

Concerta does help me with my fibro symptoms but is not a cure nor does is completely relieve the pain. So here is a list of other things that help.

Massage therapy is an excellent pain reliever---every 2-3 weeks helped me so much--off work and can't afford right now.

Walking--when I got in shape for a long trip I noticed my fibro pain was almost completely gone. Balance disorder now and off my walking for now.

Magnesium relaxes muscles, 400mg a day is recommended for women, most of our diets don't provide enough Mg as it is.

New Disovery---Tricyclic Antidepressants--Desipramine, the drug info said it can be used to treat chronic pain and migraines. I can't take SSRI's and needed and Antidepressant, this one is working very well, just have to be careful about drug interactions. I have less fibro pain with this med than with any of the SSRI's--they actually caused a lot of muscle tension for me.

Reflexology-Foot or Hand you can do much of this yourself, although you might want to get a book or take lessons or have a session to learn more. I haven't, but am trying this out to see if it helps. Learned about it in depression support.

Deep Relaxation, Guided Imagery, and/or Mindfulness Meditation all of these methods teach you different ways to deeply relax muscles, breathe from the abdomen, focus your mind on the present and many more I don't know about yet. I do know it helps my ADD focus internal and external and is helping me deal with chronic illness in a positive way.

Stretching find a good book on stretching at the bookstore and start out gently with only a few and build up from there. If you really can't walk yet, this is the place to begin. It feels good, can be almost meditative one you develop a routine, and is very therapeutic for fibro. No bouncing just hold each stretch for about 30 seconds or until you feel the muscle relax. Longer stretching increases flexibility, short stretches won't relieve pain like long, gentle stretching.

Those are some of the modalites I use, have used and plan on using again. Nothing works perfectly, but you can improve your health and lower your pain levels, without drugs! The only medication I noted was tricyclics but that is not a common option with the advent of SSRI's. And there is always Aleve when you really need it---or Advil or whatever you like and can take.

VI

Desperate1
01-28-08, 11:30 AM
great post Visual! I'd like to add accupuncture to your list. If you can afford it or have insurance that will give you a discount on it (several will. I wouldn't have known mine did but I called and luckily they do), I highly suggest giving it a shot. I think you can also have it done cheaply or even free if you go to a place where people are being trained. I used to think it was a lot of hooey, but now I don't.

Mary
02-06-08, 09:19 PM
Thanks for those tips.

meldome
06-08-08, 06:59 AM
Hello

I've been on Ritalin for only a short while. Migraine headaches have been a constant problem for me for quite some time. I have noticed that since I've begun taking Ritalin, I've been able to control the Migraine pain better. An ice pack on the pain center and/ or, an Excedrin Migraine pill ,( which hasn't really worked well for me in years! ), seems to do the trick. I also concentrate on the idea that it is only pain and it will go away. In short time, it does. I'm sure it's the Ritalin. I'm a lot more relaxed and not as tense as before.

qhcowgirl
06-08-08, 11:18 AM
I'm not on meds so I don't know if they help with chronic pain, but I'm always in pain too. I have a messed up foot, ankle, knee and hip from accidents plus my head always hurts -- probably from the concussions I've had. Not migraines or bad headaches. Just a dull ache always there. Then my upper back, neck, and shoulders and sometimes lower back hurt all the time. Can't sleep w/o tylenol pm and lots of icy hot.

Mary
06-08-08, 11:31 AM
In my research today.. I read on at least 2 different sites...that a diet high in Vitamin A ... helps reduce pain in Fibro patients. But I also read that yes, ADD meds help reduce pain in patients.

Probably already been posted..but sometimes it doesn't hurt to re-read things.

http://www.immunesupport.com/library/showarticle.cfm/ID/4089/e/1/T/CFIDS_FM/

http://www.emedicine.com/med/byname/Immunoglobulin-A-Deficiency.htm

mrsmith
09-05-08, 08:46 AM
1) I think "psychiatric" medication can often can often reduce subjective feeling of pain. Though I don't think this is ADD medication.

2) Stimulant ADD medication can often help firbomyalgia at the same time as ADD.

3) Some antidepressants can help by improving restorative sleep.

Colin
09-05-08, 09:19 AM
I have read somewhere over the last few days, how dopamine or noradrenaline is involved in the mediation of transmision of pain, and from that it seems quite pluasible that it can reduce pain. i think this was in relation to pain with parkinsons disaese.