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AbuNoor
03-31-10, 03:16 PM
My daughter is learning disabled in mathematics.

For me, this is a little bit of a shocker. I have a degree in math, as do several other folks in my family including one sister, my mother, my aunt, a couple of cousins, and others. My other sister has a degree in physics.

I have been working with her two hours or more each week just on the math portions of her homework. She's in first grade, so it's mostly addition, subtraction, and patterns.

Anyway, she just received a school diagnosis of a learning disability in math, so they are working with her on that, and will be giving me some ideas to use at home. You might think that teaching math to her would be a snap for me, but since I didn't struggle with it like she does I have a hard time understanding where the difficulties are.

If anyone is willing to tell me what helped them with a learning disability in math I would love to hear it.


Thanks in advance,
Adam

AnitaL76
04-01-10, 06:46 PM
Hi Adam
My daughter has a LD with regards to both math and reading. When we got the diagnosis it helped a lot as the schools dont worry much about special adaptations for certain kids until they have a diagnosis on record. Now that you have the diagnosis you can arrange for an IEP to get adaptations put in place for her so she can learn easier. My daughters IEP (with regards to math) allows her to use a calculator (where the rest of the kids are expected to do without) in order to take away the stress of the time constraint. she still learns the same stuff as the other kids just in a bit different way. Also having the IEP allows for resource teachers to pull your daughter out of class where she would be having difficulty and giving one-on-one attention to speed learning.
Anita

AbuNoor
04-02-10, 07:36 PM
We just met yesterday with the teacher, the school psychologist, and the specialist who runs the extra help center at the school to formulate an IEP. They are going to be giving her extra one-on-one help regularly, and we set out goals for her to meet.

We also discussed some things that might work and some strategies I can use at home. We're going to use more visuals. I am thinking about asking if they will let her use an abacus to do addition and subtraction. Right now she uses her fingers and pretends she's counting princesses. That works pretty well but when she runs out of fingers you can definitely tell.

I am glad this was noticed now (1st grade) and not allowed to fester for years.

Adam

Crazygirl79
04-03-10, 04:59 PM
I'm also learning disabled in maths, the teachers did everything they could to help me but I could never grasp the concept of maths...I figured mid way through high school that I wasn't going to do a job that required me to know half of the maths they were teaching anyway so why bother stressing myself out with it and feeling bad all the time.

I do however know the basics and the basics is all I need to survive in life and as long as your daughter knows the basics later in life then that should be good enough and yes it is good that they picked that up in 1st grade because there is a chance of some improvement even if it remains her weak point, mine wasn't picked up until 7th grade and there's been slight improvement over the years but I needed that in school so she is lucky in that sense and so are you really as the frustration won't be as bad.

Selena

michinyuja
04-14-10, 07:33 AM
I think the problem lies in the use of "learning disabled". :confused:

Since nowadays, regular ol' people are expected to be good at every single human activity, "learning disabled" is used instead of "not good at..."

No one in my family is very good at math. Therefore, when I stunk at it, no one was surprised. They didn't make me waste tons of time on math. Instead, they patted me on the head and told me to try my best. They did try to engage extra tutors for me, but I hated it and I totally won that battle by making the teachers cry. :mad:

I excelled in everything but math and science. Rock on. That was good enough to get me everywhere I wanted to go. College, law school, etc.

In college, I decided I wanted to kick butt in calculus. I spent many, many hours with my textbook, a supplementary guide, my class notes, my homework assignments, and my Chinese classmate who had a crush on me. I still got a C. :o

That taught me to stop wasting time on things I suck at and hate anyway. I spend just enough time on them to establish that I hate them and suck at them, then I move on to finding someone to do all my math for me.


Since she's in first grade, is it possible for you guys to just LET her slide in math and just concentrate on something she's really good at instead? Or maybe on finding other things she is very good at, to diversify her future money-making and success potential? :D

I always thought grades were a reflection of the teacher's ability rather than the student's, anyway. :rolleyes:

meadd823
04-15-10, 01:52 AM
michinyuja while I agree that no one should waste their time focusing on achieving the unachievable - I also agree we all have things we suck at which simply means we are human.

I do however disagree that a learning disablement is the same things as simply not being good at some thing - I cannot sing - I can carry a tune but my voice sucks that make singing a weak area but I do not need to sing in order to function as a productive member of society At least half of society is tone deaf but it is not considered a learning disability because perfect musical pitch isn't a requirement for many jobs - besides there is a host of musicians and singers who would be unemployed if it weren't for the gift of tone deafness in a vast majority of the population.

However math and reading are required to function even at rudimentary levels of life - One must be able to at least add and subtract on order to pay bills,buy groceries. . . One must know how to read in order to even read a restaurant menu. Writing is required for most jobs . . . People who suck at spelling maybe struggle to learn how to do it - they can learn but it may take longer and require Herculean measures but learning is possible.

People who are dyslexic can not learn to spell beyond a certain level {rote memory capacity as phonetic ability is lacking in most of us} no matter how hard they try. Some folks as per your example can not learn calculus no matter how much time and effort is put into the process - the abilities necessary to master the skill simply do not exist . . . hence learning disability more than just a weak area but a necessary skill in which a person is unable to acquire despite effort and average to above average intelligence



Anyway, she just received a school diagnosis of a learning disability in math, so they are working with her on that, and will be giving me some ideas to use at home. You might think that teaching math to her would be a snap for me, but since I didn't struggle with it like she does I have a hard time understanding where the difficulties are.

If anyone is willing to tell me what helped them with a learning disability in math I would love to hear it

I can not help you with the math but I do know what it is like to have a learning disability in a family whose members ex excel in that area - Most people in my family can read at the speed of light and spell any thing correctly simply by sounding it out - Not me I was "blessed" with dyslexia My mom was told I would probably never learn to read above a fourth grade level and I would be lucky if I could learn to write well enough to fill out a standard job application. . .

This was 40 years ago so the knowledge of today did not exist - My mom simply refused to give up on me - she was going to do all in her power to teach me how to read ans she was willing to try any and every means she could imagine to assist with that - My mom never expected me to be some thing I was not and she learned about me so she could work with who I was

What she did back four decades ago is not called multi-sensory learning - She figured out phonetic was useless so she went tactile and visual - I "felt" the letters - I memorized how to spell words - I can spell more on a type writer than I can by hand because I can memorize the key patterns better than the letter patterns themselves because I can feel the finger movement Reading was a huge challenge


I did not think I would every learn. . mom would work with me in 15-30 minute increments {I was hyper active so sitting was also a challenge = I needed lot of wiggle breaks to keep brain awake and cooperating}

Well I was older than most but it seemed like by the time I was in high school as if my magic I read - Ohh I struggle with simple words when they appear by them selves . . . I word written on a peice of paper without any references those I can not read at much higher than a fourth or fifth grade level but I can read and comprehend scientific papers written for a PhD -

I read in context complete sentences at a time - so by all means allow for quirks and take those victories where they come and realize she may do math like I do reading - lack comprehension at the simple but grasp the complex without really knowing how it happens . . . . also allow for use of assistant devices - the abacus is an excellent idea = tactile visual and auditory input - It sounds like you are much like my mom - intuitive!

One of the things my elementary school educational experts did not know about was future technology - the access to computer technology which allows me to write at a much more advance level via means of spell checkers, grammar assistance and and audio devices that allow me to by pass the need for phonetics to a greater degree in decades past.

I hope you find this helpful . . . . .:)