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pembliss
04-12-10, 02:21 PM
So, this is the official "Adderall IR Generics Information Thread." I decided to create this after seeing so many questions about the adderall IR generics (and having many questions myself).

Hopefully this will help answer some questions.

Here's how it will go: I will list each generic manufacturer (Sandoz, Barr, CorePharma) and the NDC#, imprint, photo and inactive ingredients for each tablet strength. I may have to make multiple posts to fit it all in, so if you see this before I've posted them all, please be patient. :)

I have also included information on the old Shire name brand, though I have not been able to find as much definitive information on the new Teva "name brand" so if you have this info and can supplement it, feel free to do so.

If a tablet strength for a particular generic is not listed, it is because that manufacturer does not produce that strength of tablet (For example, Sandoz does not make a 15mg tablet...)

Here we go....

SANDOZ (formerly "EON")

Sandoz 5mg Tablet
NDC #: 0185-0084

Imprint: E;84

Inactive Ingredients:
FD&C BLUE NO. 1
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/custom/pill11167-1.gif


Sandoz 10mg Tablet
NDC #: 0185-0111

Imprint: E;111

Inactive Ingredients:
FD&C BLUE NO. 1
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/custom/pill11164-1.gif


Sandoz 20mg Tablet
NDC #: 0185-0401

Imprint: E;401

Inactive Ingredients:
FD&C YELLOW NO. 6
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/custom/pill11165-1.jpg


Sandoz 30mg Tablet
NDC #: 0185-0404

Imprint: E;404

Inactive Ingredients:
FD&C YELLOW NO. 6
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/custom/pill11166-1.jpg



BARR (AKA "TEVA")

Barr 5mg Tablet
NDC#: 0555-0971

Imprint: b;971;5

Inactive Ingredients:
COLLOIDAL SILICON DIOXIDE
STARCH, CORN
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
SACCHARIN SODIUM
FD&C BLUE NO. 1

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mtm/Amphetamine-Dextroamphetamine%205%20mg-BAR.jpg


Barr 7.5mg Tablet
NDC#: 0555-0775

Imprint: b;775;7;1;2

Inactive Ingredients:
COLLOIDAL SILICON DIOXIDE
STARCH, CORN
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
SACCHARIN SODIUM
FD&C BLUE NO. 1

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mtm/Amphetamine-Dextroamphetamine%207.5%20mg-BAR.jpg


Barr 10mg Tablet
NDC#: 0555-0972

Imprint: b;972;1;0

Inactive Ingredients:
COLLOIDAL SILICON DIOXIDE
STARCH, CORN
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
SACCHARIN SODIUM
FD&C BLUE NO. 1

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mtm/Amphetamine-Dextroamphetamine%2010%20mg-BAR.jpg


Barr 12.5mg Tablet
NDC#: 0555-0776

Imprint: b;776;12;1;2

Inactive Ingredients:
COLLOIDAL SILICON DIOXIDE
STARCH, CORN
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
SACCHARIN SODIUM
FD&C YELLOW NO. 6

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mtm/Amphetamine-Dextroamphetamine%2012.5%20mg-BAR.jpg


Barr 15mg Tablet
NDC#: 0555-0777

Imprint: b;777;1;5

Inactive Ingredients:
COLLOIDAL SILICON DIOXIDE
STARCH, CORN
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
SACCHARIN SODIUM
FD&C YELLOW NO. 6

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mtm/Amphetamine-Dextroamphetamine%2015%20mg-BAR.jpg


Barr 20mg Tablet
NDC#: 0555-0973

Imprint: b;973;2;0

Inactive Ingredients:
COLLOIDAL SILICON DIOXIDE
STARCH, CORN
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
SACCHARIN SODIUM
FD&C YELLOW NO. 6

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mtm/Amphetamine-Dextroamphetamine%2020%20mg-BAR.jpg


Barr 30mg Tablet
NDC#: 0555-0974

Imprint: b;974;3;0

Inactive Ingredients:
COLLOIDAL SILICON DIOXIDE
STARCH, CORN
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
SACCHARIN SODIUM
FD&C YELLOW NO. 6

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mtm/Amphetamine-Dextroamphetamine%2030%20mg-BAR.jpg



COREPHARMA

CorePharma 5mg Tablet
NDC#: 64720-130

Imprint: cor;130

Inactive Ingredients:
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
STARCH, CORN
FD&C BLUE NO. 2

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/custom/pill12833-1.jpg


CorePharma 10mg Tablet
NDC#: 64720-132

Imprint: cor;132

Inactive Ingredients:
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
STARCH, CORN
FD&C BLUE NO. 2

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/custom/pill12834-1.jpg


CorePharma 20mg Tablet
NDC#: 64720-135

Imprint: cor;135

Inactive Ingredients:
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
STARCH, CORN
D&C RED NO. 27

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/custom/pill12835-1.jpg


CorePharma 30mg Tablet
NDC#: 64720-136

Imprint: cor;136

Inactive Ingredients:
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
STARCH, CORN
D&C RED NO. 27

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/custom/pill12836-1.jpg



SHIRE (former name brand manufacturer)

Shire 5mg Tablet
NDC#: 54092-371

Imprint: 5;AD

Inactive Ingredients:
lactitol
microcrystalline cellulose
colloidal silicon dioxide
magnesium stearate
"other ingredients" (not specified due to patent)

Photo (2 photos found- not sure why- enlighten me if you know the difference):
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mtm/Adderall%205%20mg.jpg
AND
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mmx/t100864f/adderall.jpg


Shire 7.5mg Tablet
NDC#: 54092-372

Imprint: 7.5;AD

Inactive Ingredients:
lactitol
microcrystalline cellulose
colloidal silicon dioxide
magnesium stearate
"other ingredients" (not specified due to patent)

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mmx/t104143f/adderall.jpg


Shire 10mg Tablet
NDC#: 54092-373

Imprint: 10;AD

Inactive Ingredients:
lactitol
microcrystalline cellulose
colloidal silicon dioxide
magnesium stearate
"other ingredients" (not specified due to patent)

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mtm/Adderall%2010%20mg.jpg


Shire 12.5mg Tablet
NDC#: 54092-374

Imprint: 12.5;AD

Inactive Ingredients:
lactitol
microcrystalline cellulose
colloidal silicon dioxide
magnesium stearate
"other ingredients" (not specified due to patent)

Photo:
NO PHOTO FOUND


Shire 15mg Tablet
NDC#: 54092-375

Imprint: 15;AD

Inactive Ingredients:
lactitol
microcrystalline cellulose
colloidal silicon dioxide
magnesium stearate
"other ingredients" (not specified due to patent)

Photo:
NO PHOTO FOUND (Orange, Elliptical)


Shire 20mg Tablet
NDC#: 54092-376

Imprint: 20;AD

Inactive Ingredients:
lactitol
microcrystalline cellulose
colloidal silicon dioxide
magnesium stearate
"other ingredients" (not specified due to patent)

Photo (2 photos found- not sure why- enlighten me if you know the difference):
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mtm/Adderall%2020%20mg.jpg
AND
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mmx/t102401f/adderall.jpg



Shire 30mg Tablet
NDC#: 54092-377

Imprint: 30;AD

Inactive Ingredients:
lactitol
microcrystalline cellulose
colloidal silicon dioxide
magnesium stearate
"other ingredients" (not specified due to patent)

Photo:
http://images.ddccdn.com/images/pills/mmx/t101133f/adderall.jpg



New TEVA "NAME BRAND"
I have been unable to find definitive information. The Teva website indicates that the new Teva "AdderallŽ" name brand tablets are identical to the Barr/Teva generic (same imprint, same NDC#).

See here: http://www.tevausa.com/default.aspx?pageid=76

If this is incorrect and you are taking Teva Name Brand, please update with the correct color, imprint, etc. and a photo if you have it. That would be great!

pembliss
04-12-10, 02:35 PM
If anything above is unclear, please feel free to post questions and if I can't answer them I'm sure someone else will be able to.

Also, I may update it with XR information, but I don't have that all compiled yet, so it would take some research. If someone else wants to use the above post as a template to make a similar post about Adderall XR and its current generic, please do!!

One last thing: I might post another new thread for people's various experiences with various generics. I think it would also be useful to have one spot where people share their experiences. So many people have questions about the different generics and the various side effects, etc. that they're experiencing. It can be not just frustrating but SCARY. So having a resource for people to explore in such cases might be helpful.

CalmTheChaos
04-12-10, 02:47 PM
Thanks, pembliss! I'm sure this thread will be very helpful for many people.

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Here is a picture of Teva "Brand Name" Adderall IR 30mg:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5434/tevaadderall30.jpg

(Sorry for the poor image quality!)

I will try to find an official ingredient list. But, I do know for a fact it has Saccharin in it (blech). This is what gives it that sickly sweet taste and lingering aftertaste.

I find this especially perplexing, since the Feingold diet and other dietary sources for treatment of AD(H)D specify to avoid Saccharin completely. Yet, Teva/Barr still chose to include it in the formulation for no apparent reason.

pembliss
04-12-10, 05:19 PM
Ok, I think I figured it out.

Shire sold the rights to manufacture the name brand to Duramed. Duramed was owned by Barr. So when Teva bought Barr, it also acquired Duramed and the rights to the name brand.

"dp" is the imprint for Duramed.

FINALLY! I COULD NOT figure that out before.

Ok, so to add more info, here is a photo of the Duramed 10mg tablet:
http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w347/tysoncody/DuramedLogo.jpg

I can't find any information on NDC numbers or anything else (including other photos) at this point. But I'll work on it.

ADHDTigger
04-12-10, 11:20 PM
MODERATOR NOTE TIME

Thanks to Pembliss who took the time to research this and post this thread. I hear how people are being affected by changes and feel like they don't even know what they are taking because the different generics affect people so differently.

I really want to keep this information together so that there is an easy resource for finding it.

Join in! What are you taking, how is it impacting you and let people give you their impressions of what has worked, what hasn't and how to get help in finding the right generic for you.

kid@heart
04-13-10, 02:32 AM
This is so awesome! I so hope you do it too with the adderall XR. That's what I take and the more I read I am POSITIVE there is a difference between the brand name and the generic brands. Like I said, I started the generic adderall XR a year ago when it first became available and things have gone nothing but down hill since then! I'd taken the 10 mg adderall XR brand name for 4 years before that without a problem. I want my focus back! :(

pembliss
04-13-10, 10:42 AM
kid@heart: I hope someone does an XR thread too. I don't know anything about XR, but I know people are having the same name brand vs. generics problems with XR as with IR. Hopefully someone who knows about XR will see this thread and decide to create something similar.

pembliss
04-13-10, 10:52 AM
ABBREVIATIONS:

I thought it might also be helpful if people wanted to share how the generic name is abbreviated on their prescriptions bottles. This has come up in quite a few posts- people are unsure if they've even received the right prescription. Since the generic name for Adderall is so long, it's always abbreviated, but those abbreviations vary quite a bit.

I'll share mine. Here are some of the abbreviations I've had on my bottle before:

"Dextroamphet Combo"
"D-amp Salt Combo"
"Amphetamine Salts"
"Mixed Amphetamine Salts"


If you've had something else, please post!

krb388
04-16-10, 06:52 PM
This month my refill was called AMPHETAMINE SALTS 30 MG TABSAN

Normally my adderall makes me stay focused and I can consentrate perfctly. With this new refill I feel tired spacey. I forget what im doing or what im looking for. I feel worn and just plain tired. I can't even think while im writing this. I do have a rapid heart beat I guess thats the only thing telling my unmotivated and tired self that i took my medication today.

I litterally feel like I have the flu and I can't stop daydreaming. Did something change in this medication IMPRINT E 404.

pembliss
04-16-10, 08:20 PM
This month my refill was called AMPHETAMINE SALTS 30 MG TABSAN

Normally my adderall makes me stay focused and I can consentrate perfctly. With this new refill I feel tired spacey. I forget what im doing or what im looking for. I feel worn and just plain tired. I can't even think while im writing this. I do have a rapid heart beat I guess thats the only thing telling my unmotivated and tired self that i took my medication today.

I litterally feel like I have the flu and I can't stop daydreaming. Did something change in this medication IMPRINT E 404.

That imprint is Sandoz. Is this a change for you or have you been on Sandoz for a while? I don't know anything about a change in the Sandoz formula, but perhaps someone else who sees this thread will be able to help.

addsnoopy
04-29-10, 11:37 PM
Generics are trash. Ive been on XR for 7 years, then changed to generics and my life when to hell. The "brand" XR now is bunk too. All generics even the stamped "XR" pills. I am desperate now. Tried vyvanse and it gave anxiety and no motivation. I got nothing now but depression and my career going into the waste bucket. Shire needs to be prosecuted for this.

Rune
05-04-10, 03:20 AM
Out of all of the meds, by far I have had the best luck with CorePharma. My local Rite Aid is able to order it for me, and completely believed me when I told them Barr gave me weird side effects. After looking at the inactives, I think I have a pretty good idea why. Core is almost entirely fiber based filler, and Barr is Sand, fiber and saccharin *salt* based. I have major issues with salts. Not to mention if you look up the history of saccharin, the FDA tried to ban it for close to 100 years. Its only been in the past few years they have repented on it. It has been shown to be a potential carcinogen, as well as bad for the body.

MRS_Update
05-17-10, 08:20 PM
So I am new here, and recently diagnosed ADHD-PI. I had an unsettling experience similar to what I have read here which I wanted to share; I believe this would be the correct thread. So, after diagnosis my doctor issued me a script for 10 mg ER mixed amphetamine salts. I dropped it off at the pharmacy during lunch and picked it up that evening after work. I'll save you from the rambling and just say that the pharmacy gave me 10 mg IR mixed amphetamine salts made by Barr (which I was not aware of at the time that they were IR, just discovered the difference). I took my first dose the next morning as directed, and it was an immediate difference. All my bills were paid in 10 minutes, I created a budget for the month, all the piles disappeared and I felt so tranquil, my mind was at peace. It also totally eliminated the need for me to take Klonopin for SAD. The doc warned it might exacerbate my anxiety, but it had exactly the opposite effect! Problem is, it wore off after 4 hours when the doc sad it should last 10-12. I returned to the pharmacy to find out what was up, at which time I discovered the difference, and that I had taken the IR formulation. They apologized profusely and gave me the correct script for ER. Only the label said "Dextroamp-Amphet ER 10 mg" (Teva), not "Mixed Amphetamine Salts 10 mg" (Barr). I assumed it was the same and went home. Next day, I take the ER dose, and I felt absolutely nothing. Maybe even worse. Called the doc and described it, he said take two ER's, they should equal a 10 mg IR. Did that, now I feel motivated but my mind wanders more than usual and I get angry sometimes (which rarely happened before). Also, my anxiety came back with a vengeance. I do not believe that IR and ER are the same medicine at all. I assumed they were, just one had a longer duration of therapeutic effects. From what I've read on here, lots of people have been experiencing similar things. Just wanted to add my $0.02 on the topic, and perhaps gain some more info or help someone out. Take care!

LoveSoCal06
05-18-10, 12:59 AM
I have to say the Corepharma has not been so good for me. I would like to try a different generic to eliminate more of my side effects i seem to get with the corepharma. side effects i have when i take corepharma are, head ache always! No motivation,Sleepy and not wanting to be around anyone. I am hopeing to switch to a different generic and have the side effects lessen, i would love to hear from anyone else experiancing the side effects while using the Corepharma. And it would be even more helpful if you could please let me know what other generic you got better results from. Thank you everyone and this is a great thread, very very helpful!

MRS_Update
05-18-10, 07:47 AM
SoCal: The 10 mg generic tab I had was made by Barr Pharmaceuticals and provided excellent therapeutic effect for me. Your physiology is different, i'm sure, but it's worth a try if you are having a negative experience with corepharma. I can't provide a reference, since Barr is the only IR brand I have taken. I can tell you the Teva ER generic had absolutely no effect on my symptoms and made them worse, with side effects similar to what you describe. Hopefully you find what works for you!

artangelw/add
05-24-10, 03:31 PM
There is definantly a difference in generics! I Went from Barr to tabsan and back to barr because of side effects! But my question is my bottle says amphet salt CMB...does anyone know what the CMB stand for??
Thanks in advanced!

Josh_kelly
05-24-10, 06:47 PM
tab san is tablets by sandoz

ampt salt comb is ampthamine salt combination

the 4 salts in adderall

1/4 dextroamphetamine saccharate
1/4 dextroamphetamine sulfate
1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-)amphetamine aspartate monohydrate
1/4 (racemic dextro/levo-)amphetamine sulfate

JamesJ
06-16-10, 02:27 PM
I see that Sandoz makes generic adderall in 5,10, 20 and 30mg. Are those IR or XR? Or do they make both in those mg?

CalmTheChaos
06-16-10, 04:18 PM
I see that Sandoz makes generic adderall in 5,10, 20 and 30mg. Are those IR or XR? Or do they make both in those mg?

That is IR only.

meridian
06-21-10, 06:22 PM
OK so I've started on Barr 5 mg tabs. My rx is for 1 a day or take a second one 6 hours after the first.

I found that taking 1 with breakfast and then a second one 2-4 hours later seems best for me.

Had 1 night of interrupted sleep, fine after that (this is day 4).

Had some urgent and loose stools (ugh) hopefully that is over and today 6 hours after my last (2nd) dose I am crashing (very sleepy). FWIW

tomlinson
06-22-10, 11:33 PM
In addition to the differering formulations of the various generics,
there is the major issue of quality control - the quality of generic drugs varies from batch to batch.


Reports of the varying degrees of effectiveness of different generic drugs can often be traced to this issue of spotty quality control.


Often, this is "turned around" so that the cause is stated to be a particular patient's "reaction to different binders and fillers" in the generic drug.


But, the fact is that the FDA is continually finding generic drugs that are not up to spec with regard to their active ingredient(s) or otherwise.


Just one specific example of many: in 2009, Teva/Barr had to recall a batch of 20mg generic Adderall IR tablets because they contained far too much of their active ingredient(s).

Anyone who took these tablets may have been seen as "difficult" or "crazy" - until the batch was actually analyzed chemically.
At that point, the real issue became clear.

See: http://www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/SafetyInformation/SafetyAlertsforHumanMedicalProducts/ucm177434.htm

Timm625
06-30-10, 08:50 PM
I've had ADD/ADHD since i was 12, so for about 8 years now. The entire time i have been on what i believe are the "Barr" generic brand, my doses have varied but normally consist of either 2 of the 10 mg blue oval pills in the morning, and one in the afternoon, or 1 20 mg orange oval pill in the morning, and one in the afternoon. It has always helped me concentrate and focus in school, work, and just my social life. I've seen/felt very few negative effects, such as if i don't eat my lunch before my second dose of the day, i may have trouble eating, or if i take my second dose reallll late, ill have a little trouble sleeping. But these problems were not everyday and not severe.

I recently just moved from new york to Kansas and have found my prescriptions are being filled with the Corepharma 20 mg pink round pills. The first day i started taking them, i found i could concentrate and focus, but after about an hour of it kicking it, i started getting jittery, and then even becoming very tired, finding myself nodding off. After about a week and a half on it now, i'm finding the same results as the first day, but when a dull constant headache. My parents have told me that i am edgy and not the same, although i can't tell. All in all, i'm quite upset with these Corepharma pills and am going to stop taking them and try to find a pharmacy around here with the Barr generics which i find extraordinarily helpful, with little side effects.

I have never had the brand name Adderall IR, and if i can not find the Barr generic around here, i will give it a try and let you all know how it goes...

As for Adderall XR, i know very little, i was originally perscribed it, and once again had the Barr generic, it worked well, but i found it basically impossible to eat lunch/throughout the day and switched to the IR on suggestion from my doctor after only a few months on it.

Is it possible the inactive ingredients effect absorption rate, or how the drug effects your body at all?

sleepy
06-30-10, 10:30 PM
Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, Amphetamine Aspartate, Dextroamphetamine Sulfate and Amphetamine Suflate
(Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, Amphetamine Asparatate, Dextroamphetamine Sulfate and Amphetamine Sulfate)
Barr Laboratories Inc. * Ver: 2 (R4)
Feb 18, 2010 Tablet ANDA
ANDA040422 Human Prescription Drug Label
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SACCHARATE (DEXTROAMPHETAMINE) DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SACCHARATE 5 mg
AMPHETAMINE ASPARTATE (AMPHETAMINE)
AMPHETAMINE ASPARTATE 5 mg
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SULFATE (DEXTROAMPHETAMINE) DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SULFATE 5 mg
AMPHETAMINE SULFATE (AMPHETAMINE)
AMPHETAMINE SULFATE 5 mg
COLLOIDAL SILICON DIOXIDE
STARCH, CORN
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
SACCHARIN SODIUM
FD&C YELLOW NO. 6


Adderall
(Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, Amphetamine Aspartate, Dextroamphetamine Sulfate and Amphetamine Sulfate)
Shire US Inc. Ver: 1 (R3)
Sep 18, 2006 Tablet
Human Prescription Drug Label
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SACCHARATE (DEXTROAMPHETAMINE) ACTIVE 5 MILLIGRAM IN 1 TABLET AMPHETAMINE ASPARTATE MONOHYDRATE
(AMPHETAMINE) ACTIVE 5 MILLIGRAM IN 1 TABLET
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SULFATE
(DEXTROAMPHETAMINE) ACTIVE 5 MILLIGRAM IN 1 TABLET
AMPHETAMINE SULFATE
(AMPHETAMINE) ACTIVE 5 MILLIGRAM IN 1 TABLET
LACTITOL INACTIVE
MICROCRYSTALLINE CELLULOSE INACTIVE
COLLOIDAL SILICON DIOXIDE INACTIVE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE INACTIVE
OTHER INGREDIENTS INACTIVE


Dextroamphetamine saccharate, amphetamine aspartate monohydrate, dextroamphetamine sulfate and amphetamine sulfate
(Dextroamphetamine saccharate, amphetamine aspartate monohydrate, dextroamphetamine sulfate and amphetamine sulfate)
Corepharma LLC * Ver: 9 (R4)
Feb 12, 2010 Tablet ANDA
ANDA040444 Human Prescription Drug Label
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SACCHARATE (DEXTROAMPHETAMINE)
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SACCHARATE5 mg
AMPHETAMINE ASPARTATE (AMPHETAMINE)
AMPHETAMINE ASPARTATE5 mg
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SULFATE (DEXTROAMPHETAMINE)
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SULFATE5 mg
AMPHETAMINE SULFATE (AMPHETAMINE)
AMPHETAMINE SULFATE 5 mg
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
STARCH, CORN
D&C RED NO. 27


Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, Amphetamine Aspartate, Dextroamphetamine Sulfate and Amphetamine Sulfate
(Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, Amphetamine Aspartate, Dextroamphetamine Sulfate and Amphetamine Sulfate)
Sandoz Inc * Ver: 7 (R4)
Feb 12, 2010 Tablet ANDA
ANDA040470, ... Human Prescription Drug Label
DEXTROAMPHETAMINESACCHARATE(DEXTROAMPHETAMINE)
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SACCHARATE5 mg
AMPHETAMINE ASPARTATE (AMPHETAMINE)
AMPHETAMINE ASPARTATE5 mg
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SULFATE (DEXTROAMPHETAMINE)
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SULFATE5 mg
AMPHETAMINE SULFATE (AMPHETAMINE)
AMPHETAMINE SULFATE5 mg
FD&C YELLOW NO. 6
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE


Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, Amphetamine Aspartate, Dextroamphetamine Sulfate, and Amphetamine Sulfate
(Dextroamphetamine Saccharate, Amphetamine Aspartate, Dextroamphetamine Sulfate, and Amphetamine Sulfate)
Teva Pharmaceuticals USA * Ver: 2 (R3)
Nov 09, 2007 Tablet
Human Prescription Drug Labeling
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SACCHARATE (DEXTROAMPHETAMINE)
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SACCHARATE5 mg
AMPHETAMINE ASPARTATE (AMPHETAMINE)
AMPHETAMINE ASPARTATE5 mg
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SULFATE (DEXTROAMPHETAMINE)
DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SULFATE5 mg
AMPHETAMINE SULFATE (AMPHETAMINE)
AMPHETAMINE SULFATE5 mg
COLLOIDAL SILICON DIOXIDE
STARCH, CORN
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
SACCHARIN SODIUM
FD&C YELLOW NO. 6

DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SACCHARATE (DEXTROAMPHETAMINE) ACTIVE 5 MILLIGRAM IN 1 TABLET AMPHETAMINE ASPARTATE
(AMPHETAMINE) ACTIVE 5 MILLIGRAM IN 1 TABLET DEXTROAMPHETAMINE SULFATE
(DEXTROAMPHETAMINE) ACTIVE 5 MILLIGRAM IN 1 TABLET AMPHETAMINE SULFATE
(AMPHETAMINE) ACTIVE 5 MILLIGRAM IN 1 TABLET
ACACIA INACTIVE
CORN STARCH INACTIVE
LACTOSE INACTIVE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE INACTIVE
SUCROSE INACTIVE
FD&C BLUE #1

sleepy
06-30-10, 10:51 PM
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sleepy
06-30-10, 10:52 PM
as you can see, sandoz has the fewest, hardly any fillers. does seem like the original adderal may be sold at some doctor's offices repackaged. i wonder if its possible to have our docs order it?

sleepy
06-30-10, 11:32 PM
ALSO ON THE FEB2010 BARR, BUT NOT ON THE CHART IS:

In addition, each tablet contains the following inactive ingredients:
colloidal silicon dioxide
compressible sugar
corn starch
magnesium stearate
microcrystalline cellulose
saccharin sodium.


The 5, 7.5 and 10 mg also contain FD&C blue no.1 aluminum lake.
The 12.5, 15, 20 and 30 mg also contain FD&C yellow no. 6 aluminum lake.

Timm625
07-01-10, 01:17 AM
I'm definitely going to my ask my doc as soon as i can, maybe even call around to a few different ones if he doesn't have it...

Also, I got a question, I've noticed that some have Amphetamine Asparate Monohydrate as an active ingredient, while some just simply have Amphetamine Asparate. What is this difference between the two? Or is there no difference, and some just happen to say it while others don't?

Cassie5920
07-26-10, 04:35 PM
Ok, I think I figured it out.

Shire sold the rights to manufacture the name brand to Duramed. Duramed was owned by Barr. So when Teva bought Barr, it also acquired Duramed and the rights to the name brand.

"dp" is the imprint for Duramed.

FINALLY! I COULD NOT figure that out before.

Ok, so to add more info, here is a photo of the Duramed 10mg tablet:
http://i522.photobucket.com/albums/w347/tysoncody/DuramedLogo.jpg

I can't find any information on NDC numbers or anything else (including other photos) at this point. But I'll work on it.
So, I just picked up my first rx for 10mg IR - twice a day (or broken up as needed as long as I don't go over the 20mg). Mine is the blue one with the upside down "d's" and "10" on the back. Are these the "good" Barr's or the bad ones? I mean, out of the Barr lovers out there.

Josh_kelly
07-26-10, 06:31 PM
its dp for duramed pharma which is owned by teva

these are the "new brand name adderall.

barr (owned by teva) makes these brand names not duramed.

but because barr make the generic. they dont want to have the tablets look by the same manuf

so they put dp. its legal anyways, they are all owned by teva.

so on the manuf bottle

brand would say (Teva) as the manuf
and generic would say barr. as the manuf

when i called to complain about the new brand formula to teva, they transferred me to barr.

when i called to complain about the generic to barr. barr number was not listed. instead they had teva 's number which is the same as before.

summary
1. brand with dp imprint made by barr (marketed as teva)
2. generic with b imprint is also made by barr (marketed as barr).

sugary and crumble pretty easy. both the same formula.
with the exception of barr little bit harder to crumble. which makes it last longer (little bit) in duration than the brand. but both are junk in my opinion.

jimbob1978
08-07-10, 11:07 AM
I'm 32 and have been on Adderall for about 6 months now. I'm a work-at-home web developer and computer programmer and do most all of my work online. I've been programming for about 20 years (yes, I started very early lol) and have been working online for about the past 5 years. I'm sure you can imagine how distracted I can get with all the YouTube'ing, FaceBook'ing, and everything else. Not only that, but I recently learned that my older brother was diagnosed some 25 years ago and he was on some form of this med for a while. But anyway, this is why decided to go see the doc about it.

The first month, the doc prescribed me the 20mg Generic XR type. I have no insurance to pay for this, so you can imagine my SHOCK when it ended up costing me some $140 to fill a 30-day prescription of "generic" Adderall. Also, I couldn't handle the "24-hour" medication. Why would I need it when I sleep?!? I spent several different days up for more than 24 hours.

The next month, I had the doc give me the IR type, so that "I" could choose when to be medicated throughout the day. He prescribed me "Barr b973 (20mg)" type. However, the pharmacy (CVS - I just picked one at random when they asked), gave me the "Sandoz E401 20mg" type even though the label on the bottle said "b973". This was only about $40. I was confused when I got home, so I looked it up, determined that it was in fact 20mg Adderall, and I took them anyway. They were OK I guess. I couldn't tell if they were better or worse than other brands, since I have not had anything other than the 20mg XR before. It was a lot better for me than the XR.

The next month, I got my script refilled again at CVS. This time, they actually gave me the right kind (b973). I found these to work much better for me than the previous month's brand. The doc instructed me to split the pill up into 2 halves and take one half in the morning and then then other half in the afternoon (a 10/10 split). I did that for a while, but I find it works better when I do a 15/10 split. Sometimes I do not even take the 2nd half of the day's dose. However I do it, I make sure I have enough left to make it the whole month without running out.

On the side-effect front, the only thing that I have noticed is the weight-loss. Before starting Adderall, I had developed a "beer-gut" and weighed about 165lbs. I gained most of this over the last 2 years due to various reasons. I was around the 140lb mark for most of my adult life. Now I am back down to my normally skinny self, hanging around the 140lb mark. It's not that I don't eat any food or anything, it just seems like no matter how much I eat, I can't keep any extra pounds on. This is fine with me. If I "do not" eat, I lose weight very quickly (I lost 4 pounds over a 24-hour period a couple times, but "pigged-out" and got it back). I have always had a very high metabolic rate though. The doc also has me watching my diet, since I have a slightly high blood-pressure (well, as high as 125/80 is pfft). This is sort of a catch-22 though. If I eat unhealthy/fattening foods, I can maintain my weight but have "high" blood pressure. If I eat "healthy" foods, I will wither away to nothing, but have good blood pressure. I certainly do not want to give up the meds just yet. They are working so well for me. Without them, I feel I will fall back into my unproductive state and bankrupt myself. What's a guy to do?? I only wish I had this back in my school-days. I was always the "eh, who gives a ####, I'd rather be somewhere else, just do enough to barely graduate" kind of person. Who knows where I would be today if I could have actually paid attention in class and cared about it!

On the pharmacy front, like I said, I initially chose CVS just because. That was a bad idea, because they will charge you out the yen-yang. Two months ago, I switch my pharmacy to Wal-Mart, and now I can get the same b973's for only about $20/month, as compared to CVS's $40.

One final observation about the "generic" form of this medicine - well, the b973 type anyway. I find that while breaking my pills in half, some break easier than others. The ones that are hard to break just don't seem to work as well as the easily-broken ones. My only guess is that the "harder" ones have more "fillers" in them or something. Just my guess though...

Well, I just thought I would share my experience. Hope this helps someone!

Cheers! :D

jules28
08-07-10, 11:45 AM
I've been on Adderall IR for a month, and tried the Sandoz brand at my brother's recommendation. It has done wonders for me, so I have no plans to try a different generic. The only problem is that I can only find it at a small pharmacy that is not very close to my house. I'll deal with that, though!

MRS_Update
08-12-10, 04:02 PM
I received "Sandoz" at my last refill, but it was still blue and scored and marked with the Eon "E". Did Sandoz just buy out Eon and allow them to continue producing and branding their version or what? Just curious.

TXMockingbird
09-12-10, 06:32 PM
After 8 months taking Vyvanse and it seeming to lose the effect it once had, I started generic Adderall today-- 30 mg in the morning, and then 30 mg five hours later. The company making the generic i'm taking is CorePharma. I was too late for the morning dose, so I took it at 2 pm and won't take a second dose later.

Will keep this thread apprised of progress or anything unusual. I'm also keeping a blog on it.

Thanks for starting this thread! :)

JShhhh
10-30-10, 05:10 PM
CVS filled my generic 20 mg IR script using Eons. For the past several months, they've worked well in that I have not developed a 'tolerance' to them as I had previous brands--however, I've gotten some RAGING headaches and neck tensions...which seem to coincide with the time I switched to this brand.

However, they always seem to come at the end of the day (and I always seem to forget to take that third dose and the headache comes at juuuust the worst time --when I don't want to risk taking it at 8:30 at night but can't just go to bed). Additionally, I'm in grad school and tend to run myself ragged and get insufficient sleep or nutrients for periods. So, who knows if it's the pill or 'user error' (i.e. my own fault!)

beauregard21
11-18-10, 02:47 AM
I posted this in a different thread originally, but I felt it could be useful here. If, anyone has any questions about my post just write my name at the beginning of a new post and ask. I check back often, and I'll try to answer any questions anyone may have.

Just did more research than was necessary and here's what I found:

When looking at the ACTIVE ingredients, NOT inactive ingredients there is a difference between SHIRE (original Adderall) Corepharma, and Teva/Barr Sandoz
The difference comes in when you get to the molecular formula and how generics get approval to be sold as generics.

Here's what it comes down to Teva/Barr and Sandoz use Amphetamine Aspartate in their formulas.
Shire and Corepharma use Amphetamine Aspartate Monohydrate, denoting a single molecule of H2O attached to this one chemical.

So, Shire and Corepharma have an H2O molecule that Teva/Barr and Sandoz DO NOT have. Doesn't seem like that big of a difference right? But wait there's more!
Consider that there are FOUR amphetamine molecules used in Adderall: Dextroamphetamine Saccharate - Dextroamphetamine Sulfate - Amphetamine Aspartate Monohydrate (sometimes JUST Aspartate) - Amphetamine Sulfate.
Now ALL FOUR of these amphetamines have ONE basic molecule, that denotes that it is an AMPHETAMINE and that is C9H13N, and that's where you find the real difference. Using this one basic molecule negates the H2O difference, for example if you had the MONOHYDRATE version it would be CxHxN(H20).

Sandoze's formula is C9H13N with a molecular weight of 135.21
Corepharma's formula is C9H14N with a molecular weight of 136.21
Small, but could be the difference. And when you calculate in the Monohydrate between the two the difference grows.
Sandoze's Aspartate is C9H13N(NO4) weight 213.21
Corepharma's Aspartate is C9H14N(NO4)(H2O) weight 232.23
Larger difference isn't it?
I couldn't find the formulas for Teva/Barr or Shire.

How can they do this and still be an equal generic? Because for a medication to become a generic it only has to show equal pharmacodynamics (how it affects your brain) and pharmacokinetics (how your body disposes of it) and it doesn't have to be exactly the same. And since pharmaceutical companies can still protect their formulas after a patent ends (this also would be the reason for the difference with MONOHYDRATE) other companies must come up with their own.

So, you may have thought you were getting Coca-Cola when you're in fact getting Pepsi. And like the difference between those, I think it comes down to your individual preference (and biological makeup).

Fishstix
12-20-10, 05:45 PM
Wait, so I'm a tad confused... I was given Corepharma on my last refill and I prefer Barr. I'm calling around today looking for Barr but I came on this thread to check something...

So... is Barr/Teva the same thing now or...? The lady told me they carried Teva at my local Walgreens. So am I good to go?

Nickis2legit
12-24-10, 12:10 AM
Just got my "AMPHETAMINE SALTS 20MG TABLET" Common Brands(s): Adderall MFR: BARR. They're the peach ones with the b 973 imprinted on the back, I take it these are generics because they only cost $5. This is my second month on adderall, I was on 70mg vyvanse for 5 months now I got switched to 50mg vyvanse and 20mg adderall. How hard is it to come across name brand adderall? or does it even exist anymore? I hope these work better than the corepharmas I got.

Fishstix
12-26-10, 04:43 AM
Just got my "AMPHETAMINE SALTS 20MG TABLET" Common Brands(s): Adderall MFR: BARR. They're the peach ones with the b 973 imprinted on the back, I take it these are generics because they only cost $5. This is my second month on adderall, I was on 70mg vyvanse for 5 months now I got switched to 50mg vyvanse and 20mg adderall. How hard is it to come across name brand adderall? or does it even exist anymore? I hope these work better than the corepharmas I got.

AHH! So the Barr does still make the peach/orange ones? Those were the ones I loved. I will have to call around until I find someone with them. So your bottle said barr then? This thread is sounding like teva/barr are the same now..? Arrgh. :(

'cause one place I called said they had teva and I wasnt sure if they'd be the same ones..

x3017
01-16-11, 08:36 PM
Any recommendations for pharmacies stocking Sandoz? Maybe prices for uninsured?

generations
02-05-11, 03:38 PM
AHH! So the Barr does still make the peach/orange ones? Those were the ones I loved. I will have to call around until I find someone with them. So your bottle said barr then? This thread is sounding like teva/barr are the same now..? Arrgh. :(

'cause one place I called said they had teva and I wasnt sure if they'd be the same ones..

teva is a isreali based corporation that bough out barr about 3 to 4 years ago, since then they have been making there own "enhancements" to barr adderall, which in my opinion sucks balls.... barr are the most common ones it shouldnt be hard to find them.

@ x301

believe me i called 45 different pharmacies and 1 in my are carried sandoz with them, im in love with sandoz i believe they make the best ones,

give me ur area zipcode ill try to look for the pharmacies in ur area that carries them. it wont be in the chain pharmacy stores as they are being monopolized by barr/teva

:)

Oasis77
02-26-11, 02:04 AM
Thank you for this post!

It's only been 4 months. My doc Rx'd me Adderall 10mg XR in am and Addderall 10 mg IR early pm.

Of course my health insurance will pay for the generics first...

So far I am noticing a HUGE difference!

I end up getting the generic for Adderall XR 10 mg which says "Amphetamine Salts" (cannot tell who makes this) and it is not anywhere near as effective as my IR...

CVS gives me generic Amphetamine Salts made by Barr in place of my Adderall 10 mg IR...I feel the most clear, calm and focused on this one. I even feel it is more effective than my XR and seems to last the same amount of time as crazy as that sounds...?!

I meet with my doc in a few weeks..I am tempted to just ask her to write me a script for Adderall IR's 2 or 3 times a day...

I am just suprised b/c I thought the XR was supposed to last longer..I'm wondering if it b/c its a generic?...

Saxman7
04-01-11, 12:58 PM
Just got my "AMPHETAMINE SALTS 20MG TABLET" Common Brands(s): Adderall MFR: BARR. They're the peach ones with the b 973 imprinted on the back, I take it these are generics because they only cost $5. This is my second month on adderall, I was on 70mg vyvanse for 5 months now I got switched to 50mg vyvanse and 20mg adderall. How hard is it to come across name brand adderall? or does it even exist anymore? I hope these work better than the corepharmas I got.

Where did you find these for only $5? I've never seen any store charging near that price...

Saxman7
04-01-11, 01:03 PM
Any recommendations for pharmacies stocking Sandoz? Maybe prices for uninsured?

If you are paying too much, go to:
http://www.pathtobettercare.com/Pages/GetCard.aspx

You can sign up & obtain a Rx Drug discount card, and it's free.
You get some pretty substantial discounts, I can buy my meds at even less than at my own Kaiser pharmacy. They have an on-line drug cost calculator & which local pharmacies will honor the card.
I just noticed on their site, that the card is now good for discounts in lab & image testing, so I'll have to check that out, too..

CallieT
04-15-11, 09:06 PM
Hey Generations,
I am with you on the EON/Sandoz brand. The blue Teva crap (10 mg IR) gave me nothing but a headache. Then when the doc increased my IR dose to 20MG I went to COSTCO, and they gave me BARR. Nice buzz but compared to Brand name, especially with the XR these are useless.

I live in the BOSTON, MA area, went as far as calling the manufacturer then the distributor reps, but they wouldn't tell me which pharmacy carried Sandoz/EON.

Since there has been a backorder on 30 mg XR generic here, I went to WALGREENS which carries the GLOBAL brand, what a difference! I am focused and active for hours, the way a Brand Name would work.

Any help would be much appreciated with the Sandoz carriers.
thanks!


PS: I just got Corepharm 20mg IR and I usually get BARR, which is better? from this post seems CP is crap, but that was last year....anything changed?
Callie

pianoraindream
04-17-11, 01:38 PM
Does anyone here taken Adderall IR as a booster in the afternoon in conjunction with an XR add med such as vyvanse?

I am on Vyvanse 40 mg and think I need a booster for the afternoon... When they add boosters in the afternoon, is it safe to add an Adderall IR booster on top of Vyvanse?

I am going to my Dr. tomorrow and need some info.

joeblack949
04-21-11, 10:54 PM
Heres a better picture of Eon/Sandoz 30mg IR for your page, I noticed your picture was weird and think it has to do with the reflective film on the tabs.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/320/eon30closeup.png
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/320/eon30closeup.png

Eon = the best
CorePharma = Used to be a close second, now about as effective as a punch in the face.
Barr = the Name Says it all, I wish someone would Barr these from being given to people, theres no telling the damage its caused add sufferers everywhere that don't know the difference in generics

Also I was able to pick up #90 Sandoz/Eon 30mg Tabs at CVS, although it was only because of luck, or an angel smiling down on a frustrated CorePharma Sufferer.

Proof

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7955/eonadderallweb.png
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7955/eonadderallweb.png
Never hurts to call a major chain as they may have a stockpile somewhere :D

Prices without Insurance also, I've found with IR MG hs nothing to do with price its the qty 99% of the time

#90 30mg Barr (pretty universal) $35
#90 30mg CorePharma at Walgreens with W Card $58
#90 Sandoz at CVS $68 (was quoted $126 over the phone though)

And to those who get headaches from adderall take magnesium supplements, theres a ton of literature about this on google already so I wont rehash it, do your research. It also lowers youre tolerance.

Joe

joeblack949
04-21-11, 11:26 PM
So I am new here, and recently diagnosed ADHD-PI. I had an unsettling experience similar to what I have read here which I wanted to share; I believe this would be the correct thread. So, after diagnosis my doctor issued me a script for 10 mg ER mixed amphetamine salts. I dropped it off at the pharmacy during lunch and picked it up that evening after work. I'll save you from the rambling and just say that the pharmacy gave me 10 mg IR mixed amphetamine salts made by Barr (which I was not aware of at the time that they were IR, just discovered the difference). I took my first dose the next morning as directed, and it was an immediate difference. All my bills were paid in 10 minutes, I created a budget for the month, all the piles disappeared and I felt so tranquil, my mind was at peace. It also totally eliminated the need for me to take Klonopin for SAD. The doc warned it might exacerbate my anxiety, but it had exactly the opposite effect! Problem is, it wore off after 4 hours when the doc sad it should last 10-12. I returned to the pharmacy to find out what was up, at which time I discovered the difference, and that I had taken the IR formulation. They apologized profusely and gave me the correct script for ER. Only the label said "Dextroamp-Amphet ER 10 mg" (Teva), not "Mixed Amphetamine Salts 10 mg" (Barr). I assumed it was the same and went home. Next day, I take the ER dose, and I felt absolutely nothing. Maybe even worse. Called the doc and described it, he said take two ER's, they should equal a 10 mg IR. Did that, now I feel motivated but my mind wanders more than usual and I get angry sometimes (which rarely happened before). Also, my anxiety came back with a vengeance. I do not believe that IR and ER are the same medicine at all. I assumed they were, just one had a longer duration of therapeutic effects. From what I've read on here, lots of people have been experiencing similar things. Just wanted to add my $0.02 on the topic, and perhaps gain some more info or help someone out. Take care!


im add-pi as well, add-pi is relatively uncommon from what iv'e seen too. if you want my 2 cents and 6 years of experience trying everything, get the eon/sandoz irs, they're absolute perfection for add-pi in my case. hard to find but worth it, teva/barr makes me angry, the old core were awesome, the new core are less effective than a punch in the face and the punch is way cheaper! ymmv :D

caughtinabadone
04-25-11, 02:33 AM
nevermind read it backwards, you are right! :)

cerastotle
04-27-11, 08:21 AM
I discovered the pain of generics when Teva bought Barr and my good old Barr pills suddenly stopped working. I trieed Corepharma and Sandoz after that; Sandoz generic 10 mg has worked best for me. Over Christmas I was forced to fill with CorePharma due to lack of planning, right in the middle of a cross-country move. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't awesome.

I recently got refilled with, bah, Barr, but this time it actually seems to be working just fine. Actually, quite a bit better than Sandoz. Is my old Barr back? I wish that this weren't so variable. I feel like a drug addict or a meth-lab runner everytime I call around to pharmacies and say "I'm looking for a specific manufacturer of generic Adderall..."

K_Nicole
05-11-11, 12:04 AM
I discovered the pain of generics when Teva bought Barr and my good old Barr pills suddenly stopped working. I trieed Corepharma and Sandoz after that; Sandoz generic 10 mg has worked best for me. Over Christmas I was forced to fill with CorePharma due to lack of planning, right in the middle of a cross-country move. It wasn't terrible, but it wasn't awesome.

I recently got refilled with, bah, Barr, but this time it actually seems to be working just fine. Actually, quite a bit better than Sandoz. Is my old Barr back? I wish that this weren't so variable. I feel like a drug addict or a meth-lab runner everytime I call around to pharmacies and say "I'm looking for a specific manufacturer of generic Adderall..."

I used to take Barr and love it, then the same thing...it got weak and not so good. I took a break from adderall for a few months and when i came back to it I got Sandoz. I thought it worked good (except looking back I was *****y and secluded myself from the world), but then I had to get Barr because I live in a college town where adderall is always sold out so I took what I could get. AT FIRST, I thought it was still weak and I wanted my money back...then I noticed after a few weeks I had started working out again, cleaning my apartment without thinking about it, ect...regardless, I went back to Sandoz when it came back in stock. That was last month and looking back, this past month I stopped working out, stopped focusing, my apartment is a mess, and I grinded my teeth. Needless to say, I got a script for Barr today and am going back to it & I look forward to getting my motivation back. I think the old Barr might be back!

For me, as of currently:
Barr= motivated, not shaky, focused, generally happier, socail
Sandoz= unmotivated, tired, irritable, seclude myself away from people, feel cracked out

K_Nicole
05-11-11, 12:05 AM
and I agree, I hate calling around to Pharmacies asking for certain brands...haha, it makes me feel like a druggie.

Kaimei
05-11-11, 12:28 AM
and I agree, I hate calling around to Pharmacies asking for certain brands...haha, it makes me feel like a druggie.

I've spent the last two days calling around just to see if anyone HAD any!

I've been taking the CorePharma for the last two months, anywhere from 10 - 20 mgs at a time. Today, I got Barr since I had to go to a different pharmacy.

I started off taking just one 10 mg pill, because I wanted to see how they differed from the CorePharma - holy cr*p. One 10 mg pill put me out like a light for almost 4 hours. I've been short of sleep the last two nights, and the CorePharma can make me a little sleepy sometimes, so I'm hoping that the lack of sleep accounts for part of it.

I'm an insomniac, and I don't think I've ever taken a sleeping pill that put me out that fast! I really, really hope it was just the previous lack of sleep...

Anthony121
05-12-11, 05:48 PM
Before I started Adderall, I had a pretty good diet.. No soda, Just water. Would just eat salads and grilled chicken along with other healthy stuff.. Along with vitamins and minerals..

Now, That I have been on Adderall. I feel like I've exchanged my brain for a new one.

Last Monday I've started exercising since I have a lot of free time now. I've been to do 5 miles a day. Not, straight through.. I've been taking walking breaks in the middle. But, I made SURE that I have COMPLETED 5 miles of just jogging when i'm done..

Exercising a long with adderall just makes me feel SOOO much better.. when I used to exercise when I wasn't taking adderall i didn't feel this good as I do now..

Now for sleep. I started Exercising because I been reading that it will you sleep better and have better REM sleep.. So I stopped taking ambien which I've been taking 2 weeks straight.. would taking Ambien 10 mg 2 weeks straight than not taking it at all effect you're sleeping a lot?

Since not taking Ambien any more because I'm trying to take less prescribed pills as possible., I've been taking Sleep Optimizer which includes melatonin, Pharmagaba, L- trypthophan, hops flower, valerian root and lemon balm..

anyone ever use this? I've been using it but It just gets me drowsy. but, I think that's because I just stopped taking Ambien out of nowhere. Since you get rebound insomnia when you stop taking it..

tambourine-man
05-19-11, 02:56 PM
Does anyone here taken Adderall IR as a booster in the afternoon in conjunction with an XR add med such as vyvanse?

I am on Vyvanse 40 mg and think I need a booster for the afternoon... When they add boosters in the afternoon, is it safe to add an Adderall IR booster on top of Vyvanse?

I am going to my Dr. tomorrow and need some info.

I too am on 40mg of Vyvanse, however, my pdoc also prescribes me 45 10mg Adderall IR. I take 5mg in the morning with the Vyvanse and 10mg at around 3:00. Keeps the effect consistent, like an Adderall XR that actually works all day.

tambourine-man
05-19-11, 03:05 PM
Also, I wonder how many people are voting for Barr Simply because it is the only one they've tried. Barr 15 and 10mg tabs are the only ones I've tried thus far and I feel they work fairly well, though sometimes they seem far stronger than usual and sometimes they feel a tad weak. However, they never don't work.
Because I seem to be getting good results with the Barr, I haven't bothered trying Sandoz (will steer clear of Corepharma). Am I really missing out? I like the motivational kick and mental clarity of Barr pills and figured this was just an inherent property of Adderall. I keep hearing the Sandoz is smoother but does "smoother" mean less kick? I take Vyvanse so I already have smooth, Barr Adderall gives me a "get up and go, you can do it man!" effect that helps me throughout the day.
I've heard Sandoz almost feels closer to plain Dexedrine, but I really feel it is the l-amp in Adderall that gives me that extra something.
So is a switch worth a try? I don't want to lose a month on a med that isn't even the same.

VSEPR1
05-22-11, 09:16 PM
I had been taking what I now know to be the Teva "new-brand" Adderall IR for about one and a half years. I decided to try to save some money, and this time asked for the generic (Walgreens). Based on the information I found in this thread, I identified the generic as the CorePharma 30mg Tablets.

As soon as I put the pill in my mouth, I could tell that it had a different taste than I was used to. I guess the best way to describe it would be bitter, whereas the other Teva brand Adderall tastes somewhat sweet.

The Teva brand also seems to "work" faster, i.e. it either dissolves more quickly or can be absorbed into the blood stream more readily... or maybe both, who knows. My chemistry background leads me to believe that the inactive ingredients in the pill would be the biggest contributing factors to the overall solubility and absorption time of the drug. The faster it breaks up, the faster it can be absorbed into the GI tract. From what I understand, the pH of the stomach and urine can also affect absorption and re-absorption rates, respectively. Low pH, i.e. acidic conditions, in both the stomach and kidneys(urine) tend to decrease the absorption/re-absorption of the drug. Higher ph, i.e. more basic or alkaline conditions, tend to improve the absorption/re-absorption of the drug. That means that if the formulation had antacid/basic properties it could improve the absorption of the drug. On the other hand, this also means that if it made the stomach and urine is more acidic that it would decrease the absorption of the drug into the bloodstream. Who knows, maybe it would be worthwhile to pop a tums before you take the pill.

At any rate, I haven't been able to find a full list of inactive ingredients in the Teva brand drug, and for all I know the list of ingredients in the CorePharma pill may have changed as well.

I personally prefer the Teva pill, but that might just be due to familiarity. It was very expensive though, for a bottle of 60 it could cost as much as $350.

If I find anything else about it I'll be sure to post it here.

beannieberk
06-04-11, 07:07 PM
I am so glad for this site. I have adult ADD and I have been taking 1/2 of a generic cor130 every two hours daily for a couple of months. Then my pharmacy switched to generic b971. At first I thought it worked better, but pretty soon just 1/2 of a 5-b971 started making me feel REALLY bad. My heart felt like it would skip a beat, I felt dizzy, and faint, like I had really low blood sugar. I had no clue what was going on. I cut my intake back so much I was only taking 1/2 of a b971 in the morning but by noon I felt terrible. I guess I must be a little slow, as I did not think I could have that kind of reaction from just 1/2 of a little pill. I had some cor130 left, so I tried that and found I had no problem with it. My doctor just changed my meds now to Retalin, but after reading all this information, I am not sure it it is the brand that has caused my problems. I will try out the Retlin and see if I have any problems, but I guess now I am curious...do they still make cor130. I mean, if that works, maybe I should just stick with that? I am extremely sensative to medications. Does anyone see a difference between Adderall and Retalin? Is there anything I need to watch for?
Thank you! :)

princevalium
06-05-11, 05:41 AM
This is incredibly frustrating. Aren't generics supposed to be the same as brand name?
I am taking the Barr 20mg Tablet twice a day. How am I supposed to know if it's better or worse than other brands without trying them all?

tambourine-man
06-06-11, 03:08 PM
This is incredibly frustrating. Aren't generics supposed to be the same as brand name?
I am taking the Barr 20mg Tablet twice a day. How am I supposed to know if it's better or worse than other brands without trying them all?


TRY NOT TO WORRY ABOUT IT! I can not emphasize this enough. The only time my meds don't work is when I worry if they are working. Don't rely on your own judgement. We are ADHD. Many of us are overanalytical and anxious to begin with. Periodically ask for observations from those close to you.

I definately do not think all generics are the same, but I do think believing they are different will certainly make them different. Whatever med, dose generic you are on, try and ignore the huge variety in opinions here. Later on you can afford to be a little more analytical, but right now don't think about it to much. Try and get the best out of what you have to work with.

You can't expect success if you don't give things a proper chance.

HappyHarvickBUD
06-07-11, 02:44 PM
Find a pharmacy that has the sandoz brand. I was on BARR 20mg twice a day, and i couldnt tell any difference in my really. The last time i my med filled, I had them give me sandoz brand. Totally different drug. Nice smooth up, nice roll down. And all the tablet work equally

Stargazer1537
06-09-11, 11:59 AM
Thankyou so much for the post with the pics! I have had ADHD since I was about 5 years old. I have been back and forth on my ADHD meds ever since due to my mom feeling "I didn't need them!" Everytime I was on the meds it was always adderall and 90% of the time I would work my way back up to 2 to 3 20mgs a day (depending on school work etc) and I would be fine! Anyway I was off of them for for about 5 years thinking I could get along just fine without meds! I failed out of college and my life literally went to hell in a handbasket to say the least. Finally I realized I needed to go back on my meds to get my life in order. My doctor started me on 10mgs which I got the Barr generics I was fine except for the fact I felt like I needed a dose increase. I went up to the 20s and I was fine as far as my mood etc, but I didn't want to be on 2 20mgs a day in fear that I would be back up to 3 20mg in no time and being older I have a phobia of getting addicted to the meds after reading drug facts etc... they were also Barr. So I started on the 15mg twice a day Barr generic and now I am getting bad headaches and I'm easily agitated. I can't figure it out. First of all, all previous times I have been on adderall it has always been the Barr generic 20mgs(they looked exactly the same as in the picture) and I have never gotten agitated or had the horrible headaches I was on the 10mgs n never had the problems. So why with these 15s am I having these problems! I at first wanted to think it's all in my head cuz they look different then the 10s n the 20s. (I'm just being paranoid! Was the thought) After a few months it's still not changing. And in the middle of all this I moved to a different state and have a new dr so I'm not as comfortable with my new dr as I was with my previous doctor. They say these meds are the same and you would think with the same manufacturer there would be the same consistency of the filler.. Anyone else have these problems? I've been looking all over the Internet for an answer and they say agitation = too high a dose, but if that is so why am I fine on 2 20mgs a day.. It's not making sense to me at all!!! :confused:

joeblack949
07-01-11, 01:25 PM
I posted earlier anyone getting headaches on this medication its probably due to a magnesium defeciency. get some chelated magnesium and start taking it every day whenever you take any amphetamine based prescription. it will do wonders for managing your tolerance too.

I've been on this med for at least 5-6 years so I know it pretty well, your agitation is much like how i feel if i were to take just enough to barely feel it but not enough for it to work. That's called threshold. It's a ****ty place to be but better than how you feel when you wake up before you take it.

Try taking a break for 3-4 days and to reduce your tolerance. If you're unable to take 3-4 days off due to **** that needs to get done, work, school, whatever...then you may need to ask for a dosage increase. I'm sure this isn't the best nor recommended way of getting through those 4 days, cuz those days can be really ****ty I sleep through them honestly with the help of lots of valium. I load up on my valium, I really don't even have anxiety problems anymore I just use the valium to goto sleep when I need to and to get me through those breaks i have to take from adderall to help tolerance. Sleeping through them is much more tolerable imo than waking up getting ready and feeling no interest in anything whatsoever. I'd rather be full on functional or asleep. the in-between is hell.

I take 90-120mg a day of the sandoz(the only one that does it for me) and it just barely works for me. This is only because of my extreme case and the 5-6 years of taking medication. tolerance will definately be an issue you'll deal with many times in your adderall experience. Everyone deals with it differently it depends on your situation and will be different for everyone both short and longterm, where you want to be with your life, etc.

Thankyou so much for the post with the pics! I have had ADHD since I was about 5 years old. I have been back and forth on my ADHD meds ever since due to my mom feeling "I didn't need them!" Everytime I was on the meds it was always adderall and 90% of the time I would work my way back up to 2 to 3 20mgs a day (depending on school work etc) and I would be fine! Anyway I was off of them for for about 5 years thinking I could get along just fine without meds! I failed out of college and my life literally went to hell in a handbasket to say the least. Finally I realized I needed to go back on my meds to get my life in order. My doctor started me on 10mgs which I got the Barr generics I was fine except for the fact I felt like I needed a dose increase. I went up to the 20s and I was fine as far as my mood etc, but I didn't want to be on 2 20mgs a day in fear that I would be back up to 3 20mg in no time and being older I have a phobia of getting addicted to the meds after reading drug facts etc... they were also Barr. So I started on the 15mg twice a day Barr generic and now I am getting bad headaches and I'm easily agitated. I can't figure it out. First of all, all previous times I have been on adderall it has always been the Barr generic 20mgs(they looked exactly the same as in the picture) and I have never gotten agitated or had the horrible headaches I was on the 10mgs n never had the problems. So why with these 15s am I having these problems! I at first wanted to think it's all in my head cuz they look different then the 10s n the 20s. (I'm just being paranoid! Was the thought) After a few months it's still not changing. And in the middle of all this I moved to a different state and have a new dr so I'm not as comfortable with my new dr as I was with my previous doctor. They say these meds are the same and you would think with the same manufacturer there would be the same consistency of the filler.. Anyone else have these problems? I've been looking all over the Internet for an answer and they say agitation = too high a dose, but if that is so why am I fine on 2 20mgs a day.. It's not making sense to me at all!!! :confused:

joeblack949
07-01-11, 01:28 PM
I more specifically want to point out I failed to mention its best not to take the magnesium with your medication, but before or after. I didn't mean to take it at the same time when I said take with, i just meant same time in general as in whether you're taking the medication or not. I kind of do a little of both and take some when i wake up and after the last one i take of the day. If I don't I get terrible jaw and shoulder pain.

I posted earlier anyone getting headaches on this medication its probably due to a magnesium defeciency. get some chelated magnesium and start taking it every day whenever you take any amphetamine based prescription. it will do wonders for managing your tolerance too.

I've been on this med for at least 5-6 years so I know it pretty well, your agitation is much like how i feel if i were to take just enough to barely feel it but not enough for it to work. That's called threshold. It's a ****ty place to be but better than how you feel when you wake up before you take it.

Try taking a break for 3-4 days and to reduce your tolerance. If you're unable to take 3-4 days off then you may need to ask for a dosage increase.

I take 90-120mg a day of the sandoz(the only one that does it for me) and it just barely works for me. This is only because of my extreme case and the 5-6 years of taking medication. tolerance will definately be an issue you'll deal with many times in your adderall experience. Everyone deals with it differently it depends on your situation and will be different for everyone both short and longterm, where you want to be with your life, etc.

joeblack949
07-01-11, 01:51 PM
I find it quite interesting to note that 2 weeks ago when I went to refill they only had 60 of my 90 at my CVS. Knowing nowhere else in town was going to have Sandoz/EON, I sacrificed the 30 to have it re prescribed on its own pad today as I'm noting the bottle getting close to empty.

I thought where the hell am I going to find it now. I figured my success at the local CVS was an isolated case where they just happened to have backstock sitting on the shelves and chocked it up to luck. I decided to call the CVS hoping they'd have a suggested place cuz where I live the mega corporation pharmacies have eliminated the independents and I was short on ideas.

They oddly enough have it in stock again. I thought everyone would like that. PROOF THAT CVS CAN ORDER EON/Sandoz. I think it is due to knowing there was no alternatives to the mega corp pharmas in the area and enough complaints about the barr\teva as they kind of ackowledged in their own way I wasn't the only one who asked for that at all previously. Whatever it was was enough that the pharmacist cared enough to do something about it here and because of that it was done. Whatever they end up telling you will most likely be a lie. Make no mistake pharmacies mostly operate at the convenience of whatever the pharmacist wants. So don't take it as being the final word or the truth at all in every case.

The pharmacist actually went out of his way to re-order EON/Sandoz for me and received stock, at a CVS no less! This leads me to believe that really each CVS is going to be run the way the pharmacist wants and thats that, nothing you can do about it but do know they can damn well order that for you they just dont.

it ticks me off and makes me smile at the same time. I don't know how else to react lol



Heres a better picture of Eon/Sandoz 30mg IR for your page, I noticed your picture was weird and think it has to do with the reflective film on the tabs.

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/320/eon30closeup.png
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/320/eon30closeup.png

Eon = the best
CorePharma = Used to be a close second, now about as effective as a punch in the face.
Barr = the Name Says it all, I wish someone would Barr these from being given to people, theres no telling the damage its caused add sufferers everywhere that don't know the difference in generics

Also I was able to pick up #90 Sandoz/Eon 30mg Tabs at CVS, although it was only because of luck, or an angel smiling down on a frustrated CorePharma Sufferer.

Proof

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7955/eonadderallweb.png
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7955/eonadderallweb.png
Never hurts to call a major chain as they may have a stockpile somewhere :D

Prices without Insurance also, I've found with IR MG hs nothing to do with price its the qty 99% of the time

#90 30mg Barr (pretty universal) $35
#90 30mg CorePharma at Walgreens with W Card $58
#90 Sandoz at CVS $68 (was quoted $126 over the phone though)

And to those who get headaches from adderall take magnesium supplements, theres a ton of literature about this on google already so I wont rehash it, do your research. It also lowers youre tolerance.

Joe

hyungnim
07-02-11, 01:05 AM
so long! when you tell the doctor(s) don't they find you the right generic brand or brand that brings back the therapeutic focus? or is that the problem..the makers have just stopped making it altogether.. scary to me because I am just starting to find the one I want to take...the one to get filled...

hyungnim
07-02-11, 01:22 AM
maybe you can help me with what happened to me. i took 10mg corepharma and i could feel it..got lots of work done...then i got 20mg corepharma and i could not feel them at all..even had a terrible falling out with the doctor over it because he wouldn't let me fill another brand for the rest of the month...what happened???? it was a huge mess ;....

sleepy
07-20-11, 04:53 AM
maybe some of you who feel the barrs differ monthly haven't noticed there are barr pills by barr and barr pills by teva. if you dont look at the bottle you may just assume its barr but its teva. as far as i know at this time only barr manufactures 15mg. so ive been sticking to that. the teva barr pills give me ridiculous dry mouth

jnay765
07-20-11, 08:36 PM
I guess I should have read this before posting a new thread about my generic pills not working the same...! This discussion makes me feel like I'm not going crazy after all.

I was on Adderall IR for a little over 2 years, and it worked great. I don't know what brand it was because it never occurred to me back then to check it. I was taking 40-50mg a day, and they were oval pills (orange 20, blue 10). When I lost my job and my insurance, I stopped taking the meds, and stayed off them for a little over a year. As of the past 2 months, I'm back on again, and this time I'm feel HORRIBLE!!! First thing I noticed was the pills look different - the 20mg are round instead of oval. I didn't really think too much about it until I started taking them, and felt just awful. (I'm taking the Barr generic IR) I get bad headaches, my vision is blurry, always sick to my stomach, I'm developing OCD habits and ticks, my heart always hurts and/or feels like it's skipping a beat...I just feel 'cracked out'. I've also noticed that about an hour after taking my first dose, I already start feeling it wear off. I've continued taking them thinking eventually it would stabilize, but it's just not.

cpg1106
07-20-11, 09:59 PM
I guess I should have read this before posting a new thread about my generic pills not working the same...! This discussion makes me feel like I'm not going crazy after all.

I was on Adderall IR for a little over 2 years, and it worked great. I don't know what brand it was because it never occurred to me back then to check it. I was taking 40-50mg a day, and they were oval pills (orange 20, blue 10). When I lost my job and my insurance, I stopped taking the meds, and stayed off them for a little over a year. As of the past 2 months, I'm back on again, and this time I'm feel HORRIBLE!!! First thing I noticed was the pills look different - the 20mg are round instead of oval. I didn't really think too much about it until I started taking them, and felt just awful. (I'm taking the Barr generic IR) I get bad headaches, my vision is blurry, always sick to my stomach, I'm developing OCD habits and ticks, my heart always hurts and/or feels like it's skipping a beat...I just feel 'cracked out'. I've also noticed that about an hour after taking my first dose, I already start feeling it wear off. I've continued taking them thinking eventually it would stabilize, but it's just not.

I got diagnosed with ADHD a few weeks ago and was prescribed 20 mg Adderall to be taken in the morning. It is the Barr brand as well. I am having the exact same problems as you. Most of the times when I take it, I feel nothing. Sometimes I feel it kick in and its great, but it lasts me less than an hour. In the afternoon, I develop horrible headaches that just wont go away and my heart feels as if it will beat out of my chest. I feel cracked out too, like you said. I cant describe it, but I feel like this Barr makes me a different person. I've even had people tell me how I seem like a zombie now. I have an appointment in the morning, so I'm hoping the doctor will give me a new Rx. I have lurked on this site for a few weeks, and after reading others similar problems, I really believe that Barr is a bad brand. Hopefully tomorrow, I can try the Sandoz brand and my body will react alot better to it.

soccerboy
08-04-11, 08:36 PM
I got diagnosed with ADHD a few weeks ago and was prescribed 20 mg Adderall to be taken in the morning. It is the Barr brand as well. I am having the exact same problems as you. Most of the times when I take it, I feel nothing. Sometimes I feel it kick in and its great, but it lasts me less than an hour. In the afternoon, I develop horrible headaches that just wont go away and my heart feels as if it will beat out of my chest. I feel cracked out too, like you said. I cant describe it, but I feel like this Barr makes me a different person. I've even had people tell me how I seem like a zombie now. I have an appointment in the morning, so I'm hoping the doctor will give me a new Rx. I have lurked on this site for a few weeks, and after reading others similar problems, I really believe that Barr is a bad brand. Hopefully tomorrow, I can try the Sandoz brand and my body will react alot better to it.

i take the blue 10 mg barrs, and they are definitely cracked out! They are good for waking my *** up but I want to clean and organize on them. Recently they started making my heart hurt... kind of like when I knew I drank way too much caffeine. My mom said that I look ****ed and irritated a lot. I do not like the feeling of being on them, but I also am really impressed at the steps and overall quality of life. But this anxiety/chest pains are so intense that I have to stop taking barr. Only 9 more days until i can get a new fill and will be looking around for sandoz.

amiadhd
08-20-11, 09:03 AM
Heres one Pembliss, u mite already have since this post is a yr old and I mite have overlooked. Its a orange gel cap with amph salts imprint 20mg bottle only states mfg: Glo. Thanks for ur time entering the data and research uve done a thorough and articulatejob.

DARPA123
09-10-11, 06:33 AM
I believe Barr to be mediocre at best - Barr is owned by an Israeli company (Teva) and you can bet they are looking to capitalize on quick profits and could care less about customers. Barr has been cited by the FDA regarding manufacturing irregularities in the past and in fact because they were ignored the FBI/DEA under orders from the FDA raided their manufacturing facility in the past. Confirmed past reports included dosage irregularities both above and under the pills listed strength.

Barr, like many of you reported, has made me feel like a crack head where you get a fast burst and the next thing all you are looking to do is lay down. Yet, that said, on occasion I would get a random "good" pill.

The EON 20 mgs (IR) seem to have a consistent and balanced - true Adderall - feel. I seek EON out when I can - however these days I am lucky to get most of my script filled since so many pharmacies sell out of their Adderall stock.

I am off to do a morning run - will try to list my findings in more detail going forward.

Awesome thread - thanks to those that have contributed - it sure is nice to know that I was not going crazy after all!

mzstar
11-22-11, 05:03 PM
1st post here! Though been reading for a while... Since I started on Adderall back in... hmm... March-ish. Always taken generic IR. Started with 5mg pills cut in half, and over a few months got to my current dose of 30mg 3x/day (though sometimes I take less at night and/or a bump more in the morning, since my circadian rhythm is totally wonky/backwards)... 1st I got was core, which helped at first but felt dirty and tense compared to when I tried Barr (that my friend had when I was out and forgot my meds at home.) Found that Wallgreens (in Southern Cali) all carried Core and that Rite Aid carried Barr, so moved to them for prescription fills... even though Wallgreens was cheaper... (how they'd be now with the price hike, I can't say)... THOUGH...
last month I went to refill and they were out. VERY out. all over LA!! & in fact, the month before I had to call about 10 Rite Aids till I found one with my script in stock and proceeded to drive 60miles for it! *gasp* ...

Well, with about 3 days left, I *just* called a Costco* in Orange County to see if they have the 90x 30mg IR that I need filling. Yes, they do. *happy dance* Brand: Sandoz, which I have never tried. But seems that people here that dislike Core, favor Sandoz or Barr. Though Barr vs Sandoz is... well... bah. doeasn't matter. Everyone's different at different times, too. And, the Barr affectivity / formula seems kinda inconsistent, so hopefully Sandoz will do me good. Very curious & kinda nervous if it's bunk or bad, but if I hate it, I'm sure my Drs will write me a new script. (Though I don't have insurance so $ doing that'll suck)
but... overall, I'm kinda optimistic :)

*PS: I've been told to go to Costco for months, since a friend who gets Barr at a good price always goes there, but they're always so inconvenient for me to get to. && I tried going to fill my script 3 different times (!), & failed for different reasons each time, so kinda gave up... point: Tomorrow I am going to get Sandoz, for the 1st time, from a Costco in the OC. I'll gladly report my experience/cost afterwards if anyone's interested. (can't be worse than anything else though, I think to myself, as I ramble on, and on, realizing it's a: time for my next IR dose, and b: I don't think the Barr's working all that well anymore . . . *fingers crossed for Sandoz!!

LittleD1981
11-23-11, 10:41 PM
Thanks, pembliss! I'm sure this thread will be very helpful for many people.

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Here is a picture of Teva "Brand Name" Adderall IR 30mg:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5434/tevaadderall30.jpg

(Sorry for the poor image quality!)

I will try to find an official ingredient list. But, I do know for a fact it has Saccharin in it (blech). This is what gives it that sickly sweet taste and lingering aftertaste.

I find this especially perplexing, since the Feingold diet and other dietary sources for treatment of AD(H)D specify to avoid Saccharin completely. Yet, Teva/Barr still chose to include it in the formulation for no apparent reason.

In response to this post (I don't know if I'm repeating information or not, as there are far too many posts to read through them all), I just wanted to state my experience with this Teva name brand Adderall, as I just filled a prescription for it last week. It does look as pictured; however, it does not have a sweet taste. The majority of the time I fill my Adderall, I get a generic brand (can't remember who) and it's shaped like an oval and that one has a sugary taste to it. I'm guessing so it's easier for kids to take. Just wanted to clear that up.

namaste11
12-13-11, 12:26 PM
does IR really expire when it says it does on my prescription bottle? the pharmacy doesn't have any more and I found a bottle with a weeks supply of "just in case" is it worth taking it?

daedelvis
12-15-11, 06:37 PM
People definitely respond differently, but ALL GENERICS ARE NOT EQUAL.

I had consistently excellent results on Adderall IR until earlier this year Walgreens switched to CorePharma without telling me and I had a severe reaction immediately.

It took me weeks to figure out what was happening and it turns out that the INACTIVE ingredients are responsible for many of the side effects. The fillers, dyes and artificial sweeteners can cause severe allergic reactions and in my case, my liver function was compromised.

Inactive Ingredients:
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
STARCH, CORN
D&C RED NO. 27

None of these things are good for you, but many people are aware of allergies to lactose and I know I have a reaction to any GMO corn product.

I know there is a shortage in many places, but read the boards here. The Walgreen/CorePharma combo may do more harm than good. Buyer beware.

To your health!

daedelvis
12-15-11, 06:40 PM
expiration dates are for legal reasons. Adderall specifically is a combination of salts which does not denature over time. I can't speak for other meds.

daedelvis
12-15-11, 06:52 PM
How do you like the Sandoz? I'm in SoCal and only get a good response to Sandoz/Eon.

I'll try the Costco in OC. Thanks!

vmarie83
12-16-11, 02:53 PM
fyi - i couldn't find any adderrall generic (10mg) in central/north OC. when i finally got it filled, it was barr. :( i had good luck on sandoz/eon, we'll see about barr.

pisces228
12-16-11, 06:07 PM
Does anybody know where to get Sandoz generic Adderall? I'm allergic to corn and the saccharine taste makes me nauseous, which are ingredients in the Barr generic.
I live in Santa Monica, but will order it from anywhere.
Thanks!

daedelvis
12-17-11, 03:38 PM
Check the Adderall IR & XR shortages for 2010 through 2011 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80047) thread for who's got what where...

I posted there that I found Eon/Sandoz 30mg generic at Costco in OC (Tustin and Fountain Valley)

n8dogg1492
01-06-12, 04:04 PM
Thanks to this thread, it has come to my attention that I have never taken the name brand adderall, contrary to what I was told by my pharmacist o.O

I have to say, thanks so much for the photos along with the descriptions. I've heard all these manufacturer names before, but when I saw the photo of the Barr 10mg, I realized that I was given that brand and told it was "name brand". Perhaps it's considered name brand because of the shared parent company between Barr and Teva?

So far I've taken Barr (apparently) and Sandoz, both 10mg IR @ 3-6 pills/day. I prefer Barr of those two, because I get more of an "energetic" kick from it, rather than Sandoz which just seems to make me feel more awake and attentive without being particularly energetic/hyper.

BR549
01-06-12, 04:13 PM
Thanks to this thread, it has come to my attention that I have never taken the name brand adderall, contrary to what I was told by my pharmacist o.O

I have to say, thanks so much for the photos along with the descriptions. I've heard all these manufacturer names before, but when I saw the photo of the Barr 10mg, I realized that I was given that brand and told it was "name brand". Perhaps it's considered name brand because of the shared parent company between Barr and Teva?

So far I've taken Barr (apparently) and Sandoz, both 10mg IR @ 3-6 pills/day. I prefer Barr of those two, because I get more of an "energetic" kick from it, rather than Sandoz which just seems to make me feel more awake and attentive without being particularly energetic/hyper.

Your insurance company (and pharmacists-usually) will consider it brand name, since the rights to Adderall IR were sold to Duramed,--who was sold to Barr-- who was sold to Teva. They are supposed to have and make the original formulation for IR, but it's my understanding that Teva 'improved' it and then changed back to the original formulation, so who knows if it's exactly the same as it originally was.

Sorry, off topic there. :o I've taken Corepharma and Barr. I can't really tell a whole lot of difference between the two.

n8dogg1492
01-06-12, 05:03 PM
Your insurance company (and pharmacists-usually) will consider it brand name, since the rights to Adderall IR were sold to Duramed,--who was sold to Barr-- who was sold to Teva. They are supposed to have and make the original formulation for IR, but it's my understanding that Teva 'improved' it and then changed back to the original formulation, so who knows if it's exactly the same as it originally was.

Sorry, off topic there. :o I've taken Corepharma and Barr. I can't really tell a whole lot of difference between the two.

Yeah, I figured it was something like that. I'll keep that in mind about Corepharma, too, thanks a bunch :)

spillcanvasgirl
01-17-12, 06:37 PM
First post here.. Recently, my pharmacy gave me the Sandoz brand of adderall and it does not work at all for me. It acts like I have drank too much coffee. I get jittery, and can't sleep, and absolutely CANNOT eat. I was on Barr before, and my experience with that was that it helped me wake up, because I have a severe case of insomnia that 5% of people have, and there isn't really a medication to treat it. I also have ADHD, and PTSD, and depression. I am on Prozac and Adderall.. that's it. The Sandoz brand does not help me stay focused, not one bit. Is such a drastic difference normal? Even doubling the dosage, it just increases the effects of being jittery, it does not act the same at all. The Barr brand was a lifesaver. I was able to get out of bed, and actually do something with my day. I don't want to do anything with this brand.

T2O2R2
01-20-12, 05:33 AM
For the first few years I was on Adderall I would end with a different brand almost every month. I always dreaded the refills because I would finally get the dosage right and the timing down for the new brand only to switch again. Sometimes it was because I had to change pharmacies, but most of the time the pharmacy would just get a different brand. For the last year I have been mail ordering my prescriptions in 3 month supplies (new insurance requirement) and they have been sending the 10mg Barr brand every time which I find is the most effective. However, due to the shortages they put my prescription on backorder for almost a month back in November so I had to get a 2 week script from my doc. At first I started asking around at the pharmacies if they carried my brand, but most of them said they didn't have anything. So I got stuck with the Corepharma 10mg for a couple weeks and it was rough. They didn't seem to be as strong and they took longer to take effect. I also rebounded a bit worse in the evening. I frequently have to adjust the timing of my dose based on how much I've eaten for the day (empty stomach for a second or third dose of the day make me jittery, and a full stomach can sometimes decrease the effects) but I've been on it for so long my body usually tells me when its time. But with the corepharma 10mg I could not figure out what was going on. I would take it and in less than 3 hours be passed out on my desk, and if I had eaten anything it basically didn't work. I was ending up reaching my max dose before I got in the car to leave work, and then I'm spacing out on the highway. It was not a good few weeks. I also find it interesting that they use Blue dye in the pills since my doc told me stay away from blue 1 & 2 dyes (as well as a giant list of other things which my fiance keeps on the fridge, in the car, and in about a million other places cause I always forget) since it can make my adhd worse.

dragonesse
02-12-12, 09:36 PM
Hi everyone,

So I'm new here and this thread is similar to an issue I've been having. I used to take the generic barr blue pill for 15mg twice a day (the pill was 10mg and i would break a second one for the total 15mg). But recently my doc prescribed me the 15mg adderall IR, which I've getting from my pharmacy as the peach colored, barr pills. My problem is that I love the blue pill (but need to break it) whereas i noticed the peach one for 15mg in one pill gives me sever depression, anxiety and even anger when it comes down about 3-4 hrs later.

Im in school, in a 3rd world country and have no access to adderall here nor can i meet my doctor to evaluate this. I looked up the first message here with all the adderall generics listed, and saw that both my 10mg and 15mg are manufactured by the same company and have the same ingredients, so I'm wondering how can this be??

Im really worried because i don't like my mood on the peach pill but without adderall, I will have to drop out of school. Can anyone please here shed light on this or advise maybe what i can do at this point? :( :(

Thanks so much.

FocusPocus10
02-14-12, 02:39 PM
I feel your pain man. I'm on barr 20mg adderall-- absolute nightmare. Itchy hives, crash in about an hour, I am furious. I've also had the 10's and found them better, but still not as good as sandoz 10's/20's. Why are these pharmacies switching to barr? It is literally poison.

Hi everyone,

So I'm new here and this thread is similar to an issue I've been having. I used to take the generic barr blue pill for 15mg twice a day (the pill was 10mg and i would break a second one for the total 15mg). But recently my doc prescribed me the 15mg adderall IR, which I've getting from my pharmacy as the peach colored, barr pills. My problem is that I love the blue pill (but need to break it) whereas i noticed the peach one for 15mg in one pill gives me sever depression, anxiety and even anger when it comes down about 3-4 hrs later.

Im in school, in a 3rd world country and have no access to adderall here nor can i meet my doctor to evaluate this. I looked up the first message here with all the adderall generics listed, and saw that both my 10mg and 15mg are manufactured by the same company and have the same ingredients, so I'm wondering how can this be??

Im really worried because i don't like my mood on the peach pill but without adderall, I will have to drop out of school. Can anyone please here shed light on this or advise maybe what i can do at this point? :( :(

Thanks so much.

Slybfoxx
03-30-12, 12:48 AM
People definitely respond differently, but ALL GENERICS ARE NOT EQUAL.

I had consistently excellent results on Adderall IR until earlier this year Walgreens switched to CorePharma without telling me and I had a severe reaction immediately.

It took me weeks to figure out what was happening and it turns out that the INACTIVE ingredients are responsible for many of the side effects. The fillers, dyes and artificial sweeteners can cause severe allergic reactions and in my case, my liver function was compromised.

Inactive Ingredients:
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE
MAGNESIUM STEARATE
CELLULOSE, MICROCRYSTALLINE
STARCH, CORN
D&C RED NO. 27

None of these things are good for you, but many people are aware of allergies to lactose and I know I have a reaction to any GMO corn product.

I know there is a shortage in many places, but read the boards here. The Walgreen/CorePharma combo may do more harm than good. Buyer beware.

To your health!
:goodpost:

These are really terrible, I commented a while back on this they should not be allowed to sell this garbage!

Galactica75
04-02-12, 05:18 PM
So just to recap on the inactive ingredients.

Inactive ingredients in Teva/Barr (http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/lookup.cfm?setid=cffbbb15-d776-41ae-a8a6-687f2c07bfa4) generics are:

colloidal silicon dioxide, compressible sugar,
corn starch, magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose
and saccharin sodium.

The 5, 7.5 and 10 mg also contain FD&C blue no.1 aluminum lake.
The 12.5, 15, 20 and 30 mg also contain FD&C yellow no. 6 aluminum lake.

==================================
Inactive ingredients in Core pharma (http://corepharma.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/MixedAmphetaminesMedicationGuideLB59305RevJanuary2 011111111.pdf) generics are:
lactose monohydrate, magnesium stearate,
microcrystalline cellulose and pregelatinized starch.

Colors: 5 mg and 10 mg tablets contain FD&C Blue #2 Aluminum Lake
20 mg and 30 mg tablets contain D&C Red #27 Aluminum Lake as a color additive.
-----------------------------------------

So if you're lactose intolerant you might not respond well to corepharma or Sandoz, yes that's right the sandoz generic contains "lactose monohydrate".

"In addition each tablet for oral administration contains the following inactive ingredients: lactose monohydrate, pregelatinized starch and magnesium stearate."
Source: Sandoz Medication Guide (http://164.109.69.74/resources/outserts/185040101.pdf)
.

425runner
04-02-12, 06:36 PM
I just got my Adderall IR filled at Costco, they gave me the SANDOZ kind, hope this works better then Barr which was awful!

Galactica75
04-03-12, 12:14 AM
I just got my Adderall IR filled at Costco, they gave me the SANDOZ kind, hope this works better then Barr which was awful!

Yeah I also had ridiculous side effects on the teva/barr generic that i didn't have with the other generics, although in my case i'm pretty sure it was allergic reaction to "saccharin". I may not be allergic to lactose but i'm definitely allergic to saccharin and it's derivatives.

daedelvis
04-03-12, 03:33 AM
It's been a year since I found out (the hard way) that there is a huge difference in how someone will respond to different generics.

Here's what I found:
Manufacturers can change the (supposedly) inactive ingredients without notice.

The fillers and dyes can cause severe allergic reactions and a change in formula can make the same dosage from the same manufacturer go from super effective with no side effects to causing nausea and liver compromise.

Even the molecular structure of the Amphetamine salts can vary from one manufacturer to the next.

The ratio of active/inactive ingredients can make a big difference (You get more active to inactive in a larger dosage tab)

The cost per pill of for 30mg is about the same as a 10mg. Have your MD adjust your Rx, split the tab and save 2/3 on your pharmacy bill.


My scorecard:
Sandoz 30mg IR is the most effective available for me.
Sandoz 30 mg IR works much better the the same dose of Sandoz 10mg IR.
Any Teva/Barr combo is better than nothing. I'm awake but my focus and motivation are minimal.
CorePharma poisoned me to the point where my system has not fully recovered after a year of cleanses/super nutritional support, etc.
I had the best three years of my life on Global. Unfortunately, that company is no more.


Thanks again to all the contributors and admins here.

Better living thru chemistry. If you're paying attention.

WorkAholic
04-09-12, 03:32 PM
I feel your pain man. I'm on barr 20mg adderall-- absolute nightmare. Itchy hives, crash in about an hour, I am furious. I've also had the 10's and found them better, but still not as good as sandoz 10's/20's. Why are these pharmacies switching to barr? It is literally poison.

Same exact thing with me. My rash isn't itchy but it makes me feel flushed and hot like I have a fever.

Is there a "good" manufacturer for Adderall IR?

WorkAholic
04-09-12, 04:22 PM
Found Sandoz at Kroger...looking forward to trying something that doesn't give me a rash.

scstudent
04-09-12, 04:35 PM
OMG, I was so going out of my goard. I could not for the life of me figure out why out of the blue my add meds were making me feel like I am going to die.
First as a paralegal student, let me applaud you on your steller research. If not for my education I would not have found this thread.
I have been on ADD meds 20 mg of barr brand for over 2 years. LIfe has been great. I can think, be happy and get the heck off the couch.

Then the great shortage, I switched to ritalin, nothing, then 3 weeks later I went back to the dr for another script, went to wallgreens cuz walmart was out.
Sure they asked me if I had any allergies. I did not think to say uh yeah to dairy, heck I wasn't, in my opinion gettin a script for milk & cheese.
I was given 20 mg of eon labs, containing LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE.

(Lets keep in mind I am not an abuser. I only take half a tab and then later in the day maybe another 5 mgs. I rarely do a whole 20mg.)

So I take half and then take another 5 mg. Mins later, about 2-3 hours after first dose, I am on the floor. My heart feels like it is going to explode. My sholders go numb, my left leg goes numb, and then panic sets in. I am all clamy, pale and sweaty, Lucky for me a neighbor found me outside on the ground and called 911. It was a panic attack.
A what? A PANIC ATTACK BROUGHT ON BY SEVERE ALLERGIC REACTION TO THE UNNECESSARY DAIRY INGREDENT IN MY DRUGS.
This happened last week. I have not been the same since. I was scared to take the drug but it is my last semester of college so I took it again, and again it was all gas, panic and fun on the come down.
From my additional research, if one has an allergy to
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE it takes about 2 hours to feel the horror. So just as one is about to come down of one ride, one is forced upon another, more scary ride.
If a person is severly lactose intollerant, like me, 10 mgs of eon labs adderall will make you feel like your heart is going to explode.
So I urge everyone to look at the fantastic information and photos posted here, look at the ingredients, gosh I cannot believe he boiled it down for us so well, or are you a she?
Doesn't matter, look at the pills before you leave the store, make sure they don't switch brands on you.
I don't know what I am going to do now. 3 weeks to graduation. Failed my first test yesterday.
I am Phi Theta Kappa and if one has A.D.D. than A really is for adderall.
I spent my entire life thinking I was stupid. Then I get diagnosed, then I get a crap batch at the finish line.
Why I outta, TO THE MOON, EON LABS.
uh OH NO spell check and no add meds. Sorry for the errors.
sCstudeNt

WorkAholic
04-11-12, 01:41 PM
OMG, I was so going out of my goard. I could not for the life of me figure out why out of the blue my add meds were making me feel like I am going to die.
First as a paralegal student, let me applaud you on your steller research. If not for my education I would not have found this thread.
I have been on ADD meds 20 mg of barr brand for over 2 years. LIfe has been great. I can think, be happy and get the heck off the couch.

Then the great shortage, I switched to ritalin, nothing, then 3 weeks later I went back to the dr for another script, went to wallgreens cuz walmart was out.
Sure they asked me if I had any allergies. I did not think to say uh yeah to dairy, heck I wasn't, in my opinion gettin a script for milk & cheese.
I was given 20 mg of eon labs, containing LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE.

(Lets keep in mind I am not an abuser. I only take half a tab and then later in the day maybe another 5 mgs. I rarely do a whole 20mg.)

So I take half and then take another 5 mg. Mins later, about 2-3 hours after first dose, I am on the floor. My heart feels like it is going to explode. My sholders go numb, my left leg goes numb, and then panic sets in. I am all clamy, pale and sweaty, Lucky for me a neighbor found me outside on the ground and called 911. It was a panic attack.
A what? A PANIC ATTACK BROUGHT ON BY SEVERE ALLERGIC REACTION TO THE UNNECESSARY DAIRY INGREDENT IN MY DRUGS.
This happened last week. I have not been the same since. I was scared to take the drug but it is my last semester of college so I took it again, and again it was all gas, panic and fun on the come down.
From my additional research, if one has an allergy to
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE it takes about 2 hours to feel the horror. So just as one is about to come down of one ride, one is forced upon another, more scary ride.
If a person is severly lactose intollerant, like me, 10 mgs of eon labs adderall will make you feel like your heart is going to explode.
So I urge everyone to look at the fantastic information and photos posted here, look at the ingredients, gosh I cannot believe he boiled it down for us so well, or are you a she?
Doesn't matter, look at the pills before you leave the store, make sure they don't switch brands on you.
I don't know what I am going to do now. 3 weeks to graduation. Failed my first test yesterday.
I am Phi Theta Kappa and if one has A.D.D. than A really is for adderall.
I spent my entire life thinking I was stupid. Then I get diagnosed, then I get a crap batch at the finish line.
Why I outta, TO THE MOON, EON LABS.
uh OH NO spell check and no add meds. Sorry for the errors.
sCstudeNt

Can you do the Teva/Barr? I don't even know if that is a good idea. I'm sorry you had such a horrible reaction. I'm not a doctor but I know the bad feeling of doing horrible in school with ADD meds.

I don't know what's in Dextroamphetamine but that worked well for me and I didn't get the weird rash that I got with Adderall

Stressless37
04-16-12, 08:37 AM
I had corepherma back in December and could barely tolerate 10mgs without feeling horrible.
After having had Ritalin work ok for a few months, my pdoc suggest I try the adderall again.
I was hesitant but thinking how adderall worked well everyother day, I thought I could try it again and see.
Went and got the corepharma generic, but I seem to have no sensitivity to it like before.

In Dec. I tried 5mg everyday and then 7.5mg and it was still
every other day was productive/lazy.
When I would try 10mg before I'd get sooo lazy.
(and cranky)
Is it possible they changed the fillers or I am more tolerant of the drug it self?
I can take 10mgs and later 5mg where before I couldn't even take 10mg.
I haven't had any achey-ness as yet either...

latoday
04-22-12, 05:41 PM
Can you do the Teva/Barr? I don't even know if that is a good idea. I'm sorry you had such a horrible reaction. I'm not a doctor but I know the bad feeling of doing horrible in school with ADD meds.

I don't know what's in Dextroamphetamine but that worked well for me and I didn't get the weird rash that I got with Adderall

wow this may explain my reaction to the sandoz - do they have the same filler as I am fairly lactose intolerant and the sandoz sent my heart racing like crazy, stiff neck, dry mouth and i've tried both core and barr and did not have the same effect

latoday
04-23-12, 06:07 PM
I had corepherma back in December and could barely tolerate 10mgs without feeling horrible.
After having had Ritalin work ok for a few months, my pdoc suggest I try the adderall again.
I was hesitant but thinking how adderall worked well everyother day, I thought I could try it again and see.
Went and got the corepharma generic, but I seem to have no sensitivity to it like before.

In Dec. I tried 5mg everyday and then 7.5mg and it was still
every other day was productive/lazy.
When I would try 10mg before I'd get sooo lazy.
(and cranky)
Is it possible they changed the fillers or I am more tolerant of the drug it self?
I can take 10mgs and later 5mg where before I couldn't even take 10mg.
I haven't had any achey-ness as yet either...

I think Core has changed their formulation and may be the closest to the original adderall at this time since Barr/Teva has reconstituted their mix. I have a theory that Core is on the upswing while Sandoz is on the downswing. I have tried sandoz and felt like I'd drank four pots of coffee with racing heart, stiff neck, etc. I did Barr for quite a few months and found it tolerable but I felt somewhat buzzed on it and had sore hands. I have a theory with barr/teva that this evil company is targeting children in their new formulation. They have loaded it with artificial sweeteners, corn starch, etc. I think they are trying to create a sweet tasting product but are also trying to play around with blood sugar levels to maybe increase appetite in kids. I also have a feeling they may be adding some type of muscle relaxant to try to negate side effects and this may have something to do with the spacey feeling. Right now I am beginning a trial of core but so fare so good and it feels cleaner and longer lasting than the Barr. I do know a sandoz plant was recently shut down in canada and I am not fond of their forumlation. Hopefully, the core will be fine. I will report again after a few weeks.

jasgarcia
05-03-12, 08:55 PM
I just recently got diognose with ADD. i started talking 10mg Adderall generics today.. and i feel a little confuse,tired and a little out of it. Is that normal for generics or is it better to take adderall brand?

NuLeesOnLife
05-04-12, 09:45 AM
(my 1st post on one of these sites so bare with me!)
1st Thank you! To Pembliss for the excellent photo/listing of the different brands. I'd say generic, but from what I've been reading here and other places, there really is no more brand name, as it's made by a generic maker-as well as generic brands merging so who knows what's going on nowadays?!? -I hope to find out and update here, as it's been almost 2 years since anyone posted on this thread.
Well to cut to the chase, I started on Adderall almost a month ago, after a year on Ritalin wasn't doing much other than making me an "*******" according to my wife and kids.
I was started on the 5mg, 2 tabs, 3X a day. - Those 1st two tabs were like when the movie The Wizard of OZ, turns from B+W to color! - Where has this been all my life!
It was a 2 week trial, and I was back for more in 10 days. I found what I believe I truly needed. (at the tender age of 50!)
Those 5mg were Barr.
Next I was put on 20 mg 2x a day, since I felt the 3rd dose wasn't needed.
Opened my pill bottle, yep orange Barr 20mg, only I noticed a piece of cotton halfway down. Hadn't seen cotton in a script since like the 90's! Well that was separating the 20mg Barr ovals, from A bunch of Sandoz round 20mg orange ones.
I didn't think it'd be an issue, other than they didn't even tell me they did that, but what the hey, a drug is a drug.
WELL! I'm one of those people that HATE the Sandoz. Exact opposite than I read on this thread. Sandoz 20 mg felt like barely 5mg and a bunch of foggy, headachey crumminess.
So I went on google search. Found this site. Found others too where people had my exact reaction. So I called my pharmacy. This once nice woman turned total *****, so I just called my doctor, who, thank God, was familiar with this phenomenon. He said to try 1+1/2. and if that didn't work try 2! - 40mg at once after only 2 weeks! - I did it, and nothing. Later that day I tried 3 ! Drank a beer and felt something.
Long and short of it, Sandoz Adderall doesn't work for me.
Yesterday got Barr 30mg, prescribed 2 a day, and I'm happy as a clam. Organized. Paying delinquent bills. Clearing a full dining room table of mail going back to 2010 !!!
So there's my story, on the generics and how they affected me. Hope I helped someone out there who had a similar experience, but thought they were crazy!
I believe Barr is Teva and Core now. - Not positive, but the pharmacist I went to, (a new one) said he thought that all three merged.
Would love to hear some new stories on this one! Hope I "woke up" this thread!

wonderboy
05-04-12, 06:27 PM
After reading all the support of Sandoz Adderall IR, I tried it this month.

I must say that I found it to be very weak (low efficacy) and the strength (at least to me) was similar to Corepharma.

There is something, no doubt in my mind, that makes the Teva/Barr (invariably) more potent for most people.

Also, when you read the Prescribing Information from the official Sandoz site, notice that at the bottom, it states it is "manufactured for Sandoz by ..." another company I can't remember at this second. Who knew? But, I suppose that is how it is with many companies; but just interesting :)

Soha79
05-05-12, 04:27 PM
I take adderall xr 30 mg in the morning brand name and a 15-30 mg boost in the afternoon those are made by corepharma and are fantastic gives me a good solid five hours and my xr gives me about eight. This regimen works great for me because i have a full time job and have school two nights a week and of course homework some days so when i need the boost it really helps with my focus in the evening. My grade point average is 3.5 and i have had a great job for five years because i finally sought help for my adhd so life is good and i hope i helped.:)

rer222
06-16-12, 04:59 PM
This is my first post. My recent change in generics led me here. I've been on one 20mg Adderall IR for a year. I take it upon waking, for depression. Until now, I've only received Sandoz. It was perfect for what I needed. I could feel it kick in 20 minutes after taking. It was a gentle push that increased my energy, focus, and general happiness. Plus, it lasted all day. There was never a need for a second dose. I also, felt no side effects. No crash, at all. The only way I knew the med was wearing off, is 8-12 hours later, I felt hungry again. I never felt that I was building a tolerance or that I needed more. It felt the same every day, from the first dose a year ago, till now. I praised the med to my doc as the best thing to ever happen to beat the depression.
Fast forward, a year, till now. My pharmacy switched from Sandoz to Barr. I noticed the different pill shape and markings, and asked. My pharmacist told me it was the same. I truly believed him, took it, and went on with life. Well, this is day 3 on Barr. Complete 180. I'm getting no energy boost, no focus improvement, and my increased happiness is gone. I would say that its like taking nothing at all, but I now I get the negative side effects. 3-4 hours after taking it I get a foggy head feeling and nausea. I'm shocked by the huge difference. It seems that I'll have to deal with this for a month, then shop around for Sandoz.
I've read everyone's posts about their experiences with changing brands. I do have a question. Has anyone experienced my type of reaction, but later got used to a new brand and started feeling better, from it? In short, any chance the Barr may do better for me in, say, a week of taking it? It horrifies me to think I've got to deal with this a whole month. I just pray I can find someone in my area that still carries Sandoz. Thanks, in advance.

NuLeesOnLife
06-16-12, 06:42 PM
Isn't it interesting how we both had the same bad reactions to the opposite brands?
I have read around a few "theories". One is the fillers used by the different companies may be better for some but worse for others. For instance one has lactose one doesn't.
Also the binders/fillers may break down differently based on body chemistry.
There's also your body's acidity that may get affected. - My shrink told me to take a small glass of water with a 1/2 teaspoon of Baking Soda, 15-20 mins before the dose. You can also use Tums or Rolaids, but he told me the baking soda (which is just sodium bicarbonate) in the water gets absorbed fastest, and sets your body's ph level for optimum results.

Hope you get some relief.

rer222
06-17-12, 01:12 AM
Thanks. I've seen a couple other posts mentioning tums or baking soda. I do believe I'll try that. I go back to work tomorrow and these last three days off have been terrible. I've got nothing accomplished and had no enjoyment. Hopefully, complaining to my pharmacy will do some good. They are not a big chain so if there's enough complaints, they may switch back. If not, surely, one of the many pharmacies in my area has what I need. If the tums or baking soda doesn't help, I'll give these pills a week. Then I'm going to have to quit taking them till I get a new script. I've even been prescribed Xanex for about 4 years. When I started the Sandoz Adderall, I went from 2mg Xanex to 1. After a couple months, I went to 1/2 mg. Now I take the 1/2 as needed instead of every day. I had pretty much stopped taking them, at all, these last 2 months. I kept forgetting about them because I just didn't need them anymore. I was diagnosed with severe depression and tried several meds. All of them made me sick. I can't emphasise how much the Adderall was a miracle cure for me. And at 20mg only once a day! I feel like all my progress has been yanked away from me. Gonna be a long month...

ph(a)d(d)
06-20-12, 09:23 AM
I've been taking the Barr laboratories 20mg IR 2x / day for about a year now with good results. (Exception: I once got a scrip filled at a chain pharmacist (Walgreens? CVS? ...can't remember) and got Corepharma tablets. Those gave me headaches and were about 1/2 as effective at controlling my symptoms as the Barr tablets.

Today I go to my regular pharmacy and they gave me the Sandoz 20mg IRs, saying "these were the only ones we could get right now."

Long story short, I ended up here trying to see if I was going to have a negative reaction to the Sandoz like I did the Corepharma tablets. (BTW, thanks to all the folks on this thread who contributed well-researched information!)

Checking on the active ingredients in the Sandoz generics, I've come up with this analysis:

FD&C YELLOW NO. 6 - coloring agent
LACTOSE MONOHYDRATE - Disaccharide binder/stabiliser (used for its high compressability/carrier for amphetamine salts); glidant (allows for increased powder flowability [reduces friction between granules])
MAGNESIUM STEARATE - excipient antiadherent (reduces adhesion between powder (granules) and punch faces; prevents adhesion to tablet punches during manufacture)

Verdict? THEY OBVIOUSLY FREAKING WORK. I've got an appointment in 10 minutes and I'm still typing this because of the intense buzz/focus.

Hat's off, Sandoz!

AMust711
06-21-12, 06:17 PM
I'm new here too buddy, I don't even really fell like intruducing myself or giving background info at the moment because I have been on these horrible 10 mg barr/teva pills for about a month now.

Started at 1 pill twice a day, felt nothing but tired. Moved up to 1 and a half of the 10mg twice a day. At this point im starting to really notice some side effects. I thought it was just me, i became constantly exhausted, even after a good 8 hrs, my knees felt weak, i would take my first dose and sit on the couch untill i got up hrs later to take my second dose. I figured it was lyme disease after a tick i picked up so i went and got blood work done, Negative. I didn't want to sound like I wanted more and more so i told my doc it was kind of working but wasnt effective for the 14 hr work days i had.

Week two i was prescribed 20 mg XR generic(Teva) for in the morning and still take the 1 and a half of the "blue devils" in the afternoon. A couple days of that and my symptoms got worse, My mind starts messing with me, i start to think if its all in my head. I have always been an extremely social person and now im starting to not want to be around anybody or do anything. After reading all the reactions people have been posting on this forum i realize that I may not be turning into an anti-social/psychosomatic, its probably the JUNK pills Teva has been putting out with the quality of an Eastern European ecstasy lab. After reading this i stopped taking the "blue devils" and only take the one 20mg XR a day, its not enough to cover the the whole day but its better than the side effects i was getting.

Its only been a couple days and I'm staring to feel better, although i am frustrated, still dont know what to do with myself, and still dont want to be social, the joint-pain, weak knees, and fatigue are starting to subside. I have bad reactions to artificial sweeteners and blue dye which i suspect is the culprit because the XR doesnt seem to bother me that much. My doctors appt is in 2 days and im going to ask her for name brand XR (only because i dont trust teva) and maybe IR dexedrine.

Why cant they just make this stuff without all of the unnecessary ingredients? There is a Serious Problem throughout the entire medical field right now! Just this little "slice of the pie" we are experiencing with insurance and medications is only the beginning. We are essentially being forced to take sub-standard medication by Big-Pharma and Insurance companies or face not paying our bills or not eating. They have been doing this to senior citizens for years and now its everyone else's turn to be taken advantage of. Anyone else realize that this isnt going anywhere good?

BR549
06-21-12, 07:27 PM
My doctors appt is in 2 days and im going to ask her for name brand XR (only because i dont trust teva) and maybe IR dexedrine.

One thing to remember is that Shire still manufactures ALL XR. Teva and Global (Impax) distribute it under their brand name. The capsules are all manufactured at the same time and in the same plant. The only differences are 1) price--name brand is more expensive and 2) one is stamped "Adderall XR" and the others are stamped "M.Amphet Salt". They are otherwise identical down to the color of the capsules for each different mg.

With IR, they are manufactured by different companies.

AMust711
06-22-12, 09:50 AM
Thats good to know, i would rather not shell out a ridiculous amount of money for name brand. I know there isnt much difference but i find it hard to trust a company like Teva/Barr that filled over 630 million prescriptions in the US last year alone, that's 1 in 6 of all prescriptions issued in the US.
There is very little we can do except keep an eye on all the changes to inactive ingredients, i think these are the reasons for my adverse reactions. I really feel like it is up to us, the patients, to try and keep these companies as "honest" as possible.
I'm only 26 but i have witnessed how sketchy insurance and pharmaceutical companies have become just in my short lifetime, my mother works at an OB/GYN and I've witnessed these injustices are across the board. What i worry about is, what will be the quality of life for future generations if these companies are allowed to continually cut corners to increase their bottom line? It's a massive snowball effect so let's get out the blow-torch's. Always read all of the ingredients in anything, be aware of what we are putting in our bodies. We do have power, our nearly-broken system still works on supply and demand.

shelby123
06-22-12, 10:50 AM
Hi,
I have had the best results with the Barr oval. I am currently taking 15mg twice a day. Right now I am on the Barr "round" after having been on the oval 30 mg broken in half due to the shortage. Is there a difference between the two? Or is it all in my head. I feel the the rounds make me just want to stare at the wall. Or again, maybe it's all in my head and I really do just want to stare at the wall. :rolleyes:

shelby123
06-22-12, 10:51 AM
I should mention too, its IR Thanks!

AMust711
06-22-12, 12:53 PM
I always ask if it's just me before looking at outside sources. In doing a lot of research though it seems like many people experience the same symptoms. To my knowledge both the oval and round Teva/Barr pills, in their respective strengths, contain the same active and inactive ingredients. Im pretty sure it gives a breakdown of all generics at the beginning of this thread.

ssseeker
07-29-12, 10:07 AM
Thanks so much for this thread!

How do I find a different generic? I have called all the major pharmacies in Seattle and they all carry Teva. (Walgreens, Costco, Safeway, Bartell) They say I have no choice about the supplier.

Also, some say Teva and Barr are the same. Some in the forum say they are different, and Barr is top quality. What's the deal? (Mine are Teva and look exactly like the picture -- blue, oval.)


Background:
On TEVA 10mg, short acting, I actually became paranoid, agitated, extremely depressed, and didn't sleep for 2 days after the last dose. I almost went to the hospital! Strangely, the reaction didn't start until I'd taken the pills for 3 days. I would say this wasn't even the same drug, but I tried it from several pharmacies with the same results.

I've been taking Adderrall for 14 years, name brand and later generic, and have never had a reaction like this. I didn't realize the supplier had changed so I didn't suspect it until I had ruled out all supplements, food and even the water. Name brand fixed the problem.

I appreciate the list of ingredients very much! Now I can compare them if I have a reaction to anything else in the future.

RoxyMusic
07-29-12, 05:49 PM
While I don't take Adderall for my ADHD, I take Teva produced Dex IR. I have had a bunch of side effects in the last month or so from the Dex. It may just be that I am still getting used to it, but I am also wondering if Teva is messing with the formulas of their stimulant medication. The Dex IR was working great for me until a month or so ago.

I was thinking of trying Adderall, but now I'm not sure, reading through this thread.

Anyway just my $.02 cents.

Nocturnal
07-31-12, 08:36 PM
I know this is in regards to the regular non time release Adderall but I have to say I am so damn disappointed. I've searched Google and found another fella who noticed about towards the end of last year is when he noticed a change in the XR formula too, even the brand new. Now I'm scouring the net and can clearly see that there is definitely something different with the way they make the generics and it's quite sad that we're being ripped off like this. I understand they would prefer for us to move to Vyvanse due to their patents on it but it sickens me to think they'd purposely do that.

Twiggy
07-31-12, 09:49 PM
I take 15mg 3x a day of Barr/Teva generic Adderall IR and I don't even notice any real benefits nor side effects.
ONLY Barr/Teva makes this strength... :(

AMust711
08-08-12, 12:30 PM
Anyone get the new generic brand "Global" offered by walgreens?

AMust711
08-08-12, 12:32 PM
i currently take 30 mg XR. Two 10 mgs in the morning an 1 at night

Mattd0344
08-13-12, 12:57 AM
While I don't take Adderall for my ADHD, I take Teva produced Dex IR. I have had a bunch of side effects in the last month or so from the Dex. It may just be that I am still getting used to it, but I am also wondering if Teva is messing with the formulas of their stimulant medication. The Dex IR was working great for me until a month or so ago.

I was thinking of trying Adderall, but now I'm not sure, reading through this thread.

Anyway just my $.02 cents.

I'm not sure if they have been messing with the formula, but my script for July, the teva generic adderall in 10mg IR seems to be almost ineffective.

I still had a couple pills left from the month of June and they were perfectly fine.

I'm hoping that I just got a bad batch for this month, but I may be switching to Sandoz for my next script.

ocilac
10-06-12, 11:18 PM
same. i also take generic 10mg IR; my last script was july 10th in south carolina, that was fine though maybe weak (Ill never know if its tolerance or the drug) but my recent script last week is ENTIRELY unaffective.

dogluver358
10-17-12, 03:12 PM
My drugstore only carries Barr and Corepharma. The barr makes me too anxious and I don't like how the CorePharma wears off. What is with this? I remember taking it when I was in college about 4 years ago, I don't know what brand, but I had no trouble with it. I'm on IR 10mg. Is the Sandoz really worth the hunt to find it?

Would it be strange to find a new pharamcy for just the adderall IR and ask them to order a specific brand?

I'm thinking of switching to XR now, but my insurance decided this year it's going to stop paying for the brand only. Now they only pay for the generic this upcoming year which is strange...since I heard there were problems with the generics of XR. So are the generic XRs okay?

Argh! This is so frustrating!

hbpennington
10-19-12, 05:40 PM
Thank you!

sangeeta
11-07-12, 01:23 PM
I'd like to thank you all for this thread. Until recently I thought this was all bunk and there was no way that generics could affect people so differently. How wrong I was. I was given Sandoz to start with 20 mg/day. Loved it had no side effects except thirst and not hungry. Then 2 months later for a refill I was given Barr. It sucked. I got little from it and I ended up with feeling like I did prior to any meds, anxious, cranky, not motivated, hyper. The sandoz made me calm and quiet. I just went to my dr and asked her about it. She said she had heard of it but I was her 1st patient that brought it up. She wrote my script to request that I only be given Sandoz. Needless to say the pharmacist questioned the whole thing. He said all generics are the same and I really shouldn't be having this problem but he filled it correctly. Back on Sandoz everything seems better. I'm focused and even tempered. It's actually alarming reading all the stories on here about how common this is. I would think the med/pharm society would be more aware of it.

SBSBsbsb
11-26-12, 02:32 AM
I think you should hunt for the sandoz brand. Don't waste your time. I'm studying 6-10 hrs a day for a board exam and I've noticed a hugeee difference between the two. I was taking the oval 30 mg barr tablets 3x a day for 3 months and I couldn't concentrate as well +/- felt like a zombie. I would literally fall asleep after taking 60 mg or just zone out starring at my laptop. I even switched to eating nothing but basic foods and avoiding all pH lowering ones. I thought I was building a tolerance/or felt really burnt out, so I went on a drug holiday for a month (wasted month 4). Started the barr ones again and they were worse than before (october). This led me to start taking magnesium 400 mg + 2 extra strength fish oil supplements every night. I feel like the barr oval pills just recently went downhill in the past few months b/c Ive never had a procrastination problem/demotivated feeling before. I would have to start my day off reading motivational quotes. Anyway, this month costco gave me the sandoz/Eon brand and I'm able to focus again, without having to wake up and read motivational quotes. I'm not sure if its the magnesium<< sandoz brand that fixed my issue, but Im leaning more towards the brand. I would have never even thought to search adhd forums to see if there was difference between the generic brands until I got that stupid batch...I almost think it made my adhd worse than before...scary! Sighh, and I'm only writing this post b/c I think these companies need to fix their **** and stop screwing us over so effing bad. I will talk to my psychiatrist about this also. I'm hoping Sandoz keeps making good batches.

The Absent Mind
12-10-12, 04:46 PM
'm studying 6-10 hrs a day for a board exam and I've noticed a hugeee difference between the two. I was taking the oval 30 mg barr tablets 3x a day for 3 months and I couldn't concentrate as well +/- felt like a zombie. I would literally fall asleep... I would have to start my day off reading motivational quotes. Anyway, this month costco gave me the sandoz/Eon brand and I'm able to focus again, without having to wake up and read motivational quotes... I would have never even thought to search adhd forums to see if there was difference between the generic brands until I got that stupid batch...I almost think it made my adhd worse than before...scary! Sighh, and I'm only writing this post b/c I think these companies need to fix their **** and stop screwing us over so effing bad. I will talk to my psychiatrist about this also. I'm hoping Sandoz keeps making good batches.

What you say sounds very familiar to me. I have had similar experiences.

This isn’t just tolerance either. Like many of you, I have various older scripts to compare to and the difference is obvious. For me most of the problems seem to stem from the IR generics. (Though I have noticed some differences with the potency of some of the brand name, like Vyvanse too). I think one of two things are happening.

One, the IR formulations are being screwed with to discourage abuse. or...
Two, the IR formulations are being screwed with to encourage the use of Brand name formulations.

Does this sound paranoid? Maybe so. But something has happened to this stuff. After all, look around online and read about the many individuals—many who have taken stimulant drugs for years without issue—that complain about this very thing.

So the question is why? Well, I think the answer may be simple. Money.

Keep in mind, not only might both of the above medication alterations be perfectly legal, but doing anything else might very well be illegal. Why? Because the employees of the corporations have a legal obligation to maximize shareholder wealth. That’s why corporations exist. That’s the law.

And the active ingredients (i.e. the amp salts) probably are identical to the name brand formulations, just like they say. BUT, that’s not to say that the other ingredients are affecting the bio-availability of these active ingredients the same way. What if, for instance, the cruddy generics have some inactive ingredient that causes the amp to be less effective? Maybe it’s cheaper too. Or it could be that the name brand formulations have some inactive ingredient that makes the amp more effective?

Would the big pharm corps be wrong to change the inactive ingredients around to encourage the sale of the name brand drugs? Sure it’s a ****ty thing to do to all of us, but don’t the corps have a responsibility to their shareholders?

But here’s the thing. Shouldn’t these corps also have a responsibility to people? I mean think about it—any of us that have gone through this “fluctuation of effectiveness”—would any one of us doubt for one moment that messing with people’s meds like this can drive a person bat-**** crazy?

I shudder to think what it must do to the children who take this stuff and don’t know any better. I read a while ago about how one young boy (I think he was five) with ADHD who was having these all-too-familiar issues with his meds, laid down in the middle of the road because he wanted to die.

Anyway, I just thought I’d chime in and say that you’re not alone. You’re not crazy. It isn't your fault. It isn't you. It isn't what you eat, or what supplements you take. Most of the time that is coincidence. It is the crappy medication, and don't forget it!

I’ve been having problems like this for a while now too. Stick it out. They will have to fix it at some point and when they do, we’ll feel better again.

starry
12-18-12, 03:08 AM
I've been on 30 mg IR (2x 15 mg pills a day) for years and the effects have mostly been consistent but I knew I was due to up my dosage for a long time now, since my ADD had stopped improving and had lost my daily motivation again, not being able to finish tasks, but my binge-eating was still under control, so I wasn't in that bad of a state. Still 90% better than without any Adderall. A week ago, my doctor finally agreed to up my dosage and put me on 40 mg a day. I was so happy when I got my new presciption filled and so looking forward to feel the improvement once again. I ate my usual breakfast of a small bowl of almond milk and extra-protein cereal, took my multi-vitamins for the day. Then as I've always done it the same way for years, took my Adderall exactly an hour after eating. Usually I would feel it kick in about 15 mins maximum. This time.....nothing. Then after 30 mins I felt it a little bit. But it was VERY DIFFERENT this time. I barely felt anything, except sleepiness and lack of motivation. Also started to feel depressed. Also I kept wanting to eat, when I knew I wasn't hungry or anything. I craved "finger foods".... just like the horrible "old days" before I was diagnosed with ADD and put on Adderall. 6 hours later, I took my last dose for the day and was hoping this time would be different. But no. Same thing. A week later, nothing has changed and I have also figured out what had changed. The effects of the new 20mg's felt like barely even a 5mg!
I checked the 2 bottles and found out that my old prescription were b777's by Teva and my new ones were E 401's by Sandoz. I had always gotten the same generic brand, from the same pharmacy and loved the Teva ones... but I absolutely HATE the SANDOZ brand!!
It doesn't do anything for me and I don't know what the pharmacy will say when I call them in the day time. I just wanted to give it a week, so I can tell them that I did give it enough time. But I can't function at all on these horrible placebo-like pills they gave me. Does anyone know if they'll take the rest back and replace it with my old generic brand that works for me?? My next refills are in 3 months, and there's no way I could manage that long on these Sandoz ones that make me sleepy, hungry, depressed (and I wasn't even depressed before taking these), unmotivated and unable to focus again. I'm very surprised to read that so many people here actually like Sandoz better... They remind me of the blue pills (Corepharma- yikes!) that I took in the beginning, when I had first started taking Adderall IR. They were 5/10mgs I think. Then I was given the 20 XR and it was such a HUGE difference! But I prefer IR's due to the price as well as the ability to have control over the hours and when to take it depending on my schedule and day.
PS: I had some pills left over of the Teva's and took them for one day, and immediately I felt them kick in and working and they lasted around 5 hours, as they always do.

In short and IMO: Sandoz makes the WORST generic Adderall. Even worse than Corepharma and Corepharma is horrible.
I loved Barr, but Teva is still ok. I do believe that Teva has somewhat altered the formula, since taking over Barr, but the difference is not that drastic. Or I have developed tolerance...:umm1:

mannip23
12-18-12, 02:02 PM
I've been on 30 mg IR (2x 15 mg pills a day) for years and the effects have mostly been consistent but I knew I was due to up my dosage for a long time now, since my ADD had stopped improving and had lost my daily motivation again, not being able to finish tasks, but my binge-eating was still under control, so I wasn't in that bad of a state. Still 90% better than without any Adderall. A week ago, my doctor finally agreed to up my dosage and put me on 40 mg a day. I was so happy when I got my new presciption filled and so looking forward to feel the improvement once again. I ate my usual breakfast of a small bowl of almond milk and extra-protein cereal, took my multi-vitamins for the day. Then as I've always done it the same way for years, took my Adderall exactly an hour after eating. Usually I would feel it kick in about 15 mins maximum. This time.....nothing. Then after 30 mins I felt it a little bit. But it was VERY DIFFERENT this time. I barely felt anything, except sleepiness and lack of motivation. Also started to feel depressed. Also I kept wanting to eat, when I knew I wasn't hungry or anything. I craved "finger foods".... just like the horrible "old days" before I was diagnosed with ADD and put on Adderall. 6 hours later, I took my last dose for the day and was hoping this time would be different. But no. Same thing. A week later, nothing has changed and I have also figured out what had changed. The effects of the new 20mg's felt like barely even a 5mg!
I checked the 2 bottles and found out that my old prescription were b777's by Teva and my new ones were E 401's by Sandoz. I had always gotten the same generic brand, from the same pharmacy and loved the Teva ones... but I absolutely HATE the SANDOZ brand!!
It doesn't do anything for me and I don't know what the pharmacy will say when I call them in the day time. I just wanted to give it a week, so I can tell them that I did give it enough time. But I can't function at all on these horrible placebo-like pills they gave me. Does anyone know if they'll take the rest back and replace it with my old generic brand that works for me?? My next refills are in 3 months, and there's no way I could manage that long on these Sandoz ones that make me sleepy, hungry, depressed (and I wasn't even depressed before taking these), unmotivated and unable to focus again. I'm very surprised to read that so many people here actually like Sandoz better... They remind me of the blue pills (Corepharma- yikes!) that I took in the beginning, when I had first started taking Adderall IR. They were 5/10mgs I think. Then I was given the 20 XR and it was such a HUGE difference! But I prefer IR's due to the price as well as the ability to have control over the hours and when to take it depending on my schedule and day.
PS: I had some pills left over of the Teva's and took them for one day, and immediately I felt them kick in and working and they lasted around 5 hours, as they always do.

In short and IMO: Sandoz makes the WORST generic Adderall. Even worse than Corepharma and Corepharma is horrible.
I loved Barr, but Teva is still ok. I do believe that Teva has somewhat altered the formula, since taking over Barr, but the difference is not that drastic. Or I have developed tolerance...:umm1:

It just goes to show you everyone is different. Barr gets me way to jittery and I can't focus like I can with others. Its fine for physical labor but not for studying or desk work. Sandoz is the brand I prefer and I am more than willing to go to a mom and pop pharmacy 30 miles away to get them. It is just like the old shire ir but maybe 5% weaker. Corepharma is hit or miss. I remember the first time I got them at Walgreens there was no active drug in them at all. I am prescribed to 4 30mg a day so I know they we not adderall. I couldn't believe it I was so ******. However the mom and pop pharmacy sneaks corepharma on me maybe 10 percent of the time and its as good or if not better than the Sandoz Eon brand. I think the problem with Corepharma is just at Walgreens and their distributor IMO.

starry
12-24-12, 02:20 AM
It just goes to show you everyone is different. Barr gets me way to jittery and I can't focus like I can with others. Its fine for physical labor but not for studying or desk work. Sandoz is the brand I prefer and I am more than willing to go to a mom and pop pharmacy 30 miles away to get them. It is just like the old shire ir but maybe 5% weaker. Corepharma is hit or miss. I remember the first time I got them at Walgreens there was no active drug in them at all. I am prescribed to 4 30mg a day so I know they we not adderall. I couldn't believe it I was so ******. However the mom and pop pharmacy sneaks corepharma on me maybe 10 percent of the time and its as good or if not better than the Sandoz Eon brand. I think the problem with Corepharma is just at Walgreens and their distributor IMO.


Thanks for the feedback :) Very interesting!
And yes, it must work different for us all. I think Sandoz might have been OK for me, if it was a higher dose. The 20 mg (2 x a day) truly feels like only a 5 mg to me. Barely any effects and wears off in 2 hrs or so, but I know what you mean by being similar to Shire. The very minimal effect that I did feel in the first hour reminded me of it.

Called my pharmacy and talked to them about the problem. Nothing they can do until my prescription runs out they said, but they told me that they can order Teva for my next prescription, if that's what I prefer, so that's good :)

They did also tell me that Sandoz is cheaper Teva, which I didn't know. I didn't ask how much cheaper or why it's cheaper.

Cnkack
12-28-12, 09:13 PM
Cheaper? Really??

I actually paid $22.00 today for Sandoz and when I get Barr or CorePharma I pay $5.00 to $10.00.

That of course is after my insurance.. I am not sure if it is different with out?

Cnkack
12-29-12, 12:04 PM
I have taken all three "brands" and I just filled Sandoz yesterday for the first time. I can definitely feel a difference in the three, and the doctors who prescribe them do not know this because 9 times out of 10, they haven't even taken them to know! So how can they really help?:confused:
My practitioner, however has! So, she is VERY understanding and knows exactly what I am talking about and that is what I love about having her manage my medication. Very informative, and knows what she is doing.

Anyhow, here is how I feel so far and this will most likely change because I did just fill sandoz yesterday and I probably need to give it a few more days...

Corepharma: A speedy effect, in terms of needing to get things done ASAP and more sociable. However, I am still able to get school work done and focus but I do tend to get easily distracted with other things. For instance: talking to people, browsing the net; aside from studying and school work.

I had a lot of issues when I took the 20mg corepharma, when it came to cardiovascular problems. I will never take a 20mg all at once again, and asked to please never be prescribed a 20mg pill. I am now back at 20mg total for the day after the cardiovascular ordeal and doing fine, but it is spread through out the day with 5-10mg pills, two to three times a day.

Barr/Teva: No speedy effects, at least not too noticeable, I can get things done calmly and it actually helped my OCD habits (I have problems with "perfecting" things, and making sure everything is straightened up, to the point that it makes me late for everything because I won't leave the house or get ready until it looks right. I hate it!)
I can get work done and concentrate, however my ADD habits of being distracted easily are still there, but not as prominent as it is on the corepharma.
I do get palpitations from time to time, but not near as often. Socially, I am more withdrawn and like to keep to myself and I don't like that feeling at all!:eyebrow:

Sandoz: So far, I feel a mix of both corepharma and barr. I really can not say too much yet. However, I can say I like the fact so far that I only get a noticeable palpiation/pvc randomly, maybe once every few hours and it seems to be more so when it is wearing off.

I like the social aspects of corepharma over all and wish there was a way to get all the positive effects in one pill. Sometimes I try and tell myself it's the placebo effect, and it's all in my head but for the most part I really do not think it is. There is truly a difference in how each pill works, or at least in how the body absorbs it, and how they react to it. Since as we all know, every BODY is different :)

anery9467
12-30-12, 03:39 PM
I took the 20mg. Shire/Brand NameAdderall for years and it was great. It was smooth and kept me focused and I didn't "crash" after 4 hours. I kept taking "Brand Adderall" (if you want to call it that) when Barr/Teva took over. The effects started out the same started out the same, I piqued after an hour, and after 2 hours I became lethargic and my focus was definitely dulled. By 4 hours I was crashing - feeling jittery so i tried the generics and Barr works best for me.

I agree that everybody has different reactions to generics, so it's really important to find the one that works best. Also, all the Walgreens in my area used to order CP, but about 4 months ago they switched to Barr. Don't know if it's nation wide or regional. Does anyone else get Barr at Walgreens?

mamasaurusrexxx
01-02-13, 08:12 PM
I've taken 20mg adderall twice a day for my adhd successfully. I've always gotten Barr-Teva. I've read here long ago about the generics differences, but hadn't experienced the corepharma. Well my usual pharmacy was out and couldn't Refill. I had already been out 6 days bc I have no INS and couldn't budget it until then...

Went to Target pharmacy, whack-*** corepharma. I can notice a major difference. My head feels foggy, otherwise I don't feel a thing. This sucks.

starry
01-04-13, 12:56 AM
Cheaper? Really??

I actually paid $22.00 today for Sandoz and when I get Barr or CorePharma I pay $5.00 to $10.00.

That of course is after my insurance.. I am not sure if it is different with out?

That's what the pharmacist told me. That Sandoz is cheaper. I didn't see much of a difference in what I paid. Still an arm and a leg (I pay around $260 for 180 pills), since I don't have insurance anymore and my doctor insists on prescribing 2 pills a day, rather than letting me use a pill cutter and cut a 40mg in half. I prefer not having to do that either, but it would save me $130 that way. And since my doctor isn't cheap either, it would have been nice to be able to pay a little less in this terrible economy right now (hence why I had to cancel my insurance).

starry
01-04-13, 01:43 AM
Well the pharmacy said they couldn't do anything, so I'm stuck with the crappy Sandoz pills for the next few months. I didn't bother calling my doctor about it. The pharmacy said that he probably wouldn't be able to do anything about it either.

These Sandoz ones not only feel like 5mg to me and wear off within an hour or so but the worst effect is that they are making me feel extremely anti-social, depressed, a strange feeling of hopelessness and a state of silent panic (a feeling like something horrible is about to happen). It also makes my head feel pressure and heavy, causing headaches. Especially in my forehead and the back and top of my head. Very strange. Never felt anything like this before on the Teva or Shire. Other than these side effects, I feel nothing else. No difference in heart beat rate. And my blood pressure is normal as always. A tiny improvement in focusing, but still feeling tired when I take it. I can take a nap in the middle of the day on these.....not good! I need to be productive during the day, not lazy and unmotivated.
I still have some Teva's left over, so I take one some days and the difference is like night and day between the Sandoz and Teva.
On Teva, I feel NORMAL again! How I miss that feeling! Back to being a social person and in a good mood, focused and productive...getting things done.
I really dislike the heavy, dark cloud that Sandoz brings upon me. Whatever it is that they put in this, really doesn't agree with the chemistry of my brain.
I doubt that my doctor will agree that there's a huge difference in the chemical make up of different generics. The pharmacist was sympathetic though and said that some people prefer certain generics over others, while others do not notice any difference between them. I don't know, how they don't to be honest.
All I can say is, I miss Teva..... sigh. Gonna be a long few months.

Sinco54
01-04-13, 07:12 AM
A Google search led me here. Wow what a wealth of great first hand experiences from patients with real unbiased and non-altererial motives here.. I feel very fortunate to have found this community.. anyhow.. I'm a 33 year old man well 33 until the 15 of this month anyhow lol.. I've been on adderll 20's for just about 8 months, I've always filled at walg:preens and always got peach colored oval sweet tasting pills, this last fill they gave me pink round ones you I've since identified as corepharma. Wow, what garbage those are, nasty headaches, I had to take up to 5 at one time to get and "effects" and they just feel "dirty" Tue come down sucks.. I won't fill again with these terrible terrible generic drug. Guess I'll be on The hunt for the peach oval ones.. also, have any other males experienced a massive amount in increase of ejaculate while on this med.. I seem to have a massive quantity of pre ejaculate along with a high ( too too high) increase in stamina during sexual intercourse. It was novel at first but my wife doesn't find it amusing anymore.. sorry if this is the wrong place for that question and hopefully I can provide some helpful insight back to the community with my experiences. Please forgive bad grammar/punctuation I'm postong from my phone.. thank you..

Mike..

wonderboy
01-08-13, 05:17 PM
When I first started Adderall, it was the Barr version (back in 2008)
I remember that after about 4mo, my pharmacy switched over to
Corepharma, which I found --very-- weak.

However, this last month I received the Corepharma brand, and
it was commensurate with that of Barr, and I thought, even better.

Perhaps they have improved their quality?

Modulus
03-05-13, 09:09 AM
I've been on adderall ir for almost a year, and I'm currently taking 25mg twice a day. But the last month or so it's been making me kind of tired, and just really mellow. Focus and concentration is good, but I think it's not as good as it used to be due to me feeling tired. I always get the teva generic, corepharma didn't work as well as teva. I was just curious if anyone else experienced this? And there's been no change in diet, and I do not take any other medications. Perhaps try a different generic?

PreMedADHD72
03-05-13, 10:52 PM
I have been on adderall for almost 10 years now-- used to just take it a few times per week but now take it almost every day. I am prescribed the Sandoz 20mg IR and I find that my tolerance is going up. I now have to take 30mg initially and then a 10mg booster a few hours later-- I am worried that I am taking too much and that this will have negative side effects long-term. I already find that I am getting some of the common annoying side effects and it lasts only a few hours now.

Is there another generic company that works better for most people in terms of lasting longer and fewer side effects ? I've always just taken what the pharmacy gave me but I want to try another brand. Do I just tell the pharmacy to fill my prescription with the desired generic brand next time I get a prescription?

Thanks in advance.

Modulus
03-06-13, 07:14 AM
I have been on adderall for almost 10 years now-- used to just take it a few times per week but now take it almost every day. I am prescribed the Sandoz 20mg IR and I find that my tolerance is going up. I now have to take 30mg initially and then a 10mg booster a few hours later-- I am worried that I am taking too much and that this will have negative side effects long-term. I already find that I am getting some of the common annoying side effects and it lasts only a few hours now.

Is there another generic company that works better for most people in terms of lasting longer and fewer side effects ? I've always just taken what the pharmacy gave me but I want to try another brand. Do I just tell the pharmacy to fill my prescription with the desired generic brand next time I get a prescription?

Thanks in advance.

Teva seems to last longer for me, compared to Corepharma. I always ask what generic the pharmacy carry, and tell them I only want Teva (I usually call the pharmacy about this, so I avoid driving to several pharmacies in case they are out of Teva). You have the right to choose what generic you want to get (unless if your prescreption specifies a certain generic brand).

lhaygood26
03-12-13, 10:41 AM
I am prescribed adderall xr 10 mg capsules. I want the 10 mg orange tablet, Anyone know what brand it is?

Rams88
03-24-13, 08:51 AM
I am prescribed adderall xr 10 mg capsules. I want the 10 mg orange tablet, Anyone know what brand it is?

Years ago it used to be Teva or Shire, no telling these days

Twiggy
04-22-13, 10:48 PM
I start Adderall IR tomorrow. I got the Barr 20mg tablets today.

johnsinger
05-09-13, 09:03 PM
I've spent the last two weeks running around San Francisco, trying to get my prescription filled. It specifies Corepharma only, since Barr makes me too sleepy. I called several branches of Walgreens today, since my usual pharmacist told me that the less busy branches may have it in stock. A pharmacy assistant at one of the stores assured me that they had it in stock, so dropped what I was doing, took a bus up to that store, dropped off my prescription, and came home to a message from the pharmacist asking me to call the store. It turns out that they do not have Corepharma in stock. I'm sick of this!! I started taking this medication because I had NO LIFE at all, I could not function, and I was suicidal because of it. Adderall gave me my life back, but now I'm spending the tiny bit of free, functional time I have running around trying to get my prescription filled. Some stores refused to give me the information over the phone. I am on a very tight schedule and budget. So can anyone tell me what pharmacy chains are more likely to carry Corepharma, or Eon (whatever it's called now)? Anything but Barr.

Thanks in advance.

DTN107
05-11-13, 01:08 AM
If you are a student at your university then check with your student health center.

Turns out the one at mine and some of my friends around North Carolina has EON brand.

Twiggy
05-21-13, 01:55 PM
I got the CorePharma generic yesterday at my pharmacy. Today is my first day of taking it. I took 10mg at 8:00AM today and didn't notice any side effects as of yet.

Last month I had Barr generic. I will post an update later on what I noticed between the two generics.

fuzzytwinkee
05-23-13, 11:20 AM
I was recently diagnosed 2 months ago and have been taking generic 5mg/1 day at first then to 2x a day then after telling dr I feel no better he raised it to 10mg 2x/day. I do notice a slight increase in clarity and ability to concentrate and find my words now but feel I may finally be onto something if it were a little stronger. I was beginning to lose hope that adderall was going to work for me at all. After reading all the posts on generic vs name brand I decided maybe this is the cause so I decided to splurge and ask the pharm for name brand no generic this time and the price went from 5.00 to 79.80 for 60 pills BUT I could def notice a difference! As long as I can afford it I am going to try to get the name brand. I am going to ask my dr next week if he can write it necc. so maybe ins. will pay for more of the script. Def worth it if u can afford name brand!

Twiggy
05-23-13, 01:36 PM
To me, the CorePharma generic is way more smoother than the Barr/Teva generic.
I don't feel it kick in, which reminds me of Dexedrine IR.

Today I took 15mg in the morning (9:50AM) to see if I notice anything more from CorePharma.

zaccc1
08-02-13, 07:51 PM
Well the pharmacy said they couldn't do anything, so I'm stuck with the crappy Sandoz pills for the next few months. I didn't bother calling my doctor about it. The pharmacy said that he probably wouldn't be able to do anything about it either.

These Sandoz ones not only feel like 5mg to me and wear off within an hour or so but the worst effect is that they are making me feel extremely anti-social, depressed, a strange feeling of hopelessness and a state of silent panic (a feeling like something horrible is about to happen). It also makes my head feel pressure and heavy, causing headaches. Especially in my forehead and the back and top of my head. Very strange. Never felt anything like this before on the Teva or Shire. Other than these side effects, I feel nothing else. No difference in heart beat rate. And my blood pressure is normal as always. A tiny improvement in focusing, but still feeling tired when I take it. I can take a nap in the middle of the day on these.....not good! I need to be productive during the day, not lazy and unmotivated.
I still have some Teva's left over, so I take one some days and the difference is like night and day between the Sandoz and Teva.
On Teva, I feel NORMAL again! How I miss that feeling! Back to being a social person and in a good mood, focused and productive...getting things done.
I really dislike the heavy, dark cloud that Sandoz brings upon me. Whatever it is that they put in this, really doesn't agree with the chemistry of my brain.
I doubt that my doctor will agree that there's a huge difference in the chemical make up of different generics. The pharmacist was sympathetic though and said that some people prefer certain generics over others, while others do not notice any difference between them. I don't know, how they don't to be honest.
All I can say is, I miss Teva..... sigh. Gonna be a long few months.

That's weird. I just went from 2 years of Sandoz/Eon to my first pill of Teva after recently moving states. Same doses for both, 20mg and 15mg IR. However, with the Teva I feel nothing. The Sandoz I felt were very effective.

Addkitteh
08-24-13, 10:03 PM
I just got my Adderall script filled. 20mg tabs 1 and 1/2 or 2 pills daily so 60 count for the mounth this morning I took 2. NOTHING. Never felt it kick in at all. Ive been on Adderall for years so I know how it feels when its working. It was like I took a sugar pill. So I took another one after a few hours just to see if it was a fluke. Still nothing. I paid over $80 for sugar pills. The bottle says Barr.

I called the pharmacy up to ask for a refund and he said I would have to talk to the regular pharmacist on Monday.

Has anyone ever successfully gotten a refund on bad pills?


Another thing I think we should all do is start reporting the bad batches to the FDA every time we are given ineffective pills. The site is here.

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/medwatch/index.cfm

eliz567
09-16-13, 07:27 PM
Did you eat before you took pills? I find they took best on empty stomach.

HistoryGuy
09-28-13, 05:30 PM
Hello everyone, I've been on generic Adderall XR for a while now and my doctor and I have discussed using a booster for the mid afternoon. What kind of dosing size should I expect? And are there any generics to stray away from?

badAddyBatches
10-01-13, 08:36 AM
Why is there so much varience between the different generic manufacturers and even from batch to batch with the same manufacturer. I found this post and it pretty much sums it up...
First of all, I have never seen such a problem with other meds as generic Adderall. Literally, have bunk batches what seems like every other month. Or partial bunk scripts mixed in with ones that work. (can taste difference)

"Everyone (like us) usually has an opinion on what brand generic they like for their Rx meds, but even if you get stuck with a brand you dont like, it still works. I prefer the malli roxis, but will still take the A215s/k9s with great results.

With a quick google search, you will find ALLL sorts of discussion recently about this, so i was suprised to not find one here recently. You can see some of these generic adderall brands have been sued for QC issues, and all kinds of other stuff. But there seems to be a huge problem still.

For example, Corpharma Adderall (pink or orange, round with the + score for 1/4s) is known for - The speediest of all, or complete bunk. You can literally notice the difference in your script. I take as directed, except i snort it. So I can tell right away by taste if its going to be the normal speedy effect that someone normally gets from Adderall, or if its taste bitter its a bunk one. like bunk. fall asleep if you went and laid down, and you know thats not possible from an with the active ingredient one. I have had some success from the orange ones, but the pink ones i swear could be a secret placebo study.

These brands quality bounce around on what seems to be every couple months
-Corepharma
-Barr/Teva
-SANDOZ.

Adderall is already brutally expensive without a insurance, but I am sick of gambling and the real ones are obviously always on point."

Now I take my script normally, I don't snort them, but I am uninsured and had to switch from name brand xr's to whatever is cheapest (still over $100/month) Now I've been on adderall or generic for over 10 years now and a couple of years ago got the pink 30's and it was as if I was given a totally different drug- as if the active ingrediant was missing totally. Now I'm running into Teva/Barr doing the same thing! For the 4th time in the last several years I have received a "bad batch" since it is a schedule II substance I'm basically screwed for a month, as I can't trade them in for a different batch or get a new script. I can take them and be miserable or not take them and be miserable but I'm basically out a hundred bucks-AGAIN- and without proper medication for a month.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW OF SOME WAY TO FIX THIS??? Looking at internet posts it's a pretty widespread problem, does the FDA or whatever body that oversees the pharmaceutical industry just not care? This is not what I was prescribed or what I paid for; after daily use for over a decade I know when I've taken my medication and when I have not. This last batch of Barr 30's IS NOT a legitimate script. Theres no way for me to pay for the name brand, which I know will be the same every time, but these bad batches screw up my life; they hurt work, relationships, my overall well being, my financial situation, and the pharmacist simply says 'well those are what you were prescribed,can't do anything about it" why can they not take back what I have remaining and send them back to the manufacturer and give me a different batch? It's total BS!!!!!

Ashlynn
10-13-13, 01:54 AM
Why is there so much varience between the different generic manufacturers and even from batch to batch with the same manufacturer. I found this post and it pretty much sums it up...
First of all, I have never seen such a problem with other meds as generic Adderall. Literally, have bunk batches what seems like every other month. Or partial bunk scripts mixed in with ones that work. (can taste difference)

"Everyone (like us) usually has an opinion on what brand generic they like for their Rx meds, but even if you get stuck with a brand you dont like, it still works. I prefer the malli roxis, but will still take the A215s/k9s with great results.

With a quick google search, you will find ALLL sorts of discussion recently about this, so i was suprised to not find one here recently. You can see some of these generic adderall brands have been sued for QC issues, and all kinds of other stuff. But there seems to be a huge problem still.

For example, Corpharma Adderall (pink or orange, round with the + score for 1/4s) is known for - The speediest of all, or complete bunk. You can literally notice the difference in your script. I take as directed, except i snort it. So I can tell right away by taste if its going to be the normal speedy effect that someone normally gets from Adderall, or if its taste bitter its a bunk one. like bunk. fall asleep if you went and laid down, and you know thats not possible from an with the active ingredient one. I have had some success from the orange ones, but the pink ones i swear could be a secret placebo study.

These brands quality bounce around on what seems to be every couple months
-Corepharma
-Barr/Teva
-SANDOZ.

Adderall is already brutally expensive without a insurance, but I am sick of gambling and the real ones are obviously always on point."

Now I take my script normally, I don't snort them, but I am uninsured and had to switch from name brand xr's to whatever is cheapest (still over $100/month) Now I've been on adderall or generic for over 10 years now and a couple of years ago got the pink 30's and it was as if I was given a totally different drug- as if the active ingrediant was missing totally. Now I'm running into Teva/Barr doing the same thing! For the 4th time in the last several years I have received a "bad batch" since it is a schedule II substance I'm basically screwed for a month, as I can't trade them in for a different batch or get a new script. I can take them and be miserable or not take them and be miserable but I'm basically out a hundred bucks-AGAIN- and without proper medication for a month.

DOES ANYBODY KNOW OF SOME WAY TO FIX THIS??? Looking at internet posts it's a pretty widespread problem, does the FDA or whatever body that oversees the pharmaceutical industry just not care? This is not what I was prescribed or what I paid for; after daily use for over a decade I know when I've taken my medication and when I have not. This last batch of Barr 30's IS NOT a legitimate script. Theres no way for me to pay for the name brand, which I know will be the same every time, but these bad batches screw up my life; they hurt work, relationships, my overall well being, my financial situation, and the pharmacist simply says 'well those are what you were prescribed,can't do anything about it" why can they not take back what I have remaining and send them back to the manufacturer and give me a different batch? It's total BS!!!!!



I was taking adderall for years, took a year off, and very recently got back on it. I had an absolutely horrid experience with some Teva generic adderall, and by sheer luck it occurred to me that the manufacturer might have been at fault. I got Sandoz with my next script and the difference between the two was just staggering. It's like two different medications. Neither one was effective at treating the ADD though.


This is the first time I'd noticed a difference from one bottle to the next. I'm sure from 2008-2010 I'd been on a bunch of different manufacturers and never even noticed. For YEARS I never had an unusual experience or reaction, and now within two months I've had two equally bad batches that were enormously different from one another.


How long has this been going on? How long have you been taking adderall and how long ago did you start to notice that it was different from batch to batch?

Ashlynn
10-13-13, 02:08 AM
Two months ago I got a bottle of Teva generic IR adderall. I've never reacted to a medication so badly before. Intense "eyeball headaches" that got worse throughout the day, a feeling of pressure in my head and especially in and behind my eyes, feeling spacey, increased ADD symptoms, intense impatience and irritability, getting angry over things like TV noise, intense nausea.


In 2008-2010 I had consistent experiences, and likely received multiple different manufacturers over that frame of time. My experiences were so consistently positive that the manufacturer never even came to my attention.


This month I've got Sandoz generic IR adderall. This stuff isn't treating my ADD symptoms either, but the side effects are significantly less intense than they were on the Teva stuff. Mild headaches, intense irritability during comedown (I've never had a comedown from adderall before), and I feel less creative/eloquent. I find myself searching for 'the right word' a lot. Better than Teva, but honestly, no benefits at all. Don't feel well.


I'm ****** off that this stuff came out of a professional lab. This isn't acceptable at all.

EmotionalMess
10-16-13, 01:52 PM
Okay, I've been taking 20mg generic adderall for 3 years. According to the list, this would be the Barr ( Teva) brand, orange/ peach oval. Today I was side swiped that they had given me a pink pill with cor 135 on it. I almost immedialty turned around to get it swapped, thinking they had given me the wrong meds. Then I looked it up and it was indeed adderall.. So I didn't.. I have been trying find some info on this. But now I have realized that this is a CorePharma pill, but the mfg. distinctly says TEVA U. What are some distinct side effect differences in the 2? Should I look at different generic, go brand name, go back or what? I need some pros and cons... Thanks

greenjay
10-19-13, 09:59 PM
Okay, I've been taking 20mg generic adderall for 3 years. According to the list, this would be the Barr ( Teva) brand, orange/ peach oval. Today I was side swiped that they had given me a pink pill with cor 135 on it. I almost immedialty turned around to get it swapped, thinking they had given me the wrong meds. Then I looked it up and it was indeed adderall.. So I didn't.. I have been trying find some info on this. But now I have realized that this is a CorePharma pill, but the mfg. distinctly says TEVA U. What are some distinct side effect differences in the 2? Should I look at different generic, go brand name, go back or what? I need some pros and cons... Thanks

emotionalmess, I have a similar problem. I've been taking Adderall (not IR) for 9 years, same dose, 40 mg in a.m.. I always took Barr for most of those years, then it became Teva and never had one side effect for 9 years. Until last year, I was given Corepharma's bright hot pink round pill, and the pounding headache and dull brain and rapid heartbeat almost had me at the E.R. but I had no insurance, so I toughed it out that night. BTW, it had no effectiveness as a stimulent, it did nothing except it felt like it was killing me. I tried to return them to the pharmacy the next day, but to no avail. These adderall generics are a huge problem because the quality IS all over the place. I threw them out and my doctor was good enough to write a new prescription that month (last year). Then I had the pharmacist write in my file "BARR or TEVA ONLY!" All was well until this last batch of Teva, same pounding headache that NOTHING will touch.

If anyone knows of anything that gets rid of or reduces this pounding headache, PLEASE POST here what it is! :eek:

I was surprised to read that everyone has different results with the different generic adderall's. Some LIKE Corepharma, some like Sandoz, some like Barr/Teva, or is there still a BARR out there? My pharmacist says no. Sandoz was terrible too for me, I got the pharmacy to take it back, but that was only because they had written in my file "Barr or Teva only". So glad I had that written in there.
Something very bad is going on in the generic adderall situation, anyone else having problems? I think every bad batch should be reported to the FDA with that link I saw someone posted somewhere. I can't get this topic to show by date order, weird.


Does anyone know if Barr is still making adderall? The Teva I got 2 weeks ago is BAD. Maybe it was a mixed batch, because it was ok until 2 days ago when the pounding headache returned. I would give up adderall if there is none made that is clean, quality ingredients in the exact proportions of the name brand. The brand name is no longer made, is that correct?
If I can't find adderall comparable in quality and consistency to the original formulation of the name brand, I'll have to get a stimulent in it's place, because I don't get out of bed period without adderall. I would become super depressed and suicidal and cry all day. Adderall works like an anti-depressant for me, no A-D works at all for me.

Any suggestions as to what medication does the same thing in the brain as adderall does?

greenjay
10-19-13, 10:33 PM
Ashlynn, I'm having the same problem this month. I've been on adderall 40 mg for 9 years. First problem last year COREPHARMA brand generic, almost had me in the E.R.
Is there still a name brand being made? I was told by the pharmacist that the patent expired, and there is no name brand anymore, just all these (pathetic excuses) for generics. I stuck with Barr, then was told there was no more Barr, it became Teva, is that true? The last Teva from this month gave me a pounding headache that was disabling and no medication seems to have any affect on reducing this headache.
I'm very worried because this medication is crucial to me. It has made all the difference in the world in my life.

MattMa
10-23-13, 07:34 PM
To those people who are getting pounding headaches drink a caffeinated soda or coffee! That is the quickest way to get over the migraine!

I tried the Corpharma 10mg initially and to be honest didn't really feel much but I read here that me drinking coffee could be interfering with my medication. Well I tried that and felt hungover with a crazy migraine that no headache meds would touch. Once I drank something with caffeine bingo no headache!

Now I'm on teva 20mg and to be honest I still am really not feeling anything!

My doctor also put me on 150mg of wellburtrin but from what he said I won't know a difference from that for two weeks.

daedelvis
12-13-13, 07:35 AM
I'm back on the Sandoz hunt after having a relatively consistent supply from an actual knowledgeable and caring Pharmacist who would order it for me. She got hired away to a Beverly Hills Pharmacy that somehow gets away with selling everything at top retail price. I have not found any place that has the Sandoz 30mg consistently. Now every two months I spend a day or more driving around from Pharmacy to Pharmacy

Of all the boards that have a similar Generic Adderall discussion, this is my favorite and I'll ask you good folks who have been online recently:

1. Is there a site or a forum here or anywhere that tracks where certain brands are available? I'd be happy to post when and where I find Adderall available.

2. I'm in California. Anyone know of any place that gets Sandoz regularly or even sometimes? The only place I've found it sometimes is CVS and of the roughly 30 different pharmacies I visit, I'm told that the distributor brings them Sandoz or Teva/Barr and they have no control over it.

Thanks and stay focused!

miltonfriedman
12-26-13, 10:18 PM
None chain pharmacies, ie. mom & pop places are your best bet.

About sandoz...

Has anyone felt a huge change in how well Sandoz adderall IR works. I've been taking adderall for years, so I know it very well. The new Sandoz (coincidentally, the pills manufactured AFTER the drug "shortage of 2012) look bluer, with a shinier coating, and the ARE NOW AWFULL! anxiety and nausea inducing poison. This is very sad, Sandoz used to be the holy grail of adderall. Am I crazy, or has anyone experienced this, it's like day and night between the old sandoz and the new batches of sandoz... has it been reformulated???

liveandletdie
12-28-13, 05:52 PM
I was wondering whether anyone takes the corepharma or core pharma however you say their name....IR generics...I am possibly going to add them to my medications however I have not had good results with barr/teva.....

Anyone have success with this brand? (did a search but couldn't find anything)

liveandletdie
01-16-14, 12:30 AM
So my psych and I went with 25mg XR morning + 10mg IR in afternoon/night..i actually got the Sandoz version, was a little worried given that it was not the same look as before (shiny?) but seemed to work decent no weird stuff...they did not have the core pharm in stock but said they regularly carry the Sandoz brand.

KiminFL
01-20-14, 11:40 AM
New here - but have been taking generic Adderall for 10 years. From what I can remember, I think I've always taken the Barr/Teva brand (orange footballs, I like to call them).. However - the last couple of years, I have noticed a real difference in the effectiveness of my meds. They just don't work like they used to. I've read through most of this thread -- so I am wondering if my issue is the MEDICATION itself (changing formulas/bad batches, etc. ).

My doctor obviously isn't aware of these issues - because all that he's done over the past 3 years is increase the dosage -- which didn't help at all.

I'm wondering if I should try to switch to the Sandoz version -- a quick google search earlier, has "everyone" saying that Sandoz is far better than the Teva...

Any updates on all of this info and/or advice?

Thanks :)

MissMoni
02-03-14, 01:47 AM
I'm back on the Sandoz hunt after having a relatively consistent supply from an actual knowledgeable and caring Pharmacist who would order it for me. She got hired away to a Beverly Hills Pharmacy that somehow gets away with selling everything at top retail price. I have not found any place that has the Sandoz 30mg consistently. Now every two months I spend a day or more driving around from Pharmacy to Pharmacy

Of all the boards that have a similar Generic Adderall discussion, this is my favorite and I'll ask you good folks who have been online recently:

1. Is there a site or a forum here or anywhere that tracks where certain brands are available? I'd be happy to post when and where I find Adderall available.

2. I'm in California. Anyone know of any place that gets Sandoz regularly or even sometimes? The only place I've found it sometimes is CVS and of the roughly 30 different pharmacies I visit, I'm told that the distributor brings them Sandoz or Teva/Barr and they have no control over it.

Thanks and stay focused!
Hello, I'm in California about 50 miles away. I always go to this Small Pharmacy called Bright Pharmacy. Check if there is one by you. Go to the small pharmacies. :-)

MissMoni
02-03-14, 01:48 AM
New here - but have been taking generic Adderall for 10 years. From what I can remember, I think I've always taken the Barr/Teva brand (orange footballs, I like to call them).. However - the last couple of years, I have noticed a real difference in the effectiveness of my meds. They just don't work like they used to. I've read through most of this thread -- so I am wondering if my issue is the MEDICATION itself (changing formulas/bad batches, etc. ).

My doctor obviously isn't aware of these issues - because all that he's done over the past 3 years is increase the dosage -- which didn't help at all.

I'm wondering if I should try to switch to the Sandoz version -- a quick google search earlier, has "everyone" saying that Sandoz is far better than the Teva...

Any updates on all of this info and/or advice?

Thanks :)


SANDOZ is the only one that lasts long.

dbellca82
02-04-14, 01:43 PM
I take the adderall 20mg instant release tablets & have been accustomed for past year or so to getting the Teva brand, which has some sachrin mixed in and they are slightly oval. These are very easy to break in half with no issue if I want to divide into 2 10's. Currently it seems the Teva's are not available therefore what is the replacement is the (mallinckrodt) white octagon pills. Normally I wouldn't have an issue put these put together quite poorly. You can't use a pill cutter or they will just disintegrate literally into piece, I had to call the pharmacist to tell me how to break into. Which still is hit or miss and never even & always jagged, powdered and the pill barely holding together. Hopefully teva comes back soon.

Here's pic of the Teva's & Mallinckrodt's

Teva's are the oval shaped orange/pinkish & Mallinckrodt's are the white

Arei
02-13-14, 01:25 AM
We're still getting Teva at my pharmacy, but I think that there currently is a shortage, yeah.

I had no idea the IR 20s had sachrin in them. Now I know why they probably made me so sick!

Babyd19
02-13-14, 08:11 AM
Did they tell you there is another shortage????

mollymae76
02-27-14, 01:19 PM
Maybe a shortage would explain why walmart switched to mallinckrodt instead which isn't cool. :(

den4
03-13-14, 06:14 PM
Sandoz gives me chest pain. Anyone else get this? I lowered the dose and same outcome.

mollymae76
03-18-14, 12:57 PM
So...updates from anyone? Where are you guys filling prescriptions now? What are you getting? I'm really looking forward to finishing these stupid, crumbly mallenkrodt ones.

adhd123456
03-31-14, 04:09 PM
patient should always start with lowest dose and observe adrs

ivycos1
04-05-14, 07:02 PM
I am very upset- i cannot find a pharmacy yet that will fill my prescription for generic adderal 20 mg. they look at me like a criminal. i take my medicine as prescribed. What can i do to get my prescription filled? I live in Florida. I am on SSI for ADHD and other conditions and am suffering without my medication

IUHoosierAlum
04-13-14, 02:48 AM
I'm in Illinois, but here I get my prescription filled at Target for the 20mg generic and I've never had an issue.

That said...since my dosage got switched to 20mg, the manufacturer switched from Teva to Corepharma...and ever since, I feel like it's not working much at all. I do notice that I feel more tired once the dosage wears off, but other than that, I've been much more distracted and unable to focus - as I was before I started taking Adderall! It is good to know I'm not the only one having issues with this particular generic. I think I'll try filling my next prescription elsewhere - somewhere that carries Teva, which worked well for me before - and see if that helps.

thething313
04-16-14, 06:06 PM
I am very upset- i cannot find a pharmacy yet that will fill my prescription for generic adderal 20 mg. they look at me like a criminal. i take my medicine as prescribed. What can i do to get my prescription filled? I live in Florida. I am on SSI for ADHD and other conditions and am suffering without my medication


That is a large problem that I had when i lived in FL. that upset me to no end. I personally am not a professional, however, I would think that it is against some kind of law for them to refuse your refill just because "they dont like it"....Not going to lie, there is not a single pharm tech or pharmacist that I dealt with in fla that I didnt want to hit in the face.

inbetweenshades
04-22-14, 01:43 PM
I'm still taking the Sandoz, 10 milligrams, but I'm down to one pharmacy in my area that will fill it. And it's VERY expensive for Adderall. The only difference that I have noticed of late is that sometimes, it makes me clench my jaw, which can cause pretty nasty headaches. Excedrine Migraine, (which is mostly caffeine and aspirin,) seems to fix that, but of course, you have to wait a bit to take it to avoid feeling over amped.

As for finding it, my doctor suggested calling Sandoz directly to find out where to get it, and I did that. However, they can only tell you which distributors they sell to, then you have to ask the pharmacy who their distributors are in order to find out who can order it, if they don't have it in stock. It's a pain, but it's worth it.
I imagine the same would hold true for any other brand. Contact the maker directly, and go from there.

And yes, I believe that Teva bought out Barr not too long ago, and I THINK Corr Pharma too, but I'm not 100% on that.

Traveler5
04-22-14, 03:45 PM
I take a generic Adderall by Core Pharma. I've tried San Doz and Teva before but prefer the Corepharma. I don't get the typical nasty side effects while on Corepharma. Also, the Corepharma pills split real nice.

johnymondoo
04-26-14, 01:53 PM
Does anyone have experience with the Actavis IR? I just got my refill today and was surprised to see they gave me a tablet I've never seen before. I've used this same pharmacy for almost 2 years and they've been very consistent (always had BARR until about 4 months ago when they started carrying SANDOZ)

There's tons of reviews the Actavis XR (mostly negative) but I cant find anything about the IR version. I'd just like to have an idea of what I'm in for.

Here's what they looks like:
http://i.imgur.com/aTLOV9f.jpg?1

mollymae76
05-12-14, 09:35 AM
Does anyone have experience with the Actavis IR? I just got my refill today and was surprised to see they gave me a tablet I've never seen before. I've used this same pharmacy for almost 2 years and they've been very consistent (always had BARR until about 4 months ago when they started carrying SANDOZ)

There's tons of reviews the Actavis XR (mostly negative) but I cant find anything about the IR version. I'd just like to have an idea of what I'm in for.

Here's what they looks like:
http://i.imgur.com/aTLOV9f.jpg?1

Wondering how these bad boys are working out for ya?

TheSacredTree
06-02-14, 05:28 PM
Does anyone know what could've been my problem here;
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162522

It was on the Barr 10mg IR tabs. Should i just give it another try although it hurt insanely bad or is it a common problem with the Barrs and i should just switch to a new brand?

amilertxundi
06-05-14, 10:13 PM
See, reading this, I'm wondering how exactly I can get my refill a CorePharma refill instead of the Barr/Teva refill. I notice a TOTAL difference. I used to get a sort of... kick in the pants, like the medication telling my brain, "HEY. YOU. LISTEN UP. PAY ATTENTION. WORK TO DO." The other is just... ugh.

sarahsweets
06-06-14, 04:20 AM
Pharmacists can order whatever brand you want. You just have to talk to them, You may have to wait longer between refills or at least keep doing this every month until your pharmacist realizes you are going to request this every time and decided to order it before you request it each month.

See, reading this, I'm wondering how exactly I can get my refill a CorePharma refill instead of the Barr/Teva refill. I notice a TOTAL difference. I used to get a sort of... kick in the pants, like the medication telling my brain, "HEY. YOU. LISTEN UP. PAY ATTENTION. WORK TO DO." The other is just... ugh.

mollymae76
06-06-14, 10:10 AM
See, reading this, I'm wondering how exactly I can get my refill a CorePharma refill instead of the Barr/Teva refill. I notice a TOTAL difference. I used to get a sort of... kick in the pants, like the medication telling my brain, "HEY. YOU. LISTEN UP. PAY ATTENTION. WORK TO DO." The other is just... ugh.

I know how you feel wanting to try a different generic. Don't get your heart too set on one special, magical brand. I made that mistake with wanting to try sandoz last month. I made it my mission to track that ish down and it's definitely NOT the Holy Grail of alert productivity for me.

Made me want Teva (orange footballs) back. Anyway- costco has corepharma so now I wanna try that. I'm thinking a huge part of this is all my head at this point. Exercise to saturate my blood with oxygen and diet are probably more key than a particular generic. Might be wrong though.

I can be guilty of overthinking. Duh... LOL

BlackWarrior
06-10-14, 09:07 PM
Can anyone point me to a pharmacy that has 20mg adderall IR by barr in the Los Angeles area? I usually get mine filled from rite aid but they've had warehouse issues for the last 3 months.

adhdicted
06-13-14, 03:49 AM
Looking for Sandoz in San Diego. I've been doing great on Teva but my last fill was December. I just went to cvs for a fill and they had to order so I'm concerned on what I'll be getting. Seems like there's no consistency at all with any of the generics. So what is the hot brand this month?

mollymae76
06-16-14, 03:12 PM
Looking for Sandoz in San Diego. I've been doing great on Teva but my last fill was December. I just went to cvs for a fill and they had to order so I'm concerned on what I'll be getting. Seems like there's no consistency at all with any of the generics. So what is the hot brand this month?
I tried Sandoz last month and honestly, it was not anything special. I've gone back to Teva this month. I think the ease of splitting appeals to me and I feel that they work great. Sandoz just didn't have any kick to me...which right or wrong, I need for motivation to get moving. Once I'm moving I'm good. Just very subtle onset I think with Sandoz and it didn't seem longer lasting. I've only not tried Corpharma now!

CosmicDave
06-19-14, 05:50 PM
I tried Sandoz last month and honestly, it was not anything special. I've gone back to Teva this month. I think the ease of splitting appeals to me and I feel that they work great. Sandoz just didn't have any kick to me...which right or wrong, I need for motivation to get moving. Once I'm moving I'm good. Just very subtle onset I think with Sandoz and it didn't seem longer lasting. I've only not tried Corpharma now!

It's all about how the drug crosses the blood brain barrier. Everyone is different however for some people Sandoz works a lot better and I believe that is due to the fact that Sandoz has less Inactive ingredients(Fillers/Binders). The biggest thing I've noticed is that the size of the pill has seemed to have a huge impact on the Therapeutic value. My Doc and I have upped my Addy dose three times,

10mg Barr's from Walgreens > 15mg Teva's from Target > 20mg Barr's from WG's

Now it could be that Target has a supplier that has a stricter QC but my theory is that the amount of filler/binder affects the TV of the drug.

15mg Teva's are 3x smaller than 10mg Barr's (20mg Barr's are the same size as 10's)

It makes no sense why a 10mg dose of a drug would be in a larger tablet than 15mg.

With Generic's the best thing you can do is sample around because it could be all in your mind or it could be the inactive ingredients, that's something you have to answer for yourself

wonderboy
06-20-14, 08:36 PM
Concerning the "quality" of Corepharma as a company, how I wish
more people would read this, an official FDA Warning letter to them

http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/ucm221615.htm

wonderboy
06-21-14, 09:02 AM
What about this new generic for Adderall IR? from Mallinckrodt? I have been taking Adderall IR for years and never been given this brand. I think it is very weak. Horrible. Any thoughts?

RJV1989
06-29-14, 10:16 PM
I recently got my generic Adderall refill...the Corepharma 10mg IR...just horrible quality compared the Barr. Love the Barr brand. Anyone else have bad results with Corepharma?

Cracker
07-05-14, 05:36 AM
What about this new generic for Adderall IR? from Mallinckrodt? I have been taking Adderall IR for years and never been given this brand. I think it is very weak. Horrible. Any thoughts?

I too have been taking adderall for a very long time 14 Years In all that time I have only had one other generic besides the original Sandoz E404 that haven't been seen here for several years. At first I thought the large Pink CorPharma 30mg which I recieved on three occasions from Wal-greens Were those original best affect on treatment, But on all three occasions the ill affects were so strong I reported it to the Pharmacist They were very Harsh acting and more reminiscent of Bathtub Crank than Adderall. They made me jittery and caused me to grind my teeth Like I did when I was accidentally dosed with a coffee pot laced with meth and stayed up 4 days back in 94.

Today I opened a Fresh script from walmart after doing the redicules dance they force us to in Florida now. (My Doctor is 60 miles away in the city I lived in for 10 years and still work in. My work is just accross the river from my Dr. 15 miles However Now because of some stupid Zone policy I can only fill my prescription near my Dr. office or in my resident city 60 iles away But I can't drop it off at the one near my workplace, God forbid I need to stay at the Colorado site more than a month errrgh.) I digress.
The first thought was they had misfilled but upon doing a search I found that I too had been given Mallinckrodt's little bitter dust buster octa-crap and proceeded to split it as I always do with the normal orange Barr / Teva I have grown adjusted to. I exploded in my teeth as I went to crack it as I normally would the oval Barr/Teva it exploded into a mess.
I can't make a judgment just yet on its effectiveness but I am leary of any changes, the chemist don't seem to appreciate the important subtle differences in the formula and from my reading no one in the drug chain appreciates the without hyperactivity diagnoses.

mentalfloss
07-14-14, 03:12 PM
I recently got my generic Adderall refill...the Corepharma 10mg IR...just horrible quality compared the Barr. Love the Barr brand. Anyone else have bad results with Corepharma?

The exact same thing happened to me a few months ago. I was used to Barr/Teva and preferred it over other generic Adderall IR tablets. There had been a couple of times where all I could find were either Sandoz or Corepharma and I told my pharmacy to put in my profile that those two generics did not agree with me whatsoever. Well, a few months ago I didn't have any choice but to settle for Corepharma because none of the pharmacies within a 20 mile radius had anything else. At first I was really mad about it and I was also feeling certain side effects from the Corepharma, like headaches, nausea, hunger pangs, and the feeling that I was taking something besides Adderall. However, after a couple of weeks I got used to the Corepharma tabs. I don't know how to explain it but one day the side effects I was experiencing before went away.

My regular pharmacy stayed with the Corepharma tabs for a few months and I didn't mind. However, just last Thursday, the 10th, I went to the doctor and got a refill. I took it to my pharmacy and after one of the pharmacists filled it he said, "There are two different looking pills in there but they are the same thing so don't worry." I knew exactly what he meant. They had switched back to Barr/Teva but still had some Corepharma left. Before the girl could ring me up one of the other pharmacists remembered my preference for Barr/Teva and asked to see the bottle. She then took out any Corepharma tabs and made the whole script Barr/Teva tabs. After I got home, I took one of the Barr/Teva tabs and nothing. Well, not much anyway. Now the Barr/Teva tabs feel weak just like the Corepharma tabs did when I first started on them! I wish the 2nd pharmacist had left some of the Corepharma tabs in there.

I have never in my life been able to tell such a difference between generic prescription drugs. Back when I took opiates, any differences between generic companies wasn't noticeable, at least not to me. The same goes for generic Diazepam. My pharmacy has to use a different generic Diazepam every now and then and they're all the same to me. It's both puzzling and frustrating at the same time.

So if you have to stay on the Corepharma, give it time and it should get better. It did with me.

mentalfloss
07-14-14, 04:25 PM
I doubt that my doctor will agree that there's a huge difference in the chemical make up of different generics.
Isn't it frustrating when someone who's supposed to be a medical expert, like a doctor, thinks you're delusional or full of crap when you tell them something that you know without a doubt to be true? You said your pharmacist was a little more understanding about it. That's good because I've had a lot of pharmacists tell me, "This generic pill has the same amount of the active ingredient as that generic pill," as if I were a little 5-yr old kid.

Things like that always remind me of the Seinfeld episode where George gets mad at a doctor and starts calling her a "delicate genius." Classic!

Good luck to you...

BlackWarrior
07-14-14, 07:00 PM
The exact same thing happened to me a few months ago. I was used to Barr/Teva and preferred it over other generic Adderall IR tablets. There had been a couple of times where all I could find were either Sandoz or Corepharma and I told my pharmacy to put in my profile that those two generics did not agree with me whatsoever. Well, a few months ago I didn't have any choice but to settle for Corepharma because none of the pharmacies within a 20 mile radius had anything else. At first I was really mad about it and I was also feeling certain side effects from the Corepharma, like headaches, nausea, hunger pangs, and the feeling that I was taking something besides Adderall. However, after a couple of weeks I got used to the Corepharma tabs. I don't know how to explain it but one day the side effects I was experiencing before went away.

My regular pharmacy stayed with the Corepharma tabs for a few months and I didn't mind. However, just last Thursday, the 10th, I went to the doctor and got a refill. I took it to my pharmacy and after one of the pharmacists filled it he said, "There are two different looking pills in there but they are the same thing so don't worry." I knew exactly what he meant. They had switched back to Barr/Teva but still had some Corepharma left. Before the girl could ring me up one of the other pharmacists remembered my preference for Barr/Teva and asked to see the bottle. She then took out any Corepharma tabs and made the whole script Barr/Teva tabs. After I got home, I took one of the Barr/Teva tabs and nothing. Well, not much anyway. Now the Barr/Teva tabs feel weak just like the Corepharma tabs did when I first started on them! I wish the 2nd pharmacist had left some of the Corepharma tabs in there..

So if you have to stay on the Corepharma, give it time and it should get better. It did with me.
I have a very similar experience. I switched to Corepharma for a month, experienced a lot of side effects for a few days and it was smooth sailing from there. For this month, I switched back to teva/barr and it is indeed feeling "weaker" it definitely does not last as long as it used to.

mentalfloss
07-15-14, 11:18 AM
For this month, I switched back to teva/barr and it is indeed feeling "weaker" it definitely does not last as long as it used to.
How many days ago did you get the Teva? The reason I ask is, today, six days after getting my Teva script filled, I'm finally feeling the effects like I'm supposed to. So, hopefully after a few days you will adjust to the Teva too.

I even called my pharmacist yesterday after reading a bunch of posts in this forum. I wanted to know if they had any remaining 30mg Corepharma tablets, and if they did could I exchange my Teva for their Corepharma-one for one. Well, they couldn't do that. I found out that they switched to Teva only because their distributor, or whatever, was out of Corepharma tabs. I think I prefer Teva, but after talking with my pharmacist yesterday she probably thinks I prefer Corepharma. Oh well... I just wish there wasn't such a noticeable difference between generics and I wish I didn't need almost a week to get adjusted to a different generic.

Good luck to ya...

giammatti66
08-30-14, 11:02 PM
I have been taking amphetamine salts for 7 years now. I was horrified when I was given the Mallinkrodt. These white pills that you cannot break apart is the last of my concern. They do not work and they give me a headache. There is a reason they are cheaper. WALMART PLEASE STOP Carrying this brand! It is ineffective. It is probably a placebo experiment spearheaded by the DEA. They are no good. They also say
dextroamphetamine


on my script, when it has always said Amphetamine Salts. I hope they remove them from the shelf. It was a real miserable day until I was able to get them replaced by the Teva Barr brand. Orange Oval' s that say 30 actually work.Those are the best. I would pay twice as much, because they work at least a 100% better.

violachick93
09-03-14, 11:03 AM
I was diagnosed with ADD a little over a year ago and am on 20mg IR. I, like many people, have had problems with Corepharma when my pharmacy recently switched. I was previously on Teva generic (orange ovals) with no problems. The Corepharma gives me anxiety and make me feel jittery.
I thought I was going crazy and that no one would believe that Corepharma was different than Teva but then I found this and other forums. Thanks everyone for confirming that it's not all in my head.