View Full Version : Is there an anti anxiety med that doesn't make you tired


brintiff
05-17-10, 07:15 PM
Doc prescribed me Clonazepam for use as needed when I get extreme anxiety, I hate it. It made me feel like crap and all I wanted to do was sleep and it was not a restful sleep. Is there an anxiety drug that mellows you out but that doesn't make you feel comatose? I have never taken any other anti anxiety meds besides Temazepam for sleep. I take Aderall for ADHD. I realize people act differently to meds, just trying to get some ideas. I can't see my doc until three weeks so I have time to do some research. He knows I research my meds online and I also have somewhat of a medical background so I think he'll be cool if I ask to try a certain med. What does xanex "feel" like?

I'd love to feel like when I was first prescribed opiates for my back issues but I realize that's not going to happen, well at least not legally and I won't do anything illegal or go to a "pill mill".

If only they allowed opiates to be prescribed for depression and anxiety :D
Relax, I'm joking, well at least partially, the whole tolerance thing would quickly negate there advantage.

APSJ
05-17-10, 07:36 PM
I don't get that effect from clonazepam, and have been taking it for a long time, but know someone else who does, and also found it impaired his memory. He switched to diazepam (valium) and found it didn't have these side effects.

There are also a number of antidepressants that help with anxiety. I take mirtazapine for depression and anxiety, and it does help with both, but if you're looking for quick acting medications, I'm not familiar with any other than the benzodiazapenes that are prescribed these days.

brintiff
05-18-10, 12:07 AM
APSJ, thank you for the reply.

A friend of mine who has the same meds and condition (ADHD) who's been on the meds for a few months may have solved my problem. He told me to combine the adderall and clonazepam so I tried it. I thought that one would cancel out the other, sounds logical but I guess when it comes to the brains chemical reactions nothing is logical. I took 10mg adderall and 1mg of clonazepam and I feel outstanding. Not high but just in a good mood, with energy and no anxiety. I'm only posting this in case someone else has the same issue as I did. OBVIOUSLY we are all different and I would not recommend doing anything without your doctors advice. My doc is a real cool guy and gives me some leeway with mt meds within reason of course.

meridian
05-18-10, 12:54 AM
I take a 0.25mg clonazepam orally disintegrating tablet if I am stressed. Happens really rarely since being on Strattera.

It never made me sleepy.

I take 0.5mg at bedtime which helps me sleep.

netsavy006
05-19-10, 03:05 PM
The other antianxiety agents that I know of that you could look up are:
Xanax
Xanax XR
Ativan
and Valium

Good Luck.
Andy...

Nick
05-22-10, 12:22 AM
I think klonopin is awesome. This is my experience with it:

It lasts forever. I can get away with taking it once a day. There are even times I haven't taken it for a few days. When I do want to take it, there isn't usually a pressing need to take it. Meaning, I don't feel the best, but if i did not take it, it would be ok. I just know that it works, and it would be good for me.

It's very subtle. I get no "high" feeling or sedation from it. I have experimented with the doses. The most I took in a night was 2mg, and noticed no difference from when I took a low dose.

My memory and everything else is pretty much normal while on it. Basically, when taking klonopin, I am me, just without the anxiety.

It has a real slow and subtle effect. I don't even feel it working, but it is working.

For instance, I took klonopin one time recently before a very stressful and confrontational meeting, and I was so calm, cool, and collected that I was indestructible under the pressure. I was so good, the other person was getting messed up because I wasn't responding to their rapid energy. When you're the calm one, you're in control. In situations like these, you realize how well klonopin works. If I wasn't in a stressful situation like that, I wouldn't even notice it working, but if you somehow find yourself in a stressful situation, it steps up for you.

I find that low doses work quite well. I usually take a .5mg, and that dose the trick. Sometimes I take .25, more as a maintenance dose. I sometimes take 1mg, but I think this is only good for when you need some really solid coverage. Generally, for most of the time, I think .5mg is the perfect dose. At doses more than 1mg, I have not noticed any difference.

I have had a beer or two on klonopin, and I found that the effects of alcohol are greatly increased. Before one beer would not even give me a buzz, but with klonopin, I got a heavy buzz. Not drunk or anything, but there was a strong effect. One time, I drank like 4-5 beers quickly, and had a low dose of klonopin in my system, and I ended up feeling pretty spaced out, and got a pretty bad headache, and I did not feel so great. I wouldn't recommend drinking on klonopin, beyond one or two drinks.

I also find it does nothing for me as a sleep aid. I have taken it before bed, and it does nothing. A lot of people take it for sleep, but it doesn't work that way for me.

The key to this medication, is that you don't feel it working, but it works. It's subtle, yet very powerful.

People make the mistake with this medication thinking they're supposed to feel something, like an instant relief or a buzz, and some people feel that. When they don't get that, or that feeling goes away, they assume it is not working anymore, then either raise the dose, or claim the medication sucks, and switch to something else.

I think this is actually a very potent medication, and that it is best taken in small doses. The reason why I say that is because it is so subtle, you don't even realize it is working, and people can casually take more without realizing how effective the small dose actually is for them.

To the original poster, it was probably making you tired if you were taking 1mg at a time. It all really depends on your schedule and the dose. This thing has a long half life, and builds up in your system to high doses, even if you take a small dose every day. So if you are taking 1mg pills every day or even a few times a week, it might build up to a heavy level, which kind of sinks you down.

I would try a low dose, but consistently every day, and then you'll have your anxiety coverage without getting side effects.


Now there's also a lot of stuff on the internet about klonopin being hard to get off, and it having a terrible withdrawal etc. I've done a lot of research and I don't really know what to think.

I have read a lot of people say it was a nightmare and their life is destroyed etc, and then I read a lot of people have no withdrawal at all, or they come off it pretty easily. I think there are a lot of hypochondriacs on the internet, but I do believe that people can have problems from coming off klonopin. However, I think it's best not to read about other people's stories because it usually poisons your mind. Ignorance can be bliss in these sorts of situations.

I think the people who abuse klonopin, or take it in really large doses are the ones who have problems coming off. But I think people who take lower, steady doses off it, who taper off it when they come off, are probably fine.

I have not suffered any withdrawal symptoms, except for one time, and I am not even sure it was the klonopin that was responsible. I felt completely like out of my head, like my brain was empty, all day. And I went into a store, and they had big bright lights in the ceiling, and I looked up, and the bright light was so powerful, that it totally messed up my vision, and when I looked away, I could still see the light in my vision. And then I walked up to the register and was paying, and the vision in my left eye was blurry, and it was like I had no peripheral vision on that side, and I started to have anxiety over it, and I thought something bad was happening. Like I might have a seizure or pass out or something. It was really weird.

I think this happened after I didn't take klonopin for a few days, but I was also adjusting my Lexapro dosage, and it could have also been aggravated by my naturally high anxiety state. But, that's one weird story, but luckily it's all I have.

Generally, I think klonopin is a fantastic medication. I have only been taking it for a few months, but I love it, and I wish I had this medication many years ago. It would have done me a lot of good. I have no issues with tolerance either. But I think it's very good to mess around with the doses if possible. Try to raise it and then lower it for a few days or a week.

I have tried Ativan: horrible for me. Doesn't work with my chemistry at all. Made me have weird visual hallucination type things the very first time I took it. Then when I took it a few years later, it made me feel like crap, and I couldn't think on it. And I got all sorts of weird withdrawal symptoms, even after taking a random dose of it. It was as if it was really suppressing something inside my brain so well, that when it wore off, my brain went into crazy mode. So, I hate Ativan, and won't ever take it again.

I have tried Xanax: Xanax is great. The first time I took it, it worked quickly and packed a punch, and I felt good taking it. However, it appeared like tolerance rose rapidly. The second time I got a prescription for it, I got Mylan generic, and I never even noticed it working. Took .5, then 1mg, then 2mg, and got pretty much nothing off of it.

But generally, the first time I took Xanax, although it was a brief time (120, .25mg pills over the course of probably 2 months), it worked fantastically.

However, looking back on it, I don't think that is the best medication for anxiety. Why? Because you get a great feeling off it, and you want to take more and more of it. And it is too strong. You feel like you're on a drug, and that's not what you want to be on if you have anxiety and need a medication that helps make you function.

So I love klonopin, and in my experience, it's the best benzo around. I love it and would recommend it to anyone with a true anxiety issue. Hopefully it continues to work the same way in the future, and I will still be happy with it.

Remember, small doses are still effective, even if you don't "feel" them.

meridian
05-22-10, 12:36 AM
I've been on Klonopin (generic clonazepam) for 2 years now. 0.5 mg an hour before bed. No adverse effects that I am aware of.

Has it aggravated the memory issues I was already having from AD/HD or simply pushing 60? I can't know that.

I was also prescribed 0.25 mg as needed but I've taken maybe one every other month on unusual days. And it helps.

Amtram
05-22-10, 09:52 AM
It's different for everyone. I take xanax specifically for sleep issues. Once my ADD medications wear off, my brain is too busy to fall asleep. I have a big problem if I wake up too late to take another one but too early to have gotten a good night's sleep, because it does make me pretty darn drowsy, even .25mg.

I tried withdrawing from it slowly, .25mg at a time for a week, and by the time I hit .25mg/day, I was miserable. Why? Not because the medication is awful, but because the anxiety it was treating was still there. Now that I've been on Aplenzin and Focalin for a couple of months, I'm generally taking .5mg before bed, and occasionally .25mg if I wake up before 4AM.

However. . .yeah, it makes me drowsy. I know some people who take it, both regularly and occasionally, and it doesn't do that to them. So, as always, YMMV. Just because an antianxiety med makes some people drowsy doesn't mean it'll make everyone drowsy. That's why it's good that there are different ones to choose from, right?

Josh_kelly
05-24-10, 08:21 PM
seroquel is a great medication for anxiety, and depression, and insomnia
i took klonopin. withdrawal and social anxiety was terrible (0.5 mg for one month)
seroquel does exactly the opposite to stimulants. shuts down dopamine, histamine, and NE
i only take it 2 hours before bed (its very sedating)
its not antidepressant so no need to titrated
and my doc told me that its not habit forming. when i dont take it takes me 3-4 hours more hours to sleep
its not in the xanax/klonopin category
but its great for me. mellows me down. sleep good.
and because of restful sleep, i dont need to increase my stim dose. when i sleep less i am more tired (obviously) and need more of the stim to control my adhd.
helps with appetite too. negates the appetite suppression of stims during the day.
klonopin has an advantage that you can take it in the day with stims. its causes little tiredness but its tolerable
seroquel is sedating. tranquilizer potency. i take 25 mg tab
people with bipolar take it at 200mg+
when i combined stims with klonopin. it was like a dream.
two weeks later nummm dull, and lazy with bad coordination
stopped it was hell. anxiety tripled, social anxiety when i had no social anxiety before
but after a week. i felt alive again.
individual results may vary see your doc for details

hollywood
05-24-10, 09:46 PM
I have social anxiety with ADHD and I am so sick of it. It's debilitating. Ssri s make it worse. I have no idea how to eliminate this. I am at my wits end with this. Wellbutrin helps my mixed depression alot, and stims help, but this is just part of the solution

AlexaN
05-24-10, 10:34 PM
Effexor XR did not make me tired at all.
75 mg is an anti anxiety dosage, 150 mg and on also works as an anti depressant.

hollywood
05-24-10, 11:17 PM
I think effexor or pristiq may be the answer , isn't cymbalta equally as stimulating? I get startup
anxiety, duh because I get so worried. Going to fix that

InfantryWifWhit
05-24-10, 11:32 PM
Wellbutrin! Be prepared it compliments adderall well so it may makes your adderall a tad stronger.

if you have these side effects under your current medication, I wouldn't not recommend trying anything like alaprozam (xanax) bc this med tends to have drowsiness as one of the main side effects

hope this helped :o)

hollywood
05-29-10, 10:50 PM
I take wellbutrin in combo with my stims its very helpful. I have tried adding cymbalta for worry and some physical anxiety and feelings of doubt it makes me feel like trash. I know only one week but I feel very demotivated. Not sure what to do.

tom2228
05-31-10, 03:51 AM
I have social anxiety with ADHD and I am so sick of it. It's debilitating. Ssri s make it worse. I have no idea how to eliminate this. I am at my wits end with this. Wellbutrin helps my mixed depression alot, and stims help, but this is just part of the solution

You could try Buspar

ChillMike04
05-31-10, 09:45 PM
i used to take xanax.
very affective for sleep, and worked pretty well for anxiety, especially with stims.
tolerance builds quickly though... want to try klonopin or lorazapam, see how they work.

doiadhd
05-31-10, 09:53 PM
When i had taken one of these it made me get a bit hyper...called 'citralapram' or similar,think the states call it something else...

I stopped after trying one....was like taking another drug,that makes people talk alot,actually,i could do with them back.

hollywood
06-01-10, 12:21 AM
Anyways I have some mood issues and anxiety with depression. I feel much happier with added serotonin, didn't realize it till I started cymbalta. Problem is that I can barely function at work while adjusting. Not sure what to do. I guess stick it out five or six weeks

Childe Roland
06-01-10, 01:57 PM
I hear you, Hollywood.

It sucks how Medications always have side effects. Stimulants practically cure (control) ADHD, but at the cost of anxiety. Personally, I can't be bothered to add an anti-anxiety pill that will probably cause further side effects. I find that meditation helps . . . somewhat. Please let me know if you find a suitable anti-anxiety pill to augment your ADHD medication without causing unbearable side effects.

hollywood
06-01-10, 03:29 PM
In the wrong life setting boredom can morph into a million beasts. I had to stop cymbalta, maybe I should keep pushing. Only I know what's under this mask, I know whatg I am capable of

hollywood
06-01-10, 05:17 PM
Man, I am hungry right now. Hard to focus when your hungry

DADHD
06-24-10, 09:00 PM
I tried serequil XR 25mg and it just plain knocked me out for about 24 hours. I'll never take it again. That was a tiny dose too. Klonopin lasts way too long for me as well. I get groggy the next day on it. Currently, the doc has me on xanax and it is awesome. I only take it when my anxiety kicks up. It kicks in very quickly and calms me down. Then it wears off by the time the stressful situation has passed. I take from .25-.5mg as needed. I also use it to help me sleep occasionally. Everyone is different when it comes to meds, that's for sure.

hollywood
06-24-10, 09:06 PM
Xanax is habit forming, there has to be something that counters anxiety and physical symptoms while taking Ritalin.

tom2228
06-25-10, 11:13 AM
Xanax is habit forming, there has to be something that counters anxiety and physical symptoms while taking Ritalin.

For a lot of people, alternatives to benzos are just not feasible, for whatever reason -- side-effects, not wanting to be on antidepressants, ineffectiveness, etc. Sometimes it gets to the point where you just gotta suck it up and go on something "habit-forming."


Better to live your life than to live in fear.


Also one could say that Ritalin is habit-forming too. This is not an issue for you because you don't abuse the meds, you use them properly to treat your condition and as a result you enjoy a higher quality of life.

If you have self-control and a genuine desire to enjoy an anxiety-free life rather than the anxiety pills themselves, and if you use them sensibly (as low doses as needed)... benzos are very safe medications.

I would venture to say that klonopin would be the least habit-forming because it lasts very long .. so you take it once a day usually. That way you're not popping pills all the time. Same concept as IR/XR stims.. obviously the IRs are most likely to become a habit.

I would say that Xanax is the most habit-forming of them all... tolerance can escalate quickly with daily dosing but I've ready of plenty who've used low doses of klonopin for years.

anxiety sucks

LifetimePI
07-21-10, 12:41 AM
Ive taken 2 mg klonopin per day for over 4 months, any am now tapering off because i didnt really feel anything.

it definatly didnt reduce anxiety, definatly didnt help wiht sleep problems (psych diagnosed with sleep probs/doctor with GAD) and definatly didndt make me sleepy

This was when i was just taking Klonopin, no stimulants

I figured since it was "addicting" i might as well get off, as i saw no benefit or change. The doctor of course said a increase in dose would make me a zombie which im like.. uhhh..nooo.. because i know myself and havent seen any benefits but w/e. So due to no effects i am tapering off since i dont wanna have psyical withdrawls for nothing!~!

I haven taken up to 6mg at a time, and still sometimes wont feel my dose.
My generic brand is TEVA (always get TEVA).. Do you use brand name maybe? What generic brand u guys use? Ive tried Caraco which are bad for sublingual use - which i perfer to take mine by and teva's taste goooder

-Ok reading my post a lil unfair, yea i guess i feel it but not the same at all as Xanax.. Xanax knocks me da F out. The difference between Xanax and Klonopin is like (Adderall and No Adderall/Treatment) So I do have to say im hypersensitivie to xanax and it totally knocks me in a daze ALL DAY, while 6 mg of klonopin doesnt have any desired or needed effects (5-10 percent at reducing anxiety i could say- while xanax is 70-80) and my klonopin has a longer half life.

So maybe ur just like me, but switched and you wont feel xanax, but u feel the klonopin. Have you tried xanax instead? have you tried Halcion or Dalmane (flurazepam). Those two are also less used, but definatly the same class for anti-anxiety. However, Halcion is actually a Hypnotic (like ambien the sleepy medication) but its used for anxiety, sleeping, relaxing prior to a MRI or Stressful Event etc.. but its worth a shot depending on when you take your medicine.

Nick
07-21-10, 06:02 AM
I use Teva clonazepam. I don't feel it if I take bigger doses either. But, it does work on my anxiety.

DADHD
07-21-10, 11:35 AM
Buprenorphine can be used in treatment resistant depression and anxiety. It's quite a powerful opiate mostly used in detoxing. Really the options available are quite extensive depending on what the doctor is comfortable with.

Killface1981
07-23-10, 03:13 PM
Well, Klonopin has been the best pill for anxiety for me so far. Xanax is good, but if you have an addictive personality it can get U-G-L-Y. The extended release are somewhat better, but still don't seem to last as long.

Valium works wonders, but you build up a tolerance really fast(well, I did.) Also psychs are somewhat hesitant to give Valium to anyone. They like giving Klonopin, Xanax, Ativan, and a few others(even got Temazepam for sleep while on Klonopin)which was a mistake. Both are benzos, and temazepam is really strong but didn't help me sleep like Ambien or even Lunesta. The doctor still claims it's a hypnotic, but it's actually a classic benzo that is the worst thing to give to someone with ADD and an alcohol problem.

I say go for Wellbutrin with Klonopin. When I was on both and Adderall, I seemed pretty well off. If I took out the Klonopin part of the cocktail, I'd go crazy with anxiety though. Everyone is diff when it comes to meds, but Klonopin seriously helps me. At first, I want to say I disliked it. Cause I switched for a while, and then went back to it when I realized it might be the best for me. Opiates are awesome, but that's why you shouldn't take them.

Valium won't make you feel as tired as other benzos, and the Xanax XR is quite strong. I've known so many people who got hooked to that since doctors were handing it out pretending it wasn't like normal Xanax. Some doctors hate when you research drugs, because it makes you look like a drug seeker... my psych is pretty cool too, but sometimes she'll look at me like I'm crazy for suggesting something.

RonRitalin
11-05-10, 11:56 AM
Hi, The benzos and the stimulants get undeserved bad press. They not only saved my sanity, unlike the antidepressants, their side-effects are minimal, again, unlike the antidepressants. The oldest benzo is also in my opinion the mildest and most underrated: Librium. It's very subtle, yet works very well. Good luck.

ReedtheStrange
02-20-11, 10:08 PM
All I can say is stay away from seroquel. Those pills will help your anxiety, but cause you to sleep 14 hours a day.

willinabox
02-28-11, 04:56 PM
quote of the day..."opiates are awesome, but thats why you shouldn't take them"

It looks like we didn't really come up with a solid answer here....sooo according everyone experience all anti-anxiety meds will have some sort of sedating effect.

I currently taking 5mg of lexapro, and I definitely feel a bit lethargic and lazy.

My doc is strongly suggesting against taking benzo's and adderall. With the lexapro I don't have any anxiety unless I take a stimulant. Stimulants however really help me in terms of focusing. I figured that a stimulant benzo-combination would really help me when I need to get work done.

hollywood
03-01-11, 10:16 AM
I kind of agree with you man and what has to be done needs to be done in some issues. I was thinking maybe a beta blocker may help. You may not get the elimination of the worry that an ssri would provide and the neuro assistance but the side effects may be alot less pronounced and it may give you the edge you need to forget about the worry and anxiety and get stuff done. Nothings perfect and even those with adhd have their vices although different. I am doing the lex too, low dose just like yourself. It's sedating just like you stated, but it kills anxiety on the spot. Strange I know, I am thinking over time lexapro and the fatigue have got to start fading. If I could get this lex benefit from worry and my repetitive thoughts without the fatigue then I'd be a beast. If I can just get there , eliminate the worry distracting and constant obsessing over my problems then I will pave the road to success myself.

fatality
04-05-11, 05:47 PM
Doc prescribed me Clonazepam for use as needed when I get extreme anxiety, I hate it. It made me feel like crap and all I wanted to do was sleep and it was not a restful sleep. Is there an anxiety drug that mellows you out but that doesn't make you feel comatose? I have never taken any other anti anxiety meds besides Temazepam for sleep. I take Aderall for ADHD. I realize people act differently to meds, just trying to get some ideas. I can't see my doc until three weeks so I have time to do some research. He knows I research my meds online and I also have somewhat of a medical background so I think he'll be cool if I ask to try a certain med. What does xanex "feel" like?

I'd love to feel like when I was first prescribed opiates for my back issues but I realize that's not going to happen, well at least not legally and I won't do anything illegal or go to a "pill mill".

If only they allowed opiates to be prescribed for depression and anxiety :D
Relax, I'm joking, well at least partially, the whole tolerance thing would quickly negate there advantage.

SSRI's / SSNRI's - certain kinds that have stimulating properties may be beneficial for you. Effexor treats my anxiety / depression while leaving me energized. In my opinion, klonopin wasn't that different than xanax - other than it was slightly stronger.

Trazadone is good for sleep in most people, doctors are more willing to perscribe it - as you can't abuse it, you'd get serotonin syndrome which most people try to avoid.

ecu20
04-21-11, 02:23 AM
Lyrica, or pregabalin, is a drug currently being used off label as a treatment for Anxiety disorders. It has had pretty good success at controlling anxiety, having a long duration of effect, and generally has less sedation and memory problems commonly experienced with benzos.

Most people that have had success with it say it's a godsend as having the ability to relieve anxiety without having to use benzos.