There has been deaths associated with the vaccine. Also life changing permanent illness.
It may not last, so if my daughter got the vaccine at 16 by the time she's 21 it may have no effect.
It's a personal choice I'm making and I just like to inform people to do the research before they get the vaccine for themselves or their child.
And it doesn't cover every strain of the virus.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/hpv/gardasil.html


http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases/hpv.aspx

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090209005358&newsLang=en

http://www.nvic.org/pdf/Tarsell-Report-Unexplained-Gardasil-Deaths.pdf

http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/631/9/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/06/eveningnews/main4781658.shtml

Ok ok. First of all, I did not know how common HPV is. I've heard from several sources that it is. However, it was scary as h*** for someone to report that on the very first date when made me consider if I could contract this thing.

Random fact: I don't know how ArtGypsy would know that I may have been exposed to it! I've never had sexual contact in my life.:rolleyes::p


LOL. Most people don't. Which is why I share the info when someone brings it up. Especially moms of pre-teen/teen girls who'd doctors are trying to get them to get the Gardasil Vaccine.

I bet it would - nice of her to tell you though....lol. That probably would have been something to save for a second date. Or maybe not. :p

Oohhhhh ok....well then...umm....guess your good to go! :D

I hate loud noises. It agitates me immensely hearing them.

Today is my oldest sons' birthday.He is 26yrs. old & tonight he is going to a casino.

There has been deaths associated with the vaccine. Also life changing permanent illness.
It may not last, so if my daughter got the vaccine at 16 by the time she's 21 it may have no effect.
It's a personal choice I'm making and I just like to inform people to do the research before they get the vaccine for themselves or their child.
And it doesn't cover every strain of the virus.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/vaccines/hpv/gardasil.html


http://www.nvic.org/Vaccines-and-Diseases/hpv.aspx

http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20090209005358&newsLang=en

http://www.nvic.org/pdf/Tarsell-Report-Unexplained-Gardasil-Deaths.pdf

http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/631/9/

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/06/eveningnews/main4781658.shtml

Just to put things into perspective... based on the cdc:

You run a risk of 0.056% to have some reaction to it. Reactions included in that tally of 0.056% risk are "fainting, pain, and swelling at the injection site (the arm), headache, nausea, and fever."

I'd imagine fainting and pain would be side effects with pretty much all vaccines.

The risk of having more than the above (having a "serious event") falls into the 0.0044% category, or 1 in ~22,700.

Driving a car in the US ~10,000 miles a year carries a risk of *death* at 1 in ~5,000-6,000.

The cdc site also makes the note "As with all VAERS reports, serious events may or may not have been caused by the vaccine."

So of 1 in 22,700 who had a serious event, you can't determine if the vaccine were even the cause or not.

It's also even noted As of February 14, 2011, there have been 61 VAERS reports of death among females who have received Gardasil. Thirty two of these reports have been confirmed and 29 remain unconfirmed due to no identifiable patient information in the report such as a name and contact information to confirm the report. A death report is confirmed (verified) after a medical doctor reviews the report and any associated records. In the 32 reports confirmed, there was no unusual pattern or clustering to the deaths that would suggest that they were caused by the vaccine and some reports indicated a cause of death unrelated to vaccination.

And

A major limitation of VAERS data is that there is no proven causal association between the vaccine and the adverse event. The only association is in time, meaning that the adverse event occurred sometime after vaccination. Therefore, we cannot conclude that the events reported to VAERS were caused by the vaccine.

It doesn't cover every strain, but it takes care of the primary ones that cause cervical cancer. Trying to lower the rate of cervical cancer is, from what I've been able to understand, the primary driving force behind getting this vaccine.

So if you are truly concerned about education of the risks of this vaccine as you indicated here: Reason I know all this is because of the new Gardasil vaccine. They want to give it to girls in their teenage years to prevent HPV. But it is not guaranteed to do so since there are so many strains. It is a risky vaccine that can do more damage than good. And knowing that your body can fight HPV itself, why take the chances of making your kid sick. (but that is all my opinion)

make sure you know more than just the stuff you hear from news sources. I find it a little concerning when you cite all the sources (which some are a few years old), and at least one of those sources clearly shows that the risk is at a minimum. You've said things like "it doesn't fight against all the strains of HPV. HPV is really common. Why do this when it's like other common infections we live with?" But you are missing the point that this fights against some of the HIGH-RISK strains of HPV. Even wiki has the info in the first few sentences Both vaccines protect against the two HPV types (HPV-16 and HPV-18) that cause 70% of cervical cancers, and cause some other genital cancers; Gardasil also protects against the two HPV types (HPV-6 and HPV-11) that cause 90% of genital warts. So it's not just about "not getting HPV".

I agree that it's a personal choice, but explaining everything involved and understanding both sides of the debate is crucial in making an informed decision.

And one last note about the Guillain-Barré syndrome

Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) has been reported after vaccination with Gardasil. GBS is a rare neurologic disorder that causes muscle weakness. It occurs in 1-2 out of every 100,000 people in their teens. A number of infections have been associated with GBS. There has been no indication that Gardasil increases the rate of GBS in girls and women above the rate expected in the general population, whether or not they were vaccinated.

Some of these things could very likely just have occurred at the same rate of the general population without having any actual causation relation to the vaccine. It'd be like getting the flu after changing the flavor of gum I had been chewing for the last 5 years. Perhaps the gum is at fault, but perhaps that was just in the timing of things.


Random Fact: I get carried away sometimes. Lol.

I hate loud noises. It agitates me immensely hearing them.

Same here!!!! I absolutely dislike loudness!! Always have.


(Welcome to the forum) :)

NorCalandy just cracked me up with that comment.


Dude, I almost caught myself listening to Asher Roth - I love college this morning

I've never been claustrophobic until recently. Probably actually not true claustrophobia but if my kids crowd around me too close, or even sit too close for too long, it drives me nuts. Same with my husband. Interesting now that I think about it. It sounds like I might need to talk to a doctor about it.

Dude, I almost caught myself listening to Asher Roth - I love college this morning

Pass out at three, wake up at ten, go out to eat, then do it again....:D

LOL. Most people don't. Which is why I share the info when someone brings it up. Especially moms of pre-teen/teen girls who'd doctors are trying to get them to get the Gardasil Vaccine.

My best friend told me that 1 out of 4 women have herpes and 1 out of 5 men have it too.

Not-so-random fact: I have no idea what an "NT" is, and I wish someone would explain it to me.

Perfectly random and valid. NT refers to neuro-typical, the opposite of an ADDer.

Just to put things into perspective... based on the cdc:

You run a risk of 0.056% to have some reaction to it. Reactions included in that tally of 0.056% risk are "fainting, pain, and swelling at the injection site (the arm), headache, nausea, and fever."

I'd imagine fainting and pain would be side effects with pretty much all vaccines.

The risk of having more than the above (having a "serious event") falls into the 0.0044% category, or 1 in ~22,700.

Driving a car in the US ~10,000 miles a year carries a risk of *death* at 1 in ~5,000-6,000.

The cdc site also makes the note "As with all VAERS reports, serious events may or may not have been caused by the vaccine."

So of 1 in 22,700 who had a serious event, you can't determine if the vaccine were even the cause or not.

It's also even noted

And



It doesn't cover every strain, but it takes care of the primary ones that cause cervical cancer. Trying to lower the rate of cervical cancer is, from what I've been able to understand, the primary driving force behind getting this vaccine.

So if you are truly concerned about education of the risks of this vaccine as you indicated here:

make sure you know more than just the stuff you hear from news sources. I find it a little concerning when you cite all the sources (which some are a few years old), and at least one of those sources clearly shows that the risk is at a minimum. You've said things like "it doesn't fight against all the strains of HPV. HPV is really common. Why do this when it's like other common infections we live with?" But you are missing the point that this fights against some of the HIGH-RISK strains of HPV. Even wiki has the info in the first few sentences So it's not just about "not getting HPV".

I agree that it's a personal choice, but explaining everything involved and understanding both sides of the debate is crucial in making an informed decision.

And one last note about the Guillain-Barré syndrome



Some of these things could very likely just have occurred at the same rate of the general population without having any actual causation relation to the vaccine. It'd be like getting the flu after changing the flavor of gum I had been chewing for the last 5 years. Perhaps the gum is at fault, but perhaps that was just in the timing of things.


Random Fact: I get carried away sometimes. Lol.


I am (was at the time also) on my laptop and don't have the links I have on my PC, so those were a quick go to.

The vaccine is too new and I have heard a lot of negative about it. A military wife friend - her daughter got VERY sick from it and she was out of school for almost 6 months because of it. Maybe there was something pre-existing in her daughter that caused a reaction. But that's something you don't know until it's too late.

I have done the research and weighed the pro's and con's for US and it's too risky, it's not a guarantee against HPV or the HPV that can cause cancer and not all cervical cancers (and such) are caused by HPV. Education and detection is a better choice for US.

Like I said - I just suggest people research it before just shooting something into their body because their doctor suggests to.

We also don't (my kids and I, my husband HAS too) - get the flu vaccine. It's also not a guarantee and it's my personal choice to do preventative maintenance with supplements instead. And knock on wood, there has been no flu to go through my house in years and when it did, it was very mild.

2 years ago my neighbor, who had been getting the flu shot regularly because she worked in a doctors office, died at 33 because of complications due to the flu. Now she didn't die as a result of the vaccine, but just because you get one doesn't mean it will help you.

(sorry I get carried away too sometimes, different message board discussion....lol. I don't have my resources available to back myself up right now and I hate typing on my laptop ;) )

I'm in the process of starting college (again), and I'm super stoked! http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4739/jig.gif

The vaccine is too new and I have heard a lot of negative about it. A military wife friend - her daughter got VERY sick from it and she was out of school for almost 6 months because of it. Maybe there was something pre-existing in her daughter that caused a reaction. But that's something you don't know until it's too late.

I merely based my claims on documented information from the CDC. I have heard many things many times where something has been blown way out of proportion. This is why maintaining a good perspective on a what's happening with the large population is important imo.


I have done the research and weighed the pro's and con's for US and it's too risky, it's not a guarantee against HPV or the HPV that can cause cancer and not all cervical cancers (and such) are caused by HPV. Education and detection is a better choice for US.

Right. There are many things that aren't guaranteed as well, but it's generally better to avoid or do for preventative measures. Like smoking. It's not a guarantee that you'll get cancer, or other smoking related diseases, but by not smoking, you very much decrease your chances.


Like I said - I just suggest people research it before just shooting something into their body because their doctor suggests to.


Yes, I very much agree. However, I also know that many doctors have way more understanding than I do about something. If I'm leery about something I'd personally default to another professional opinion. If a majority of people in the field recommended something to me, but many people who have less understanding of the topic advise otherwise, I'd make sure that I was making the best decision for me based on as much verifiable information as possible.


We also don't (my kids and I, my husband HAS too) - get the flu vaccine. It's also not a guarantee and it's my personal choice to do preventative maintenance with supplements instead. And knock on wood, there has been no flu to go through my house in years and when it did, it was very mild.

2 years ago my neighbor, who had been getting the flu shot regularly because she worked in a doctors office, died at 33 because of complications due to the flu. Now she didn't die as a result of the vaccine, but just because you get one doesn't mean it will help you.

I don't get the flu vaccine either. I really don't have much of an opinion on it actually, so maybe it's out of indifference. I did get sick this year though.


(sorry I get carried away too sometimes, different message board discussion....lol. I don't have my resources available to back myself up right now and I hate typing on my laptop ;) )

No worries. I don't have to have any other resources. I was just saying, things like CNN or NBC News or anything like that are fine, but some of those articles were from a few years ago. It leads to the possibility of making a warning type of post about mad cow disease several years after the fact. Not saying it's not something to be concerned about, but usually when there is an initial threat of something, there is a big "scare" period, and then people start realizing that it really isn't as bad as it seems. So when you go back to articles that are a few years old on news sites, you run that risk. Usually too, news sites are fantastic at getting pressing news out to a massive number of people. But where they start to show their weak side, is getting into the deep details about what's going on. Then you have the whole bias situations to make sure you at least acknowledge as well if you want to make the most informed decision possible.

It's all good, I just think it's important to dig into the facts that are causing things to be said, and make sure you get to the bottom of the facts, and not just let certain statements that are misleading influence your final decision.

As long as that is the case, I respect your decision completely. It's the uninformed, or even misinformed decisions that I don't like, which is why I felt compelled to respond to your initial post...just so that everyone who read that would make note of both sides.

One last interesting note, from wiki: The research that led to the development of the vaccine began in the 1980s by groups at the University of Rochester, Georgetown University, and the US National Cancer Institute (NCI). In 1991, Australian investigators at The University of Queensland found a way to form non-infectious virus-like particles (VLP), which could also strongly activate the immune system. However, these VLPs assembled poorly and did not have the same structure as infectious HPV. In 1993, a laboratory at the US National Cancer Institute was able to generate HPV16 VLPs that were morphologically correct. These VLPs were the basis for the HPV16 component of the Gardasil vaccine.[14] Upon commercialization of the vaccine, controversy involving intellectual property arose between the various groups that played a role in developing the vaccine.

I just wanted to throw that out there, mainly because of the discussions that have been going on in another thread. The Gardasil vaccine's history started back in the '80's and the Gardasil vaccine just reached the market recently. Drug research is such a long process.

I'm in the process of starting college (again), and I'm super stoked! http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4739/jig.gif

What are you studying?

It's movie night at my house. Blue Ray with some thumpen base, aww yah baby!....

LOL, my kids are now pretending to be air benders! Hahaha!

The kids were upstairs going to bed so I settled down to watch some Sopranos. Only one or two minutes into it, my mother-in-law hollered something so I paused the VCR and walked to the stairs to have her repeat it. She said my 5 year old was coming downstairs to get a book. By then he was already in the living room by his books being quiet. I realized what was on the paused screen so I shut off the tv and asked if he seen anything. "Yeah" "What did you see?" "Boooobs" (except when he says it, it sounds like booze.) I'm surprised he didn't point that out when he first saw them. Wasn't anything major; a couple ladies in g-strings and they weren't doing anything. But my babies are growing up! Gotta really watch it now!

You guys would have been so proud of me. I was at a bar and owned the dance floor with the girl I'm dating. The girls were watching me as I moved around with my partner practicing mindfulness. I was a little anxious but used mindfulness to bring me back.

Men listen, girls love it if you can dance. She'll love it if you dance with her. Many men can't do this, and you'll stand out even more.:cool:

Oh yea, "Rebel yell" by Billy Idol was sung by the cover band at the bar so I thought of our own rebel yell!!!!!!!!!!!:D

What are you studying?

Honestly, I'm not sure yet, though I have a general idea. Most likely an AS in Information Technology, though really first I'm just trying to get my prerequisites out of the way. There's 2 colleges I can choose (well, multiple, but within a reasonable distance...) and I'm not sure which one I want to take my core classes at. The one that's 20 minutes from me is honestly not that great of a school, and I'm concerned about actually learning something and not just getting a degree.

A lot of stuff to think about. I've been meaning to head over to the College forum to get some opinions...

I love my life! It has moments where I don't even believe myself it's so funny.

I miss my best friends. I wish they didn't live in So Cal. I wish they still talked, they were better friends than lovers. I hate being in the middle.

I miss my best friends. I wish they didn't live in So Cal. I wish they still talked, they were better friends than lovers. I hate being in the middle.

I was in the middle of my divorced parents. It's called triangulation, and it is horrible.:(

I was in the middle of my divorced parents. It's called triangulation, and it is horrible.:(

I've been in the middle my whole life. Divorced parents who hate each other. Two sisters 5 & 6 yrs my senior who love but mostly hate each other.

I miss my best friends. I wish they didn't live in So Cal. I wish they still talked, they were better friends than lovers. I hate being in the middle.


Bio, can we be buds? :)

I am going for a walk in the country today, yay!!!

I love my ice cream partially melted with a bit of pure unsweetened cocoa powder sprinkled on top. :D

I'm sitting on my screened-in porch with my dog and cats, enjoying this beautiful weather and theoretically writing a paper. :rolleyes::D

Moderator note: Reminder to stay on topic

An interesting and informative discussion came up here regarding HPV and the Gardisil vaccine. If anyone is interested in continuing this discussion, these posts can be split off into their own thread. Let me know, and I will be happy to do it.

Meanwhile, try to stay on topic (i.e., stay random :)).

Thanks, Tiny :)

Moderator note: Reminder to on topic

An interesting and informative discussion came up here regarding HPV and the Gardisil vaccine. If anyone is interested in continuing this discussion, these posts can be split off into their own thread. Let me know, and I will be happy to do it.

Meanwhile, try to stay on topic (i.e., stay random :)).

Thanks, Tiny :)


I would enjoy something on STDs in general. I am always worried about this.

Note: I bring randomness in copious amounts.

I'm being random. :cool:

I love Artgypsys signature.

OMG, I just got NorCalAndy8's username meaning. I thought it had to do with something about North Carolina.:o

OMG, I just got NorCalAndy8's username meaning. I thought it had to do with something about North Carolina.:o


^^^ LAWL!! ^^^

It stands for Northern California...

^^^ LAWL!! ^^^

It stands for Northern California...

I got it when I looked up at your language. I know how to put two and two together. ;)

I appreciate many cultures and many colors of skin. I love Rihanna's S&M.

Bio, can we be buds? :)

Of course. (I only bite sometimes.)

OMG, I just got NorCalAndy8's username meaning. I thought it had to do with something about North Carolina.:o

BAY-destrian;)

I appreciate many cultures and many colors of skin. I love Rihanna's S&M.

I usually hate Rihanna... but I like that song... Rawr, I mean, rawr...

I was introduced to S&M thru NOFXs S&M Airlines CD. I bought it when I was in 8th grade.

I appreciate many cultures and many colors of skin. I love Rihanna's S&M.


yeah...apparently after Chris Brown danced on her face she's become a bad*** b****

lol


"I'm Chris Brown, I dance on yo' face..."

I'm going to go find a spot to eat breakfast/lunch and read...

I like it when everyone else stays inside because of the rain.

I appreciate Rihanna's voice, her apparent strength and it seems like she had a difficult childhood...

I bought textbooks for my classes. But I haven't really read them. I blame it on dyslexia. I'm such a bad-boy. :p

I'm going to go find a spot to eat breakfast/lunch and read...

I like it when everyone else stays inside because of the rain.


The rain doesn't stop me from riding my fixie. Time to hit up the city.

The rain doesn't stop me from riding my fixie. Time to hit up the city.

Ahh, I freaking love fixie riding. In college I rode mine like crazy. Then I moved into a pretty hilly place and got out of shape. :rolleyes:

was 52 years young when i found out i had add/adhd and that it wasn't all my fault and that i was trying as hard as i could.

In another day I'll have lived another decade.

Sometime in my late jr. high or early highschool years, I realized I wasn't ever going to truly "fit in". I stopped caring then, and have turned into a relatively unique person. Looking back on it, I wonder how much of that was caused from undiagnosed adhd.

I wish I could find just one other person around here to "fit in" with, instead of having to withhold parts of who I am because they make other people uncomfortable.

I wish I could find just one other person around here to "fit in" with, instead of having to withhold parts of who I am because they make other people uncomfortable.



Same here chaos, I know what you mean.

When you say "around here" do you mean around addforums.com, or around where you live?

When you say "around here" do you mean around addforums.com, or around where you live?

Well then I meant the addforums :o but fitting in anywhere would be nice too.

Well then I meant the addforums :o but fitting in anywhere would be nice too.

Well, I first assumed it meant the forum. Then I reread it and realized it could be in reference to where he lives, then I just didn't know anymore. Just curious. I've honestly gotten to where I generally am content. I don't like messing up the level of "formality" in dress attire and things like that, but aside from that, it's just kind of become the way it is.

I started reading the Happiness Project by Gretchen Rubin. My first commandment is "Always write with a purple pen". Don't know why that came to mind but I'm gonna start writing with a purple pen. Except for stuff that requires blue or black of course (party-poopers). My favorite colors are pink and purple. For some reason some stuff I want in pink (my laptop, phone case, portable DVD player. I guess electronics are pink) and other stuff I like purple (some shirts, ink). But then I'd like to color my hair (a no-no when looking for a job!) and I'd like either pink (like my RockBand character. She's cool...) or blue. Why not purple? Don't know. Why blue? Don't know.

Haha, I write in green! I <3 green pens. Granted, I write in black for my lab notebook since it has a slim chance of being used in litigation matters, and I still use black ink for formal documents. But everything else I write is in green or pencil.

Did anyone else see the full moon last night.It's called the full "worm" moon & it won't be that big & bright again for another 19yrs.It was beautiful & I couldn't stop looking at it.

Did anyone else see the full moon last night.It's called the full "worm" moon & it won't be that big & bright again for another 19yrs.It was beautiful & I couldn't stop looking at it.

I had heard that it was on Sunday night. I forgot to look out last night, but I was under the impression it was tonight. :confused:

I had heard that it was on Sunday night. I forgot to look out last night, but I was under the impression it was tonight. :confused:

Nope, it was last night. But its still closer than normal this whole week, the moon tends not to teleport instantly :p

Supermoon!

Nope, it was last night. But its still closer than normal this whole week, the moon tends not to teleport instantly :p

Supermoon!

Dang It! It helps if I look at the right year. :mad:

I done gone shopping at the Wal Mart this afternoon, found some new socks, a 3X green sweatshirt and green sharpie markers on clearance. Nothing special but it was nice to find some bargains amongst the bargains. :p

I read a brief headline, purely a glance, but saw that 4 New York Times reporters are missing in Libya. Maybe they'll hire me.

When you say "around here" do you mean around addforums.com, or around where you live?

I'd kind of gotten the idea that I more or less fit in here and there on the forum. (Which I appreciate. :)) I just meant in the general area where I live.

I have friends who I can count on to be here if I need them, but, you know... There are still those reactions if I share things that are not quite the norm. (And I definitely don't tell people about my having ADD and BP II. Not after the reactions from a couple friends I told in the psych field.) People around me don't look at things the way I do, don't want to flip things over and look at them from the other side, figuratively speaking. Some say, "Huh, that's interesting," and change the topic. Others suddenly find they have something they forgot to do, and need to scurry off to get it done. One friend of mine gets really irritated when I discuss things are outside the boundaries she has set for herself (and everyone else). So, yeah, I just don't quite fit in. That's not new, of course. Anywhere I've lived it has been the same.

Please note, this isn't a pity party, just an observation.

I don't understand how I could be willing to go to Libya, but shutter over the smallest s***.:confused:

Did anyone else see the full moon last night.It's called the full "worm" moon & it won't be that big & bright again for another 19yrs.It was beautiful & I couldn't stop looking at it.
I'm doing part of my internship at an inpatient psych hospital. Last Monday a lot of people had been discharged, and things were really quiet. On Friday it was packed, with the staff having to hustle to catch up on everything after being slammed with admissions. One of the social workers said it was because of this moon phenomenon. :D

I need a good read......

I don't understand how I could be willing to go to Libya, but shutter over the smallest s***.:confused:
I'm amazed at the things I'm willing to do that have a rather small probability of occurring, yet I flush with anxiety over having to confront someone I see every day. :p

I need a good read......

What do you normally read?

I was just offered the opportunity to guest blog on the number one blog for my political party!!!!!!!!!!

I was just offered the opportunity to guest blog on the number one blog for my political party!!!!!!!!!!

First....Congrats man! :D

I wish I could get that lucky.

Then again I never registered for the "Rent Is Too Damn High" Party so I can see why they overlook my qualifications.

What's the political party?

A wink from a woman is priceless. I can remember the older girls winking at me when I was a young boy. I miss those days.

A wink from a woman is priceless. I can remember the older girls winking at me when I was a young boy. I miss those days.

Older girls as in Betty White older or like a couple years older?

Were you cougar bait when you were younger also? :p

I just chopped off my hair on my own and about to color it pink and purple! :D

I started reading the Happiness Project by Gretchen Rubin. My first commandment is "Always write with a purple pen". Don't know why that came to mind but I'm gonna start writing with a purple pen. Except for stuff that requires blue or black of course (party-poopers). My favorite colors are pink and purple. For some reason some stuff I want in pink (my laptop, phone case, portable DVD player. I guess electronics are pink) and other stuff I like purple (some shirts, ink). But then I'd like to color my hair (a no-no when looking for a job!) and I'd like either pink (like my RockBand character. She's cool...) or blue. Why not purple? Don't know. Why blue? Don't know.

I went to post earlier and never hit "submit" and then, after I submitted, I noticed your post. What a cowinkydink. Haha. :p

I just chopped off my hair on my own and about to color it pink and purple! :D

That's on my list to do tonight but instead of coloring I'm shaving that thing completely bald.

Oh yeah, we want pics too. :p

I know, I know...posting like a mad-woman.

I need a good read......

I know you haven't answered the "What do you like to read question", but a good short read that I like to recommend is "Anthem" by Ayn Rand. ;)

That's on my list to do tonight but instead of coloring I'm shaving that thing completely bald.

Oh yeah, we want pics too. :p

Of course!! ^___^ It's all blonde and my natural color right now. I had to take a minute to stop and eat (I forget to eat a lot on my meds... http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7205/erm.gif) but I'm about to do-it-to-it. Is it ok to post the pic in here? Or should I just put it on my profile?

Of course!! ^___^ It's all blonde and my natural color right now. I had to take a minute to stop and eat (I forget to eat a lot on my meds... http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7205/erm.gif) but I'm about to do-it-to-it. Is it ok to post the pic in here? Or should I just put it on my profile?

I don't see why it wouldn't be alright. As long as you keep it within Guidelines. :)

I saw the moon last nite and it did look unusually bright. Well, the things i learn!



I am very happy that I got a drive with my bf's mother to pick up my daughter from her friends place!!! I loved my walk in the country but my back is not to happy I wasn't looking forward to walking to her friends and back in pain.

I know you haven't answered the "What do you like to read question", but a good short read that I like to recommend is "Anthem" by Ayn Rand. ;)

Anthem was a good read. I'll agree with that.

was 52 years young when i found out i had add/adhd and that it wasn't all my fault and that i was trying as hard as i could.


I find this to be deeply moving.

I just chopped off my hair on my own and about to color it pink and purple! :D

Have fun with it! I'm going to find a salon who'd do it for me because I have darker hair. So it'll probably have to be bleached first. I'm waiting until May since I'm taking a trip and I don't want the roots to be showing. Am I a bit old for this? Nah.... Never to old to have fun! Though my mom will complain (I'll be setting a bad example when I take my kids to school. Or my kids will get laughed at because of their mom), my mother-in-law will think I'm stupid but not say anything, my husband will complain because it costs money "that we don't have", but the kids would like it. Geesh, no wonder I get depressed. Lol. I have to fight to be myself!

Older girls as in Betty White older or like a couple years older?

Were you cougar bait when you were younger also? :p


You make me laugh man. Dude, I was like super young (maybe 7,8 or 9 ) so it would be like pedophile bait.:p I can remember being at a McDonalds and a girl behind the counter would wink at me. So, what's the average age of a fast food employee?:p My mom would tell me stuff about what the older girls would do. Maybe this was where I began to really love getting female attention.

Have fun with it! I'm going to find a salon who'd do it for me because I have darker hair. So it'll probably have to be bleached first. I'm waiting until May since I'm taking a trip and I don't want the roots to be showing. Am I a bit old for this? Nah.... Never to old to have fun! Though my mom will complain (I'll be setting a bad example when I take my kids to school. Or my kids will get laughed at because of their mom), my mother-in-law will think I'm stupid but not say anything, my husband will complain because it costs money "that we don't have", but the kids would like it. Geesh, no wonder I get depressed. Lol. I have to fight to be myself!

Yeah, I have dark strawberry blonde hair naturally, but I still bleached the heck out of it (well, the parts I wanted to dye). I got the color in now. I usually wait until the color dries before I wash it out. Or at least until no color comes out when I touch it. http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9894/laughp.gif

Anyway...I'll post a few pictures when it's done. :D

(And Metz, of course it will be within the guidelines...Unless being super sexy is against the guidelines...http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4804/bllurk4.gif) :p

My favorite colors are red, purple and green.

I am confused about the time right now as the time on my computer is wrong as is the one on the wall.

My favorite colors are green and blue.

These are my favorite colors together, but they have to be in this order. ;)

I am confused about the time right now as the time on my computer is wrong as is the one on the wall.

At the sound of the chime, the time will be 12:43am EST.

*chimes*

Or you could always go here! (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/) :D

I love the internets. Hehe.

You make me laugh man. Dude, I was like super young (maybe 7,8 or 9 ) so it would be like pedophile bait.:p I can remember being at a McDonalds and a girl behind the counter would wink at me. So, what's the average age of a fast food employee?:p My mom would tell me stuff about what the older girls would do. Maybe this was where I began to really love getting female attention.

I am guessing 15 - 18? So you were looking good to the older ladies which isn't a bad thing at all.

My random fact: I seem to be most attractive to pregnant women. I must bring out the hormones that make me look irresistible to them.

Metz, are you a real stable looking man?

Random fact: I'm wide awake with nothing to do but forum surf.

I am guessing 15 - 18? So you were looking good to the older ladies which isn't a bad thing at all.


Oh yea, I was a real Casanova.:rolleyes:

Metz, are you a real stable looking man?

Random fact: I'm wide awake with nothing to do but forum surf.

I have no idea. I dress in t-shirts and jeans and usually have a scruffy face.

I was just thinking it's because I'm a big guy. :p

I'm watching Cinderella Man.

What do you normally read?


-The Wallstreet Journal

-The Economist

-Bloomberg Businessweek

I know, I know...posting like a mad-woman.



I know you haven't answered the "What do you like to read question", but a good short read that I like to recommend is "Anthem" by Ayn Rand. ;)

I actually own a book by Ayn Rand called "Atlas Strugged"

But I haven't made it passed the first page. It's just sitting and collecting dust on my bookshelf. lol :D

I'm sure "Anthem" is a great though...

I actually own a book by Ayn Rand called "Atlas Strugged"

But I haven't made it passed the first page. It's just sitting and collecting dust on my bookshelf. lol :D

I'm sure "Anthem" is a great though...

Andy... have you an audible account?

I listen faster than I can read:)

Andy... have you an audible account?

I listen faster than I can read:)

Yeaap I do. I also have a RFB&D account. They offer free individual membership for a year. But I haven't really used RFB&D to know if there are any other additional costs to it.



Me too. I guess that makes two of us. ;)

I read Anthem when I was much younger. I liked it at the time, but I don't now. I don't want to tell anyone what to read --just, if you like Ayn Rand, don't stop with Ayn Rand. She's not the only writer out there who devoted devoted herself to an inspiring idea.

Two books I recently got through, and enjoyed immensely are "Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong" and "Sex At Dawn" (both non-fiction).

Two books I recently got through, and enjoyed immensely are "Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong" and "Sex At Dawn" (both non-fiction).

hm, both sound quite intriguing..I'll just have to add them to my list of potential books to read.

I have horrible timing. For instance, I was into MMA (PRIDE... UFC) from about 1999 until 2005 -- people thought I was crazy. Now, those same people, are alllll over it -- but alas, I've not followed it since 2005. BOOOOO.

I swore I wouldn't post any perhaps unwelcome book suggestions after I'd swooped in and disliked Ayn Rand. Then I went for a walk and spent the entire walk thinking of book suggestions, and of how to introduce them here.

Rule of the Bone, Russell Banks
Henderson the Rain King, Saul Bellow
Sometimes a Great Notion, Ken Kesey
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Hunter Thompson
Childhood, Maxim Gorky
The Road to Wigan Pier, George Orwell,
Notes From Underground, Dostoevsky
Great Apes, Will Self
The Plague Albert Camus

I swore I wouldn't post any perhaps unwelcome book suggestions after I'd swooped in and disliked Ayn Rand. Then I went for a walk and spent the entire walk thinking of book suggestions, and of how to introduce them here.

Rule of the Bone, Russell Banks
Henderson the Rain King, Saul Bellow
Sometimes a Great Notion, Ken Kesey
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Hunter Thompson
Childhood, Maxim Gorky
The Road to Wigan Pier, George Orwell,
Notes From Underground, Dostoevsky
Great Apes, Will Self
The Plague Albert Camus

Mmmm... Tommy...

I've not read most of those...

I have read Notes from the Underground... it's a favorite of mine.
I cried when I heard f Thompson's suicide. I got teary eyed for a few days there after. (sensitive, yes. *sniff*)
I've never been able to get into Camus. I do, however, like Hesse (Steppenwolf, Demian apparently Peter Cramenzid (sp) is very good too).

I have a thing for existentialist and transgressive literature...

...it seems like I'll be up all night.....just like old times....

Care to recommend some good transgressive literature? I don't think I've read much of it, at least not lately.

(insomnia here too, N.C.A.8.)

fI have horrible timing. For instance, I was into MMA (PRIDE... UFC) from about 1999 until 2005 -- people thought I was crazy. Now, those same people, are alllll over it -- but alas, I've not followed it since 2005. BOOOOO.


Forget those other people. They're only into MMA now because it's been receiving so much "hype" since then. Don't you just hate it when people jump on the Bandwagon.

So what influenced you to stop following it since 2005?

S**** those other people. They're only into MMA now because it's so "hyped up." Don't you just hate it when people hop on the Bandwagon.

What influenced you to stop following it since 2005?

Moved up to the Bay, got caught up in school.

Then in 2007 (last year of school) UFC bought Pride and I got peeeeeeevvvvveeeedddddd....

I liked the Ring. I liked Bas Rutten and Steven Quadros. I liked PRIDE rules. I liked the fans more than the beer guzzling, neanderthals we've got here in the states. I liked that fighters weren't booed when the game went to the ground. I liked that it wasn't just a ground and pound game (which the cage makes UFC into). So... yeah... that's why.

And now... in the past like... year and a half... BOOM everywhere. And still, when I hear about fans talk about it... they've no appreciation for grappling, no appreciation for the psychological mind game, no appreciation -- they're vulgar, they bloodlust... IDK. I'll need to see a new one to see if the announcing has gotten better and if the fans are still blah.

I love how my article looks in my school's paper. I think I did a really good job!:)

Everytime I hear certain songs on the radio I start singing the Weird Al version as with a lot of them, I don't know the real artists version at all. :p

My head itches if I don't wash my hair every 20 hours or so. I wish it were at least 24, so I wouldn't wake up with my head itching. If there were no hot water or electricity I think I'd look and feel absolutely horrid within a week.

I have a song I hate stuck in my head and I have no idea who sings it. Something about having a girlfriend that looked like a boyfriend or some other nonsense. I am just greatful it isn't Ke$ha, because I am counting that as my sanity/insanity point. You hear me saying she's good or singing one of her songs, you have reason to be alarmed...

I find it terribly hard to resist something that I cannot have. It's like it makes it all the more tempting and attractive to me. Imagine the prettiest rose locked behind a glass wall.:(:)

This girl I used to go to school with WAY back in the day is messaging me on facebook. She's bored, miserable, and married. I don't know what I can do to comfort her.:(

I believe this is the song Metzfanaz has in his head. Lol.:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5fBdpreJiU

^ That song brings back vivid memories of 2005.

My supervisor is back... I am sooooo relieved! It's lonely when u only have one coworker who works at the same place. Lonelier when u have to deal with a coworker across the State who's old and doesn't learn new tricks easily...

I want NorCalAndy to know that I wrote what he said about me in the thread about saying something nice about the person above on a notecard, which I'll carry around.

I find it terribly hard to resist something that I cannot have. It's like it makes it all the more tempting and attractive to me. Imagine the prettiest rose locked behind a glass wall.:(:)

One of my brothers's best friends is allergic to almost every food on Earth, but has a fascination, almost obsession with it. Not eating it, but he has like sheets with fod, hats with food, random things mag=de to look like food, and has dressed up as a ood every halloween since the day his family moved here. :confused:

I'm officially enrolled into Florida Gateway College and had an extensive conversation with the Disability Department coordinator. She has ADHD as well, and I think I'm really going to like going there. I think I'm finally doing this right, this time. :D

This girl I used to go to school with WAY back in the day is messaging me on facebook. She's bored, miserable, and married. I don't know what I can do to comfort her.:(

Danger, Will Robinson!

Today is my 13th anniversary and my husband got me a MACBOOK!!!!!!!!!! I don't deserve it, but it is the best gift I ever got!

Today is my 13th anniversary and my husband got me a MACBOOK!!!!!!!!!! I don't deserve it, but it is the best gift I ever got!

You deserve it. :)

Congrats on the lucky 13th. :D

Danger, Will Robinson!




I know CHAOS. I know.

ArtGypsy has come so far since she has been on here. She deserves that present.:)

Whenever I listen to these two cd's in my car, I have to sing every song as loud as I can.

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSzlYu2PTpzErUsC0oh6ONzYXkgrS-ysB_a7GxxkNd2d6MHmIO7&t=1

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/300x300/23480677.jpg

I actually watched a whole season of the Sopranos! I shock myself. Lol. Before I start Season 2, I'm gonna watch the first Godfather. Me watching mafia movies??? What's next, getting into Gunsmoke? Hmmm. I wouldn't mind trying that out...someday.

As for my husband and I, we're almost finished with the 6th season of the Golden Girls and then we have one more season to go. We only watch about 4-6 episodes a week because it's a before bed ritual on his days off. After that, if I can't find the Golden Palace (very short lived sitcom with 3 of the Golden Girls and Cheech Marin), I'll start watching Home Improvement. I usually get into shows when they're reruns and I tend to like watching them in order.

I've tried to watch Full House from the beginning. I love that show. But it's so sickenly sweet, I can't watch too much at one time.

You should check out The Wire. If the Sopranos shows you the world-view of a cynical and brutally honest conservative, The Wire does the same from a liberal's point of view. And it's really, really good; I'd say it's a hair better than The Sopranos, and I really liked the Sopranos. The guys who created the show both used to live pretty close to the real life version; I think one was a veteran reporter in Baltimore and the other was a veteran cop. Supposedly some of the guys he'd arrested played minor roles in the series.

I like zen philosophy.

I also am looking forward to the large hadron collider getting fully up and running. I am looking forward to results regarding m-theory, extension of string theory.

I am a loud-mouthed, long-winded introvert. I love people, but I need my time alone, both inside the house and outside of the house.

I'm glad that life's trials haven't made me shut down and build walls to trust and connection with people.

Hair-coloring take 2. Hopefully it looks better than last night. :( (which is why I didn't post any pictures...:o)

i wish I had hair to color. ;)

Hair-coloring take 2. Hopefully it looks better than last night. :( (which is why I didn't post any pictures...:o)

I also am looking forward to the large hadron collider getting fully up and running. I am looking forward to results regarding m-theory, extension of string theory.


I am too! I want to see if it swallows the earth into a big giant black hole. Oh the possibilities. Or maybe makes an alternate universe where whatever people don't understand or make fun of they become. That'd be awesome.

The revenge for instant karma.

i wish I had hair to color. ;)

Some guys can really pull off the bald look; others, not so much... What about you Metz?

I know CHAOS. I know.

Tell her you feel weird about it. Maybe then she will too.

Tell her you feel weird about it. Maybe then she will too.


I'm just trying to be supportive in a non-emotional way. I don't want to give her the wrong impression.

Some guys can really pull off the bald look; others, not so much... What about you Metz?

I actually can, I have a nicely shaped skull. :)

I'm just trying to be supportive in a non-emotional way. I don't want to give her the wrong impression.
Have you told her that a lot of people have rough patches in their marriages (some really rough), but often if they stay together and work on their issues their marriage actually becomes much stronger? :rolleyes:

Have you asked her if she and her husband have tried marital counseling, and if she says yes, ask her how many different counselors they have tried? :D

Those questions are certainly supportive (of her and her marriage). There's also no quicker way to turn the wrong type of interest around than to try to encourage the other person to work on his/her marriage. :p

I'm just trying to be supportive in a non-emotional way. I don't want to give her the wrong impression.

Just don't think about meeting her across the country. Lol. Based on my issue a few weeks ago where I was like the lady you're describing. And don't allow her to flirt with you. Convince her to pretend you're her brother; no incest. Lol. That's what's helping me. That way I can love him...only like a brother. Don't be a JK (initials). Hey, you're not him are you? Lol. I don't think he'd be on here.

Random fact: I was just outside on my porch. You know how sounds carry farther at night? Well, right behind my home came loud noises that made me feel like I was in some sort of scary movie. Two creatures nearby, more in the distance, but the two sounded like they were right at the edge of the woods behind my home. These things were making sounds back and forth, high in the trees, noises something like howler monkeys, but then scaling up to sound like the kack-kack-kack-kack of some jungle bird. A very large jungle bird. More like something was going to emerge from among the trees ala Jurassic Park (the book, not the movie). Something deranged and deadly.

This is only the second year I've heard this, and I finally figured out last year that the vocalizations are from owls (very large owls) calling to each other during mating season. But it still kind of creeps me out, even knowing what kind of creatures are making those sounds.

Staying up late yesterday night wasn't such a good idea....I feel like a zombie at the moment.

Staying up late yesterday night wasn't such a good idea....I feel like a zombie at the moment.
Ditto.

Staying up both nights was not good for me.

I borrowed something and I just realized that I forgot to give it back. oopsies

My mind is just wandering today.....

So, I'm talking to this girl on this dating website. She said that she had never talked to anyone on there like me.

In our landlord's back yard, when I was about four, I almost stepped on a huge bee with my bare foot; my mom shouted to me before I could put my foot down but I was badly startled. Sometimes I think I make too much of this story.

In our landlord's back yard, when I was about four, I almost stepped on a huge bee with my bare foot; my mom shouted to me before I could put my foot down but I was badly startled. Sometimes I think I make too much of this story.

What do u make of it? Do u wish u could have gotten stung?


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I have been trying to sleep for over an hour. Sometimes I want to be kept to no schedule except for the one the my body keeps me to.

I have been trying to sleep for over an hour. Sometimes I want to be kept to no schedule except for the one the my body keeps me to.


I've taken nyquil to help me block out noises and fall asleep. It worked wonders for me especially when my dorm mate would turn the room light on whenever he walked in late at night....all drunk and sloppy...on a Wednesday night...

I obviously can't do that now...since Adderall and Nyquil (antihistamine) don't mix well.

I've taken nyquil to help me block out noises and fall asleep. It worked wonders for me especially when my dorm mate would turn the room light on whenever he walked in late at night....all drunk and sloppy...on a Wednesday night...

I obviously can't do that now...since Adderall and Nyquil (antihistamine) don't mix well.

Andy...

Seriously get out of my head.

On hot summer nights growing up in utah, I would hyperventilate into the covers to fall asleep. If that failed Mormons alcohol: Nyquil (yes I was raised Mormon:p).

Andy...

Seriously get out of my head.

On hot summer nights growing up in utah, I would hyperventilate into the covers to fall asleep. If that failed Mormons alcohol: Nyquil (yes I was raised Mormon:p).


I know what you mean by hot summer nights. I was attending college in Arizona at the time. It gets pretty hot over there as you can imagine.

Are you still a Mormon to this day? I actually have cousins who are Mormon and are from Utah. They actually came to visit me one time a while back......and looked at me funny once they saw the tower of pisa in my kitchen built from beer cans. I told them I had nothing to with it (fingers-crossed).:D

Ha. My family were partly mormon; my grandmother was and my aunt was or is. I'd go once in a while, but the marathon church sessions were too much, and splitting into smaller groups was scary. For a while when I was a bit older I was getting a bit interested and talking to the missionaries; I think my step dad told me to cut it out, if I remember right. I was never into it deeply though. I didn't even really notice the difference between it and regular protestantism.

The bee? I don't know. It made more sense left vague, or seemed to.

Tell her you feel weird about it. Maybe then she will too.


She asked me if I would date her. She also said that I needed a gf. She's just a lonely woman. :cool:

I borrowed something and I just realized that I forgot to give it back. oopsies

My mind is just wandering today.....
It happens.

(And I'm guessing that, around here, it happens a lot.)

The bee? I don't know. It made more sense left vague, or seemed to.
Existential?

She's just a lonely woman. :cool:
Five dangerous words. In this kind of situation, there's no "just" about it.

As a woman, a divorced woman who was lonely in my marriage, I feel fairly comfortable saying that.

Procrastination, a familiar term to most here. It makes me crazy that I never learn to do things right away!! I am finally going to renew my provincial health insurance it expired 3 months ago! I really get frustrated with myself sometimes.

I know what you mean by hot summer nights. I was attending college in Arizona at the time. It gets pretty hot over there as you can imagine.

Are you still a Mormon to this day? I actually have cousins who are Mormon and are from Utah. They actually came to visit me one time a while back......and looked at me funny once they saw the tower of pisa in my kitchen built from beer cans. I told them I had nothing to with it (fingers-crossed).:D

Nope. The church has record. But when I moved to LA at 18yo, to get the missionaries to stop badgering me, I told them I died in a car accident. They never came again...

So far, only a couple Mormons from back home still talk to me. I like when people can practice religion without being fundamentalist and righteous (especially when it's against the heart of teachings. Jesus wouldn't be rigid and cruel....).

Bio, I just wanna live in harmony.

My load is late getting here so I went back to my little motorhome to play house and imagined all the great food I'm gonna start cookin' again!

I used to buy storage units to get stuff to sell in my second hand store up in northern NV. The very first unit I bought belonged to a Mormon and I wound up with all sorts of secret Mormon stuff that I'm sure I shouldn't have gotten hold of.

I used to buy storage units to get stuff to sell in my second hand store up in northern NV. The very first unit I bought belonged to a Mormon and I wound up with all sorts of secret Mormon stuff that I'm sure I shouldn't have gotten hold of.

Don't they have their own underware? Something that covers from neck to toe?

My random fact is that I don't know the answers to those questions.

I got a B on my journalism assignment.

I heard there's something called temple garments.

I heard there's something called temple garments.

yup.

They're usually made of really nice fabric... i.e. feels nice. I couldn't understand how grown ups could wear them ALL THE TIME though, even during summer. OMG HOT!

yup.

They're usually made of really nice fabric... i.e. feels nice. I couldn't understand how grown ups could wear them ALL THE TIME though, even during summer. OMG HOT!


Temple Garments...it "sounds" like something a person would wear at a sacred ritual gathering.......but I don't even know what they look like...eh, what'd i know..? lol

I got the feeling, watching Big Love, that the show's mormon info was really well researched, but I wouldn't know for sure. I remember an episode where the closeted mormon-fundamentalist guy was having an advertising meeting, where they were proposing to show a subtle temple garment panty-line, or whatever you'd call it, on some actors in one of their superstore ads, to appeal to mormon customers.

A relative of mine got married in a temple (the temple, a temple?), and of all the family, only my grandmother was in good enough standing to attend.

I don't know why I'm nervous. The tornado watch has expired for here and it's not even scary outside. Some clouds but nothing really. I suppose I'm nervous for all those folks in Iowa with their tornado warnings. Be safe everyone!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XB1BENAUWo&feature=related

Temple Garments...it "sounds" like something a person would wear at a sacred ritual gathering.......but I don't even know what they look like...eh, what'd i know..? lol

You have to have a bishop's recommendation to participate in those. When you're sealed in the temple (usually when married, rare exceptions for single people) you then wear the garments. So yes, it is a sacred ritual. My understanding is that it's a beautiful experience.

If you ever get the chance to take a tour of an LDS temple before it is sealed take it. I haven't yet, I hear it is phenomenal. As a teenager, I did baptisms for the dead -- so I saw inside that area -- very humbling=-)

I think I gained immense respect for records through the LDS church.


I got the feeling, watching Big Love, that the show's mormon info was really well researched, but I wouldn't know for sure. I remember an episode where the closeted mormon-fundamentalist guy was having an advertising meeting, where they were proposing to show a subtle temple garment panty-line, or whatever you'd call it, on some actors in one of their superstore ads, to appeal to mormon customers.

A relative of mine got married in a temple (the temple, a temple?), and of all the family, only my grandmother was in good enough standing to attend.

I've never seen Big Love. But, there's a difference between the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the former still practices polygamy while the latter does not and is the more predominant one, which was the faith I was brought up in.

[can i just say, tommy, weird you have LDS ties :rolleyes:)

I'm stressing myself out again! I don't know if it's me or what. Maybe I'm not a mom type person. I love my kids and a lot of the times I do like being a mom but I can't take the constant talking and whining! I feel so selfish. I just want them to play happily in the living room. How hard is that? I just like being by myself. Well, the door is open so I can hear them. I guess I'd like the "seen but not heard" times. I don't know. Makes me feel so bad. Am I a bad mom? (the yelling, yes. But besides that...)

I'm stressing myself out again! I don't know if it's me or what. Maybe I'm not a mom type person. I love my kids and a lot of the times I do like being a mom but I can't take the constant talking and whining! I feel so selfish. I just want them to play happily in the living room. How hard is that? I just like being by myself. Well, the door is open so I can hear them. I guess I'd like the "seen but not heard" times. I don't know. Makes me feel so bad. Am I a bad mom? (the yelling, yes. But besides that...)

It's not selfish. You have to replenish yourself in order to keep giving and be there for your kids (family, friends, community, too) mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually:)

(Margaret Atwood said that pettiness was banned in the house she grew up in, for whatever that's worth) I think I might not dismiss the idea of ever having kids if I didn't get the impression that the mainstream, default position on parenthood is that the task of parents is to facilitate and pay for their child's extremely long holiday on an unholy cross between that pinnochio island, jail, toys 'r us and blockbuster video. There must be a succinct way of putting that... I don't mean 'go all James Mill on the wretches!', or anything, just... Oh, I don't know what I mean, but don't feel guilty!

(Reg. Big Love: I'm not under the impression that the polygamists are more than a lunatic fringe. And, by all means, find the LDS ties strange. I was only ever on the periphery, though; sometimes I wonder if I sometimes exploit it to make myself more interesting)

I wish I was going to Bon Jovi tonight. :-/

I hope I can see Katy Perry and Rihanna.

I wish I was going to Bon Jovi tonight. :-/


You should've! Bon Jovi's GREAT live! I finally seen them last year. (After being a fan since Slippery When Wet. What took me so long to see them???)

You should've! Bon Jovi's GREAT live! I finally seen them last year. (After being a fan since Slippery When Wet. What took me so long to see them???)

Yeah, I know! He is SLC tonight and there's still tickets but, my DH is not a concert goer.... I guess I could wander up there any way, maybe drag my little Sis along... IDK

Yeah, I know! He is SLC tonight and there's still tickets but, my DH is not a concert goer.... I guess I could wander up there any way, maybe drag my little Sis along... IDK

Heck with your husband! LOL. My husband's a boring concert goer. He'll go for me but I think he's bored. A couple weeks ago I dragged him to see Slaughter and I left him towards the back of the room because I always go towards the front. I can't stand to be way back there. I feel like I'm watching TV or something. I wanna be as close as I can get!

At the Bon Jovi show last year there were some kid shirts that I thought was so funny. "My mom went to see Bon Jovi and she never came back". I should've bought one even though I did come back... Hey, they might have them on E-Bay. Don't know what I'd do with it though. But it's so darn funny.

Yeah, I know! He is SLC tonight and there's still tickets but, my DH is not a concert goer.... I guess I could wander up there any way, maybe drag my little Sis along... IDK

I'm tired of seeing DH and not knowing what it means!:( Can someone explain this to me?:confused:

DH means Dear Husband. (oops. Accidently turned on bold. Have to figure out how to shut it off.). Basically means Husband. DW is Wife, etc....

I got this video for Blueranne, because she isn't going to see Bon Jovi.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx2u5uUu3DE

There. Hit Alt B accidently. Of course if I wanted to do it on purpose, I wouldn't remember....

I like it when I see a woman say DH then, it gives me hope for myself.

Im allergic to Nuts and I look like billy idol when I got my hair cut and bleached a few years ago.

I like it when I see a woman say DH then, it gives me hope for myself.

I give myself hope when I always call my husband "hubby". For some reason, that's just what I call him....especially online. Even if I feel wishy-washy (like I have been lately), it's either hubby or husband. To his face, it's usually "dear". I don't know why I don't call him by his name or his family nickname. I'm not too much of a name person. Except my kids. Then I tack "boy" on the end of their names.

We once lived next door to polygamist. In fact, my sons best friends family is polygamist.

Oh, and once I met Kevin Baccon at the SLC international. I was there with my cousin who was picking up her hubby. We were both hugely pregnant and we really really wanted KBs signature but, we didn't have any paper.... So, we asked him to sign our bellies! LOL at least we got pics on our phones!

... Any way, he asked us if we were polygamists!!! LOL

Grading papers is the bane of my existence.

My MIL and SIL just text me a picture of them at Bon Jovi!!!! Thanks for inviting me NOT! Grrrrr

I finally got my avatar right!!!!!

I'm straight...

I think NorCalAndy and I should hang out one day.

I think we are watching the beginning of a wonderful bromance. :p

I have a real fear of dinosaur skeletons, like the ones you see in museums. Not real dinosaurs, not regular skeletons (although whale skeletons are close enough for me to be afraid of them). Dinosaur skeletons.

I'm a very curious person.

I'm attracted to people, not gender:p

I think we are watching the beginning of a wonderful bromance. :p

ohh...stop it....I'm blushing..... haha


..but seriously...I only swing one way...

ohh...stop it....I'm blushing..... haha

Too cute! :D

I think we are watching the beginning of a wonderful bromance. :p

Oh dear, I should have known to send that in a pm. It's more fun to say it publicly so people can get there sarcazm on.:cool:

Metzfanaz loves my use of z up there.

I think NorCalAndy and I should hang out one day.


Anonymous and I should definitely "kick it" sometime....but his location might pose a problem...

I think we are watching the beginning of a wonderful bromance. :p

I have never heard of bromance before. I'm gonna have to add that to my vocabulary.

Anonymous and I should definitely "kick it" sometime....but his location might pose a problem...

I agree with this, maybe I need to spend some student loan money to give myself a much needed and deserved vacay to Cali one more time.

I'm a very curious person.

I'm attracted to people, not gender:p


Well, I can't argue with that....I like Bio's sense of curiosity.

I'm going to bed with a woman. LOL.:p

I'm straight too but, I still think women are hotter than men!

I'm straight too but, I still think women are hotter than men!


I second that motion, and I love to argue. They're the best.:D

Although, blueranne, I might be hotter than you.:p

I second that motion, and I love to argue. They're the best.:D

Although, blueranne, I might be hotter than you.:p

I will take that as a compliment so, thank you.

Fact: Between the bromance, the blushing, and Anon getting ready to drop serious $ to go to SF and kick it with Andy (all the while asserting he's hotter than Blue)...

You guys are cracking...me...UP!

(It probably doesn't help that I've been watching a bunch of Adam Lambert vids tonight.)

I'm a very curious person.

I'm attracted to people, not gender:p

I am not attracted per say but I can appreciate a good looking guy. Especially one that works hard and maintains a good physique.

That being said I am attracted to females. All sizes, shapes, ages and nationalities. :)

Just to be clear, I-am-"not"-attracted-to-the-same-sex. I find it kind of odd that I have to keep making this clear. ha-ha

Just to be clear, I-am-"not"-attracted-to-the-same-sex.

You're clear. :) Actually, you've been clear to me. I just thought this exchange over the last few pages was hilarious! It's not too often that a comment will actually make me laugh out loud, but this particular comment thread did. So, thanks everyone! I needed a little levity tonight.

This all made me laugh.

Staying up both nights was not good for me.

Make that 3 nights. :(

You've been awake for three nights?

Good moods give me insomnia, leading to bad moods.

Sometimes this place gives me the creeps.

I like listening to the rain when I'm going to sleep. It's so relaxing.....

I like listening to the rain when I'm going to sleep. It's just so soothing.....


I'm quite the opposite, I find myself wide awake on rainy nights all too often. Not only the sound, but when its foggy the light from streetlights carries more, and any light disturbs my sleep. I guess my brain is just picky.

I-can't-wear-skinny-jeans-because-my-****-don't-fit.

I don't understand. But I can't wear them because they'd make me feel claustrophobic and because my legs are too big; I'd look like someone from an '80s cop movie.

I believe Kirby is shysmile's evil twin, as shy has cute and friendly looking bunnies for an avatar, Kirby has ones that look like they want to rip your eyes out.

This avatar's in the mother****ing Owsla !

I-can't-wear-skinny-jeans-because-my-****-don't-fit.

I don't wear skinny jeans because I don't like 'em. :p

This avatar's gosh darn evil lookin !

Fix'd

I'm not really in the Owsla. (guardian class of rabbits in Watership Down)

I am ****ed. I got two web updates lumped on me today. I got them done and stayed later then I had to. I go online now, and they are not on the website yet.:mad::mad::mad:

Sometimes I feel gyped by English literature. The very beginning of Boccaccio's Decameron reads, "TO THE LADIES".

My bus is stuck and were moving forward a fer meters at a time.

Now I'm not moving at all

Today my baby turns two! No more diapers here she comes!

I had to cancel on a "friend" coming over tonight, because I forgot I had a friend's birthday party to go to.:(

Thank you ADD!:rolleyes:

I crushed the bone in my elbow, thought it was just a small crack, was expecting to hear 'wow you have super human rejenerative powers and your broken arm is all healed in 8 days" not "you'll need physio and your arm is going to take 3 months AT LEAST!!!

You've been awake for three nights?

Well... technically yes. I have not slept *during the night* for the last 3 nights at least, probably way more than that actually. But, I have been going to bed around 4-6 the last 3 nights, and getting up between 7-9. Hopefully tonight will be restful because I'm making a several hour drive tomorrow, but then I hope that I can finally relax if I'm not able to tonight.

I crushed the bone in my elbow, thought it was just a small crack, was expecting to hear 'wow you have super human rejenerative powers and your broken arm is all healed in 8 days" not "you'll need physio and your arm is going to take 3 months AT LEAST!!!


I'm sorry.:(

Random Fact:

Somedays after leaving lab, I continue to "smell" organic solvents for hours afterwards even though I'm particularly careful about my exposure to them.

I crushed the bone in my elbow, thought it was just a small crack, was expecting to hear 'wow you have super human rejenerative powers and your broken arm is all healed in 8 days" not "you'll need physio and your arm is going to take 3 months AT LEAST!!!

Ouch! How did ya do that?

I broke my elbow catching myself while tripping over an outside step. Wife fell down a flight of stairs and only bruised her foot. Same day, no kidding.

Ouch! How did ya do that?

I broke my elbow catching myself while tripping over an outside step. Wife fell down a flight of stairs and only bruised her foot. Same day, no kidding.

Wow. You wife sounds tough. I still have yet to really "break" a bone. I had one really ugly dislocation in one of my fingers that chipped a bit of the joint, but I've never actually broken a bone. I hope I never do.

How does that even happen on the same day? Lol.

sorry to hear about your elbow ginnie.

I broke a bone in my hand once, punching a wall. It would have been miserable if I hadn't got a waterproof cast.

Wow. You wife sounds tough. I still have yet to really "break" a bone. I had one really ugly dislocation in one of my fingers that chipped a bit of the joint, but I've never actually broken a bone. I hope I never do.

How does that even happen on the same day? Lol.

Klutzy meets klutzy. LOL
Actually, we were on our way out to dinner. She fell down early in the morning and I did it on our way out, around 7ish. Made it through dinner and dessert then had to go to the urgent care.

I have breaks all over. Collarbone, wrist, 3 fingers and 2 bones inside the hand and last but not least the elbow.

Metz is this just klutzyness or is some of it sports injuries or something work related?

Metz is this just klutzyness or is some of it sports injuries or something work related?

Sports, but in stupid ways.

Collarbone @ age 6. Flipped my judo instructor.
Right pinky @ age 8. Catching a thrown ball in dodgeball.
Inside hand @ age 12. Jumping a fence to retrieve a whiffle ball.
Right Wrist @ age 13. Bike racing in a buddies back yard.
Two Fingers @ age 14. Playing football, caught a pass awkwardly.
Left Elbow @ age 30. Slipped on ice, caught myself.

This is how I feel about this place:

"Back where I belong, yeah I never felt so strong"

P. Diddy "I'm coming home"

LOL

Dont feel bad metzfanaz i am always falling down or running into something and getting hurt. I can trip over air. I have fell down the basement stairs 3 times. Ive broken my arm, my foot twice, my collarbone, my ribs, and tore out my ACL and meniscus. I can't help it. I dont try to fall down!

Random fact: I once hooked up with a guy in a convenience store bathroom. It wasnt as romantic as it sounds.

The most irritating argument a person can ever use against me is "you're smart".

The most irritating argument a person can ever use against me is "you're smart".

I'm curious because I wish people would argue this about me! how is this the most irritating argument? how is arguing that someone is smart an argument?

There should be a laugh button!

Smart? I'm going to guess. My guess is that sometimes people say it in a way that makes you feel guilty for being so smart.

theyre just jealous!! haha If someone is smart it's a gift to them and everyone around them I believe :)

I'm curious because I wish people would argue this about me! how is this the most irritating argument? how is arguing that someone is smart an argument?

If it's anything related to how I feel about it, I totally understand. It's irritating to hear "You're such an intelligent person" ALL the effing time from people mainly because it's generally followed by "You really need to do something with that intelligence"...

Because I haven't tried a hundred times already?! http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3659/boredn.gif

It's about the same as being told my entire life that I have "Such a pretty face". Well, gee, thanks. http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/740/thumbg.gif Glad to know that's about the only thing pretty about me. http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5774/flatn.gif

On another note, figured I'd finally post a pic of the new do. ;) It's funny how when I intentionally try to do something with it, it turns out like crap. When I accidentally do something (in this case bleach the whole mistake I created to begin with) I ended up liking it...Haha! http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9894/laughp.gif

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7894/image03222011121522.jpg

I'm curious because I wish people would argue this about me! how is this the most irritating argument? how is arguing that someone is smart an argument?



Mom(she also has adhd with very bad temper): I won't accept anything below A+

Me: But I hate school, as long as I pass I'm satisfied

Mom: NO YOURE SMART YOU GO STUDY NOW!

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Me: When I finish high school I'll be free and I won't go to university I'll do anything but that

Parents: You're smart you have no excuse

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Even some of my teachers used that argument


science teacher: You are smart, so I won't allow you to hang with your bad friends, I better not see with them!

Was gonna post this earlier and I started typing it but....(long story)

I broke my arm the day before a family vacation. My brother was on my bike and I was on my roller skates (remember those?) "skiing" behind him holding onto a rope. I decided I was going too fast so I dropped the rope and put on the brakes. Both at once. Can you say stupid? LOL. Remember those stoppers on the toes? Good thing about having a broken arm on that long car ride was if my brother got annoying, I could bop him over the head with my cast. But then I couldn't swim in the ocean (it may have been my first time seeing the ocean) and I couldn't ride a lot of rides at Disney World.

On another note, figured I'd finally post a pic of the new do. ;) It's funny how when I intentionally try to do something with it, it turns out like crap. When I accidentally do something (in this case bleach the whole mistake I created to begin with) I ended up liking it...Haha! http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/9894/laughp.gif

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7894/image03222011121522.jpg

Very pretty hair!

I love your hair too! I have purple streaks, which I had to bleach first since my hair is dark. What's your natural color? One of my friends dyes her hair so much she can't remember what color it was to start with! :)