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gabriela 07-10-04, 04:07 PM i *think* this post could be placed in this forum...
;)
please tell me i'm not the only one who's extremely *annoyed* (yet somehow strangely "happy", for want of a better word...;-) when he or she finds a misspelled word or a sentence that's really *badly* put together!
:p
this is what i found in dr. amen's "healing add":
"seeing her struggle, i had went back and looked at her prior scan."
(page 96)
:D
i *"delight"* in looking for, and finding these...
(*sick*, isn't it?!;-)
one of my best friends has dyslexia, and so i'm *not* talking about laughing at this kind of problem...
it's just that i feel that if someone's gone through all the trouble of printing a magazine/newspaper/book/pamphlet or something "public", they should/could at least have checked the spelling and grammar!
finding a really glossy and expensive-looking brochure with bad spelling and/or grammar is (almost) like *christmas* to me!
:p
joanrdtobe 07-10-04, 04:18 PM I'm totally totally totally with you all the way on this one Gabriela....Especially now that there are computer spell checks, grammar checks, computer dictionaries, etc. available ....It takes little time.....Misspelled words and bad grammar drive me nuts.....
My co-worker (she's a professional) answers the phone "with whom am I speaking to please"? ARRGH......The fact that she gets the "WITH WHOM" right is great.....but then messes it up by adding the "to"???? double ARRGH.....
gabriela 07-10-04, 04:23 PM My co-worker (she's a professional) answers the phone "with whom am I speaking to please"? ARRGH......The fact that she gets the "WITH WHOM" right is great.....but then messes it up by adding the "to"???? double ARRGH.....LMAO!
:D:D :D
joanrdtobe 07-10-04, 04:26 PM I don't know you one iota, Gabriela....but I LOVE you and I hope you have a BLESSED day....
Love, Joan
gabriela 07-10-04, 04:28 PM maybe we should start a thread with grammatically and "spellingly" (;-) messed up posts?
;)
gabriela 07-10-04, 04:31 PM and joanrdtobe - i LOVE you, and i wish you a BLESSED day, too!
:)
us grammar nerds have to stick together!
:D
i'm off to bed now (it's 10:30 pm over here in sweden), so:
god natt och sov gott!
:p
FtLaudWolf 07-15-04, 06:36 PM Gabriela, I'm a writer, therefore I sympathize with you completely. I always want to redo other people's work, even my own peers.
Even as I'm posting this reply, I'm nervous that there is no spellcheck automatically underscoring my words as I type.
For such a glaring error to be contained in a self-help book, though...
It would completely ruin any authenticity I might otherwise derive from it.
Cary
maverick_princess 07-15-04, 09:07 PM Being a writer I had to come in and jump in this thread!
Yes I'm a writer but I'm admitting to having taken English Grammar in college twice!
I used to go through everything to check for grammar, misspelled words, etc -- and used to like it -- until I had to do it for a living. LOL
jaimegerise 07-15-04, 10:36 PM OMG, it drives me NUTS when I see spelling or grammar errors in publications or, heck, even signs out in public! LOL
But like in chat and forums and stuff, eh, no biggy, sometimes anyway...heh
irish guy 07-15-04, 11:12 PM OMG, it drives me NUTS when I see spelling or grammar errors in publications or, heck, even signs out in public! LOL
But like in chat and forums and stuff, eh, no biggy, sometimes anyway...heh
I find the errors quite humorous...and it reenforces the fact that I'm no the only one with lanagauge LD's.:D
Actually it just shows how lazy computers have made us...nobody proofreads anymore, they'll say they do when all they're really doing is a spell check.
FtLaudWolf 07-15-04, 11:16 PM Oh, no, Irish... I spent too many years as an admin assistant not to be able to spot a comma out of place in a split second after looking at a page of a report. But it comes naturally for me. 90% of the times I know I'm making a mistake as soon as I've made it. I won't excuse the other 10%--but that's why I proofread.
irish guy 07-15-04, 11:28 PM I worked as a website manager...that was the always the reason given for bad grammer, wrong words...the spelling was right i would see hay instead of hat. Maybe i jumped to conclusions...but it is something that seems to have become more prevelant as computers have gotten better and better.
NeuroticGoddess 07-23-04, 02:03 AM One of my BIGGEST pet peeves...there/their, your/you're....ok that was 2 but anyways you get my point. I just thought I was an oddball bc I get so annoyed with people for not being 'grammatically correct'.
gabriela 07-23-04, 03:07 AM just had to check out this thread again!
:D
i've now read dr. daniel amen's book "healing add", and i "must" say that even though the book contains *a lot* of useful and interesting information it is, imho, very badly written...
:eek:
lilthingsADDup 07-23-04, 09:06 AM No offense gabriela, but I find your posts really difficult to read.
On ADHD board where many have reading and writing disorders also, we should try to have more understanding.
GOLDILOCKS 07-23-04, 09:15 AM I'm with you guys...I can't stand misspelling of OBVIOUS words. Chat rooms are an exception - they have their own rules. Using "ppl" for people or even "peeps" is acceptable & fine by me on a limited basis.
However, I can't stand the "dis" for "this" and "dat" for the word "that". Constant use of GHETTO words get on my last nerve. Then they wonder why noone takes them seriously? Well...WHO WOULD? Can you see your psychologist saying, "Yo word, see this is wassup: You messed up in da head & need some dope, yo...I forget dat u also takin dat other stuff man...When u get off dat, lemme know..yo?" "Today's session be 120.00...pay up."
FtLaudWolf 07-23-04, 10:07 AM lilthingsADDup said:
No offense gabriela, but I find your posts really difficult to read.
On ADHD board where many have reading and writing disorders also, we should try to have more understanding.
I think the original gist of this topic involved finding errors in printed material, which, IMHO, bears a higher standard than what we do here. But furthermore, I think it's important to point out that many of us are obsessively nit-picky about grammatical errors. I am one of those people.
Even though I have clothes all over my bedroom floor.
Even though my desk is piled high with PAPERS-I-PRETEND-ARE-NOT-THERE-SO-I-CAN-IGNORE-THE-FACT-THAT-I-DON'T-KNOW-WHAT-MOST-OF-IT-IS.
God forbid something for which I am responsible shows just one error!
But there is a big difference between gritting my teeth but keeping my thoughts to myself when I see someone type something like, "What do you think about it's color," and actually posting something like, "Your grammatical mistakes insult me. Please use 'its' there in the future."
Frankly, by virtue of being obsessed about something and then acknowledging the obsession shows a measure of understanding rather than a lack of it.
With all that being said. Can you figure out my biggest peeve?:
ITS for IT'S
IT'S for ITS
gabriela 07-23-04, 11:00 AM No offense gabriela, but I find your posts really difficult to read..:confused:
exactly *what* is it about my post that makes you find them "really difficult to read"?
:confused:
On ADHD board where many have reading and writing disorders also, we should try to have more understanding.:confused:
exactly *when* did i display this lack in understanding?
:confused:
it was *never* my intention to offend those of you who struggle with dyslexia - in fact, one of my best friends has a really *bad* case of dyslexia (she was diagnosed earlier this year, and her reading and writing equals that of a fourthgrader), and so even though i don't have any problems in that particular area myself, i *know* what that's like...
:confused:
i would *never* write something derogative (spelling!!!) about people with dyslexia or their "bad spelling"...
i *think* this post could be placed in this forum...
;)
please tell me i'm not the only one who's extremely *annoyed* (yet somehow strangely "happy", for want of a better word...;-) when he or she finds a misspelled word or a sentence that's really *badly* put together!
:p
this is what i found in dr. amen's "healing add":
"seeing her struggle, i had went back and looked at her prior scan."
(page 96)
:D
i *"delight"* in looking for, and finding these...
(*sick*, isn't it?!;-)
one of my best friends has dyslexia, and so i'm *not* talking about laughing at this kind of problem...
it's just that i feel that if someone's gone through all the trouble of printing a magazine/newspaper/book/pamphlet or something "public", they should/could at least have checked the spelling and grammar!
finding a really glossy and expensive-looking brochure with bad spelling and/or grammar is (almost) like *christmas* to me!
:p
Could this be Schadenfreude?
gabriela 07-23-04, 02:36 PM no, it's not schadenfreude - it's more a case of my being *too* overfocused on linguistical matters...
i've always been a "language person", and one of the aspects of that is that i sort of have a "feel" for which words go together in different texts - i also find it interesting to read texts that are written by "specialists" on different subjects for "the average joe"; i've found many texts where the whole tone/feel of the language used is *"wrong"*...
this preoccupation with linguistical errors is something that is "typical" of asperger syndrome - instead of (like the majority of people) seeing the "whole picture" (i e the *message* of the text), people with asperger often focus on minute details like vocabulary use...
Wheezie 07-23-04, 02:41 PM whoa!
i've seen similar topics raise tensions really quickly! i'm not sure how to difuse them. i'm not sure why they get raised. seems to me it's usually a miscomunication error somewhere down the line.
george says, "i don't know why, but, big-toe-twiddling really bugs me. i just can't *stand* it. aren't i a nutter? why would something so benign bother me so intensly?"
then, a big-toe-twiddler comes along, reads it, and gets offended and thinks, "what's wrong with twiddling your big toes? what's his problem?"
there isn't a problem though. not for anyone except george, who acknowledges it when he says "... aren't i a nutter? ..."
i *really* don't think anyone is saying, that they are better, or smarter, or more "anything" than anyone else.
we're just all just a bit quirky which is what makes us so special! :)
please remember, everyone, that *real* people with *real* foibles and *real* feelings are behind every post.
peace, wheezie
gabriela 07-23-04, 02:53 PM yes indeed, wheezie: *PEACE*!!!
FtLaudWolf 07-23-04, 03:17 PM i've always been a "language person", and one of the aspects of that is that i sort of have a "feel" for which words go together in different texts[...]i've found many texts where the whole tone/feel of the language used is *"wrong"*
Gabriela, you sound like me talking here. Very strange how alike we are in this regard. Is it possible that you are a closet writer?
gabriela 07-23-04, 04:38 PM Gabriela, you sound like me talking here. Very strange how alike we are in this regard. Is it possible that you are a closet writer?:)
sure am - i'm working on "the great swedish novel"!
:D
seriously, though: i've *always* been a writer...
my first "book" was a little thing i wrote in 3rd grade: "the cat eyes in the closet" - a thriller that was *very* scary!!!
:D
i *"love"* writing and languages (do i come off as *too* weird-sounding if i admit to reading dictionaries and thesauri just for *fun*?!), and i also *"love"* reading!
i recently read john steinbeck's "east of eden" (in english), and it was *amazing*!!!
:cool:
FtLaudWolf 07-23-04, 05:25 PM It's been a few years since I browsed through a dictionary...okay, no it hasn't. dammit. A book I bought recently is entitled, Dictionnaire de la langue galoise because I was so fascinated in the language of the ancient celts but the book was only available in French! Very often I'd be looking at an entry only to go online to a translater to find out what it meant!
FlakeyGirl 07-23-04, 06:38 PM Nothing makes my day like hearing or reading an unfamiliar word. I can't wait to search out the meaning and etymology.
lilthingsADDup 07-24-04, 10:51 PM :confused:
exactly *what* is it about my post that makes you find them "really difficult to read"?
exactly *when* did i display this lack in understanding?
it was *never* my intention to offend those of you who struggle with dyslexia - in fact, one of my best friends has a really *bad* case of dyslexia (she was diagnosed earlier this year, and her reading and writing equals that of a fourthgrader), and so even though i don't have any problems in that particular area myself, i *know* what that's like...
:confused:
i would *never* write something derogative (spelling!!!) about people with dyslexia or their "bad spelling"...
When you *type* like "this", it is very *distracting*......
I think it is unnecessary (in my opinion) to use *asterisks* and "quotations" to *emphasize* words and phrases!!!!!
also, the lack of capitalization makes posts difficult to read, such as at the beginning of sentences or when you say "i".
Finally, excessive use of :)s
lilthingsADDup 07-24-04, 11:05 PM I'm with you guys...I can't stand misspelling of OBVIOUS words. Chat rooms are an exception - they have their own rules. Using "ppl" for people or even "peeps" is acceptable & fine by me on a limited basis.
However, I can't stand the "dis" for "this" and "dat" for the word "that". Constant use of GHETTO words get on my last nerve. Then they wonder why noone takes them seriously? Well...WHO WOULD? Can you see your psychologist saying, "Yo word, see this is wassup: You messed up in da head & need some dope, yo...I forget dat u also takin dat other stuff man...When u get off dat, lemme know..yo?" "Today's session be 120.00...pay up."
Alrighty, who is "them"? :confused:
I grew up in White Bread, USA and we used what you call "GHETTO" words all of the time. It is more of a youth thing than a ghetto thing. I've also known several people from the ghetto that were very articulate, more so than me.
What's the difference between "peeps" and "dat". Where I'm from both are slang and one wasn't better than the other.
gabriela 07-24-04, 11:23 PM When you *type* like "this", it is very *distracting*......
I think it is unnecessary (in my opinion) to use *asterisks* and "quotations" to *emphasize* words and phrases!!!!!
also, the lack of capitalization makes posts difficult to read, such as at the beginning of sentences or when you say "i".
Finally, excessive use of :)sfirst: you're using the *s all wrong...
*laughing "schadenfreudingly"*
second: i don't use ""s to emphasize words and phrases...
third: there *are* .s and ,s in my posts. ,s indicate where you take a short pause in your reading (may i suggest you count "one, two" before you continue reading?), and .s indicate where you take a somewhat longer pause (may i suggest you count "one, two, three" before continue reading?)
fourth: if my posts irritate you so much (i e are so hard for you to read), maybe in the future you should consider avoiding to read them?
(i believe you have the option of blocking users whose posts you don't want to read)
fifth::Ds and ;)s make life more fun (for *me* at least)!
sixth: since you're clearly not used to "net lingo" (that's "internet language" to you), i can understand that you're not aware of the fact that *s and the different smilies are used to avoid misunderstandings...
take this post, for example: if i *didn't* end it with a smilie, you may think i'm actually trying to *"lecture"* you on the subject of "net lingo" ( "internet language", remember?!) - which is exactly *why* i *am* ending it with
;)
no, wait - i *am* actually trying to *lecture"* you, so the proper smilie to end this post with would be *this* one: :rolleyes:
FtLaudWolf 07-25-04, 12:52 AM The use of *'s and smileys helps to emphasize those things we cannot otherwise demonstrate, such as sarcasm and levity.
This just proves that gabriela is more demonstrative than many of us! :D
Personally , I like to emphasize using italics around words. But those smileys can always be helpful when I don't feel like typing out my gestures.
beaming at my own cleverness
Cary
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