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Naga
08-12-10, 05:09 AM
Hello world, :)

First day of taking dex.
I had a restless sleep prior to my first dose of 5mg dex in the morning. Contrary to what the doc said would happen, I actually slept for another 2 hours and had a very deep relaxing sleep.

After my third dose for the day, I felt really tired and couldn't stop yawning.
Now the doc told me that in the the first 3 days I would be hyperactive, anxious and have difficulty sleeping. The exact opposite happened. I was deeply relaxed with no anxiety and felt like I could curl up and go to sleep anytime.

I would like to know if anyone else had this experience and what does this mean?

Thank you.

twinch42085
08-12-10, 04:27 PM
When I first started dexedrine at 5mg I too experienced sleepiness. I am assuming this is due to the lack of levo-amphetamine that is not in dexedrine. It doesn't effect me like that now.

Naussicaa
08-12-10, 07:19 PM
Dexedrine is very soothing!
Low doses will put me to sleep, higher doses will refresh me.

GrailKing
09-17-10, 09:17 PM
I have just started Dex 5mg and am feeling sleepy aswel. Slept all night and i usually need valium to sleep. I hope it doesnt continue to make me tired.

bobC
09-24-10, 07:21 PM
The increase in adrenaline from stimulants hit alpha2 receptors which is one of the only ways a person can spend more time in deeper stage 3-4 sleep cycles.

you can learn more about this effect by reading about clonidine's (an alpha2 agonist) effects on sleep.

Bobc

StoicNate
09-25-10, 01:56 AM
When I was on Dex, I also got sleepy and could fall asleep very easily.

CNC_fanatic
09-27-10, 01:50 PM
I agree to some extent. It's been about 3 weeks on it, and I can feel both stimulated and tired at the same time. I fall asleep very easily, but I do occasionally have cold sweats, nightmares, or wake up very early in the morning and simply can't fall back asleep.

I also seem to be able to be focused or motivated as I choose. I only get busy when I decide to... or not.

Question:.... Are there any other manufacturers who sell IR, or even ER, Dexedrine in the states? I have the BARR stuff, and it's kind of harsh. I feel it for sure; but it seems very strong for only 20mg/day. It also gives me the shakes and a nasty crash nearly every day... keep in mind that my baseline tolerance to stimulants is pretty high. Not that it's a ****ing contest or something.

It's less physical than the generic IR Adderall on the market, but I also feel like I have to take it every day just to be able to function. I remember there being a significant difference b/w different generic manufacturer's products.

I'll be a very loyal customer if I can find a mfg. w/ a purer product. I quit smoking cigs instantly after the first dose - which was a big deal for me after 3 yrs.

ideaman
09-27-10, 03:08 PM
Well 5mg is pretty low for some/many people, maybe you aren't feeling any effects of the drug.

Naga
09-28-10, 12:39 AM
Thanks for the reply guys.

bobc wrote:
The increase in adrenaline from stimulants hit alpha2 receptors which is one of the only ways a person can spend more time in deeper stage 3-4 sleep cycles.


That is interesting. But in my case I did not have any noticeable increase in adrenaline. The effect was more like all the tension dropping out of the body with breathing becoming deep and easy. This happened almost immediately about half an hour after I took 5mg.
My mind felt still and heavy like it was tightly held together. It was the best sleep I had in ages. :cool:

Now I am on 10 mg every 4 hours which is the best dose me thinks. I don't follow this regimen to the dot. It depends on the unfolding of my day after the first 10 mg so to speak.

Naussicaa wrote:
Dexedrine is very soothing!
Low doses will put me to sleep, higher doses will refresh me.

You are spot on. Dex is the king of all legal stimulants. :D

beyondcrazy
12-24-10, 11:08 AM
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This is my first post.


Dex makes me sleepy too.
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The more Dex I take the sleepier I get.
I take my last dose in the evening.


However, if I take Diazepam at bedtime it seems to inhibit the Dex from working and thus wakes me up.

ADHD that's me
08-16-12, 10:05 PM
After trying alternatives to stimulants (reboxetiene) but not having the expected result I just started on dex taking 15mg morning and 15mg afternoon, I am so sleepy n tired but a weird state of relaxation.... It's been 3 n a 1/2 days for me and my doc also said that it would possibly make me hyper or manic... well that hasn't happened... I'm actually kinda liking being in this state of chilled... I wonder how long it will last???...

bumblebe
08-17-12, 01:34 AM
I just switched from Adderall 30mg to Dexedrine 15mg ER last Thursday. I notice that I feel more spaced out. Something I’m not used to feeling when I am on Adderall.
<O:p</O:p
Another thing I notice is that when I am having a conversations with people, I feel so zoned. Normally I have to be mindful not to finish people’s sentences. I usually have so much I want to say in response and I ask a ton of questions. Adderall or no Adderall that is just a part of my character, I am normally fully engaged in conversations.

Now I don’t have anything to say back and find myself trying to think of something to say. I just feel so zoned out...does that make sense?

I am able to focus on homework though, so that hasn't changed.<O:p</O:p

bumblebe
08-17-12, 02:02 AM
Question:.... Are there any other manufacturers who sell IR, or even ER, Dexedrine in the states? I have the BARR stuff, and it's kind of harsh. I feel it for sure; but it seems very strong for only 20mg/day. It also gives me the shakes and a nasty crash nearly every day....

I get the shakes too. I didnt with the Adderall. I also have the Barr brand generic.

Notafadd
08-19-12, 05:17 PM
I find that the IR makes me sleepier, but the ER does not. I'm off ER for a variety of reasons (including cost!!). I've found that a dex and adderall combo helps with the sleepiness. I haven't quite worked out a good ratio for me yet though.

1/f-Rauschen
08-26-12, 03:21 AM
Dex makes me sleepy as well. When I started with 5mg, I thought to take Valium. Meanwhile I'm take 10mg per dose. It's a bit better. But when I take my 3rd dose, it makes me more sleepy than the previous ones.

It can happen, when I came home from work take a seat on my couch that I felt into sleep, somethimes only 5 mins, but this 5 mins is so deep sleep, when I wake up I thought it must be an hour or so..

In general I have the feeling I have positive effects 2 - 3 hours max. than slightly faded out.

Also I played whith the moment when I take a dose, before, during, after meal or on an empty stomach in the morning. No change! Has anybody tried the same?

Shaneus
08-30-12, 07:22 PM
I get sleepy, but that's dependant on dose. I actually thought that for the past 6 months or so I was on too high a dose and that was causing me to lose a lot of sleep, but I've since realised that having 5mg around 30mins before bed actually *helps* me! Seems so weird.

I still get a high heart rate (even when relaxed/about to go to sleep after having dex) but it seems insignificant compared to the benefits.

425runner
09-01-12, 07:11 PM
I also get sleepy after taking my Dexedrine ER 10mg in the morning, it happens about 2 hrs after I take it. I get so sleepy I need a nap. Dunno why this happens but I'm so fed up with it, I'm going back to Adderall.

DrZoidberg
09-20-12, 03:48 AM
I dose quite low, and dex only calmes me down. I experience no extra energy at all. That's the way I like it.

BMitch
01-25-14, 01:34 AM
Hi all.
I'm really interested in knowing if U noticed a difference between the Mallinkrodt & the Barr Dex IR or ER? I had a horrible experience w/ a generic Lexapro so I know for a fact that not all generics are created equal.

I just got off adderal & started Dex 2weeks ago. So far much much better than adderal. I Started w/ Barr as I didn't want to wait for Target to order Mallinckrodt, but if they're worth the hassle of taking script in a week early next time, I'll do it. Don't know if it's all Dex or just Barr, but I do feel very lethargic/apathetic/sleepy sometimes which is counterproductive.

Please let me know your observations & opinions.
Thanks a million, Barbara

dag nab it
01-25-14, 09:46 PM
Hi all.
I'm really interested in knowing if U noticed a difference between the Mallinkrodt & the Barr Dex IR or ER? I had a horrible experience w/ a generic Lexapro so I know for a fact that not all generics are created equal.

I just got off adderal & started Dex 2weeks ago. So far much much better than adderal. I Started w/ Barr as I didn't want to wait for Target to order Mallinckrodt, but if they're worth the hassle of taking script in a week early next time, I'll do it. Don't know if it's all Dex or just Barr, but I do feel very lethargic/apathetic/sleepy sometimes which is counterproductive.

Please let me know your observations & opinions.
Thanks a million, Barbara

Sorry to hear about your troubles. :( Try to titrate your doses as if you are taking ADHD meds for the first time. "Patience" is a magic word.

I took immediate release Dex for focus and to prevent afternoon sleepiness.

I was fine on the Barr Dextroamphetamine - but I had to find my own best dosing strategy. The "usual" way is to take it in the morning and afternoon - but that was not the best way for me. Originally, I took it the "usual" way, but I still needed to lie down and rest (but not sleep) in the afternoons. As the weeks progressed, I started to feel more and more depressed - so I stopped the meds. But I missed the good focus. On a hunch - thinking that the depression might be due to disrupted sleep - I tried a different dosing method. I decided to take ALL of my dose in the morning (from early morning up until around 11:30 a.m. plus or minus) - that way the meds would wear off by night time. As a result, the medicine worked so much better! It gave me great focus in the earlier part of the day and helped me stay awake and alert through the afternoon and the rest of the day. Most importantly, I did not get depressed. I did two different things: (1) changed the timing of my doses, and (2) changed my habits so that I did the work requiring strongest focus in the early part of the day. I did not have to play too much with factor (3), the dose itself.

My last fill was with Wilshire Dextroamphetamine from Target - and it did not work so well - I had erratic focus, it put me to sleep, or I fell asleep in the afternoons despite medication. I got it to work, only to find that the following day the same dose felt like an overdose. Maybe that is factor (3)!

My first suspicion about your experience is that the dose is wrong for you. Take less one day and ..... wait. Write down what happens and how you feel. Your observations will give you an idea about whether the dose is right and the best timing for your next dose. People differ A LOT in how they metabolize meds. Assume you need less in the beginning and see how you feel. Then try taking more - and see how you feel.

Something funny about Dex - I needed to drink more coffee than usual in the mornings. Somehow I felt that I was not awake enough - even though I did have good focus, I did want that coffee. Once it was afternoon, I no longer wanted the coffee.

InvitroCanibal
01-28-14, 07:24 PM
I just switched from Adderall 30mg to Dexedrine 15mg ER last Thursday. I notice that I feel more spaced out. Something Iím not used to feeling when I am on Adderall.
<O:p</O:p
Another thing I notice is that when I am having a conversations with people, I feel so zoned. Normally I have to be mindful not to finish peopleís sentences. I usually have so much I want to say in response and I ask a ton of questions. Adderall or no Adderall that is just a part of my character, I am normally fully engaged in conversations.

Now I donít have anything to say back and find myself trying to think of something to say. I just feel so zoned out...does that make sense?

I am able to focus on homework though, so that hasn't changed.<O:p</O:p

This is an example of too much. The sleepyness can fade into foggyness. My doc warned me of it, just take less if you feel sleepy or zombified.

InvitroCanibal
01-28-14, 07:25 PM
And yes I get sleepy or foggy if I took too much. The other aspect is hyperfocused and anxious. All signs of too much. Hope that helps

DmxDex
06-14-14, 12:32 PM
I get extreme tiredness on 10mg. Tried sticking with dexedrine since August. Can't adjust. Tiredness, and agitation, nervousness, and jittery. Only 2 meds I know I can try in the UK is focalin or dex ER

HADDaball
06-14-14, 05:57 PM
There could be lots of reasons for feeling tired, but the patient info says excessive tiredness may could be serious. May want to discuss it with your doc soon. http://www.dexedrine.com/aboutdexedrine.asp

InvitroCanibal
07-15-14, 01:42 PM
Hello world, :)

First day of taking dex.
I had a restless sleep prior to my first dose of 5mg dex in the morning. Contrary to what the doc said would happen, I actually slept for another 2 hours and had a very deep relaxing sleep.

After my third dose for the day, I felt really tired and couldn't stop yawning.
Now the doc told me that in the the first 3 days I would be hyperactive, anxious and have difficulty sleeping. The exact opposite happened. I was deeply relaxed with no anxiety and felt like I could curl up and go to sleep anytime.

I would like to know if anyone else had this experience and what does this mean?

Thank you.

Yup, I take more than you though, at 80mgs a day in four 20mg divided doses every four hours or so. I take 20-30 mgs right before bed. 20 works but 30 lasts a little longer and I don't like waking up at 2am just to redose.

At lower doses I tend to get more of the stimulation effect your doc refers to. I call the upper doses my threshhold of calm. Usually if I were to take like say, three 30 mg doses, I'd be a zombie. It's very mg per a mg sensitive for me. Anything above 20mgs and i'm a zombie. 17.5 mgs is actually a bit more calming, I just get lazy about splitting the tabs and get neurotic about whether I split the 10mg tab into 2.5 mgs or 3.5 mgs because then i'm stuck with a 1.5 mg tab that might make me more jittery when I need to focus.

At the 5 mg range I get the sweats, I feel sorta anxious, and feel kinda queezy oddly enough. At 20mgs I feel calm and a bit sleepy, don't really notice much else. Well, my hand writing improves actually.

Your dose may just need to go lower, is all I am saying. To avoid the sedating effect. 1.5 mgs still affects me, it just affects me differently. I tailor my doses to my needs of that day. More cleaning= lower doses of like 10 mgs or so. More studying= 15-20mgs. If i'm gonna exercise, then like 2.5 mgs to 5 mgs. I've taken this stuff for years, no tolerance to speak of, I just udnerstand how the med works in my system really well and use it to my advantage.

HyperKraut
07-15-14, 01:56 PM
Hi,

when I started on dexamphetamine (IR), I took 1.25mg (no typo!) and it made be really tired, but increased my sexual drive on the other side. Awkward combo...

After I increased to 2.5mg (twice daily), things got better.
I don't expierience an artificial awakefulness like I had on ritalin, but I do notice that my nasty afternoon sleepyness would stop after taking my pills.

So, on the awakefullness scale, dex 1.25mg was like -20%, while dex 2.5mg is more like +10% (I can sleep quite well even after taking it in the evening) and ritalin IR 30mg was like + a googolplex %. (I now combine dex with venlafaxine, that's why I only need 2.5mg of dex although I took 30mg of ritalin earlier)