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			<title>Chirping Watch</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:40:00 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I was just reading an idea of having a watch that chirps every 15 minutes. I am thinking wow what a great idea, stopping every 15 minutes throughout the day to refocus on priorities and update my task list. Problem is I don't know of any watch/clock that does that without setting every 15 minutes...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was just reading an idea of having a watch that chirps every 15 minutes. I am thinking wow what a great idea, stopping every 15 minutes throughout the day to refocus on priorities and update my task list. Problem is I don't know of any watch/clock that does that without setting every 15 minutes as an alarm. Does anyone here already do this? What kind of watch will do this?</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Just switched from Sandoz to Barr's Adderall XR!]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 18:21:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Okay my pharmacy just switched manufacturers of my Adderall XR from Sandoz to Barr for some ungodly reason.  The way I was feeling made me stumble upon this website and I see a lot of people complaining about both types.  I can honestly say there is a huge difference.  I was on Sandoz 20mg x 2 a...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Okay my pharmacy just switched manufacturers of my Adderall XR from Sandoz to Barr for some ungodly reason.  The way I was feeling made me stumble upon this website and I see a lot of people complaining about both types.  I can honestly say there is a huge difference.  I was on Sandoz 20mg x 2 a day and I felt normal for once.  Concentration was back, I talked slower, my thoughts had pure meaning, no panic attacks or insomnia and my social anxiety was much better.  I was on Sandoz for 2 months.  We'll last week the pharmacy warned me they had switched manufacturers and that the pill would look different but would be the same.  I call full on BullS...  I feel horrible, and tired.  It has done the opposite to me and I can't explain enough how devastated I am that they would do this to me.   The question I have is this.  Should I contact my Doctor or the pharmacy regarding this issue?  And will they be able to substitute my prescription of the Barr for Sandoz XR?  The only problem is I am out of town for my mothers surgery and won't be back in town until a week from now 6/26/13.  I don't want to stop taking it because it does keep my anxiety down better than when I'm not on anything.  And I'm afraid I will have a full blown panic attack if I just stop.  <br />
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Anyone else have their manufacturer recently changed on them and have the same effects?  Preferably on a recent refill of BARR's.  I know I found articles that explained a recall with Barr's Adderall awhile back because of issues similar to this.  Is there a possibility they made the same mistake in the production of this shipment.  Because my quality of life just took two steps in the wrong direction on Barr's adderall XR.<br />
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Any help is appreciated.</div>

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			<dc:creator>txstate9282</dc:creator>
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			<title>What I Have Learned......EF...</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:55:24 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>.......I could live with the forgetfulness, the spaciness, and all the other stupid effects that ADHD bestows on me ....I am an artist and it is a well known folk lore fact that artists are strange......I even had one of my instructors at the Art Institute tell us that we have to be strange...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><font face="Trebuchet MS"><font size="4">.......I could live with the forgetfulness, the spaciness, and all the other stupid effects that ADHD bestows on me ....I am an artist and it is a well known folk lore fact that artists are strange......I even had one of my instructors at the Art Institute tell us that we have to be strange ,.....we have a license to be strange .....it is our bounded duty .....</font></font><br />
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<font face="Trebuchet MS"><font size="4">....but the one blasted thing that I cannot deal with and the thing that has caused me more trouble than all the other symptoms combined.....is my executive function , or lack thereof......</font></font><br />
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<font face="Trebuchet MS"><font size="4">.....I cannot make myself do anything I don't really want to do, unless the consequences are ..oh say kicked out of a house cause I didn't pay the rent, or my internet turned off because I didn't pay that bill .....those are immediate consequences .....oh I still wait till the last minute ...but when my back is against the wall .....I will deal ....</font></font><br />
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<br />
<font face="Trebuchet MS"><font size="4">.....but when things are down the road, or I don't know what to do about something that has horrendous consequences.....I shine it on ......more interesting things to do even if it's just reading another GD book ! ......for the last couple of weeks, I have done pretty much nothing but read, about 2 books a day ....my flea market stuff in under control ....could do more, and sell more on ebay, it's all about the turn over .....but I am getting by .....so I keep putting it off ....</font></font><br />
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<font face="Trebuchet MS"><font size="4">...I am not even posting much here, or with my cheezfrendz or with my vintage watch forum ....just reading ....with the very occasional project that I do ..and the dishes.....</font></font><br />
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<font face="Trebuchet MS"><font size="4">...I have stern talks with myself ....I don't listen ...</font></font><br />
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<font face="Trebuchet MS"><font size="4">...I try to bribe myself ...but that doesn't work ....if I want something and I can rob Peter to pay Paul ....I get it ....</font></font><br />
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<font face="Trebuchet MS"><font size="4">....not a jot of will power ....and if anything it's getting worse as I get older ....</font></font><br />
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<font face="Trebuchet MS"><font size="4">...I don't expect any answers, I doubt there are any ....:eyebrow:</font></font><br />
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<br />
<font face="Trebuchet MS"><font size="4">......I'm like a little kid .....NO ! I don't wanna do that ....and then I don't .....it's a ball and chain that prevents me from actually getting somewhere .....</font></font></div>

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			<dc:creator>salleh</dc:creator>
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			<title>The Most Critical Book</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:12:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>What ADHD related book has made the biggest impact on your life? I am brand new to studying ADHD. What book has helped you to most understand the NT mind, and how to best be able to relate to them? Also looking for the best books on ADHD Organizational skills? What changes have came as a direct...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>What ADHD related book has made the biggest impact on your life? I am brand new to studying ADHD. What book has helped you to most understand the NT mind, and how to best be able to relate to them? Also looking for the best books on ADHD Organizational skills? What changes have came as a direct result of reading the book? Thank You in advance.</div>

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			<title>What dopaminergic pathways do and do not do.</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:07:35 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>A simple observation. 
Dopaminergic pathways ORIENT attention. They  are NOT exclusively associated with the reward pathways. They are just  as much associated with the punishment pathways. 
 
Dopaminergic  neurones lock our attention onto the most relevant stimulus in our  environment. If that...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>A simple observation.<br />
Dopaminergic pathways ORIENT attention. They  are NOT exclusively associated with the reward pathways. They are just  as much associated with the punishment pathways.<br />
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Dopaminergic  neurones lock our attention onto the most relevant stimulus in our  environment. If that stimulus happens to be a teacher or a boss with a  bad attitude- then the results of taking stimulants may not be  desirable.<br />
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Furthermore, left brained, analytic attention drives a sympathetic response in and of itself. Every question begets another two questions, and soon we are turning this way and that in utter, overstimulated confusion.<br />
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Try  taking your stimulants and doing a right brained meditation exercise  like body scanning or a hypnosis/guided imagery exercise and all those  &quot;sympathomimetic&quot; effects will evaporate.<br />
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Stimulants are well  known to enhance learning in ANY population. If you have access to a  legal prescription, then have the sense to use it to train in the most  refined and stable attention that you can learn. The schools of thought  that teach these attentional skills are thousands of years old, and will  probably still be here long after modern psychiatry has been forgotten.<br />
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I will follow up with some new references in due course, but from my point of view this explains the big variability in results of stimulant medication.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Barliman</dc:creator>
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			<title>Waking up in the middle of the night drenched in sweat</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 12:09:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've been on dex for about 5 years now and have always tended to be a bit sweaty even before that. However, in the last year or two it has started to cause me unusual sleeping problems. I have a history of sleep onset insomnia but in the past I never had any problems staying asleep. I tend to have...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've been on dex for about 5 years now and have always tended to be a bit sweaty even before that. However, in the last year or two it has started to cause me unusual sleeping problems. I have a history of sleep onset insomnia but in the past I never had any problems staying asleep. I tend to have more problems waking up!<br />
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When I wake up in the middle of the night (and occasionally in the morning) I don't wake up in a cold sweat, I over-heat and then wake up drenched. During the warmer months it isn't a problem because I can sleep in just a sheet and my body heat dissipates. In Autumn I found I could avoid sweating by keeping my arms and shoulders uncovered.  Now it's winter down here and I have terrible circulation, so I have to be warm enough initially to fall asleep comfortably.<br />
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Over time I have used progressively thinner doonas and even bought a special breathable bamboo fibre one for $400, but it's still getting worse. My boyfriend has to have an extra doona on his side of the bed to stay warm. He's noticed that I radiate a lot of heat when I sleep now, but it wasn't that way at the beginning of the relationship 3 1/2 years ago. I think the over-heating results in poor quality sleep even before I wake up. I'm always tired even when I've gotten enough hours of sleep.<br />
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When I brought up the problem with my GP he said it is most likely the dex (since sweating is a side effect) and I should see the psych. Does it make sense that dex could be causing me to wake up in the middle of the night after I've been taking it for years and around 14-16 hours after I took my last dose of 10mg (IR)? Has anyone else had a similar experience?<br />
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I do have other dex related symptoms like a resting heart rate of 100bpm and sometimes shakiness. However, I don't really want to start playing around with different meds again unless I'm sure the dex is causing the sleeping problem. Ritalin didn't help as much and Strattera sounds like it has more side effects.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Sleepy Princess</dc:creator>
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			<title>Concerta Dosage, concerta vs methylphenidate IR</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:27:43 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Hi everyone,  
 
I have recently been put on to Concerta, this is my first time taking medications to help my ADHD as I have only been recently diagnosed. 
 
I have been prescribed 18mg per day to start off with, the days I have taken 18 Mgs I have not really felt anything positive from it then I...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi everyone, <br />
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I have recently been put on to Concerta, this is my first time taking medications to help my ADHD as I have only been recently diagnosed.<br />
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I have been prescribed 18mg per day to start off with, the days I have taken 18 Mgs I have not really felt anything positive from it then I start to feel knackered in the early evening. The effects on my concentration levels only last a couple of hours and are not that much different. <br />
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I did something naughty and took two 18MG tabs today and I feel a much better, I still feel the dose should be higher then I took today though. My biggest concern is my DR said I have to be on the 18mg Tabs for a whole month, to be honest I would rather not be taking them for 30 days if I have to have to deal with the aftermath later on in the day. Luckily in NZ medications are subsidized by our government and I only have to pay $3-5 for a full months script. <br />
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Also would love to hear from people who have tried Dexamphetamine for ADHD treatment and how they would compare to concerta<br />
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Cheers, <br />
<br />
Jordan :)</div>

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			<title>Combining pill bottles?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:21:31 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am currently going to study abroad in europe for 3+ months and so I had my doctor write me 3x scripts for focalin and 3x scripts for xanax. Is it okay to mix  all of the focalin into one bottle and all the xanax into another bottle or will I run into trouble doing this, especially in airports? I...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am currently going to study abroad in europe for 3+ months and so I had my doctor write me 3x scripts for focalin and 3x scripts for xanax. Is it okay to mix  all of the focalin into one bottle and all the xanax into another bottle or will I run into trouble doing this, especially in airports? I just dont want to be carying 6 bottles of medications with me and look like a maniac.</div>

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			<title>Generic Was Switched: Questions about Ritalin brand and insurance</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 10:20:13 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've been taking Ritalin (methylphenidate generic) for 8 years and about 2 months ago, my pharmacy switched to a different generic.  The old pills barely caused any agitation and helped me stay focused and functional.  The new pills make me agitated and it's deeply effecting my outlook on life. ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've been taking Ritalin (methylphenidate generic) for 8 years and about 2 months ago, my pharmacy switched to a different generic.  The old pills barely caused any agitation and helped me stay focused and functional.  The new pills make me agitated and it's deeply effecting my outlook on life.  I've become much more bitter and judgmental.  I have emotional issues from trauma that are a part of it, but I was managing things well before the switch.<br />
<br />
I contacted my pharmacy and several other pharmacies, all of which said they made the switch due to frequent back ordering.  I then contacted the distributors of the "good" pill and they said they were back ordered, as well.  I've tried to cope and make the best of this, but my outlook on life is just getting worse.  I'm strong enough and stable enough to cope until I find a solution, but I can't stay this way long term.<br />
<br />
From what I've read, many people prefer the Ritalin brand pills. I have no idea how much they cost, though.  At the moment, I only pay a $5 copay for the generic.  I'm on disability so I can't spend a ton of money on it.  <br />
<br />
Does anyone know how much Ritalin costs in the US?  Would insurance help cover any of the cost?  (I know it probably depends, but info about insurance would help)  Is there a way to get help paying for Ritalin?  Any other ideas or advice would help.</div>

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			<dc:creator>ponyo11t</dc:creator>
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			<title>Day 1</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:15:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Only been awake 3 hours and can already feel the lack of concerta. Im like a zombie. Yawning with streaming eyes.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Only been awake 3 hours and can already feel the lack of concerta. Im like a zombie. Yawning with streaming eyes.</div>

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			<dc:creator>electrogen</dc:creator>
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			<title>New member</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:39:30 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi I'm Karen 38 have a son Sam who is 13 diagnosed with ADHD summer 2011. 
 
Hope to have some questions answered or receive advice Tia]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hi I'm Karen 38 have a son Sam who is 13 diagnosed with ADHD summer 2011.<br />
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Hope to have some questions answered or receive advice Tia</div>

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			<dc:creator>Karenkelly</dc:creator>
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			<title>Low dose = sooo hungry</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:13:02 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I haven't got long to type this because I'm about to pass out and some impatient cats are waiting for me to feed them. 
 
It's weird. If I take 5mg more I will get appetite suppression, the meds will last 2 hours longer and I'd find it easier to get off my butt and I'd be making dinner by now. Even...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I haven't got long to type this because I'm about to pass out and some impatient cats are waiting for me to feed them.<br />
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It's weird. If I take 5mg more I will get appetite suppression, the meds will last 2 hours longer and I'd find it easier to get off my butt and I'd be making dinner by now. Even if the meds had worn off. <br />
<br />
But since I halved the dose and have gotten much better results I have this feeling like I haven't got enough food in the house. And I don't want to dive straight into the bad stuff before dinner. <br />
<br />
Anyway, I'm going to find myself some rice crackers to much on. Nom nom.</div>

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			<dc:creator>fracturedstory</dc:creator>
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			<title>love or lazy</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:09:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have wanted out of my relationship for a long time. a long time. my story is no different than anyone else. male female lots of love upfront, lots of problems, lots of resentment for everything that has transpired. It is almost as if I am too lazy to leave. I think I want a fresh start and a new...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have wanted out of my relationship for a long time. a long time. my story is no different than anyone else. male female lots of love upfront, lots of problems, lots of resentment for everything that has transpired. It is almost as if I am too lazy to leave. I think I want a fresh start and a new romance, but then to actually go through the motions and have to deal with someone as an EX and then start anew... well, it just sounds like too much work! :)<br />
<br />
So here I stay in a miserable sexless marriage wasting away hoping the knock at the door is the grim reaper with my card pulled so I can get the hell out of dodge. <br />
<br />
We have been together so long she thinks she knows and understands my A Day Day and can be a barroom psychologist. She has her own insecurities and hangups but I do not diagnose her for free, I keep my mouth shut unless we are arguing. Anyway, life sucks. We are supposed to get a new place. I wish in my feeble mind I was getting a new place with a new gf. But, it is a silent pipedream. I saw something about married people, that you TOLERATE one another. tolerate? what a waste. or is wanting round 2 a selfish unrealistic fantasy. I know that my girl will never aspire to once was. and I stay. let's go see a shrink so he can let us know which ones crazy.<br />
<br />
vent. vent. vent. blah. blah. blah. adhd everyday since birth. and til death.<br />
:eek::eek::eek:</div>

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			<dc:creator>cingulategyrus</dc:creator>
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			<title>Adderall xr dose and brand...</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2013 05:38:07 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>So im back on the adderall guys after a terrible experience with concerta. This time im on XR.  
 
Im still not sure about adderall for me because sometimes I love it and sometimes I hate it. What im noticing is that in low doses anything under 10mg IR it does nothing to help my adhd but simply...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So im back on the adderall guys after a terrible experience with concerta. This time im on XR. <br />
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Im still not sure about adderall for me because sometimes I love it and sometimes I hate it. What im noticing is that in low doses anything under 10mg IR it does nothing to help my adhd but simply causes me to get irritable and feelings of dysphoria. Ive read that many people have these feelings when too high a dose and im the exact opposite, just slightly too low and I feel like crap, like worse than without it. <br />
<br />
If I take 10mg IR I feel great, can focus, feel content without being anxious or paranoid or feeling bothered by the littlest things. Since I switch to the XR I thought it was causing me the strange discomfort and dysphoria with such the  low dose but then I read how some generics can cause these side effects... It seems like Im having a hard time finding the right balance of adderall to simply "feel normal" for a long enough period of time. I have only taken one 10mg XR per day so far and its making me feel awful, its also a generic Ive never heard of before.</div>

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			<dc:creator>MrMike223</dc:creator>
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			<title>Your Best ADD Jokes!</title>
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			<description>Hey all, share your best original ADD jokes. I will go first...sorry if lame... 
 
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Q: Did you hear what happened at the National ADD convention?<br />
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A: Nothing. Everyone forgot to show up! :D</div>

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