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Exuberantfrost 09-14-17 05:52 AM

Do you experience not being able to control your thoughts
 
It's funny how often I experience very small thing's, thing's that I rationally know aren't problematic, that gets to be a huge problem only because of the reason that I can't stop myself from dwelling on them. Very small thing's like someone saying a joke I don't quite understand, that I really don't have the need to understand by any means. But that my mind somehow force myself to use enormous amounts of energy on trying to analyse because I totally lack the ability to control my thoughts and use them on something constructive and interesting. It feels extremely frustrating and dumb. Like a brain that really wants to make create traps for itself 24/7.

Fluppets 09-14-17 05:59 AM

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I used to, but ever since Ive been on my medication this particular "symptom" has been severely reduced.

Exuberantfrost 09-14-17 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluppets (Post 1964331)
I used to, but ever since Ive been on my medication this particular "symptom" has been severely reduced.

I see. Interesting, what kind of medication made you more able to control your thoughts, if I may ask?

sarahsweets 09-14-17 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Exuberantfrost (Post 1964330)
It's funny how often I experience very small thing's, thing's that I rationally know aren't problematic, that gets to be a huge problem only because of the reason that I can't stop myself from dwelling on them. Very small thing's like someone saying a joke I don't quite understand, that I really don't have the need to understand by any means. But that my mind somehow force myself to use enormous amounts of energy on trying to analyse because I totally lack the ability to control my thoughts and use them on something constructive and interesting. It feels extremely frustrating and dumb. Like a brain that really wants to make create traps for itself 24/7.

Do you experience racing thoughts? Are you on any medication?

Exuberantfrost 09-14-17 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sarahsweets (Post 1964351)
Do you experience racing thoughts? Are you on any medication?

I've been on medication and has had some luck regulating. Unfortunately Clonidine, Quetiapin and Dexedrine made me so drowsy and exhausted, that I've decided to quit it and try and that has made these racing thought appear again.

kwalk 09-14-17 03:15 PM

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I've been less obsessive since I've been on gabapentin. I don't worry about much stuff anymore or obsess over stupid crap like that. If I start to I can actually control my mind and tell it to stop. I am more focused in turn. I didn't think I would ever be able to control stuff like that.

Fuzzy12 09-14-17 04:47 PM

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Yes I have a big big big problem with this. Always. All the time. Meds did help. Dexamphetamine. Anti depressants also helped to an extent.

TheGreatKing 09-14-17 04:50 PM

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i guess so but my impulsive nature is more damaging at times, then my thoughts.

Traveler5 09-14-17 09:44 PM

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Antidepressants have really helped me with this issue. And I am almost certain Adderall has helped me with it as well.

Batman55 09-15-17 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kwalk (Post 1964386)
I've been less obsessive since I've been on gabapentin. I don't worry about much stuff anymore or obsess over stupid crap like that. If I start to I can actually control my mind and tell it to stop. I am more focused in turn. I didn't think I would ever be able to control stuff like that.

Slightly off-topic, but since I am considering trying Gabapentin for 24/7 headaches, it's been interesting to discover recently it also can help control excessive rumination. It sounds like this may, in a roundabout way, help to increase focus on the task at hand.

I don't think I have any full-fledged mood disorder but I definitely do have a kind of "hair-trigger" temper which fluctuates up and down multiple times throughout a single day. The triggers can be stupid things, a lot of it (for me) is tied to "envy" and chronic comparison of myself to others. According to what I've seen this wild overreactivity/anger is common for ADHD, it's the "emotional dysregulation" aspect of it. I think I'd be able to function better overall, without this crap clogging up my mind every day.

What I wanted to ask is if you take Gabapentin at night/before sleep, or if you're able to use it during the day without drowsiness?

kwalk 09-15-17 12:56 AM

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I didn't realize I had a problem that could be helped with meds and I've been on meds before and already a depression medication. It really quiets the mind to the point where most of the time I'm telling myself to think lol. I thought it was a part of ADHD that couldn't be cured. Anyways, I take 300mg at night and I tried 100mg during the day but after about a week in my system I became more and more tired. I am sensitive to medication dosages so you may be different, and many other people take a hell of a lot of it during the day.

acdc01 09-15-17 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kwalk (Post 1964513)
I didn't realize I had a problem that could be helped with meds and I've been on meds before and already a depression medication. It really quiets the mind to the point where most of the time I'm telling myself to think lol. I thought it was a part of ADHD that couldn't be cured. Anyways, I take 300mg at night and I tried 100mg during the day but after about a week in my system I became more and more tired. I am sensitive to medication dosages so you may be different, and many other people take a hell of a lot of it during the day.

Wow, why don't they use this for adhders more? Uncontrolled thoughts seems to be the root off all problems for my adhd. I've always imagined that was the case for everyone.

That's really sucks you get such strong side effects.

Unmanagable 09-15-17 10:04 AM

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I control my thoughts better when I'm able to control my breath better, not to mention my consumption habits. I was amazed at how shallow my breaths used to be...along with my thoughts. lol Practicing breathing techniques when I'm not freaking or stressing out seems to be the key to it helping me more effectively when I do feel under pressure. Some days, all hell breaks loose anyway, be it in thought or externally.

Little Missy 09-15-17 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Exuberantfrost (Post 1964380)
I've been on medication and has had some luck regulating. Unfortunately Clonidine, Quetiapin and Dexedrine made me so drowsy and exhausted, that I've decided to quit it and try and that has made these racing thought appear again.

Huh. Seroquel is making you have racing thoughts?

PoppnNSailinMan 09-15-17 12:44 PM

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Overthinking seems to be a part of ADHD for a lot of people.

My mind sometimes gets caught in what feels like a vicious loop and just keeps going over and over and over some issue again and again and again. But most of the time, since I have no new information, there's nothing at all productive about doing this.

I few weeks ago, I happened to come across Dr. Charles Parker's CorePsych blog site and was kind of interested in the way that he describes ADHD because instead of concentrating on outward behaviors like the DSM does, he looks at "common functional ADHD-related brain activities" among which is what he calls "Thinking ADHD." He describes "Thinking ADHD" as being characterized by thinking, thinking, thinking, and then thinking some more, analyzing, double analyzing, fretting, worrying, etc. and never acting. According to Parker, "to the untrained eye, this type of ADHD looks like 'OCD,' and is often misdiagnosed as such." There is certainly a kind of obsessiveness in the way I think sometimes.

On the issue of overthinking, I'm reminded, too, that some experts on ADHD talk about how the minds of people with ADHD often latch on to things and won't let them go as a way of trying to focus. In his book, Shadow Syndromes, John Ratey talks about how people with mental disorders have a metaphorically "noisy brain." As he says, "internal noise affects our ability to work efficiently and well in other ways, too. For one thing, many people in a state of noise cope by 'focusing down' - by drastically narrowing their field of vision." One example he gives of "focusing down" is pacing, which he says, offers an "organizing, noise-reducing effect." LOL...And I pace a lot when I'm thinking, thinking, thinking, analyzing and double analyzing.


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