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sarahsweets 07-01-18 03:12 PM

Child gets embarrassing add award.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny-n...630-story.html

I put this here because it involved a child. Despicable.

psychopathetic 07-01-18 04:05 PM

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I hate this. This upsets me.

And I'm okay that my opinion differs.

But COME ON! Is it not obvious that the teacher here was doing this out of fun? I mean I guess I can see how it's offensive...but can't imagine for a second it was intended to be so! The teacher was trying to have fun with her class!

Sounds to me like the mom might be a bit of a drama queen. Taking legal action!? haha.../grrrrrr! This is such a sue hungry country that it frustrates me.

Finding good teachers is tough. I think this teacher did what they did 100% out of love and kindness. They didn't mean for it to hurt anyone at all.

I don't know.
This story frustrates me. I think it's being waaaaaaay overblown.

Sorry if my opinions here have upset anyone.

(((Hugs)))

AdultADHD 07-01-18 04:51 PM

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The mother and little boy can make an award for The Teacher Most Likely to Be Taught By a Lawsuit and he can present hang it up in the classroom for all the class to see. :)

All in fun, just like she did, of course. ;-)

namazu 07-01-18 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by psychopathetic (Post 1999105)
Is it not obvious that the teacher here was doing this out of fun?

No, it really isn't, at least not to me.

Maybe it was fun for the teacher to be a bully (which is sick, really), but clearly it wasn't fun for the child whose disability was used to make fun of him and highlight his weaknesses in front of his whole class.

It seems like a huge lapse in judgment and empathy on the teacher's part.

I don't know that making a lawsuit out of it is a great response. However, the teacher definitely needs to know that humiliating students isn't cool. A sincere apology -- if she's capable of seeing how she hurt the student -- and a bunch of remedial education about disabilities might be useful here, along with a reprimand.

tudorose 07-01-18 07:51 PM

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Hmmm sounds like the teacher needs to do some diversity training

psychopathetic 07-01-18 08:24 PM

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Yeah, but I don't think the teacher WAS being a bully. At all. Not even close. I could be wrong who knows...but the way I'm seeing things, is she did NOT do this out of spite or to be mean or to pick on the kid.
I genuinely feel it came from a place of love/silliness and that it's being blown way out of proportion.

I don't know...I get frustrated when people blow things out of proportion and make small issues into big major drama events that just don't need to exist.

I feel dang bad for the teacher here based on the tiny amount of info I've been given.

I'd like to know what other awards she gave out to the other students. I'd like to know more about the mother. And I'd like to know what the kid genuinely feels about it through his own voice...not through what the mother says he felt.

TygerSan 07-01-18 09:27 PM

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I think it really depends on the kid and on the teacher and on their relationship with each other. The teacher may have intentionally been a bully, or it might have been an attempt at humor that backfired horribly.

There are a couple of teachers I know who have a sense of humor and teasing nature that works to establish rapport with kids who otherwise struggle. But it always makes me cringe a little but because when it’s a successful strategy it works really well, but when it backfires it’s horrendous.

I’d like to think that I could laugh about getting that award now, as an adult, provided that it was from someone who I know and respect. But as a teenager who was struggling with fitting in and failing miserably, it wouldn’t have mattered who it came from, and it probably would have just been more ammunition for my “peers”.

namazu 07-01-18 09:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by psychopathetic (Post 1999115)
Yeah, but I don't think the teacher WAS being a bully. At all. Not even close. I could be wrong who knows...but the way I'm seeing things, is she did NOT do this out of spite or to be mean or to pick on the kid.
I genuinely feel it came from a place of love/silliness and that it's being blown way out of proportion.

Yeah, you may be right -- it may have been intended in jest, hoping that the kid would think it was funny.

Nonetheless, in my opinion, it was a bone-headed move that made the child cry. An experienced teacher should know better than to joke about a child's disability in front of the class, even if it's a joke between the child and the teacher.

Again, I think our society can be overly-litigious, too, and it may be that this is being blown out of proportion and the child is being further humiliated by the extra attention his mom/the media/etc. are calling to the situation. But teachers shouldn't mock kids' problems publicly.

The teacher would've been much better off sticking with "most improved in social studies" -- that's something worthy of an award, and it focuses on the child's accomplishment, not his difficulties.

psychopathetic 07-01-18 09:52 PM

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I don't know. I just don't like this. Something seems off here to me. I don't trust the mom here. I want to go in trusting the teacher. And I'm not sure why it's that way...why I'm willing to blindly trust one, and not the other. But it is what it is.
Not enough info to go off of.

Plus I just don't like drama. I get upset when people blow things out of proportion.
The mom wanting to take legal action? It upsets me. I can feel it in the center of my chest. lol...teachers have it rough already. To me it's absolutely crystal clear that this teacher was doing this from a very warm/goofy heart. To think she was doing it to be mean in anyway is just ridiculous to me.

Again, there's just not enough info for me here. Too much of this story is left blank...and I just don't trust everything I read. I have bad feelings towards the mom for whatever reason.

I really don't like this.
And I don't like how society is so quick to jump on the teacher and treat her like a horrid person...without questioning more. Without needing more info.
But then again I'm no better or no different...cause I'm doing the exact same thing with the mother here.
So yeah...lol I should probably move on from this. I don't know why I'm reacting so strongly to this >.<'. I don't feel bad about it...but it is upsetting me.

namazu 07-01-18 10:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by psychopathetic (Post 1999120)
lol...teachers have it rough already. To me it's absolutely crystal clear that this teacher was doing this from a very warm/goofy heart. To think she was doing it to be mean in anyway is just ridiculous to me.

Yes, I agree that teachers have it rough, and it's likely that this was meant to be funny (though the teacher's sense of humor in the classroom may need some recalibration).

I've had the privilege of learning from some fabulous teachers, and known others who were incredible people who were great at their jobs. It is not an easy job.

But I've also occasionally met some teachers who were downright mean and insensitive to students with disabilities or other issues -- who mocked students for being slow, who hassled students for having "magical backpacks" from which assignments mysteriously vanished, who gave students grief for having poor fine motor control.

So I, too, viscerally react to stories like this. If the teacher hadn't made an unwise decision -- namely, to call the whole class' attention to the student's disability-related weaknesses -- then there wouldn't have been anything to blow out of proportion in the first place. I wouldn't say, based on the info we got from the story, that the teacher is necessarily "a horrid person" -- just one who made an insensitive choice that embarrassed a student for his disability.

psychopathetic 07-01-18 10:19 PM

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But I've also occasionally met some teachers who were mean and insensitive to students with disabilities or other issues -- who mocked students for being slow, who hassled students for having "magical backpacks" from which assignments mysteriously vanished, who gave students grief for having poor fine motor control.
You are right, and that makes me so sad :(.
I can honestly see my dad doing this. To me...but most especially to one of the amazing kids he worked with when he was a respite care provider.
He could be such an intensive jerk. And he'd do it just to be a jerk. Cause for some very sick reason...doing so made him somehow feel better. Like it was humorous to him.
Man I could strangle him sometimes. :*(

It's just...gross. People like this.

I sure hope the teacher wasn't like this. In my "lala perfect" land I live in (inside my comfy safety bubble lol) I like to think the teacher genuinely cared about this kid and was truly doing it in pure...clean...jest. With full confidence that doing such wouldn't hurt the kid in any way.

That's why I'm reacting so strongly here...cause I so strongly believe the teacher did what she did out of a positive space in her heart.

There's just no information I read that gives me any reason to think anything but. I don't like to think jerks like my dad exist unless I'm forced to lol xP. It's a lot happier to think everyone is nice and friendly and fluffy!! lol

(((((((Namsy-Nam-Nams)))))))

haha I'm glad I typed this out. I was pretty tense there, but now thinking things over and seeing where you're coming from and everything...I'm feeling a lot better.
Thank you Nams :)

sarahsweets 07-02-18 03:58 AM

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In think one of the issues here is that she did this in front of the class. Even if her intentions were intentionally benign she chose to make an example out of this kid...and most kind do not like that kind of attention even if its all in "good fun". I cant say that I wholly support a lawsuit over the whole thing but I definitely think the mother has a point in being upset for her son. I dont understand how this teacher could think anything good would have come of an award like this. If she had given the award out to any kid based on them being generally distracted, regardless of the adhd then maybe I would be more likely to see it as funny but the fact that this kid has adhd, has a 504 and has known issues shows that she either doesnt take his issues seriously, or doesnt think the class does, or doesnt think he would mind having the attention brought to him for such an award.

psychopathetic 07-02-18 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sarahsweets (Post 1999127)
In think one of the issues here is that she did this in front of the class.

Yeah, I can agree with this.

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I definitely think the mother has a point in being upset for her son.
This too.
I'd of had a REAL rough go of things in life if I hadn't had a mom to fight for me.
:( /sigh.

TygerSan 07-02-18 08:35 AM

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This may be pulling the thread a bit off topic. There seems to be a culture now where not only do folks want justice, they also want instant exposure. They want things to go viral. They want their outrage to spread as far and as fast as possible without considering the implications that may have on the people they’re dealing with.

It may be that this particular teacher and this particular school system have not been responsive to the student. It may be that this incident is the straw that broke the camels back. But it may also be a chance for the mother to get exposure.

I get being frustrated. I get being angry. A part of this feels like the reason I tend to sit on emails I write when angry before sending them. It’s easy to forget that the teacher is a (possibly very flawed) human being as well. Especially as keyboard warriors join in the outrage.

This is why I often step back and consider the story and the source when some perceived injustice goes viral. Was the horrible service limited to one person, or is it systemic to the institution? I hate when I see a brigade of one star reviews for a place that are from people who have never visited and reference the same story. I get the sentiment, but that’s not how things are supposed to work.

Lunacie 07-02-18 09:59 AM

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Last paragraph from the article Sarah posted ...

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The mother said she was frustrated by the school’s response, adding that neither she nor her son received an apology. She intends to speak to a lawyer to talk about potentially taking legal action in an effort to “hopefully make change — make the administration more involved in what teachers and students are doing and protect students from having to deal with something like this in the future.”

To me that sounds like the mother brought this issue up with the school and
was brushed off.

It doesn't sound like she immediately jumped on the media, or went straight to
the idea of calling a lawyer.

I don't think the award was funny or humerous in any way.
I think it was humiliating for the kids who got them ... apparently more than one.

Caco3girl 07-02-18 11:06 AM

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Had my 15 year old ADHD son received the awards mentioned he would have laughed and agreed, probably while the class cat called and whistled.

Another case of over sensitivity in our country. She didn't give him the dumb award, least likely to go to college award....come on people.

Fuzzy12 07-02-18 11:31 AM

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Whatever the teacher's intentions were it was a very, very bad idea and I expect professionals who are in a place of responsibility for very vulnerable and impressionable people (pupils in this case) to not have very bad ideas.

I honestly don't see how on earth the teacher thought this was acceptable. Some kids might be able to laugh it off but others won't but it won't add any real value or be beneficial in any way so why do it? I think a teacher's mantra just like a healthcare provider's should be "do not harm".

Lunacie 07-02-18 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Caco3girl (Post 1999157)
Had my 15 year old ADHD son received the awards mentioned he would have laughed and agreed, probably while the class cat called and whistled.

Another case of over sensitivity in our country. She didn't give him the dumb award, least likely to go to college award....come on people.

To me, that sounds like another case of making excuses for bully behavior.

My adhd granddaughter was bullied in school, and the bullying by teachers
bothered her much more than any student bullying.
It took a real toll on her self esteem.
She finally asked to move to online school.
Without that option, I have little doubt that she would have dropped out
instead of graduating.

psychopathetic 07-02-18 01:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Caco3girl (Post 1999157)
Another case of over sensitivity in our country. She didn't give him the dumb award, least likely to go to college award....come on people.

Oh thank goodness, someone else actually feels the same way I do and I'm not alone! lol

:grouphug:

psychopathetic 07-02-18 01:36 PM

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I still don't think the teacher was being a bully here.

And now I'm getting all uptight on this again this morning :lol:

It's like ya'll are stuck on the idea that the teacher was meaning to do this out of spite, or to be mean.

But holy heck it seems SO insanely clear to me that she was just being silly and playful.
She's got a tough job...but I bet she loves it. And I wouldn't be surprised if she's had it for a long time and has a long record of being thought of as an awesome teacher by a lot of students over the years.

This was likely just a thing she did with her students to try and have a bit of fun...like making fun of the yearly year books "most likely to succeed" awards. She probably gives out silly "most likely" awards to every single person in her class. And yeah...I guess if you want to look at the awards with zero humor, and zero open mindedness...sure they're going to look bad. But come on! :doh:

I don't get it.
/frustrated sigh...

Until I've been given some sort of reason to believe the teacher was intentionally trying to be mean in this situation...I side with the teacher on this and fully believe she did this as a warm hearted joke. An inside joke the mother didn't understand.
And until I have reasons to believe the mom isn't over reacting...I'm disgusted with her for blowing this so far out of proportion. There's something about this I don't trust or like about her. In my mind...her son wasn't even really bothered by this, but she's going around telling the media and everything that he was super upset over it because it will help her case in court. She'll be laughing her way to the bank when she sues the school.
I can't stand people like her.
Yuck.

namazu 07-02-18 05:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by psychopathetic (Post 1999178)
It's like ya'll are stuck on the idea that the teacher was meaning to do this out of spite, or to be mean.

But holy heck it seems SO insanely clear to me that she was just being silly and playful.

OK, so let's say she was just being silly and playful. That's totally possible, probably even likely. Maybe she rides unicorns who fart rainbows and is next in line for sainthood. ;)

But what she thought was super-duper-fun! -- publicly joking about a kid's ADHD in the context of end-of-year awards -- was evidently hurtful to that child.

It doesn't make the teacher an inherently horrible person, and maybe the kid actually loves this teacher despite it all (though we certainly don't know that). But it suggests that she midjudged what would be appropriate in this situation. That's all. It's possible to have good intentions and still screw something up.

The parent's (possible over-)reaction is a separate issue, and may also be a (small or large) misjudgment. Again, we don't have all of the back-story.

It would be interesting to hear everything from the child's perspective.

AdultADHD 07-02-18 06:40 PM

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All we have to go on is the written information provided.

In that description of the event, we learned:

1. The child had tears in his eyes because of it

and

2. This was presented to him in front of all his peers by an authority figure

The teacher being corrected or reprimanded for this is not an indictment on the teacher's character.

It's simply correcting an inappropriate behavior that is inappropriate regardless of who is doing it.

Brushing it under the rug allows the type of inappropriate behavior to continue.

If you are missing the point, it is not that the teacher was automatically judged to be mean-spirited.

It's all about how this could be humiliating for the child and why a publicly humiliating behavior in front of a child's peers like this perpetuated by an authority figure who is entrusted with being the schooltime caretaker of children under their watch, must be addressed and checked.

It simply cannot be allowed to continue.

It's not about the specific teacher being wrong personally. It's about the humiliating act being wrong professionally.

To most people, it should be obvious that the motivation for the act wasn't malicious or done with ill will toward the child. In fact, it could have come from a place that was pure and genuine.

That was never the argument.

It's all about how any teacher failing to consider the ramifications of calling attention to a child for their disorder/learning difference in front of peers is neglect.

My mother was an elementary school teacher for Metro Public Schools for over 40 years.

If there is one thing I know all teachers are expected to do before each activity in a classroom, it is to plan ahead for it.

These lesson plans are routine and done in advance.

Therefore, this was done with forethought which means the teacher had time to see this plan on paper.

The teacher knew exactly what specific kind of awards would be given.

Even if the specific child the award was given to was voted on by the class without input by the teacher, the teacher knew which kinds of awards would be possible for any child to get. The teacher knew this ahead of time or else the teacher neglected their professional responsibility of creating the lesson plans.

Here are the two areas where the teacher dropped the ball, in my opinion:

1. The teacher knew there was at least one child with ADHD in the class.
2. The teacher knew there was at least one award for ADHD for the class.

There is no way the teacher could plan to present this specific ADHD award to the specific student who has ADHD without even the smallest inkling that it could be inappropriate given the child's feelings, unless the teacher flat out neglected to consider how the child could be affected by the type of attention it could bring the child.

Even if there is only a slight chance that the child could feel humiliated, that is enough of a chance that the teacher who is charged with planning and carrying out these events should know to take that particular award off the table.

This is part of the teacher's duties.

Even if someone was to say the child was just being too sensitive in the way the child felt, that is up to the child.

It's not about protecting the teacher's feelings over the child in this case. It was the child who was brought the unwarranted attention in front of that child's peers.

When you're a kid in school, the way the other kids receive you means everything.

Even a kid with the thickest of skins and goofiest of personalities cares about how the other kids view him or her even if they would never admit it to their teachers or parents.

For all we know, the particular child was sitting there eagerly with a hopeful expectation of an award for something they could feel proud about in front of the other students and an award that would recognize something that would distinguish them positively for a behavior, attitude, or accomplishment.

Instead, their name was called and they were distinguished from the rest of their neurotypical peers in the classroom for something that was negative and carries a stigma with it, distraction.

Yes, the very challenge that has already brought enough difficulty for them in their learning life, was now allowed by the teacher to extend its damage to their social life too. :(

The teacher should have received training on how certain actions coming from an authority figure can adversely affect a child emotionally as well as socially.

This is a memory this child will carry with them for years to come if not the rest of their life.

If such damage happened, it is not the responsibility of the child to be forced to just grin and bear the social consequences of this type of attention when the child had no control of it happening in the first place.

It is the teacher who was responsible for the event and for making sure things like this do not happen under their watch.

This teacher was negligent in their professional duties to prevent even the potential of harm from this type of inappropriate behavior to have a place in their classroom.

If there was even one child with ADHD in the class, the ADHD "award" should not have even been an option to make it past the lesson planning stage for that day.

In my honest opinion, even if there wasn't a child with ADHD in the class, there is no justification for having an ADHD "award" in the first place.

Those who won the ADHD lottery and their parents aren't laughing to the bank.

As we've learned from what was written about the event, it's quite the opposite.

The child who "won" the "award" came home to their mother with tears in their eyes because of being humiliated by the very authority figure trusted to be responsible for their well being at school.

mildadhd 07-02-18 08:31 PM

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He was one of several student to receive the award, Derek told his mother after she stumbled across the certificate in his room. His teacher had also given him an award for being most improved in social studies and another called #BermudaTriangle, which reads “most likely to borrow stuff and it never coming back.”


I think the teacher(s) involved need to learn the difference between being sarcastic and being playful.

I have made the same mistake in being sarcastic, in an attempt to be funny with my own son, and I could tell by the look on his face that my attempt to be funny failed, and only confused things. (I then remembered reading in a book about childhood development, that there is no place for sarcasm in raising a child.) Which I could see by the confused look on my son's face, do to my sarcasm, to be true.

I then apologized to my son for being sarcastic and explained to him, it was totally wrong for me to sarcastic, and I will try never to be sarcastic again.

If the teacher had given the award for most improved in social studies without giving the other sarcastic awards, the teacher would have done the child a great service.

Instead the teachers' sarcasm has left the student confused instead.

I think the teacher could make this whole messy situation better, by addressing his/her mistake, tell the student that teachers make mistakes to, it was wrong for the teacher to be sarcastic, and tell the student again, great job improving his grades in social studies.



M

Lunacie 07-02-18 09:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mildadhd (Post 1999201)
I think the teacher(s) involved need to learn the difference between being sarcastic and being playful.

I have made the same mistake in being sarcastic, in an attempt to be funny with my own son, and I could tell by the look on his face that my attempt to be funny failed, and only confused things. (I then remembered reading in a book about childhood development, that there is no place for sarcasm in raising a child.) Which I could see by the confused look on my son's face, do to my sarcasm, to be true.

I then apologized to my son for being sarcastic and explained to him, it was totally wrong for me to sarcastic, and I will try never to be sarcastic again.

If the teacher had given the award for most improved in social studies without giving the other sarcastic awards, the teacher would have done the child a great service.

Instead the teachers' sarcasm has left the student confused instead.

I think the teacher could make this whole messy situation better, by addressing his/her mistake, tell the student that teachers make mistakes to, it was wrong for the teacher to be sarcastic, and tell the student again, great job improving his grades in social studies.



M


Yes, it must be very confusing when serious awards are mixed with possibly
playful or possibly sarcastic awards in the same awards ceremony.

mildadhd 07-02-18 09:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunacie (Post 1999202)
Yes, it must be very confusing when serious awards are mixed with possibly
playful or possibly sarcastic awards in the same awards ceremony.

Play promotes childhood development.

Sarcasm demotes childhood development.

All children are born with a biological instinct to play.

Children are not born with a biological instinct to be sarcastic.

In other words, we are born with an understanding of play. We are not born with an understanding of sarcasm.

The child would have understood the teacher, if the teacher was being playful.

The teacher was being sarcastic, and the student did not understand.



M

daveddd 07-02-18 09:49 PM

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What if it turns out the teacher had adhd as well

And this was her equivalent of blurting things out before thinking and poor social skills

That be crazy huh. How would we feel about it then

namazu 07-02-18 09:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daveddd (Post 1999204)
How would we feel about it then

About the same -- that it was a mistake.

Lunacie 07-02-18 09:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by daveddd (Post 1999204)
What if it turns out the teacher had adhd as well

And this was her equivalent of blurting things out before thinking and poor social skills

That be crazy huh. How would we feel about it then

The mom asked for a simple apology.

Doesn't matter why the teacher did this, or what disorder she may have.

She's the adult and should model good behavior by apologizing.

daveddd 07-02-18 09:57 PM

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What if the kid one of those with adhd who constantly joked about his adhd with a similar style of humor

daveddd 07-02-18 09:59 PM

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I guess I don’t have to much of a side her

The only thing this invokes in me when I read it was innocent until proven guilty

Maybe a lawsuit was mentioned early and the schools legal console advised her not to say anything

psychopathetic 07-03-18 01:48 AM

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Yeah, that's the conclusion I keep coming back pretty Much Daves. There's just too much unknown here to form a real solid opinion.
But I too feel the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing on this as well.

And I agree with everyone who feels it'd be great to know the kid's side of the story and how he really felt.

sarahsweets 07-03-18 05:02 AM

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I think we are getting caught up in what the teachers' intentions were and it doesnt really matter. The fact is that it was a bad judgement call. The boy was upset enough to talk to his mom about it. Now, I am not saying any lawsuit is necessary but it does show a lack of sensitivity on the teacher's part. It doesnt make sense. If she wanted to give funny awards she could have given out "most likely to be distracted" or "most likely to stare out the window" or even "day dreamer" aware. I am not saying any of these things would be better but it is a way for the teacher to be funny without highlighting someone's actual disability.

psychopathetic 07-03-18 05:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sarahsweets (Post 1999219)
The boy was upset enough to talk to his mom about it.

I don't think he did though. In the article it says the mom found the award in the boy's room...making me believe the boy didn't actually go and talk to his mom about it...which leads me to wonder how much of a drama queen the mother is being.
Did the boy really cry? Was it really even that big of a deal to him? Or is it the mom feeding the media with exaggerations?

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If she wanted to give funny awards she could have given out "most likely to be distracted" or "most likely to stare out the window" or even "day dreamer" aware. I am not saying any of these things would be better but it is a way for the teacher to be funny without highlighting someone's actual disability.
Wait...how is this any different than what she did? Her original award according to what you just typed...doesn't highlight his actual disability either then. No where does it explicitly state he has ADHD.

sarahsweets 07-03-18 06:44 AM

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Firstly I want you to know that I do not disagree with you entirely lest we have a clash that hurts each others' feelings..

Quote:

Originally Posted by psychopathetic (Post 1999225)
I don't think he did though. In the article it says the mom found the award in the boy's room...making me believe the boy didn't actually go and talk to his mom about it...which leads me to wonder how much of a drama queen the mother is being.
Did the boy really cry? Was it really even that big of a deal to him? Or is it the mom feeding the media with exaggerations?

I guess the part about tears in his eyes made me think he did cry. I do not agree with the lawsuit, people are way to litigious now-in-days. I do agree that the teacher should at the very least explain her intentions and apologize if for nothing else that it seems to have bothered the boy and his mom. Apologizing doesnt always mean an admission of guilt, it can just be plain old empathy because most people do not want to hurt someone's feelings-least of all a students'.




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Wait...how is this any different than what she did? Her original award according to what you just typed...doesn't highlight his actual disability either then. No where does it explicitly state he has ADHD.
I didnt do a very good job with my example. Maybe I am assuming the 504 accommodations are known to the other kids so that they are already aware of the adhd. Maybe not. But even if they do not know the boy does and I think and general "goofy" award is way better than being so specific to his disability.

psychopathetic 07-03-18 07:32 AM

Re: Child gets embarrassing add award.
 
(((((((Sweets)))))))

I'm not sure why I'm reacting so strongly to this story lol...just one of those things I suppose.
I'm also rather good at sticking my foot in my mouth at times as you know >.<'

And I sure hope I don't cause a clash that permanently effects any of my relationships with you guys outside of this thread...though I think I'm pretty close to it. I'm afraid i'm upsetting some here.

I loves you guys!

...now lets continue our <s>fight</s> <s>argument</s> debate shall we?

I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE ALL WRONG!

/end thread.


WAIT WAIT WAIT!
I was just kidding! Please don't beat me up!!!
It's my one and only weakness!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

CharlesH 07-03-18 08:51 AM

Re: Child gets embarrassing add award.
 
The vast majority of teachers are in it for good intentions, and so if the teacher went to the effort of creating an ADD award, she probably thought it was an endearing thing. I doubt she had the intent to bully. She probably didn't think it was revealing confidential health info because it was probably really obvious to everyone that he had ADHD.

I'm not saying that she did the right thing. What she did was idiotic, and she should apologize. I just wanted to push back against people who are jumping to label her a bully. And I just don't think this society needs another lawsuit. Schools already have enough to deal with.

Lunacie 07-03-18 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by psychopathetic (Post 1999225)
I don't think he did though. In the article it says the mom found the award in the boy's room...making me believe the boy didn't actually go and talk to his mom about it...which leads me to wonder how much of a drama queen the mother is being.
Did the boy really cry? Was it really even that big of a deal to him? Or is it the mom feeding the media with exaggerations?



Wait...how is this any different than what she did? Her original award according to what you just typed...doesn't highlight his actual disability either then. No where does it explicitly state he has ADHD.

From the article, here's what the award looks like ...

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The certificate boasts a zombie being lifted into the air by a balloon and a gold ribbon that reads “good work.”
The phrase “#ADDAward” appears in a banner above her her son Derek’s name

“Most likely to be distracted by ... look something shiny!” it reads.
What if she gave an award to a student with Tourette's for being most disruptive?

"Tourette's Award ... most likely to disrupt the ... shiit! urgh! fuuck!"

What about a bipolar award?

"Bipolar Award ... most likely to hug someone in the morning and hit them in the afternoon."




And no, I wouldn't go straight to a lawsuit either. But these awards
(there was also an award for forgetting to return borrowed items)
are not amusing. They can be very hurtful.

psychopathetic 07-03-18 12:40 PM

Re: Child gets embarrassing add award.
 
I hadn't even noticed that it said ADDaward on the certificate itself.

Even still..I can see that itself being meant in a positive way. But oh well haha.


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