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mildadhd 01-07-17 05:53 PM

If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
If i started a new member moderated forums similar ADDForums without the promotion of pharma as the dominant treatment approach, would I still be able to be a member of ADDForums?



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Fraser_0762 01-07-17 06:00 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
Well if you did, how would anybody even know that it was you who started it? The people who promote pharma as the dominant treatment approach are the members themselves. What would stop the same from occuring on your forum?

mildadhd 01-07-17 06:07 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fraser_0762 (Post 1862039)
Well if you did, how would anybody even know that it was you who started it? The people who promote pharma as the dominant treatment approach are the members themselves. What would stop the same from occuring on your forum?

I would tell people if I was allowed.

Because the forum topic would be on stages of development of self-regulation before pharma is even an treatment option.


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Greyhound1 01-07-17 06:13 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
I don't see any problem remaining a member here as long as you weren't discussing, promoting or marketing it here. I am not certain but I would definitely PM Andi or Andrew if you are serious about it first.

john2100 01-07-17 06:22 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
I think you could still be a member of this forum , but you would probably not be able to promote it here on anywhere in your profile.

But it is a great idea. I'm all for non-medicated treatment if it is effective.
I'd like to get deeper into the theory and practice without the meds discussion as well.

I think It would be a better idea to do it on this forum , as it already has many users.

If we could create a section on this forum that would not allow suggestion of medications.
You could probably work something out with the forum owners and maybe be a moderator.

I think I may be difficult to get enough activity on a new forum.

mildadhd 01-07-17 06:23 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greyhound1 (Post 1862051)
I don't see any problem remaining a member here as long as you weren't discussing, promoting or marketing it here. I am not certain but I would definitely PM Andi or Andrew if you are serious about it first.

Would I be able to introduce a link PM with friends if I started a new forums?




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namazu 01-07-17 06:29 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mildadhd (Post 1862057)
Would I be able to introduce a link PM with friends if I started a new forums?

Here's what our site guidelines say:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew
*No links to other groups, forums or communities in signatures or posts, without the explicit written permission of a Site Admin.

Promoting your own forum via PM may also be considered solicitation/spamming, which is prohibited.

As Greyhound suggested, please contact our site administrators, Andi and Andrew, for clarification/permission.

And remember, we have long had not just one, but multiple sections here devoted to non-pharmaceutical approaches to managing ADHD, which you are welcome to continue to use.

mildadhd 01-07-17 06:33 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by john2100 (Post 1862056)
I think you could still be a member of this forum , but you would probably not be able to promote it here on anywhere in your profile.

But it is a great idea. I'm all for non-medicated treatment if it is effective.
I'd like to get deeper into the theory and practice without the meds discussion as well.

I think It would be a better idea to do it on this forum , as it already has many users.

If we could create a section on this forum that would not allow suggestion of medications.
You could probably work something out with the forum owners and maybe be a moderator.

I think I may be difficult to get enough activity on a new forum.

I have tried here for years and not many people are interested, although some disagree, the proof is in the pudding, the thread gets moved to alternative treatment section below the pharma treatment section , as if pharma takes precedent over the most environmentally influential stages of implicit self-regulation development before birth and the age of 4, when everyone actually acquires ADHD.

What is really frustrating is pharma treatment approach not even an option, during the early stages of implicit self regulation development before the age of 4, that we should be focused on..



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john2100 01-07-17 06:43 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mildadhd (Post 1862063)
I have tried here for years and not many people are interested, although some disagree, the proof is in the pudding, the thread gets moved to alternative treatment section below the pharma treatment section , as if pharma takes precedent over the most environmentally influential stages of implicit self-regulation development before birth and the age of 4, when everyone acquires ADHD.

What is really frustrating is pharma treatment approach not even an option, during the early stages of implicit self regulation development before the age of 4, that should be focused on.



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Ok , I see your point,

I'm not sure if this forum is for profit or non-profit.
If it generated any income from any activity.

If it is for profit, then you have to understand the reasons why it is the way it is.

If it is not for profit, then we could possible achieve a better location of the section on this forum.

john2100 01-07-17 06:46 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
I really dont see any negative of adding therapy like approach .
Even for people with meds.

If you are effective with meds, then with other non-meds approach you could be even more effective and productive.

namazu 01-07-17 06:50 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mildadhd (Post 1862063)
I have tried here for years and not many people are interested, the thread gets moved to alternative treatment section below the pharma treatment section , as if pharma takes precedent over the most environmentally influential stages of self-regulation development before birth and the age of 4.

Your thread was moved to Miscellaneous Treatments and Approaches because you asked a question about general non-pharmaceutical treatments and approaches, and that was the most appropriate subforum.

There are 6 [!] sections devoted to different types of treatments, 5 [!] of which are devoted to non-pharmaceutical treatments.

The fact that the medication section is at the top simply reflects the fact that many members come to ADDF seeking information about medications. It does not mean that the forum has any official policy of promoting pharmaceutical treatment over other types of treatment (we don't). (If we moved other treatment sections to the top, people would complain that we are pushing other treatments over medications. Until we can stack the sections sideways or in random order, we can't win!)

I believe that there are many forum members who are interested in learning about and trying non-medication treatment approaches. (I am one of them.) That members participate in your threads in ways other than the way you want them to is not inherently a sign of disinterest or opposition to non-medical approaches to ADHD treatment.

That many members are adults with ADHD (well above the age of 4) seeking help with the problems they currently face may also have something to do with members' limited interest in discussing the finer points of early childhood development, even if it is an important topic in understanding what happens in ADHD. You are free to explain (in one of the numerous threads you've started on the topic -- not here) why adults with ADHD should be interested in development from ages 0-4, and they are free to decide whether or not you've made the case in a way they find compelling. If you were to start another forum to discuss only early childhood development and non-medical approaches to ADHD, you'd have to do the same thing.

namazu 01-07-17 06:54 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by john2100 (Post 1862065)
I'm not sure if this forum is for profit or non-profit.
If it generated any income from any activity.

If it is for profit, then you have to understand the reasons why it is the way it is.

If it is not for profit, then we could possible achieve a better location of the section on this forum.

The forum is owned by David. He has ADHD himself. He also earns money from the advertising served to non-members and people who are not logged in. Ultimately, decisions about the nature of the forum are his call.

We strictly prohibit advertising on the forum itself, including links to commercial websites. No money is being made off the placement of the treatment sections, nor in promoting any kind of treatment (pharmaceutical or otherwise) to logged-in members.

The site administrators, as well as the moderators, are all unpaid volunteers. We do what we do in the hopes of providing a place where people affected by ADHD and related conditions can find support and information. Effectively, we (the admins and moderators) operate like a non-profit with zero budget.

There is some room for changes to forum sections and structure, at the Admins' discrection, which is part of the reason this Suggestions & Feedback section exists.

mildadhd 01-07-17 07:05 PM

Re: If i started a new forums similar ADDForums,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by namazu (Post 1862067)
... If you were to start another forum to discuss only early childhood development and non-medical approaches to ADHD, you'd have to do the same thing.

That would be great to discuss development in the order development occurs.

Order of early development is extremely important to understanding treatment.

Thanks for everyone's honesty, I will keep to these guidelines mentioned in this thread.



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mildadhd 01-07-17 07:30 PM

Re: Riding a bike with no hands: Non-pharmaceutical treatment approaches.
 
[moderator note: this post and several posts that follow were moved here from another thread so as not to derail that other thread]

I am not sure why " Non-pharmaceutical treatment" was added to the title of this thread?

I titled this thread "Riding a bike with no hands".

I do not want this thread to be titled " :non-pharmaceutical treatment approaches".


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john2100 01-07-17 07:36 PM

Re: Riding a bike with no hands: Non-pharmaceutical treatment approaches.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mildadhd (Post 1862082)
I am not sure why " Non-pharmaceutical treatment" was added to the title of this thread?

I titled this thread "Riding a bike with no hands".

I do not want this thread to be titled " :non-pharmaceutical treatment approaches", as if pharmaceutical are an option.


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That is interesting,I'm sure it must be automatically done by software


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