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livinginchaos 05-19-06 08:51 PM

12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
12 Things High School Students w/ ADHD Would Like Their Teachers to Know

taken from:
http://add.about.com/cs/forteachers/a/12things.htm

**the list was complied from Teens w/ ADHD

1) I really do forget things, I am not trying to be smart, sassy or arrogant, I simply do not always remember. The myth that if it is important enough I will remember it is just that, a myth.

2) I am not stupid.,

3) I really do complete my homework. It is easy for me to lose papers, leave them at home and otherwise not be able to find my homework at the proper time. Completing homework in a notebook is much easier for me as it will not get lost as easily. Loose papers are difficult for me to keep track of. (Once my mother found my homework in the bread drawer after I had left for school!)

4) If I ask the same question over or ask many questions, it is not out of arrogance. I am trying hard to understand, comprehend and remember what you have said. Please be patient and help me.5) I want to do good. I have struggled with schoolwork for many years and it is frustrating to me. My goal is to do my best and pass this class with flying colors.

6) ADD is not an excuse. ADD really does exist and it does affect my thinking process. I would like to be "normal" and be able to remember and process information quickly, I do not enjoy being "different" and made fun of for my differences.

7) I need your help to succeed. It isn't always easy for me to ask for help and sometimes asking makes me feel stupid. Please be patient with my attempts and offer your help.

8) Please be sure to talk with me in private about behaviors or actions that may not be appropriate. Please do not humiliate me, insult me, or call attention to my weaknesses in front of the class.

9) I do better with a detailed plan and knowing what you expect. If you should change plans in the middle to adapt to some outside influence, please help me to adapt. It may take me longer to adjust to the changes. Structure and guidance are my best allies.

10) I don't like having "special accomodations." Please do not draw attention to them and help me to succeed with the least amount of attention drawn to my ADD.

11) Learn about ADD/ADHD. Read information and find out all you can on how kids with ADD learn and what can make it easier for them.

12) Always remember that I am a person with feelings, needs and goals. These are as important to me as yours are to you.

dexter05 05-20-06 03:03 PM

Yeah I agree with number 8. I had a teacher who made an comment to about how I thought it would be a better use of class time to teach Spainish instead of lecturing the whole class for 20 minutes about how sleep is important. Granted I wasn't doing to well in that class at the time but I wanted to start doing better, and I wanted to learn at that point. Then she basically called me out in front of the class, basically saying I was an arrogent disrepectful ***** and that I was rude. Like my comment was not something I should of said, but she was the adult in the situation, and should asked me to talk to her after school or class. Something that I would of been completly willing to do. But she didn't and I lost all respect for her and her class at that moment. It happened three years ago and it still bugs me.

That was sorta just a rant.

JimiS 05-22-06 09:02 PM

Every teacher should have this in their wallet.. When I was young, I was pegged as a retard cause I am ADD.. I wish they knew then what they know now.. I could have went to a Ivy League college.. Ironic that I found out years later that I actually have a very very high IQ..

Oh well..

At least my son (who also has ADD as well as Aspergers) will have a fighting chance at a good life of whatever he chooses..
Like I tell him.. We are the next step in the evolution process.. Be proud of who you are and make this gift work for you and not against you.. He is going to be way smarter than me and is a wonderful boy..

I can't wait to pass the torch to him..

Adamant1988 06-03-06 10:46 AM

I don't like having special accomodations for myself either but I will deal with it if it gets me to where I need to be. I use them sometimes out of courtesy of other students, if I'm being brash and impulsive it's in my best interest to let them get their work done, at least. No one else should have to fail school because I have ADD.

Paws13 06-03-06 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimiS
Every teacher should have this in their wallet..

Jimi, you are a true genious; not only should every teacher have this, but every boss, parent, and authority figure. What would also help is if everyone was inquired about these kinds of things like ADD, even if you don't have it or know anyone with it. It'd probably make the world a little nicer since it's one of the most commonly diagnosed problems in the world.

By the way, I can relate to #3; except I left it in the fridge once :eek:

Foot-in-mouth 06-03-06 12:12 PM

How about "YES I really do study and do homework after school!"

I remember my Mom being told at parent teachers conference night that "Ian obviously does not study at home". Well my mother went off on that teacher because she helped me drill and practically home schooled me for 3-4 hrs a night EVERY night! I was a straight D student :(

ADDitives 06-08-06 06:36 AM

even though i know those things, it's easy to forget and i've copied the list into a word document, made it look presentable and i'm putting it in my "SAER" resource file. maybe other teachers and student teachers looking through my folder will see it and take note of it! people have a lot to learn, and people have a lot of preconceptions of adhd.

one fellow student teacher said to me 2 years ago "yeah add kids are so annoying, they just do it on purpose to annoy the teacher". you can imagine my possible reactions to that statement....

kvrrd 06-08-06 06:49 PM

I graduated from the University of Illinois in Engineering in the mid 1970's. I'm in California now. The Director of Development from UofI called me a few weeks ago to see if I would meet with him, when he came out here, to discuss how my life at school and afterwards faired, how I felt about the school, etc.
So I met him yesterday for lunch. No, I can' t donate right now....but it was more than that.
He's a baby - 27. I was so impressed with him.
His job is to get the alumni to give back to the students. WISE (women in something? engineering) is a program that allows alumni to mentor students. What a great idea.
But besides all that, I told him about this forum. About all the college students here that are brilliant and really struggling because they have no resources or help with basic organizational skills. This really caught his interest. I gave him the whole speal - inattentive ADDers are lost in the mix because they're not hyperactive. Adults whose potential is sitting untapped and underutilized.

Educators and administrators really need to know who their audiences are and how to satisfy their basic requirements. It's really up to us to be more proactive.

~boots~ 06-27-06 10:56 AM

Gee I wish I had that knowledge when I was at school...one look at my report cards should have set off alarm bells for everyone!!!

VisualImagery 07-18-06 01:27 AM

I gave a copy of this list to the principal's secretary to get it OK'd to put in mail boxes. It never showed up.

I also gave each student with ADD a copy of the Top 10 Benefits of having ADD. They loved it. I will now give a copy of the 12 Things along with the 10 Benefits to each kid. I also post copies in my room. My goal is to show all students that ADD is a difference, not a label.

Having ADD has allowed me to really build relationships with all my students. They know I care. Besides, they know when teachers have ADD. I miss the interaction with my students this summer, but really needed the sanity break.

livinginchaos 07-27-06 11:49 AM

at least you tried, RADDmom. It sounds like you're an excellent teacher :)

VisualImagery 07-27-06 11:55 AM

Thanks Chaos, I think I was. I am looking for another job, this will keep me confident. I appreciate the time you took to encourage me.

RADD

JustNeedHelp 09-14-06 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RADDmom
I gave a copy of this list to the principal's secretary to get it OK'd to put in mail boxes. It never showed up.

I also gave each student with ADD a copy of the Top 10 Benefits of having ADD. They loved it. I will now give a copy of the 12 Things along with the 10 Benefits to each kid. I also post copies in my room. My goal is to show all students that ADD is a difference, not a label.

Having ADD has allowed me to really build relationships with all my students. They know I care. Besides, they know when teachers have ADD. I miss the interaction with my students this summer, but really needed the sanity break.

RADDmom i would love to know where you got the list of 10 thing...? send me the link or .pdf, .do, .txt what ever works for you!

EDIt

and also thanks to original poster that mad me feel so... good reading that, you (or who ever wrote that) really did a good job! and also is the 10 things the same as the homework tips topic?

VisualImagery 09-14-06 08:01 PM

It is at the beginning of this thread-just go back to post #1!

Paws13 09-19-06 09:09 PM

I think JustNeedHelp was reffering to the 10 positives of ADD thing.

Can you tell me where it is too :D

Claudia_0102 11-16-06 02:40 PM

Wow,i love that list. I agree with all of it.

jittery guy 04-09-07 01:47 PM

i am currently doing a paper on add/adhd and found the twelve tips. i showed them to my teacher and now she is going to copy it and make sure that all of the teachers get it. thank you for helping to bring understanding to my school even if only a few teachers pay attention.

Didi 04-17-07 01:11 AM

They should make all teachers carry this with them at all times, you are a genious! Now, how do I get you to explain this to my chemistry teacher. (He's still getting his head around how I can forget my periodic table 22 times in a row, but always remember where I put it after I get to school)

livinginchaos 04-17-07 09:14 PM

It's so great to hear that it's being passed around! I hope it helps the teachers work better with ADHD students :D

Didi,
I suggest you put this list on the teacher's desk anonymously!!

Paige1989 08-13-07 07:16 AM

I remember seeing that on About.com a while ago...I was on the verge of printing it for my teachers, but I decided to write my own paper on it instead that included my needs, not just a general list of all needs. Being bipolar as well, my list differed a bit from the ADD list so it fits better for me and my teachers took well to it...

Marty 08-23-07 01:55 PM

nice list

I should remember to get something like that to my teachers. since I get all new ones this year

thanks

supersomeone 09-08-07 06:40 PM

i can really see # 2 , four i am a b,c+ student w/ a ld so when new teachers especialy ones with the special ed dept. they some times talk to me like i am a idot or they lecture me 20 mins about somethign that i really do not care about . I never ask a ??? twice i would rather not understand than get the look from my peers lol which is kinda sad if you think about it . oh no wait it love this one i perfer sitting in the class room on the sides near the back so that if i need help then i can get help with out being noticed any way the teacher moved me to the front so that i will have less distractions well my teacher is not all that smart she put me near a window where kids eat lunch outside haha

loopy73 09-26-07 05:41 PM

hiya, reading this really has opened my eyes to how my son may be feeling, and im not going to lie it had me in tears...my son who is only 8 has ADHD and as a mum i try to imagine and sympathize with him all the time and stand his ground for him as him being so young cannot express himself..my question is do any of you children on here know of a good website that he can go on like this one?, this site is amazing but its for teens , id love a forum for someone like my son whos only 8 to go on to talk(with me watching!!,as he is only 8!), i think it would do him good to chat with others going thru the same as him, and he is very computer wizard so he knows how to use it sensibly..any ideas would be very gratefully received guys!!! thankyou so much in advance.
Quote:

Originally Posted by livinginchaos
12 Things High School Students w/ ADHD Would Like Their Teachers to Know

taken from:
http://add.about.com/cs/forteachers/a/12things.htm

**the list was complied from Teens w/ ADHD

1) I really do forget things, I am not trying to be smart, sassy or arrogant, I simply do not always remember. The myth that if it is important enough I will remember it is just that, a myth.

2) I am not stupid.,

3) I really do complete my homework. It is easy for me to lose papers, leave them at home and otherwise not be able to find my homework at the proper time. Completing homework in a notebook is much easier for me as it will not get lost as easily. Loose papers are difficult for me to keep track of. (Once my mother found my homework in the bread drawer after I had left for school!)

4) If I ask the same question over or ask many questions, it is not out of arrogance. I am trying hard to understand, comprehend and remember what you have said. Please be patient and help me.5) I want to do good. I have struggled with schoolwork for many years and it is frustrating to me. My goal is to do my best and pass this class with flying colors.

6) ADD is not an excuse. ADD really does exist and it does affect my thinking process. I would like to be "normal" and be able to remember and process information quickly, I do not enjoy being "different" and made fun of for my differences.

7) I need your help to succeed. It isn't always easy for me to ask for help and sometimes asking makes me feel stupid. Please be patient with my attempts and offer your help.

8) Please be sure to talk with me in private about behaviors or actions that may not be appropriate. Please do not humiliate me, insult me, or call attention to my weaknesses in front of the class.

9) I do better with a detailed plan and knowing what you expect. If you should change plans in the middle to adapt to some outside influence, please help me to adapt. It may take me longer to adjust to the changes. Structure and guidance are my best allies.

10) I don't like having "special accomodations." Please do not draw attention to them and help me to succeed with the least amount of attention drawn to my ADD.

11) Learn about ADD/ADHD. Read information and find out all you can on how kids with ADD learn and what can make it easier for them.

12) Always remember that I am a person with feelings, needs and goals. These are as important to me as yours are to you.


Paws13 09-26-07 08:51 PM

I'm not sure if there's a forum for people as young as your son. Could I suggest writing things for him in the parents section? He can tell you about what bothers him and you can post it there for him. Other parents can give insite. Because I do agree, the teen section may be a bit old for him.

It is too bad that he can't post on here, but the forum is mostly adults and young adults. Maybe you could try a school counslor, or someone to talk to?

livinginchaos 09-26-07 09:05 PM

If you are comfortable with him being around teens, loopy, i think posting here would be ok. As his parent, it's up to you :)

otherwise, try google.

loopy73 09-27-07 04:45 PM

ok.. thankyou for all your thoughts on it! hugs to all.x

Arei 11-08-07 11:10 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
I'm so printing this out and giving it to my Algebra teacher XD And my grandma o.o This makes me feeling like crying..

I can totally relate with the forgetting/losing homework. I have 4 other classes that I have a boatload of papers and notes and notebooks for. I've got 4 other giant books to keep up with and I truly do loose my homework or misplace it, or simply forget it when I walk out the door.

All I really want is some help, understanding, and someone to support me and tell me its gonna be ok (omfg, now im thinking about that scary therapy buddy!!!). I'm strong, but I can't hold out forever, I'm basically holding up my own here.

Chelsea17 03-11-08 07:08 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
Ditto, I plan to print this out and give it to my English teacher, she just doesn't understand me! Thanks for posting this!

Booo 07-31-08 05:30 AM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
Great list!
It should be passed out on every school!
ill be translating it now:P

Marty 08-08-08 05:49 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
Booo, if you haven't done it already I think I should have it translated around here somewhere.

mctavish23 08-08-08 08:14 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
Not being able to complete daily classwork in a timely manner is a legitimate, brain based,neurobiological executive function

impairment (executive dysfunction); caused by ADHD.

IT'S NOT A "CHOICE."

The Reason: of the 6 types of Attention defined by neuropsychology, 5 are considered to represent "input" functions of the brain

While the one and only "output" function of the brain (sustained or persistent) attention, is the one disrupted by ADHD.


The other points to consider would be:

1) ADHD disrupts goal directed planning & task completion ( i.e., the ability to track time;also known as "Time Blindness);"

2) Doing your work and either losing it or forgetting to turn it in, is another Executive Dysfunction caused by ADHD;

3) research does NOT support extra time on a test as working

There's more but for now, this 'll do.


hope that helps

tc

mctavish23

(Robert)

Juliak 08-20-08 03:03 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
i think these are some of the reasons everyone i know thinks i strange :(

Kcasey11 10-28-08 09:55 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
I have struggled through high school as a student who didn't qualify for aid , because i got pretty good grades and took honors classes . Despite the multiple reports and testings that say I have severe Dyslexia and ADHD . It is so annoying for me , because i can't get any help or pity at all just because i work my butt off to get the grades that i get , they were not the best . Sometimes i wish i didnt try or dropped the 4 AP's i am taking this year , just s i could qualify for aid . Because all of those 12 things have happened to em , especially the forgetting homework part . I wish people didnt think of ADHD as a excuse but rather as a medical condition.

QueensU_girl 10-29-08 04:20 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Didi (Post 406078)
They should make all teachers carry this with them at all times, you are a genious! Now, how do I get you to explain this to my chemistry teacher. (He's still getting his head around how I can forget my periodic table 22 times in a row, but always remember where I put it after I get to school)

ADD is a working memory problem. Read up on Executive Function and then you will understand how ADD can hinder our ability to learn things like CHEM and Math and Accounting, etc.


http://www.chrisdendy.com/executive.htm

Johnny123 11-29-08 06:02 AM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
Oh i've got a 13,

13. Please don't hate me if i let the wrong words slip out.

(yeah i think my teachers hate me).

HyperChick17 12-08-08 02:38 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
Alot of my friends and teachers think that "ADHD doesn't effect school / homework" and "ADHD is only an excuse so you don't have to do something"
How can I get them to understand?

Baird 01-23-09 07:34 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperChick17 (Post 672054)
Alot of my friends and teachers think that "ADHD doesn't effect school / homework" and "ADHD is only an excuse so you don't have to do something"
How can I get them to understand?

Slap upside the head.

No, all jokes aside you should just show them this topic to show that you are not alone.

I completely agree with 8, if you drift off teachers can ridicule you by making jokes but I don't have the guts to tell anyone because of my rock bottom self esteem.

RedSkittles 02-21-09 06:43 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
omgoodness. This is a wonderfull list and i agree with you 110%!!

bosst 03-11-09 08:33 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
haha thats so great.

Grithor 04-18-09 04:53 PM

Re: 12 Things ADHD High Schoolers want their Teachers to Know
 
That's a great list :)


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