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Nova 10-06-05 05:16 PM

Coincidence of ADHD and Creativity
And since I don't believe in 'koinkydinks'

The Coincidence of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity

Disorder and Creativity
  • Bonnie Cramond, Ph.D., The University of Georgia, March 1995

Robert daydreamed so much that he was put out of school. Frank went into such trancelike dreams that one had to shout at him to bring him back. Equally problematic were Sam's restlessness and verbal diatribes. Virginia, too, demonstrated a tendency to talk on and on. Thomas experienced school problems, in part because of his high energy. Nick's tendency to act without thinking caused him to have several scrapes with death and near-tragedies, such as plunging to the earth from the roof of a barn, clutching an umbrella. In these examples we can see how the concentration, high energy, and unique ways of thinking and behaving that were exemplified by Robert Frost, Frank Lloyd Wright, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Virginia Woolf, Thomas Edison, and Nikola Tesla resulted in school problems, dark diagnoses, or worse. These are examples of creative individuals whose behavior could also be interpreted as the inattention, impulsivity, and hyperactivity of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.

The stories of creative individuals are replete with instances of childhood problems in school. Although it has been argued that many creative individuals have suffered from mood disorders and other clinically significant psychological problems , there are others whose behavior, although irregular, may be more indicative of their creativity than of any disorders. In the case of Janet Frame, New Zealand's poet and novelist, her "difference" resulted in a diagnosis of schizophrenia, confinement to a mental institution, and the scheduling of a lobotomy that was only canceled when her first novel gained widespread distinction. In some cases the very qualities that cause creative individuals to have problems are the same ones that may facilitate in their creative accomplishments. Edison's energy, the vivid imagery in the daydreams of Frost and Wright, and Einstein's alternative mode of thinking created problems for them in school, but were undoubtedly invaluable in their creative endeavors.

Schools and families can best prevent misinterpretation of a child's behaviors by becoming aware of those indicative of high creativity and attempting to sort out the disabling from enabling ones. This is no small task because many creative behaviors look like those that can result in a negative diagnosis. This is particularly problematic for children because the creative potential may not yet be manifest and only the aberrant behaviors are apparent. As in the case of Janet Frame, only after one has been recognized as creative will some of the characteristics be viewed as eccentric rather than problematic.

The issue of the relationship of creativity to psychopathology is a mare's-nest of cases and attributions. It is not the purpose of this work to attempt to resolve these issues. Rather, it is to look at the particular problems that can beset creative children in today's schools when their behaviors are mistaken for one of the most frequently diagnosed psychoeducational conditions, Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD).

This is not only possible, but likely, because ADHD has been listed as the most common reason for referral and diagnosis in children seen in psychological clinics. Yet, few schools, psychologists, or pediatricians test or diagnose creativity in children who are having problems in school, in spite of the fact that Wallach and Kogan found that highly creative children engage in "disruptive, attention-seeking behavior" in the classroom. Similarly, Getzels and Jackson found that they are not valued by their teachers as much as more conforming, less creative students.

Of course, not all creative individuals exhibit impulsivity, motor hyperactivity, and inattention. By the same token, not all children who manifest ADHD behaviors will be highly creative. The specific concern here is for creative children whose behaviors may be seen as maladaptive in school and who are incorrectly diagnosed as suffering from ADHD, the reverse situation could also occur, i.e., children with ADHD incorrectly labeled as creative, it is unlikely because creativity is infrequently identified. On the other hand, ADHD has been listed as the most common reason for referral and diagnosis in children seen in psychological clinics. Furthermore, the consequences of incorrectly labeling a child as creative are not as severe as those for incorrectly labeling someone as ADHD.

Possible Common Etiologies

Brain Structure

There is a possibility that structural differences in the brain are related to the differences in cognitive functioning that appear as ADHD or creativity. Neurobiological anomalies are reported in both the literature on ADHD. Geschwind, though emphasizing that creativity could not be attributed solely to the right hemisphere, expounded upon the remarkable talents associated with individuals who exhibit anomalous or mixed brain dominance. Geschwind and Galaburda also noted the predominance of the right hemisphere in spatial orientation, emotional expression, and attention. The importance of effective communication between the hemispheres for creative productivity was noted by Restak who also described instances of brain damage that enhance creativity.

The possibility of structural differences in the brain being a link between ADHD and creativity was strengthened by some empirical evidence provided by Shaw.
She found that a group of bright, ADHD children exhibited greater crossed eye-hand dominance and left laterality than a group of normal children matched by age, sex, and IQ. The ADHD group also had higher figural creativity and more use of imagery in problem solving.
Bachtold suggested that observed brain differences cause diverse ideation. She has claimed that intelligent individuals who are bombarded by ideas seek to make sense of them by organizing them into new perceptual relationships. Thus the creative, original idea is born.

Cognitive Processing

The cognitive processing that results in ideation and demands on attention was noted in studies with ADHD students. In two studies, Shaw found that ADHD students reported a greater abundance of spontaneous thoughts during a problem-solving exercise. In one experiment the peripheral information was used to solve the problems, and in the other it was seen as unrelated to the vigilance task. Shaw and Giambra interpreted this as an indication that ADHD students have more internal distractions from fleeting sensory input and less command over their thought processes than do others, especially during boring tasks. On the other hand, Shaw speculated that such spontaneous and diverse ideation may be part of the process that fosters more creative responses on a test of divergent thinking.

Temperament and Mood

Sensation Seeking: Another possibility is that there are certain temperament traits that predispose individuals to exhibit behaviors that are characteristic of both ADHD and creativity. For example, the in-born temperament trait of sensation seeking has been linked to both ADHD and creativity. Shaw and Giambra also noted the link provided by the trait of sensation seeking in both creative and ADHD populations.

Zuckerman reported that sensation seeking is greater in ADHD children than in normal children. This may be understood in light of the hypothesis that ADHD children seek stimulation as a result of underarousal in the reticular activating system and cortex. According to Zentall and Zentall, there is an optimal level of stimulation necessary to maintain the engagement of attention disordered children. This may explain the situational variability that has been observed in the manifestation of ADHD characteristics. Douglas proposed that ADHD children are usually either underaroused by dull, repetitive tasks or hyperaroused by interesting ones.

Farley has proposed that the same is true of creative individuals. In fact, Farley has proposed a biologically based model of creativity that explains stimulation seeking as related to low innate arousability. From his body of research examining the relatedness of creativity to arousability, Farley has concluded that:

The search for variety and intensity of stimulation of the low arousal individual will lead to the openness to experience, the flexibility, risk taking, high energy level, preference for complexity, playfulness, receptivity to new and novel ideas and experiences, and so on that are held to be characteristic of the creative person, as well as the flexibility of performance, generation of performance variety, novelty, complexity, and so on that are often held to be important attributes of creative performance. Thus, the personality attributes of the creative individual, as well as the characteristics of creative performance, are seen as in part deriving from or serving the sensation-seeking motive.

Most pertinent, Farley concluded that the implications of stimulation seeking are of great importance for the childhood disorder of hyperactivity, which he described as a disorder characterized by stimulation seeking. Therefore, he advised that children so diagnosed should be treated with adaptive education rather than adaptive medication. Specifically, he proposed that such children " exposed to arousing education, perhaps open-space classrooms, more unstructured conditions, discussion and discovery instructional modes, divergent creativity experiences, arousing, extroverted teachers, and so on". In short, nurture their creativity.
Sensitivity to Stimulation: Another temperament connection may be provided by Dabrowski's Theory of Positive Disintegration. According to Dabrowski, individuals may manifest extreme sensitivity to stimulation, or psychic overexcitabilities, in any of five areas: intellectual, psychomotor, imaginational, emotional, or sensual. Individuals who have an innate tendency to experience and express themselves in certain combinations of these areas have the potential for a higher level of development. Of the five, emotional, intellectual, and imaginational overexcitabilities have been theorized to be most indicative of developmental potential. Viewed as promising by Dabrowski, emotional overexcitability in childhood may be viewed as the emotional liability of ADHD; psychomotor overexcitability may be viewed as hyperactivity. The overexcitabilities in combination may produce an intensity that has often been used to describe creative individuals. Using similar language, Bachtold (1980) described the creative individual as a person with a low sensory threshold and strong reactions to sensory stimuli.

Depression: Finally, there is the observation that ADHD-like behavior can result from depression. Weinberg and Emslie noted that many children who are diagnosed with ADHD also suffer from depression or bipolar disorder (depression alternating with manic states). They also observed that both depression and mania appear to have biological bases in brain anomalies. In the case of depression, the right cerebral hemisphere is implicated as malfunctioning. Likewise, depression and bipolar disorder have been noted in the lives of creative people, especially among writers. The mechanism for the relationship between creativity and depression is unclear. Because depression and bipolar disorder run in families, there is an indication of a heritable factor, either in some structural or biochemical differences in the brain. On the other hand, the sensitivity and intensity that facilitates creative expression may also make highly creative people more susceptible to depression. The belief in the latter is what causes many creative people to refuse drug treatments to lessen the ravages of mood disorders; they believe that the drugs lessen their creativity. The consensus among researchers working on the relationship between creativity and mood disorders seems to be that some depression and mania may enable creative production, but if the disorder becomes too severe it is disabling.

Characteristics of Creativity and ADHD Compared

Although the primary symptoms of ADHD are inattention, hyperactivity, and impulsivity. A review of the literature on ADHD and creativity, respectively, revealed several identical or similar characteristics. The characteristics were grouped for the following discussion according to conceptual similarity, although in some cases the working indicates a more positive or negative connotation of a behavior.


As is apparent in the changed conceptualization, inattention is one of the areas that has received the most interest in recent years and is considered a defining characteristic of ADHD. Lahey and colleagues described the ADHD child as one who is easily distracted, often fails to finish things, and frequently shifts activities. Yet, creative people are described as having a broad range of interests and showing a tendency to play with ideas, sometimes losing interest in one to take up another. A famous example of this is Leonardo da Vinci. Although known for his painting, there are only 17 paintings that can be attributed to his 67 years as an artist, and some of these are incomplete. His tendency to leave projects unfinished reportedly resulted in Pope Leo X/s exasperated exclamation, "This man will never accomplish anything! He thinks of the end before the beginning". Even Freud was fascinated with Leonardo's tendency to abandon projects claiming it was because the artist had been abandoned by his father. However, most pertinent for this discussion may be Leonardo's explanation for his failure to finish his projects: his interests were so many and so diverse.

According to Cheney, Tesla also pursued so many ideas that he "...often did not follow-up on his intuitions, theories, and preliminary experiments to the point of verification". This became a problem because others were then free to complete the invention and get credit for it as Tesla claimed Marconi did with the telegraph. Tesla was driven to action at one point when his bookkeeper reminded him that money was running out and his inventions were not being completed.

According to Werry, Reeves, and Elkind, the lack of attention or concentration indicative of ADHD is also exemplified by daydreaming and not seeming to listen. However, this observation could also be made of a person who is paying very close attention to internal thoughts and visualizations. It is possible that the creative person is preoccupied, as such individuals are wont to be according to Barron. Nikola Tesla has such strong visualization abilities that he would imagine the workings of his inventions to great details without putting anything on paper or conducting any experiments until all of the problems were worked out. Frank Lloyd Wright reported that his reveries were so intense that his uncle would have to shout at him to get him back. Torrance noted that, "Robert Frost was dropped from school for what we call daydreaming; during some of his lapses from attention he was probably revolving a poem in his mind. Other eminent creative writers, scientists, and inventors have had similar experiences".


A key question here is how to differentiate hyperactivity from a high level of normal activity, or to discriminate between restlessness that prevents one from completing tasks and restlessness that drives one to be productive. According to the DSM-IV, hyperactivity is observed as excessive fidgeting, difficulty staying seated, excessive running and climbing, and difficulty playing quietly, although in adolescents and adults it may be manifested as internal feelings of restlessness. For example, the workers in the laboratory with Edison and Tesla were amazed at the high energy of these two men; they were said to work without sleep for two to three days when necessary. Such high energy served them well in their adult years; however, there are indications that it got Tesla into hot water, or rather milk, in childhood. According to Cheney Tesla was quite an active child,

"...he was almost drowned on numerous occasions, was nearly boiled alive in a vat of hot milk, just missed being cremated, and was once entombed (overnight in an old shrine). Hair raising flights from mad dogs, enraged flocks of crows, and sharp tusked hogs spiced this catalogue of near-catastrophes."

Whatever it is called, lists of characteristics of creative individuals often describe them as radiating vitality and having a high energy level. Adding another term to the group, Dabrowski described psychomotor overexcitability as one of the five areas of heightened sensitivity, along with intellectual, imaginational, emotional, or sensual, that individuals with the potential for higher development may possess. Defined as a surplus of energy, psychomotor overexcitability is manifested as physical activity and expression of emotional tension, e.g., rapid speech, restlessness, fast games and sports, marked enthusiasm, delinquent behavior, impulsive actions, and nervous habits.
In testing whether the overexcitabilities could distinguish between gifted and nonidentified students, Ackerman found that Psychomotor, along with Emotional, and Intellectual Overexcitabilities as measured by the Overexcitabilities Questionnaire, differentiated between the two groups. When comparing a more and less creative group, Gallagher discovered that students who scored in the top third on a figural test of creativity had significantly higher Psychomotor Overexcitability scores than those who scored in the bottom third on the creativity test. Calic's research compared a group selected for creativity and academic ability to one selected for academic ability alone on their responses to the OEQ. The more creative group (visual and performing artists) had higher Psychomotor, Imaginational, and Sensual Overexcitability scores than did the comparison group. Of course, not all creative individuals manifest such energy. Perhaps, as Piechowski and Cunningham conjectured, the pattern and interaction of heightened sensitivities may differentiate types of creative personalities as well as separate creative from intellectually gifted individuals.


According to the DSM-IV, diagnostic criteria for impulsivity include observations that the individual frequently calls out in class, and has difficulty awaiting a turn. The DSM-III-R also included the criterion of acting without thinking, often by engaging in dangerous activities without considering the outcome, although we were cautioned that this does not apply to thrill seeking behavior. Some problems may be noted immediately with the overlap of this criterion with the previous on of hyperactivity. Using Piechowski's description of Psychomotor Overexcitability, both high levels of activity and impulsivity would be included. Another problem is with the caveat that the impulsive behavior should be exclusive of thrill seeking. How would an observer differentiate? Perhaps that is why this descriptor has been dropped from the DSM-IV list.

One of the key descriptors of creative individuals is risk taking, sensation seeking, or thrill seeking. Described earlier as an innate temperamental trait of sensation seeking, perhaps it was this tendency that Ghiselin referred to as a need to transcend the established order into disorder and chaos motivated by a restlessness, or "less psychic inertia than average man".

Other Behavioral Similarities
Although the primary symptoms of ADHD are listed as inattention, impulsivity, and motor hyperactivity (Frick & Lahey, 1991), other characteristics include difficult temperament, deficient social skills, and academic underachievement. These symptoms do not sufficiently differentiate the creative from the child with ADHD either.

Difficult Temperament and Deficient Social Skills: The stories of creative individuals with what are considered difficult temperaments are so abundant that the characteristic has become a stereotype. According to Dabrowski, the emotional volatility that is a key to this perception would be expected in a creative person because of the heightened sensitivity and reactivity to emotions.

Individuals who exhibit unconventional behavior, as many creative people do (Sternberg, 1988), may be seen as lacking in social skills. Getzels and Csikszentmihalyi described the personalities of the artists that they studied as aloof and nonconforming to conventional standards of behavior

Kerr proposed that some antisocial behavior that creative people exhibit may be a defense against others' reactions to their differentness. Shee described eminent women with personality types of thorn or shells. The thorns are exemplified by Gertrude Stein, Georgia O'Keefe, and Margaret Mead whose behavior was often caustic; Marie Curie retreated into the shell of shyness that Eleanor Roosevelt and Maya Angelou fought to leave.

Deficient social skills may also be inferred from, or related to, a preference for solitude. Maslow made a case for privacy and detachment from others as essential to the creative process, and Piirto called solitude "the core of the creative process". Ochse explained the need for solitude both as part of the creative personality and process.
Academic Underachievement: Even academic underachievement is not a clear distinction between those who suffer from an impairing condition that requires treatment and those whose interests and talents do not coincide with school requirements. The stories of academic underachievement, or irregular school achievement, of famous creative individuals such as Einstein and Edison are legend. Goertzel, Goertzel, and Goertzel, in their chronicle of 300 eminent people, reported that the artists in the group were not typically considered to be good students in school. Just as Rutter speculates about the difficulty of differentiating between inattention and diverted attention, so too, is it difficult to differentiate between underachievement and diverted achievement in children.

The Nature of the Creativity-ADHD Relationship

The exact nature of the relationship between creativity and ADHD is not known at this time, in large part because creativity and ADHD are themselves such complex and puzzling constructs. However, there are several possible relationships.

The first, perhaps most obvious, is that there is not relationship. The purpose of this paper is to refute this belief by illustrating the many similarities in the behaviors that are indicative of both creativity and ADHD. Another possibility is that creativity and ADHD are two names for the same syndrome. This is also unlikely because of the many recorded cases of creative people who do not exhibit any characteristics of ADHD and vice-versa.

What we are left with is some overlap of creativity and ADHD. Most people who are knowledgeable about both creativity and ADHD would probably agree with this, but it is the nature of the overlap that spurs disagreement. There seems to be sufficient evidence that there could be physiological, cognitive, and/or temperament bases underlying both conditions. Certainly, there may be some people who are both highly creative and suffer from ADHD; however, it would seem that by definition such people could not be highly productive because a diagnosis of ADHD requires clinically significant impairment. For children, whose creative potential rather than productivity is identified, this may be more likely. However, there is also the concern that creativity may be mistaken for ADHD in some cases.

Although a thorough diagnosis will seek to exclude developmental disorders, mood disorders, and the like, many diagnoses are not thorough. According to Dr. Mark Stein, who runs a University of Chicago clinic for children and adults with ADHD, comprehensive evaluations are rarely done. Also, there is no similar caveat for clinicians to look for creativity. As Webb noted, few professionals evaluating a child for ADHD have had any training in recognizing the characteristics of the gifted and creative children.

It is the intent here to look at similarities between behaviors indicative of ADHD and creativity in order to question whether some children who exhibit such behaviors are doing so because they are creative and do not have a disorder. As Richters and Cicchetti argued, there is reason to question the usefulness of a behavioral diagnosis as an assumption of an underlying mental disorder. Such questions remind us to look at issues in light of new information and that "there are no fixed, immutable answers to questions concerning the boundaries between disorder and nondisorder".

Perhaps what differentiates individuals who use their rapid ideation to create versus those who are disruptive and unproductive is the talent and opportunity to express their energies and ideas in some creative mode. Some indication of this may be found in Barron's description of the findings of a series of studies of creative individuals in various fields carried out by the Institute of Personality Assessment and Research at the University of California at Berkeley in the 1960s. Using personality inventories, the researchers found the creative groups to have more evidence of psychopathology, but also greater ego strength than less creative comparison groups in the same professions. The conclusion about the creative groups was that "...they are much more troubled psychologically, but they also have far greater resources with which to deal with their troubles". Richards described the advantages of rapid ideation, heightened emotional awareness, and energy to creativity, but warned that there must be some balance of a strength to fully use these abilities so that they do not degenerate into psychopathology. Calic found that the creative adults in her study described how they used their energy, emotionality, sensuality, and rapid ideation to create.
Because IPAR's, Richards', and Calic's findings were based on studies of adults, it may be that understanding and control of ADHD-like behaviors is developmental. If such is the case, then perhaps it would be most helpful to assist children in finding creative outlets and tapping into their restlessness to produce something creative. The role of the parent and teacher would be to help the child find a mode of expression and learn to use that to get the ideas, emotions, and energy out productively.

ADHD and Giftedness

Although it has been the primary purpose of this paper to relate the similarity of behaviors indicative of ADHD and creativity, it is important to note that many intellectually gifted children also exhibit behaviors that are associated with a diagnosis of ADHD. Although it is possible for children to be both gifted and ADHD, there are dangers of misdiagnosis for gifted children when the evaluation is not thorough. Observed as inattentive, the gifted child may be bored. Described as hyperactive, the gifted child may be displaying a high energy level. Regarded as difficult and obstreperous, the gifted child may be questioning authority and creating a personal, complex rule system, in the world, was diagnosed as a toddler with ADHD and prescribed Ritalin. However, his parents declined drug treatment and decided to nurture Michael's genius with education instead. He started school at age three, entered junior college at six, and graduated from he University of South Alabama at ten. His father, Kevin Kearney, refused the notion that Michael's inattention is due to a lack of attention: "In fact, children like Michael have an attention surplus. He's so much faster than we are. In two seconds he's figured out what you're going to say. He's toyed with a few answers and now he's looking around waiting for you to finish. It looks like he's not paying attention and it drives teachers crazy.

According to Webb and Latimer, the most important distinctions between the gifted child and the child with ADHD are the situationality of the behavior and the variability of task performance. They have contended that the "activities of children with ADHD tend to be both continual and random; the gifted child's activity usually is episodic and directed to specific goals". Also, they have observed that children with ADHD exhibit inconsistency of performance and effort in almost all tasks and in all settings, except television or computer games, although the extent of the behaviors and the degree to which they are perceived as troublesome may vary; gifted children will usually do well in classes that are enjoyable and appropriately challenging. However, some researchers have not seen situational variability as a reason to rule out a diagnosis of ADHD. To clarify this, the newest DSM-IV guidelines for the diagnosis of ADHD recommend that the symptoms be observed in two or more situations and that the "disturbance causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, academic, or occupational functioning".

Summary Statement

Because Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder is a psychological classification that has undergone numbers changes in conceptualization and diagnosis over time, and because extant treatments for this disorder have shown limited and questionable long-term results, it is important for educators to look carefully at the behaviors that may warrant such a diagnosis and label for a child. This is of special concern to the field of gifted/creative education because the very behaviors that may induce a diagnosis of ADHD have also been shown to have correlates in the literature on creative behavior.

Parents and teachers are cautioned to look carefully at behaviors exhibited by children for what may be potentialities instead of deficiencies. Specific recommendations in this regard give guidance when a problem is suspected, when the child is recommended for psychological screening, and after a diagnosis of ADHD is made.
When Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder is suspected

Recommendation 1: Be open-minded to the possibility that difficult behaviors may be indicative of special abilities, such as creativity, as well as problems. Research basis: There are many similarities in the behavioral manifestations of creativity and ADHD that may cause errors in attribution. Farley and Shaw have speculated it is the very qualities that are involved in the ADHD diagnosis that enable creative responses.

Recommendation 2: Become knowledgeable about the behavioral manifestations of creativity and ADHD throughout the life span. Research Basis: Although more recent evidence indicates that ADHD is a lifelong condition, the very behaviors that cause difficulties for children in school situations may be helpful in adult careers for which high energy, risk-taking, flexibility in ideation, and ambition may be assets. Also, children with creative potential may not manifest consistent creative productivity, especially in certain fields, until they mature.

Recommendation 3: Observe and record under what conditions the key behaviors are intensified or reduced. Research Basis: Because ADHD-type behaviors may be exacerbated when the child is required to engage in unstimulating, highly structured, repetitive tasks, noting under what conditions the child is most likely to exhibit the behaviors may be instructive. According to Farley, sensation seeking behavior is increased in unstimulating environments.
Recommendation 4: Ask the child what s/he is thinking about right after a period of daydreaming. Research Basis: Because it is difficult to differentiate between inattention and diverted attention, it may be informative to discover whether the daydreaming child is not attending or is attending to alternative stimuli, plans, or ideas that are focused.

If the child is referred for psychological screening

Recommendation 5: Whenever possible, choose a psychologist who is knowledgeable about giftedness and creativity as well as Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, or willing to learn. Research Basis: Because there is no definitive test for ADHD, the diagnosis of this disorder is made through the use of behavioral checklists. Such a diagnosis is susceptible to the interpretations of various observers as to the frequency and severity of the behavior, and correlations of behaviors between parent and teacher reports have been low. Webb observed that few psychologists have had any training in recognizing characteristics of gifted and creative children. Therefore, a psychologist who is willing to learn about the similarity of characteristics, perhaps by reading a paper such as this, would be preferred.

Recommendation 6: Be sure that a creativity test or checklist is complete in addition to the ADHD checklist. Research Basis: Once the behaviors have been interpreted as deficiencies, it is unlikely that related proficiencies will be seen. In a recent study, it was determined that half of the ADHD diagnosed group scored above the 70th percentile on a test of creativity, yet only seven of the 34 (21%) children had been screen for the gifted program. Eleven of these children, 32% of the ADHD group, scored above the 90th percentile, and only six had been screened for the gifted program. None had any indications of observed creativity in their records, although several and indications of other problems such as learning disabilities and emotional handicaps.

If the child is diagnosed as having ADHD

Recommendation 7: Get a second opinion. Research Basis: Even in a clinical setting with diagnoses based on interviews and judgement of symptoms indicative of the DSM-III, reliability of diagnoses were very low. The definitions and criteria for diagnosis of ADHD have changed so often that even those who research ADHD are in conflict over its causes and defining behaviors. Children diagnosed under one version of the DSM criteria would not be diagnosed under another. Thus, whether a child is diagnosed with ADHD may depend to a large extent upon when and where the referral is made.

Recommendation 8: Provide opportunities both inside and outside of school to enhance creativity and build self-esteem. Research Basis: The emphasis in research and intervention with ADHD is on identifying deficiencies and remediating them. Although good school-practices for ADHD children should focus on strengths as well as weaknesses, it is often up to the parents to provide opportunities for expression of creative strengths outside of school. A negative label may affect not only the way a child is perceived by teachers, but also the child's self esteem. If medication is prescribed, there may be psychological effects on attribution for behavior, in that the child gives up responsibility for his behavior and charges his good or bad behavior to the medication. Therefore, it is important to bolster the self esteem and nurture strengths as much as possible within school and without. Parents and teachers should work together to help the child find a mode of expression and learn to use that to get the ideas, emotions, and energy out productively.

About the Author...

Dr. Bonnie Cramond is an Associate Professor of Education Psychology at the University of Georgia and an affiliate for the Torrance Center for Creative Studies.

Jenjor 10-06-05 05:28 PM

Great stuff! Thanks for sharing Nova. Although I definitley have a lot of creative thoughts, I still have yet to manifest them into something concrete and "artistic"

SB_UK 10-06-05 05:47 PM

Perhaps nothing concrete, but definitely *not* 'not artistic'.

The very currency of creativity and art is all in the mind,

Any objects made from this currency, are generally only themselves
purchased to permit transference of these thoughts.

The objects don't have to be a painting or a sculpture or a poem.

Maybe we should look at art as being head rather than eye candy.



Originally Posted by Jenjor
Great stuff! Thanks for sharing Nova. Although I definitley have a lot of creative thoughts, I still have yet to manifest them into something concrete and "artistic"

Nova 10-06-05 06:07 PM

Jen...You ARE a work of art, Babydoll !
Y'all should see how pretty she is !!!

ubermoi25 10-06-05 07:45 PM

I always believed that creativty and ADD where extremely linked.
In many cases just the brain structure could be it...or the very things that are "flaws" are responsible.Impulsivity and hyperactivity are creation in action!
Look when someone who is intuitive and ready to go ahead with something will naturaly be more creative.It just seems that they are inattentive because they are not interested.When you consider that so many of the most creative and famous musicians ,inventors and scientists that were/are likely to have ADD.

They must be linked.

Fluvial_Shell 11-28-06 08:30 PM

*Few* Yeah, I'll come back and read this when I've got some spare time. It really does look interesting. In the mean time, check out my current thread in this section titled "Separating traits and behaviors from the person?" If someone knows how to insert a link to another thread, I'd love to know.

It's more of an emotional response to the causitive lumping of these things with regard to relationships. And that emotional aspect is huge--it's about how we see ourselves, I'm sure you'd agree.

If you don't know me, I'm...

-Fluvial Shell

Grade A 11-28-06 08:35 PM

Where is my creativity? Hmmm locked deep down somewhere waiting to be found I guess.

One thing I am great at is working under deadline...well...thinking on my feet so-to-speak. I can get things done when pushed to the limit.

Fluvial_Shell 11-28-06 09:22 PM

That's interesting -- seems almost counter-add. I crumble under pressure and deadlines. I can't finish things and a lot of half-completed products becuasue my distractability makes it SOOO easy to procrastinate and do other things...such as respond to this instead of writing my report. ;-)

As for creativity, I believe it's something that must be nurtured. I was taught to be a perfectionist of classical music technique on my violin as a boy for over ten years, yet not once was I asked or encouraged to *make* new music--to improvise or compose. Talk about resentment of childhood. I see my nephew, very much like me, and he has so much creative potential--it's practically bursting out. I just hope my sister doesn't cram perfectionism down his throat. I secretly imagine steeling him for a month and sending him to various music festivals--bluegrass, jazz, and jam bands--to plant some seeds of creativity.

I'm glad you're great under deadlines. But I don't understand. Is that natural or something you learned to cope with ADD tendancies?


charonshanti 11-28-06 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Fluvial_Shell
I'm glad you're great under deadlines. But I don't understand. Is that natural or something you learned to cope with ADD tendancies?

For some ADD'ers deadlines may trigger the opposite of too little focus--sometimes called hyperfocus. It creates a little world of its own and time goes by unnoticed while the brain works at lightspeed. Well, sometimes at lightspeed. In my case, the ADD pattern has been to find myself simply unable to start a project until the looming deadline makes it a crisis.... at which point the adrenaline surges and the brain starts working, hyperfocus kicks in, I stay up all night working and neglect anything else I should be doing, produce fantastic work for the deadline and walk around like a zombie the next day. That's how I've dealt with deadlines ever since I can remember. It's not always so extreme. It's a gift or a curse, depending on how and when it kicks in. When it absorbs you into creative work it's a gift. I personally can't do much creative unless hyperfocus kicks in.

Fluvial_Shell 11-28-06 10:09 PM

Yes, I've read about this in ADD literature, but I'm not completely sure how I share it. I can remember in my undergraduate years that I pulled some all-nighters. I would procrastinate well into the all-nighter, knowing the big thing was looming over me. But then, whatever it was...a sense of sheer panic or divine lightning, I'd huff, breath deeply, and go start doing the thing. By 2am or so, I'd be half-way through my paper, saying to myself, "Man, this is pretty interesting stuff. I could have written one hell of a paper if I had started early." Then I turn in some amazing but ultimately incomplete stuff and go crash for a day. Then I'd get a B or C along with prasing comments about my intellect. This happenned 3 or 4 times during college.

Now that I'm in grad school, all nighters just don't fly--or maybe I'm getting too old or there's too much at stake (you can't just crash for a day and everything be allright). So I see much fewer of those hyperfocus instances, because by the time the panic hits to kick it in, it's just too late. Check that...there was one 20-page paper I wrote, but it was a day late. The professor and my advisor told me that it was brilliant--absolutely fascinating. I got a C. :( *sigh*

Did I mention that graduate school for someone with hard-core ADD is a little bit like trying to climb Mt. Everist with no legs? It's an excercize/test in organization and focus, and I'm out chasing butterflies (metaphorically). So I just discovered my new signature:
"Do you know why ADHD is a federally-listed disability? Huh, do you? Well let me tell you... Because it is a disability--a measurable, quantifiable disability that prevents us from easily doing that which most people take for granted. Until you wrap your head around that, we're wasting each others time." (parting words delivered to a particularly hard-headed career counselor)

meadd823 11-29-06 05:22 AM


Do you know why ADHD is a federally-listed disability? Huh, do you? Well let me tell you... Because it is a disability--a measurable, quantifiable disability that prevents us from easily doing that which most people take for granted. Until you wrap your head around that, we're wasting each others time." (parting words delivered to a particularly hard-headed career counselor)
I fail to understand this perhaps because it is the end of a converstaion or some thing but it sounds a bit angry how about a little bit of balance here . . .

This was my signaute for a while. . .

More than the sum total of our parts,beyond diagnostic labels,deeper than our given names,we are as we were meant to be.

This is one I am considering in the furtue . . .

Having ADD isn't my choice however HOW I have ADD is and always will be.

Due to some rather intense debates about executive functions I took an interest in said subject. . . an excerpt from a rather unlikly source . . . I found it rather interseting. I also think it falls in nicely with the topic.

“The Executive Brain”
Elkhonon Goldberg (forwarded by Oliver Sacks)
Page 180

Our culture traditionally approaches neurological disorder as a deficit a loss. This is reflected in our terminology: aphasia – loss of language; amnesia loss of memory. Hypermnesia and hyperverbality, when they occur are viewed by society as a mnemonic or literary gift, not as a pathology. But if the norm is defined as the population average, then talent is by definition a deviation from the norm. The relationship between talent and psychopathy has intrigued and beguiled both clinicians and those afflicted (or blessed)

It is common to distinguish in neurological and neuropsychological conditions between “negative” and “positive” symptoms. Negative symptoms reflect the loss of some thing that should normally be present, such as the ability to walk, talk, and see things. Positive symptoms reflect the presence of some thing that is not part of normal cognition, such as hallucinations or tics. Negative symptoms are more readily comprehensible, easier to conceptualize, measure quantify and subject to rigorous scientific examination. Positive symptoms are usually more elusive more mysterious but also more intriguing and challenging. They hint at an inner world that is different and not merely impoverished – at the presence of a neurological condition which not only robs but also endows. ***End Quote

~underlining and coloring mine~

See broken if this is what works for you, it is after all your ADD . . how ever I have already tried this approach and it doesn't work for me . . we can still respect each other despite our difference. . .

luke 11-29-06 05:33 AM

From my experience , people meditate to lower their brainwaves down to a theta state... ADDers live in that state...

Ive read into creativity courses before, and they teach how to daydream to inspire creativity... My life is one Giant daydream!!

Grade A 11-29-06 10:37 AM

I am the type of person who procrastinates to the last possible moment, then I get something done. Like at work lol :)

Tara 11-29-06 12:51 PM

My creativity is defonitly link to my ADD. I'm get very creative when my cognitive hyperactivity is in overdrive. For the life of me I can not understand why experts like Barkley dimiss creatvity as being connected to ADD. Maybe they have a different defination on creativity that I do.

I think creativity is a double edged sword though. What good is my creativy if it gets in the way of me being productive. Don't get me wrong I have come up with some of my best ideas when I was avioding things I should have been doing.

Nova 11-29-06 01:32 PM

Think about every single invention ever created (first 'created' as a 'thought'), and how each of them was most likely dismissed initially as 'daft', prior to their manifestation into a tangible 'object'...

The actual difference between each, whether they remain as a 'thought' only, and materializing into an 'invention' or 'product' that one *sees* in a store, or otherwise, is the level of 'passion/enthusiasm/belief' involved with the individual, who had the original 'thought'..(when I say belief-I mean unwaivering belief in their 'idea/thought'-as in without any doubt)

Every product, from a paperclip to a airliner jet, was once a personal 'thought', that became a 'created' object/invention/product.

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