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MindBlind 11-25-17 08:08 AM

Suspected Bipolar 2. Feeling really stupid.
 
Last year I was diagnosed with ADHD and I think itís an accurate diagnosis. However due to my mood swings over the years and antidepressants needing to be switched and adjusted, Iím seriously suspecting that I might have Bipolar 2. Iím not sure about that. I feel stupid because the ADHD diagnosis took so long to get assessed for and people invested a lot of time and effort into helping me but Iím still not functioning. Iím worried that if I bring up Bipolar that theyíll think Iím just shopping for a diagnosis. I donít know what to do right now. Maybe keep a mood chart?

Emre22 11-25-17 08:16 AM

Re: Suspected Bipolar 2. Feeling really stupid.
 
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Originally Posted by MindBlind (Post 1975277)
Last year I was diagnosed with ADHD and I think itís an accurate diagnosis. However due to my mood swings over the years and antidepressants needing to be switched and adjusted, Iím seriously suspecting that I might have Bipolar 2. Iím not sure about that. I feel stupid because the ADHD diagnosis took so long to get assessed for and people invested a lot of time and effort into helping me but Iím still not functioning. Iím worried that if I bring up Bipolar that theyíll think Iím just shopping for a diagnosis. I donít know what to do right now. Maybe keep a mood chart?

Have you ever experienced something like hypomania or manic episode?
I have mood swings too but my doctor said it is happening because i have too much impulsivity.
I think it isnt easy to say that you have bipolar disorder due to only mood swings.

MindBlind 11-25-17 01:31 PM

Re: Suspected Bipolar 2. Feeling really stupid.
 
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Originally Posted by Emre22 (Post 1975282)
Have you ever experienced something like hypomania or manic episode?
I have mood swings too but my doctor said it is happening because i have too much impulsivity.
I think it isnt easy to say that you have bipolar disorder due to only mood swings.


I have had hypomanic symptoms and mixed symptoms but I agree - mood swings donít automatically mean bipolar. I hope these mood swings are just the impulsivity part of my ADHD but itís distressing nonetheless.

allesandro1 11-25-17 08:41 PM

Re: Suspected Bipolar 2. Feeling really stupid.
 
that's a tough question. I think maybe seeing someone weekly might be a good idea because they can offer an objective opinion. it's a tricky diagnosis.

DeClutter 11-27-17 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MindBlind (Post 1975277)
I’m worried that if I bring up Bipolar that they’ll think I’m just shopping for a diagnosis. I don’t know what to do right now. Maybe keep a mood chart?

AD(H)D and Bipolar do overlap in my opinion, if i look back at my life there have been highs and lows, which could even fit in hypomaniac and depressed states.

But ussually when i look back there are clearly parallel factors in my life that i can point out that from an ADD/hyperfocus point of view influence my mood states for longer periods of time. It is rarely that i get depressed when things are going well, same goes for the other way around. I think herein lies the difference.

Lash107 11-27-17 08:11 AM

Re: Suspected Bipolar 2. Feeling really stupid.
 
There’s no reason to feel stupid...only a qualified doctor (psychiatrist) can evaluate you for bipolar disorder. In my opinion, a mood chart can be helpful ... but the first thing is to see a psychiatrist as soon as possible.

I have bipolar disorder 1 and I’ve found that I’ve had issues with concentration, distractibility, focus, etc., that have some similarities to ADD.

Follow your gut instinct and if you do not like the psychiatrist, go see another one. Describe your symptoms and your concern that you may have bipolar disorder. Let them know about any meds you are on and any other diagnoses (such as ADHD diagnosis). They will take it from there.

Keep us posted!

sarahsweets 12-01-17 05:54 AM

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I am bipolar II and I had to treat that first before I could address the adhd. I take a cocktail of meds that saved my life and have kept me out of the hospital for quite a few years. For me the "mania" isnt your typical risk taking, dangerous mania. Its hypomania where I wont sleep and get super super hype and up. My husband will always notice this before me and ask me if I took my meds and I get mad at him and say" why cant I just be happy. why does it always have to be a bipolar thing"? Them Ill be up all night inapproriately starting projects and leaving them, cleaning and just up. Then comes the depressive crash where I am on the couch for three days. My point is my husband knows the mania is cycle is happening before I do. I dont even realize its starting or that I am in it until the depressive crash.

MindBlind 01-01-18 08:57 PM

Re: Suspected Bipolar 2. Feeling really stupid.
 
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Originally Posted by DeClutter (Post 1975584)
AD(H)D and Bipolar do overlap in my opinion, if i look back at my life there have been highs and lows, which could even fit in hypomaniac and depressed states.

But ussually when i look back there are clearly parallel factors in my life that i can point out that from an ADD/hyperfocus point of view influence my mood states for longer periods of time. It is rarely that i get depressed when things are going well, same goes for the other way around. I think herein lies the difference.

Well I am admittedly quite reactive to the events in my life, however a lot of my moods just come out of nowhere. Iíll go through periods of feeling low and Iíll still feel like crap even when things are okay. Iíve also had periods of incredible optimism despite plunging into debt due to impulse spending and ebay bidding. Last year I won a prize from a summer challenge and I ended up having this idea in my head that I could win stuff or get rich by virtue of being more ďluckyĒ, I guess. I also signed up for a bunch of classes and ended up enrolling on a masters program (which I ended up having to take time out of because of anxiety and paranoia). At least, my family thought that I jumped into it too quickly (though thatís also an ADHD thing).

Oh, and my moods are way more sensitive these days to the seasons. Never used to be this way until I went to uni. Itís usually the springtime and summer months that I embark on the zaniest of my zany schemes and in autumn and winter when I just want to crawl into a cave and die. Apparently bipolar people are highly susceptible to SAD so I thought Iíd mention that.

With all that being said, there very well could have been extenuating circumstances that triggers these mood changes instead of bipolar. Like, I still feel tired because of insomnia (well, my body does anyway). I think if into were genuine bipolarity I wouldnít still feel physically tired from lack of sleep. Iím tracking my symptoms so hereís hoping that itís not bipolar and thatís iím just being a hypochondriac.

Thanks folks! Iíll keep you guys posted.

CharlesH 01-02-18 12:40 AM

Re: Suspected Bipolar 2. Feeling really stupid.
 
In general, the way I think of this issue is that ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disorder. That means that, if you have always had symptoms of hyperactivity/inattention that can be traced consistently to early childhood, and if those symptoms cannot be better explained by a different disorder, then you probably have (at least) ADHD.

If the answer to the above is no, then you probably should never have been diagnosed with ADHD in the first place, and bipolar looks more likely.

If you do indeed have ADHD, then figure out with your treatment team whether the hypomanic symptoms can be reasonably explained by your ADHD. If yes, then you probably don't have bipolar. If no, then you probably have both ADHD and bipolar.


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