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Old 03-10-12, 12:28 AM
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Re: Possible Fix to ADHD Drug Shortages

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That's the DEA's position, roughly. My point was, if it's true, shouldn't they be able to prove it easily?
They publish full numbers. But the DEA had end-product juristiction removed 8 years ago as part of the reorganization under the various homeland security bills. So now you have two divisions, each one only handling one half of the problem. This issue is more at fault, this disconnect between raw material and end product, than any quota. The FDA retains end-product juristiction, while DEA is raw material juristiction. End result, you get a blame game.
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Re: Possible Fix to ADHD Drug Shortages

And contrary to popular belief, not trying to start an argument, nor to be contrary, just trying to dispel a common misperception so we can get the real issue fixed which is a far bigger problem than just our medication (which is already a big enough problem for us as it is). This disconnect in federal agencies causes problems in many areas, each one pointing the finger at the others.
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Somewhat. Companies do file with the DEA for how much of the raw material they wish to produce, and the DEA then can agree with them, or adjust the amount up or down. Incidentally, the DEA report on Schedule II quotas published on Jan 6th 2012 lists that they have had to push the amount of Methylphenidate that companies are authorized to produce from the requested 35,000,000 kg to 56,000,000 kg in 2011 alone. The drug producers wanted to produce 21 million kg *less* than the quota made them produce. Eliminating the quota system would have made the drug shortfall problems worse, not better, by the reports.
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Could you please cite your sources for this information? Thanks.
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Could you please cite your sources for this information? Thanks.
The DEA's website for prescription medication quotas includes all of the information given:

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/quotas/index.html

Also multiple articles, such as this one by Gloria Rood of Grove Ridge Consulting:

https://www.gplus.com/business-of-me...than-dea-53952

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Re: Possible Fix to ADHD Drug Shortages

my head is spinning trying to figure this out .....


a couple of things jump out at me .....

.>>> there's no shortages, nor has there ever been, of the expensive stimulant meds. ( i.e. Vyvanse....)


>>>>>there are yearly shortages of the affordable stumulant meds .......


>>>>>the drug manufacterers say it's the fault of the DEA, not enough raw materials dispensed to them


>>>>>>the DEA say that they dispense plenty of the raw material for the stim meds


>>>>>>the whole thing is complicated by one company making the Vyvanse, and the generic stim meds .....( does Shire also make the brand name Adderall ?)


and that's basically what the problem is .....



the who why and wherefor are still being muddied by all involved ......
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Re: Possible Fix to ADHD Drug Shortages

Downix,

I saw the aggregrate quota for 2011, but I am not finding what the pharma companies requested in 2011. Where did you find this?
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