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Re: ADHD and OCD. It's not all bad.

They make money off of prescribing drugs, so maybe a diagnosis of OCD with probable cause gives them an excuse to issue another prescription. Kinda messed up how that works...
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Re: ADHD and OCD. It's not all bad.

You seem to have a lot of mental health awareness in your family which I think is going to work in your favour. A lot of people here deal with self-esteem issues from being told all their life that their failures are moral and character deficiencies, and even with a diagnosis, get questioned whether it's false.

I've been in that boat, and to this day, still have moments where guilt and shame are causing paralysis, because I had to stop and question myself because of the self-doubt my guardian instilled in me. And it's a different battle when one needs to argue for just the acceptance that they have a legitimate problem.

Kudos that you've got things in relative order. Justin Timberlake once said that he has both OCD and ADHD (but not in a way that could be confirmed true or false).

I do agree that positive thinking is better than being negative and pessimistic. I apply that in my own life extensively.

But this is a support forum after all, so people are going to come here to vent and need emotional support. Especially when the people in their life are either not helping or just making them feel worse.

Welcome though. My wife has Pure Obsessive OCD so I can relate a bit to what you say from what I know about her.
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Re: ADHD and OCD. It's not all bad.

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They make money off of prescribing drugs, so maybe a diagnosis of OCD with probable cause gives them an excuse to issue another prescription. Kinda messed up how that works...
You might be on to something there... but I think more often than not it's a problem of miscommunication.

I think when a patient is assertive, observant, and advocates for their own care, doctors are less likely to keep throwing diagnoses at you.

If they still do, they're incompetent, have an agenda, or are too egotistical and patronizing to be bothered to listen to you, and in all of those instances you should RUN!
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Yeah, I'm glad you decided to accept you had a limitation.

I still think it's important to seek help for the things you find seriously detrimental. If I didn't do the research that I did (about 20 hours worth in total) and then conclude that I might have a problem with ADHD my life would be a total mess right now.

Along those same lines, now that I'm on this medication and know I have this disorder, life is changing very quickly for me, and it is hard to come to terms with immediately and feel comfortable with it. If I hadn't found this forum the process would be exponentially longer and more confusing and troublesome. So thanks everyone!

First of all, I find this a little flippant. Accept that whomever you were responding to has a disability? It's not a matter of accepting, as I see it, but rather learning how to live around it.

And only 20 hours of research? That isn't that much. Especially not considering how debilitating this can be and how many lives in can ruin per ADHDer. That's great though that your little bit of research has helped your life improve so much... but it's not that easy for everyone. I would daresay you are probably the tiny percentage of those with ADHD that a few hours of reading has drastically helped.
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Re: ADHD and OCD. It's not all bad.

20 hours is still better than 10 minutes.

I found out from reading a book...which I still haven't finished. Then I did a bunch of in depth tests. Joined a forum before this one, asked them about if being low on energy was an ADHD thing - they said get tested for diabetes. I ran away crying. Not really but if I could choose to not have something it'd be that. Then I joined this place and because years ago a diagnoses for ADHD for something like $1000 I put it off.
After pestering my mum she took me to my current psychiatrist who ordered some MRIs and a trial prescription. During that time I learned I was ADHD.
Since I've been researching brain studies in ADHD and coming to this fine place.

The low energy was due to Inattentive ADHD (even though combined) and the worser (real scientific word there) symptoms are due to hypoglycaemia. You know like weakness, fainting and shaking and stuff.
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Re: ADHD and OCD. It's not all bad.

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20 hours is still better than 10 minutes.
Yeah... you are right. No denying that
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Re: ADHD and OCD. It's not all bad.

Those without OCD don't, well, CAN'T really understand it. It's all about dibilitating anxiety. In fact, I wasn't going to post this because I was required to register on the site. That produced enough anxiety for me to want to forget it. However, I then though about sharing that point on the forum and registered anyway.

I don't know about anyone else, but my OCD has seemed to get worse over time. I currently treat the OCD with an SRI and the ADHD w/ Adderall XR. It doesn't make me normal though. It's kind-of like having a wheelchair--you can get around but there are a lot of things you still can't do--but, unlike a wheelchair, the nobody's aware of it (often including yourself) until you're figuratively sprawled out on a staircase wondering what's wrong.

If you want a desciption of what I have found OCD mixed with ADHD to be like, read on! If you read it with an attitude of trying to rationalize each thing away, inferring that I do not have OCD, you are welcome to do that. I know that semantics poses a major hurdle when trying to describe these types of things so please try to read into my meaning even if my choice of words is poor.

Example 1: You're about to do something that you know how to do and that you know is easy to do, but instead of doing it, you don't because you feel all bothered, impatient, and stressed out.

Example 2: You have VERY inappropriate and intrusive thoughts. Sitting on the floor to change your child's diaper is very stressful because of the disgusting way that your reletive positions may be interpreted.

Example 3: While attempting to do assignments for school, you throw away dozens of papers because after you write your name, it doesn't look right. You like to use a ccertain brand and type of pen because it writes smoothly and you "feel" that ink looks neat. You tried to use a pencil (so you can erase instead of throwing the whole paper out) but you can't get your mind off the fact that you aren't using your pen. You decide to buy a new mechnical pencil with softer lead to make it write more like a pen. You go to the bookstore or Staples (becaues you already know that Walmart doesn't carry the brand of mechanical pencil that you like) and return with the new pencil, 3 types of replacement lead, and extra erasers.

As you start to do your homework (you're still trying to write your name so it looks right) you decide to come up with a "new" way to write your name. An hour passes while you experiement with new signatures and ways to write your name. Nome of them look right. You've done all this in pen because you're just going to through the paper away anyways. It's scratch paper. You realize that you've wasted over 2 hours between going ot the store and practicing your signature and this is VERY frustrating. You feel angry that you wated so much time and go back to your pen to drive home the lesson that you should never have gone to the store to begin with. You write you name and through away several more pieces of paper before you finally rationalize that, although you shouldn't have bought the pencil, the fact is that you have it now and it would be foolish to not use it. You write your name and, of course, it doesn;t look "right". you try to erase it but discover that the softer lead (graphite actually) won't fully erase. This makes you really quite livid. For the most part, you hold it all inside and go over all the time-wasting mistakes you have made while trying to do this assignment.

While freaking out you remember the Pilot Frixion pens you saw at Staples that feature erasible ink that is sensitive to the heat caused by friction. You return to Staples and buy one in black, red, and blue. When you get home you are deep in thought about how to use all three colors on your assignment in a way that would be beneficial. The second trip and brainstorming session take at lease an hour. Finally, you write your name, try to erase it, and it disappears! The product actually works! You are so amazed you get on Facebook and update your status to tell everyone about the pens. While there you have to check every new post and whatever on facebook. Then you check a news site or two to see if anything new has happened in the last couple of hours. This usually takes 15 to 20 minutes, but today, it only takes 5 minutes. This feels wierd becuase you kind-of expected it would take longer so you find something on you tube about "Electric Universe Theory." You find facinating but you don't understant everything because you have forgotten lots of the stuff you learned in physics. You pause the video to open up a new tab to watch physics lecture videos.

You begin to take notes but you write a word wierdly and you can't erase it because you are using your pen. At this point, all the things you have been doing instead of your assignment flood back into your mind, you are freaking furious at yourself close your browser with aggression that might normally be associated with getting caught looking at kiddie porn in a kindergarten. You have to understand that the manner in which you close the browser, all tabs at once and in an angry way, is very important. You're so worked up that you go for a walk to settle down. Fast forward to 1 AM. You finally complete the assignment because the fear and panic associated with not completing it overrides the discomfort associtated with little mistakes. The next day, you miss your first classes becuase you slept through your alarm. You are on your way to your car and will turn in your assignment on the way. You're thinking about the electric universe theory and about how, next time, you will go over in your mind that you are watching for entertainment purposes and thus, you do not need to take any physics courses. You then offer your own counter point about the virtues of relearning alot of physics. After all, why not watch physics lectures for entertainment and then watch the electric universe videos. you get in your car and stop by Staples to get a fresh notebook for physics notes. You have forgotten all about your assignment.

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Re: ADHD and OCD. It's not all bad.

Wow. I sure hope I don't have OCD. I related to a lot of that. I have autism though and those symptoms overlap. Doing things perfectly like putting a piece of tape on absolutely straight used to drive me mad. Now I can sort of tolerate not getting it perfect every time. I get the intrusive thoughts though.

I've done the name thing though and recently I was trying to make a mock site for my friend who is a singer/musician, and I spent hours working on getting the text in the header right. I never did. I gave up on the site and couldn't believe I was actually going to commit to something I didn't have the experience for. And I don't. I'm rotten with writing code.
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Superhuman? STAHP! Washing my hands until they bled didn't make me feel very superhuman my Adhd and OCD/ed were like hell on Ice having compulsions that require checking tapping and repetition with a short term memory problem processing problems And a terrible attention span is as close to hell as I think my life has ever been imagine crying on th kitchen floor because you can't finish your tapping routine without getting distracted and as a result your pretty sure you and everyone close to you is going to die OCD f**king sucks
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Whilst my OCD has died Down its like trying to close an overstuffed suitcase it eventually pushes out somewhere else I kill one obsession and another comes the vomit phobia n germ phobia will never go :/ my OCD is the most f**ked up coping mechanism for my ADHD thanks brain it doesn't even work :-/
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Re: ADHD and OCD. It's not all bad.

If your disorder works for you, its not really a disorder, so I don't really understand the original post. Disorder means to negatively affect your life. If you find these traits to be helpful then. . . .
OCD and ADD have wrecked the lives of people in my family, I mean, literally physically stopped them from leading a good and full life. If I had OCD that benefited me, I wouldn't call myself OCD.
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Re: ADHD and OCD. It's not all bad.

Seeing your disorder working for you is a coping mechanism in itself. There's still impairment there but you just want to grasp onto something positive that relates to the symptoms so you don't feel like you're stuck living with these frustrating symptoms for the rest of your life.

I'm not exactly talking about OCD here. I do get restless and anxious in a messy room though. I clean my room a lot very thoroughly. Partly it's related to anxiety about an infestation of bed bugs that I've just dealt with. This anxiety keeps my bedroom clean and hell, I don't even like to stay in bed in the morning or become too depressed. OK, so that probably is an irrational phobia.

As much as I'm constantly running around and doing things last minute because of ADHD I will deliberately not take my meds to have constant thoughts and hyperactivity.

Autism is the really sucky one but it gives me a great memory for facts, an obsession and experienced knowledge on my special interests and a natural ability at grouping things and having more structure in my life.

So, if someone wants to view their OCD/ADHD/autism whatever as positive because it might just help them then I see no reason to say otherwise. They're living their life, not yours. Different experiences. Shutting someone down for something they truly believe helps them will most probably make them depressed and start hating their condition again.

I was really excited about reading about personality types because here was a description of me said by a stranger. It actually got me out of a depressive episode. Then my friend shuts me down by calling it not science and therefore nothing to take seriously, and I fell right back into depression.

What we say can impact people in ways we're not aware of.

So, while by definition 'disorder' is something negative, an impairment, some people choose to see it another way. And what right does one have to stomp on their joy? Just to give them the facts, to enlighten them? I couldn't give a sh** about the facts if it got in the way of someone's happiness. And I do usually love a good fact.

When people say that it's not all bad they aren't saying anything about your experience of the condition, because they don't know how it affects you. I can understand feeling a twang of anger at someone saying that something you struggle with is 'not all bad' but I can also see where they are coming from.

There's not just one type of OCD too. It's not always about rituals. If I did have that type of OCD I may not see it as positive at all. There's pure obsessional OCD which I think my sister has (diagnosed) and OCPD which I'm the closest to.

In fact, I'm unsure about going on anti-depressants because it may take away my obsessional behaviour which is directly tied to my intense interests. Last time I lost them for the 8 months I was on meds and the 6 months it took for them to wear off. So, even though I'm impaired (which I am) I see a positive side to these many conditions I have.

If I didn't I would probably lose all confidence in myself and fall into my very deep and often worrying (to people on this forum at least) depression.
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Re: ADHD and OCD. It's not all bad.

Just read the first page of the thread. I don't think my OCDish behaviour is a coping mechanism. The symptoms used to be very mild and unnoticeable and happening in the background of my mind but as my anxiety worsens it worsens.

Sigh. I'll probably start obsessing over having OCD now. I went through that with bipolar.

And I think the OP was just trying to make us feel better instead of feeling constantly downtrodden by these frustrating at times impairing symptoms.

Need I even to list my current situation?

Never had employment last longer than a few hours at night.
Living with sister who badly needs therapy/meds for bipolar and OCD
Mother is taking care of ex who is an a** so can't live with her.
Too anxious to walk around town alone besides walking up and down my street (and sometimes not even then).
Trying to overcome PTSD and constantly convincing myself that people don't want to kill me.
Have such severe sensory issues that I can't go outside or work
Hypoglycemia also makes me reluctant to be away from my home for long, as does epilepsy.
Fear of change puts up so many barriers and is even affecting my own health, as I need to get some issues sorted but if no one is there to drive me to the doctor's office I can't go.
If I don't try to avoid a depressive episode I run the risk of it turning into suicidal thoughts.
The usual ADHD symptoms getting in the way of reaching my goals.
The loneliness of living with a communication disorder like autism. The meltdowns aren't very fun too.
The frustration of ODD and confusion of what my own opinion is.
The guilt of being a social manipulator.
Anxiety being a constant companion to me in possibly every part of my life.
The thoughts I would rather deny and forget I had.

If I saw a disorder as nothing but negative I'd just give up. I have good reason to.

I know a lot of people here can relate to that list but I have to see something good in those conditions in order to keep myself going.

Even though the OP is mild it doesn't mean he/she doesn't have OCD. Mild anxiety can feel pretty bad. Mild ODD can cause a lot of problems too. I've known a lot of people with mild AS who have seen their disorder as positive. As much as I have told them I hated them in the past, I've become a lot more understanding.
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