150% working treatment for ADD ADHD scarce-energy

[addman001]

Hello dear ADD, ADHD and scarce-energy sufferers

After 10 years of attempts I have found a supplements regimen that helps a great deal with my inattentive ADD, lack of energy and lack of productivity.

Previously I was productive about 1/3 of a normal person, at work, and home, and in social activities, and I needed to sacrifice all my free time and weekends to barely keep up for school and university studies, and later for not being fired at work. With this regimen I am about 50% more productive than the average person (that's why I call it 150% working treatment), so that's a 6-fold increase in productivity. I can now do in a weekend what previously took more than a full week to accomplish! My life is reborn, it's like I had never lived before!

Frankly there are still problems in paying attention listening to people who say things that are not of my interest, so the most fundamental problem of ADD (inattention) is still there, notwithstanding the subject of this post, but with this level of energy and productivity I feel I more than compensate for this defect. Note that also the decision-making problem of ADD is definitely solved by these supplements.
Note that this mix is not cheap at about 10 euro / day, but at 6x the normal productivity it's worth its cost.

Finding these supplements was an epic task: I have tried more than 130 substances on my own body in an arc of 10 years, including many prescription drugs (also Methylphenidate, two SSRIs, benzodiazepines, Reboxetine, selegiline, PEA, Galantamine, Huperzine, pseudoephedrine, vasodilaters, ginseng, citicoline, tyrosine to name a few, and most "normal" supplements available on earth), many times risking my life with intolerances and overdosing. A good number of substances worked at first, but I got tolerance build up quickly (2-6 weeks) to all of them, to the point I believed I would never be able to overcome my problem and I was near to suicide.
This mix does not cause tolerance to me. Probably my ADD was caused by a depletion of chemicals, so that even adding stimulants, they would only work for some time but then aggravating the depletion they would stop working (MAYBE, not sure).

The following "magic mix" has worked for two years for me (some sub-parts, for much longer) with no sign of tolerance build-up so I am disclosing it confident it will keep working forever. All previous substances were stopping working ("tolerance" or the like) in 2-6 weeks.

In the following "magic mix" please excuse the fact that I'm mentioning the brands of ths supplements. I know it looks like spam like this, but I really have no affiliation to any producer. Unfortunately I found is quite significant difference for me among the various brands, and also I want to shorten your time to find the stuff required to test this.

For most supplements I am sure they are required, i.e. removing them removes at least a part of the effect. Just a few were not double checked by attempting to remove them, and I will mention this fact in the list.

You will neeed a small shaker such as the Myprotein Blender Bottle Mini from myprotein.co.uk .

Morning (also watch out for the order):
- In the shaker:
- 50ml of water
- 1 x 6g sugar cube (needed to better absorb the rest)
- 2 x PeakATP with Glycocarn capsules(open the capsule and pour the content in the shaker)
- 1 drop of DMAE-H3, Liquid 1.66 oz from Twinlab . Solid DMAE is much more problematic for me... Please note I am particularly sensitive at 1 drop only, you might need to up the dosage. Too much and you will feel drained, distressed, depressed and angry, too little and you will feel spacey and without energy and determination. This is a very important "knob" to tune your regimen. Note: this supplement is of utmost importance.
- [Shake well here]
- 3g (3/4 of a measure) of psyllum husk by "Psyllogel Fibra barattolo by Nathura" (Italian otc medication). This is probably not needed if your intestine is in a good shape. I have not found good international substitutes for psyllogel, they are either too fine, making an un-eatable thick layer such as that of Now Foods, or too raw and not hygroscopic such as that of MyProtein. You might find Psyllogel barattolo over the internet. As I said this is probably not needed if your intestine is good and you don't get diarrhea, stipsis or irritation (excessive urine output) with these supplements.
- [Shake well here] it should be a semi-solid gel when you "eat" it. Clearly it won't become a gel without psyllum husk.
- Drink the content. Last part that sticks to the shaker is to be eaten with a spoon.
Now, directly into the mouth:
- 2g Creatine Monohydrate, preferably with Creapure inside
- 2 x 100mg phosphatidylserine softgel by "NeoBros 40 capsule - Fidia" another Italian OTC medication. Other brands irritate my intestine too much. This is a liquid form (inside the softgel), see if you can find other liquid / softgel form of phosphatidylserine or you can purchase this Italian OTC medication from the internet. Phosphatidylserine gives more endurance throughout the day: if you don't take this, after having been productive for half a day you will feel very tired.
- 200mg Caffeine. Use a caffeine supplement and not real coffee because that's too variable in the dose. Very important supplement
- 1 x 500mg Taurine by Now Foods. Very important supplement.
Just before lunch, or at least just after lunch:
- 200mg Caffeine. Very important.
Evening:
- In the shaker:
- 4 oz of water (118ml)
- 1 x 6g sugar cube (needed to better absorb the rest)
- [at least 3 days per week] an effervescent multivitamin 100%RDA supplement. I use Supradyn, an Italian OTC medication, but most brands are probably fine. Check out for intestinal irritation.
- 2 x PeakATP with Glycocarn by LEF. This one is of utmost importante.
- 3 drops of Vitamin D liquid. This one I have not double checked that it is really needed for the anti-ADD / energy effect, but it gives significant general health to me and is cheap at 3 drops/day. Note that 3 drops/days is on the high dosage side.
- 3 drops of Sodium Selenite liquid. Not sure it is required; same as for vitamin D.
- [shake for 20-30 seconds]
- 1 x 800mg alpha-lipoic-acid "Tiobec 800 by Laborest" an Italian OTC medication. You can try to find another brand of ALA and it will probably work, but for me all other brands irritate the intestine immensely. This is the only brand which has incapsulated ALA in shellac microspheres which makes it much more tolerable. It's written it uses "Matris(R)" as source of ALA. The 800mg format is also mixed in a gel. This supplement is of utmost importance.
- [shake for 60 seconds]
- 1 x 20g measure of proteins - Enhanced Life Extension Whey Protein - Other brands might work for you but irritate my intestine too much. I can recommend this as it is a good quality protein.
- [shake for 40 seconds]
- 2 x 4gr measure of "Psyllogel fibra barattolo - Nathura" (see notes above), or 2.5 measures if the effervescent multivitamin is also in the mix.
- [Shake again well here, until it's a partially solid gel]
- Drink the content. Last part that sticks to the shaker is to be eaten with a spoon.
- 1g Creatine Monohydrate, preferably with Creapure inside
- 2 x 100mg phosphatidylserine softgel by "NeoBros 40 capsule - Fidia" (see notes above)
- [2-3 times per week]: 1 x Liquid Magnesium by Carlson. Other brands of magnesium irritate my intestine too much.

If you have diarrhea or stipsis, try to introduce probiotics bacteria in the mix together with psyllogel or another fibre supplement you find good. If you can purchase from Italy I can suggest Enterolactis Plus.


I might follow up in the next years if I have updates.
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Best of luck with your ADD / lack of energy
And Thank God for having me find this after 10 years of efforts.

Addman

[addman001]

I apologize for infringing the policy with commercial links (which were removed by admin), I hadn't realized it was forbidden. Problem is that after removing the brand name completely, many dosages are now missing. Please let me specify them:
DMAE-H3, Liquid 1.66 oz from Twinlab has PABA 150mg and DMAE 100mg for each 10 drops.
PeakATP with Glycocarn is by LEF and has, for each capsule, Glycocarn 500mg and PeakATP 100mg
liquid vitamin D is by LEF and has 2000 IU per drop
Sodium Selenite solution liquid is by LEF and has 250mcg every 5 drops
Liquid Magnesium by Carlson has 400mg of magnesium per softgel
Other dosages should already be clear from above
Best regards

[addman001]

ERRATUM

"Sodium selenite" is absolutely required for energy! It stimulates the thyroid.
In my original post I had written that I was not sure if sodium selenite was really needed, well I am sure NOW because I tried to remove it for a few days and energy went down significantly.

[avjgirsijdhtjhs]

nevermind

[addman001]

Hello I am sorry if my posts look like spam, they really are not. Please note that there are at least 6 major supplements brands mentioned in there: what spammer is affiliated with 6 producers?

This is really the result of 10 years of research fighting ADHD on my body and lots of money spent, and I think I have to share this.

However if the admin feels that brands should not be mentioned, please kill the entire thread and I will repost without the brands name.
(but do it soon because in a while I might not be still here looking for the thread, from which I really gain no money)
Let me know.
No doubt this will make harder to find the correct supplements for other ADDers willing to try this.

I know the mix is expensive but, for me, it is definitely worth the price. If you try a subset it should still work to a minor extent. If a subset works but just for a short period (days or a few weeks) usually it means you have depleted some other chemical in your body so you have to find which one (it might be another entry of my list, if you are lucky, or not, as we are not all identical).

[crystal8080]

Where do I sign up? Should I send a blank cheque?

*Bork*Bork*Bork

Seriously, you MAY be just trying to help out from the goodness of your heart, but there is NO WAY I will be able to make that concoction. And I don't want to buy your magic mix. I'm not saying it doesn't work, it may. But its just waaaay too complicated. And it IS kinda funny that you only show up to post about this and nothing else.

[addman001]

Crystal8080, I don't "sell the magic mix" but you can easily find components on the internet.

True this is my first post, I did experimentation practically alone in these 10 years (I did visit about 8 phychiatrists but they knew less than me on the subject). Internet, mainly google and wikipedia, was my source of info, and long time ago alt.drugs.smart newsgroup also was but now is abandoned. It is true that I went looking for a forum only once I felt the experimentation was "complete", well not "complete" but "reasonably working" and without tolerance for at least 1-2 years, and so I had to share it. I had found lots of supplements in the past that did work for a short period of time, but I built tolerance to pratically all of them to a point that I thought I was untreatable. This is the first time that my list is "stable", so I am reporting it.

I understand the mix is complex but you can at least pick a few components and look them up in wikipedia to see if they can reasonably be a fix for your situation. ADHD symptoms can be a lack of various chemicals... in my case "scarce energy" gives most of the adhd symptoms, so this is the fix I have found for that.

Also keep in mind that I have irritable bowel syndrome so the psyllum husk thing is probably not needed for many people. Also phosphatidylserine and magnesium can be probably chosen of any brand if the intestine is OK.

Oh and I forgot in my first post:
- chocolate
gives a great focus to me, but in a few days of taking it I am depleted of some chemicals and situation is worse than ever until various days of break; so I stopped taking it. Others might have more luck with chocolate.

Good luck

[Abesha]

Thank you for sharing the results of your self experimentation. I am grateful and may have taken many years to find some of the things you have included here. Please continue to share your results and I am so happy to hear you have found relief.