"No scientific basis" - Here's the Proof

[Anna3000]

- The neurobiological nature of ADHD.....THE PROOF YOU SAY DOESNT EXIST: was conclusively proven in the 1990 landmark glucose brainscan research study published in the New England Journal of Medicine....

I'm a newbie here.. Thank you for positng this information!!!! Of course people will always argue with things but this is pretty hard to dispute.

[icecreamfiend]

I think a problem we have with getting the majority of the general public to wipe clean all these negative connotations and misguided accusations of it not being a real disorder is that our symptoms look like any one else's. How many people don't feel lazy, forgetful, unmotivated at times? (just to name a few) Even by telling them it's not that simple, and in fact we all live with these conditions day in and day out to some debilitating level, rather than just here and there, it's so hard to get some people to really understand what that means.

It also doesn't help that ADHD has turned into some catchy slogan flung around on the internet, TV shows, and ads as some reason for someone being lazy or not up to what they feel is the "standard" level of performance. I'm happy to see it on shows such as Dr. Oz or...whereever because it does give the condition more exposure, but at the same time, it's also often presented in a way that takes away its severity. It wouldn't surprise me if everyone in that Dr. Oz audience thought they had it after that show.

So hopefully with this evidence and more to come in the future with advancing medicine and our understanding of ADHD, it will finally gain the traction and respect amongst the general public as a serious condition.

Thanks for the post! (haven't read through all of it but I will when I have the chance )

[ADDCoach4u]

It's how you frame ADHD that matters and is important when dealing with the flat earthers who don't believe adhd is real.

Here's some ways to frame / position / explain ADHD to those who believe the stigma and maybe for adhd hating (or has it and in denial and projecting?) trolls like dave123 from a article I did for my website called Does ADD Really Exist? more on the actual article.

"Sample Response to a Person with a General Lack of Knowledge of ADD


If someone simply has a lack of knowledge about ADD, or believes the myths out there, you can give them this blood pressure analogy to explain it.

" We all have blood pressure. If it's in x range it's normal, if it's in y range it's a cause for concern, and if it's in z range you have a medical condition called hypertension and have to be treated for it."

You could use a similar example with blood sugar levels. I.e., occasionally low blood sugar, hypoglycemia and diabetes. You could also use the example of clinical depression. Some people have some of the symptoms of depression on occasion i.e., they may feel sad and depressed for a single day but that does not make them clinically depressed. You need to have a certain number of symptoms over a certain period of time and a certain degree of severity.

Most people have some of the symptoms of ADD on occasion, what makes it ADD is:

How many of the symptoms you have
How severe the symptoms are
The degree that they negatively effect one or more areas of your life
How long they have been a problem in your life.

Sample Response to a Person Who's Strongly Denying ADD Exists

If that doesn't work and you're dealing with someone who is strongly denying that ADD exists and claiming that ADD is a not real condition, thereby stigmatizing those with ADD and preventing other people who may have undiagnosed ADD from seeking treatment, you might consider asking them this question,

"What do you know about ADHD that the following institutions don't?

American Medical Association (AMA)
Canadian Medical Association
Canadian Psychological Association
Canadian Psychiatric Association
Surgeon General of the United States
National Institutes of Health (NIH)
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP)
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry (AACAP)
(See the bottom of this page for more details Real Science Defines AD/HD as Real Disorder).

They all say ADHD exists and is a real condition.

What research have you done that show's that all of the organizations above are wrong?"

[Pupperdillis]

Just last night my Stepmom , Dad , son & my self got into this heated ,yelling scene at a restaurant . NOW after,,, we have (my son & i) known for weeks . My dad trying to be all serious & tells us that my stepmom has ALS.
AKA loui gehrig's disease & has only 5 years . My son & i had no reaction .
(1 note my mother Died on my birthday when i was 17.)
STEPMOM has accused me of being on drugs ,in front of large groups of people where i used to work & where my son works now , MY stepmom has been giving me a hard time 30 years about something was wrong with me + sighing my biweekly check & she knew my mother.
i have tried several 5 dozen times to explain what is wrong with me .
& now she is not going to hear it , She, said i have the disease & gets mad & snotty.
I MIGHT HAVE ADD, & im far from perfect . BUT who in their right mind gets mad & all pissy at THE step grandson, & stepson when they say they are going TO DIE . MY comment to her was i will trade u . I WILL DIE FOR U.
I tried for years to explain my problem. IN 1 ear & out the other .
She is like dont try and self diagnose UR self ,,,,,, sounds like some good advise coming from the QUEEN OF SELF DIAGNOSERS.
She is in for a tough next couple years .
IT HAS BEEN TOUGH MY WHOLE LIFE . i would take her place in a heartbeat . SO help me god , if 1 even exist !

[perfectchronic]

I'm starting to think the problem is deeper than it seems, the layout of the world is incorrect, and we have ADHD for a reason, evolution. How in anyway does modern-day society benefit humanity? What are we fighting? What is the common goal? There are people starving around the world because of this so-called "poverty" that man has created, and will be forever cursed with if things don't change. This is the true message, "Poor people must die, so the wealthy stay in power." and what is the one thing that protects and keep these people in power? Wealth, what is wealth? Wealth, by today's standards is determined by how much you actually own. You don't own anything, name one thing in your home that was not manufactured by a corporation. Wealth should be prolific, not detrimental. The whole system is flawed. The system is feeding on the core of humanity, like cancer, fighting the whole as the enemy. Who's to say ADHD is a disorder? How is it a disorder when it is so common? What is the doctor paid to do? How many people take these meds in the United States? There's always someone saying something is "wrong" with you, but do not see the "wrong" in themselves (notice the quotations). We take these meds to cope with so-called "normal life" but it's so far from natural that realistically, it's a "get-screwed-over-and-you-better-love-it life." I don't mind it because I do what I'm told, I'm fed, and I have a place to live and I don't have the knowledge or comfortable with, not having these things. The world makes and revolves around convenience and working for it, that is the common goal. The mind-set is "If I'm rich I don't have to work" but this is what it actually is translated into a realistic sense "If I'm rich, I don't have to give to anyone but myself and my loved ones, because if I give too much I lose." It's a fish eat fish world, and the ocean is abundant. Live your life the way you think is the right way, you will do some wrong things because you are forced to by default. You choose to see ADHD as a disease or disorder. When really it's just the way you are. I take the meds, because I want to, so I can become someone seen better in status and that is the only way to be taken seriously in this God forsaken world. You are the game and money plays you, not the other way around. This modern world is naturally hell, and you have to work to put a smile on, live life and work for better, it's instinct. We are forced to have ADHD. It's societies fault. The disorder is the society. We are forced to become hungry, sick, ill, and selfish because we are slaves to convenience, the addiction of and to convenience and the wealth made from it, is the root cause of destruction, because it's urged and accepted by the ones blindly following like myself and the ones in power to stay in power. We blindly follow because we are told to be afraid of change, we are genuinely afraid of being inconvenienced. We are the ones that are forced to cope with societies' disorder.

[courier]

the more I try to read the more frustrated I become, frustration causes bad inner feelings.

[mctavish23]

perfectchronic,

When you get a chance, please check out the research article :

"International Consensus 2002."

It's the definitive journal article on the validity of ADHD.

Hope that helps.

tc

mctavish23

(Robert)

[Dizfriz]

Originally Posted by mctavish23

perfectchronic,

When you get a chance, please check out the research article :

"International Consensus 2002."

It's the definitive journal article on the validity of ADHD.

Hope that helps.

tc

mctavish23

(Robert)

And for all that are interested, it can be found here:

http://www.russellbarkley.org/content/Consensus2002.pdf

Dizfriz

[MensanDave]

Funny I was diagnosed with genitic markers and CAT/MRI/PET scans. circa 1989.

The day the earth stood still...for me.

[dvdnvwls]

Originally Posted by MensanDave

Funny I was diagnosed with genitic markers and CAT/MRI/PET scans. circa 1989.

The day the earth stood still...for me.

You weren't diagnosed with ADHD in that way, because the genetic markers were completely unknown in 1989, are still unknown today, and there is no evidence that scans are reliable indicators (nor even which types of scan results are meaningful).

I'm not saying the earth didn't stand still for you that day; I'm saying that's not when you really knew you had ADHD.