Trying to Figure Out if I am in the Right In a Situation (warning-sort of long)

[Drewbacca]

Yeah... it happens. I've had a few run ins with people as extreme as her but I'm not even about to go into it here. Some things are better discussed in person (at least, when that is an option). Thank you for taking the time to share this craziness!

[sarek]

Joker Girl, you may very well be dealing with someone who has a serious personality disorder. You can not expect anything to be the way it is as with most other people.
Her own concept of the world is as valid and 'normal' to her as yours is to you and to us and it is unlikely that she will ever feel anything like shame or regret or guilt for all the things she did.

[Joker_Girl]

It really is crazy. It is like something from a damn movie.

I honestly, in my whole life, have never seen anything even VAGUELY as out to lunch as this whole situation is. If someone would have told me this, i wouldnt have believed anything like this was even possible.

I just want it over and done with. She is in the rest home. She either needs to go into a room with someone else and live the way my dad had to, with no money, or else she needs to go to jail.

If nothing else, i have got past this thing where i think i am the bad one and it is my fault. This is so far out there i can't believe it. And she has bought off most of my family. Her safe is still at my cousins, i think. The only ones on my side is me and my brother.

It truly is like some movie.

[mctavish23]

First, HUGS (which I don't do often, so Deal With It).

Second, U R Doing Everything Right. Period.

Bottom Line -- YOUR dad worked his entire life for HIS $$$.

That same $$$ is meant for flesh and blood FAMILY, NOT some

psychotic, blood sucking, black widow biatch.

This WILL WORK OUT (in your favor).

I'd (personally) buy her the making for some S'mores, because AFTER

PRISON (and her roommate Bubbette Strapon ) it will be plenty

hot enough around the giant camp fire, which is HELL.


u r welcome

[crystal8080]

I'm glad you are taking this better, its kinda hard to feel threatened by someone when your head pops trying to take in all that craziness!!!!

If she is that out to lunch, you will never make her feel the guilt that she should. But you can make it right.

One thing though.............its gonna get crazier! Keep us posted!

Crystal

[Joker_Girl]

My only goal is to make her pay. Even if she is incapable of understanding it or feeling any remorse, because i think psychopaths cannot and that is what she seems to be, as far as i can tell.....I just want to make sure she knows that EVERYONE knows she is a liar and a thief, and that FINALLY, after all these years, she tangled with one smart enough and determined enough to not let her get by with it.

As long as we recoup enough to pay the lawyer, i dont care about anything else. That's likely. I would guess it is pretty likely we will recoup anything that can be found. Her credibility is zero, so just saying, "i spent it all" and having no proof and nothing to show for it is not going to fly. I want to be sure everyone knows what a liar and a thief she is, so no one is conned by her again. I don't really care about money. But i suppose anything we recover above and beyond the legal fees, I will use my half to have my house sided and roofed....other than that, it will be nice to have that cushion to fall back on when we have a vehicle breakdown or the kids need something. I don't need a great deal of money to be happy. I work, and bring in enough money to generally meet my needs. I will be pleased that this will help my brother a lot and will give him more of a cushion to seek a job utilizing his education again. I feel my brother and i will be spending a lot more time together from here on out. Even though we are 8 hours from each other, it is important, as we are the only blood family we have left.

I hope that my dad knows how sorry i am for not knowing what was happening and rescuing him. I also hope he knows how hard i have worked to bring her lies out into the open and seek justice. I hope he is proud and pleased that this is happening.

I think when it is over, I will definitely be able to rest easier and will not be so uptight and crazy and wanting drugs. I tried to drink the other night. LOL. I gave up after one beer. It was warm by then. I'm just awful at being a drunk, but i am a fabulous druggie. I've been very good, but not because i wanted to. Only because im afraid if i am NOT good, i will go downhill very quickly.

We have been making jokes about who will play us in the movie about this, which will be called, "My Dad Married Satan". I am voting Drew Barrymore for me, and Jack Black for my husband. Dakota Fanning can be our daughter. Sandra Bullock is my best friend, and I'm not sure who will play my sister in law, but i think Billy Bob Thornton is a great choice for my brother.

LMAO. It seriously is one of those things if you don't laugh you will cry, and then you will do drugs. So it's best to just laugh, even if it's insane, maniacal laughter.

Maybe.

(((((((hugs))))))))) thanks for all your support. It truly means a lot. I have no one to turn to at home. It stresses my family and friends out so i try to not talk too much about it.

I know my husband DESPISES her, and wants to never see her again.

[mctavish23]

As i said, u r welcome

Now back to the bsbwb (blood sucking black widow biatch for all you

home gamers out there).

Having worked in corrections and a state hospital, as well as with some

genuine sociopaths, to paraphrase the late Ed McMahon, " U R CORRECT

MADAME," they have no conconscience and show no remorse.

However, and this is the SERIOUS PART, they do have HUGE EGO'S, so

"losing" REALLY pisssses them off. THAT'S how to get to them. It doesn't

matter if they don't show it, underneath they're FURIOUS.

And now, back to "Bubbette Strapon" and her home made...

u r welcome (again)

[sarahsweets]

All I have to say is F**K HER.

[Sandy4957]

I couldn't read all these pages, Joker, but I got the gist.

You have to let the lawyer deal with this for a while and take a break, honey. You'll make bad decisions as a client if you don't.

He'll deal with it. Your dad was his friend. He'd known your dad for years. He'll be motivated to go after her with both barrels...

Don't let this eat you alive, honey, because one day, come hell or high water, this fight will be over, and then you won't know what to do with the anger. Because win or lose, the anger will still be there. In all likelihood, she'll never admit her guilt. There will be those who will support her, and you will always feel the anger.

The anger doesn't go away because you win. It goes away because you decide that it has to for yourself.

Now, mind you, I can't always practice what I preach on this stuff. But it is the truth, even if I don't always know how to do it myself...

[salleh]

Sarah, I can't top that for sure ......however, I do want to add my support again .....and Joker Girl .....MacTavish is cracking me up ......I don't think I have ever seen him getting into this kind of discussion, I see him is most of the technical discussions ...but a personal situation like this ....not so much

....So, that alone has gotta tell you that you're being victimized by a really truely sociopath/psychopath ......

...and while it doesn't really help in having to deal with her, at the very least, you KNOW you're not the crazy one in the situation ......but she is doing her flat out best to DRIVE you crazy ......so glad to hear you're withstanding her efforts ......


.....And please remember, your attorney is there for YOU ....he is working for you and the phone calls or visits to his office are important for your case ...the more information he has, the better he can represent you in court .....I know you don't "want to be a bother" ......but it IS your job to make sure he has everything he needs to do his job compentently ....and don't forget his ego either ....lawyers LIKE to win in court .......and you guys are a team ...( and of course your brother too )


....So, if something new comes up ......make sure he knows about it ......and I would bet good money that the woman is pi**ing him off too ! ......she is surely pi**ing us off and we're only seeing the story second hand , he's right in the middle of it .....


....and please don't let that earlier poster get under your skin ....she is WAAAAAAAAAAY off base ....I seriously doubt she read all the posts in this thread .....NO ONE could possibly think that you didn't try your hardest for your father ......it's not like you were dealing with a normal person ( meaning wife) all that time ....you were dealing with a sociopath .....she was ALWAYS a sociopath .....she didn't just turn into one after your Dad died .....

......Which is why your guilt feelings, while understandable, we like to think we are invincible, so you think " I should have been able to do something" .....well actually sweetie, no, you couldn't have !.......you really should not have guilt feelings....and this is the important part ...............there was nothing you could have done for him ......that you tried, speaks volumes for your love, for your caring and for your character, and speaks volumes about hers too........and your dad was being a dad in trying to keep you out of it .....he was trying to protect you ......he knew that she was crazy .....and didn't want her to hurt you .....even unto his death .......


.....Your dad loved you and your brother dearly .,......never forget that .....


....I am amazed and in awe of your handling of this horrific situation ......you're doing fine ......you're doing great ......


.....and while there is more horriblness to deal with ....cause you know that there will be more things she did uncovered ......you are hopefully nearing the end ....


......Keep us up to date.....and take care of yourself .......srsly .......you have a lot of friends here who are sending good thoughts and energy to you ....and we'll listen whenever you fell the urge to "talk" .....K?

Oh and I just saw Sandy's note, she and I were writing at the same time, and once again ....she speaks words of wisdom ......

[mctavish23]

Yo sarah,

In response to your "bang the biatch" paraphrase, may I please direct you to

my referencing her soon to be BFF, the adorable "Bubbette Strapon."

I'm relatively certain she'll take your advice to heart.


u r welcome

[Abi]

Originally Posted by sarahsweets

All I have to say is F**K HER.

I think Bubbette Strapon is gonna have that one covered...

[Abi]

Oops, mcT beat me to it.

[Spacemaster]

you know, during the course of reading all this, a Metallica song just popped in my head, and here's a quote:

"You lie so much you believe yourself, judge not lest ye be judged yourself! Holier than thou!" and "burn your bridges, build them back with wealth, judge not lest ye be judged yourself"

I felt, that these phrases, uh, fit this woman to a T.

This all WILL be over soon, but in the meantime, keep a stiff upper lip. Above all, don't blame yourself for something you had no control over. Everyone here knows you are not a f***up, and it is obvious that you are a person with a good heart.

[sarek]

Yes, Joker Girl, this can not be said enough. You are a wonderful and amazing person and it is YOU who is fighting on the side of good in this fight. Do not ever doubt yourself.