DSM-5 : Predominantly Inattentive vs. Inattentive (Restrictive)

[known_guy]

DSM-5 Criteria

Thoughts?

For example, would you equate the Restrictive "presentation" to the popularly proposed SCT subtype? If not, should SCT be thought of as a different disorder entirely? Hypothetically speaking, what would that even mean, really?


As for me, I remain Predominantly Inattentive.

And... I am happy to see the proposed removal of the PDD exclusion criteria. Cheers to those of us with both ASD (or a PDD) and ADHD.

[Fortune]

ASD is a PDD.

I'm glad the exclusion was removed. Current research simply doesn't support it.

[known_guy]

Ah, yes that's what I meant. ^_^v
Should have made it clear that the parentheses were for sake of all-inclusion (?) for those who classify the group of disorders as ASDs and for those who classify them as PDDs.

[Caleb666]

Yes, the "Inattentive (Restrictive)" presentation was added in order to encourage more research into SCT.

If Barkley's theory of ADHD wins, then both Inattentive presentation (restrictive and non restrictive) would turn out to be SCT (or some other inattention disorder).
According to Barkley, people who are ADHD start out with very visible hyperactivity as children, which slowly fades as they grow into their teens, so if I were to use DSM language, they morph from ADHD/HI to ADHD/C and stay that way for life. If you've never had hyperactivity problems as a kid, then it's not ADHD (according to Barkley).

[ana futura]

Originally Posted by Caleb666

Yes, the "Inattentive (Restrictive)" presentation was added in order to encourage more research into SCT.

If Barkley's theory of ADHD wins, then both Inattentive presentation (restrictive and non restrictive) would turn out to be SCT (or some other inattention disorder).
According to Barkley, people who are ADHD start out with very visible hyperactivity as children, which slowly fades as they grow into their teens, so if I were to use DSM language, they morph from ADHD/HI to ADHD/C and stay that way for life. If you've never had hyperactivity problems as a kid, then it's not ADHD (according to Barkley).

Not really. A large majority of people who are currently diagnosed ADHD PI (the "non-restrictive" group) will become ADHD C/ plain old ADHD. A small minority will no longer have ADHD and have SCT instead.

Hyperactivity does not have to mean bouncing off the walls. No one would have called me "hyperactive" as a child. Did I frequently interrupt people when talking? You bet!

[ana futura]

Originally Posted by known_guy

Thoughts?

I'm extremely pleased with the changes made in the new DSM. And yes, assuming SCT actually exists, it should be thought of as a separate disorder.

Instead of focusing on the differences of the sub types, we should be looking at the similarities. Often times people who are PI are a lot more like ADHD C than they realize. If you truly aren't the slightest bit impulsive, then you don't have ADHD. A lot of the time people with a PI diagnosis are actually very impulsive, but don't know how to look for the behavior. The new DSM should make this easier.

[Fortune]

Originally Posted by ana futura

I'm extremely pleased with the changes made in the new DSM. And yes, assuming SCT actually exists, it should be thought of as a separate disorder.

Instead of focusing on the differences of the sub types, we should be looking at the similarities. Often times people who are PI are a lot more like ADHD C than they realize. If you truly aren't the slightest bit impulsive, then you don't have ADHD. A lot of the time people with a PI diagnosis are actually very impulsive, but don't know how to look for the behavior. The new DSM should make this easier.

Somewhere in this subforum there's a thread about "inattentive impulsiveness."

[Verile]

w00t! IPR, baby.