Any Aussies on this forum??? SR dex help needed!

[reggi]

Howdy!

I wont go into it all now but am looking to talk with fellow Aussies re dex as we dont have slow release dex available here unless you get it compounded by a pharmacist (which is what i do)... as i got sick of having to dose up all the time on the IR and i felt like a serious tweeker.

I am looking to talk with others who do the same and their experiences with the SR.

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, ??, ??, ??

I will go into further details if and when I get any responses from others who get their dexies compounded to a slow release formula.

Hope to hear from you soon ))

[tudorose]

Originally Posted by reggi

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, ??, ??, ??

Oi, Oi, Oi. Hello! I see you're a banana bender. I'm a sandgroper

Welcome to the forum.

I've never personally tried the grind up and stick in a capsule thing but I've heard from others that it gets their kids through a whole school day.

[reggi]

Originally Posted by tudorose

Oi, Oi, Oi. Hello! I see you're a banana bender. I'm a sandgroper

Welcome to the forum.

I've never personally tried the grind up and stick in a capsule thing but I've heard from others that it gets their kids through a whole school day.

Hey Hey!

thanks for your reply
good to see some aussies cruisin around here!
so....do you dex for your add medication regime? im finding the SR unreliable and just plain random...whats your experience re meds?

cheers!

[tudorose]

Originally Posted by reggi

Hey Hey!

thanks for your reply
good to see some aussies cruisin around here!
so....do you dex for your add medication regime? im finding the SR unreliable and just plain random...whats your experience re meds?

cheers!

I've been on dex for 12 years. I space it out through the day. On work days I take 25mg. Non work days it's about 10 - 15. It's a necessary evil. One day I hope to create a life for myself where I can not have to take it at all.

There are quite a few Aussies here

[reggi]

Originally Posted by tudorose

I've been on dex for 12 years. I space it out through the day. On work days I take 25mg. Non work days it's about 10 - 15. It's a necessary evil. One day I hope to create a life for myself where I can not have to take it at all.

There are quite a few Aussies here

Cheers for your reply! have you ever considered taking the SR mix up jobbie? To be honest, i am not sure if my ADD diagnosis (is the newest) is correct at all so thats why i am struggling trying to work out the medication stuff and analysing the hell outta it! I am starting to see that some days it works great and i feel it but other days i dont feel a thing..some days i can sleep after taking it, others i cant at all! There does not seem to be any kind of pattern i can rely on.... Sometimes i wonder if it depends on when and what ive eaten and what mood im in...

grrrrrrr!

[tudorose]

Originally Posted by reggi

To be honest, i am not sure if my ADD diagnosis (is the newest) is correct at all so thats why i am struggling trying to work out the medication stuff and analysing the hell outta it! I am starting to see that some days it works great and i feel it but other days i dont feel a thing..some days i can sleep after taking it, others i cant at all! There does not seem to be any kind of pattern i can rely on.... Sometimes i wonder if it depends on when and what ive eaten and what mood im in...

grrrrrrr!

If this is how you're feeling you'll get much better responses to help you figure in out in the General ADD talk section than here in the meds section. I only read your post coz it had Aussie in the title . Even the women's section or the diagnosis and treatment section should result in some better advice.. And you'll meet some pretty cool people lurking there too

[Dorito5]

Yeah i'm from Australia (Perth) & im on the same thing. I was given the "option" by my regualar psych to take a maximum of 8x5mg tablets in a day, but when i changed to a new psych he suggested/coerced me onto the 30mg Long Acting capules made up by a compounding pharmacy.

What was the winning point for me was that id get 3months supply at a time, & they'd POST THEM TO ME. It seemed brilliant, & it is. As well as i wouldn't be dropping pills throughout the day (although id gotten very good at dry swallowing the 5mg tablets on the sly during class ).

I find that the points above are the main advantages to the 30mg caps, but i find that there are some pretty annoying disadvantages.

Pros:
-Not eating handfuls of pills throughout the day
-Getting them via post with a 3 month supply
-

Cons:
-Because its SR/LA once you take one your committed to 10~hrs of dex making it VERY hard to sleep & eat (you do get used to eating on it tho)

-If your only after a 3-5hr dose, such as on weekends etc, you have to open up a capsule & divide it into 3 piles of powder (3x10mg doses) & put them in capsules or rolly papers*

*(Those of you that think that this is abuse, rethink your logic, taking more than what you need=abuse, & wrapping it in rolley papers is for convenience as scooping it into capsules is quite arduous, there's no difference in the release rate when the LA/SR powder is wrapped in thin paper or if its in the capsule it came in, its the powder that clumps together & expands when it absorbs moisture, the capsule just holds the powder together for you to swallow it, it has no effect on the release rate IME).

-If you dont take food with the 30mg cap, it can make you feel reaaaally nauseous , the powder expands and touches the walls of your stomach & it can trigger you to throw up... I've had a few return to sender issues when i have taken my meds as I've woken up but been to slow to make my toast. Now i have a box of museli bars next to my bed with my bottle of caps, so upon waking up from my alarm i eat half a mueseli bar, take the cap, then eat the other half of the museli bar so that theres a bit of food between the SR dex clump & the stomach lining.

-Depending on what you've eaten, affects how effective the dex is. I.E, i take one cap with a small breakfast, am still hungry, swing by subway on the way to uni and smash down a foot-long sandwich with a masters iced coffee & it'll take 2-3 hours before i even start to feel the caps effects, so i'm hazy & inattentive at uni for that time. In addition to that i feel as if it doesn't last as long as its supposed to. As you said Reggi, they aren't fully reliable.

Cons>Pros of Long Acting/ Slow Release 30mg D-Amp capsules.

I'm going to go back on the IR tablets as i had far less problems with them & they gave me more freedom, even though id have to pay more money for them & go to a pharmacy to get them... Sigh.
/rant over

[reggi]

Originally Posted by Dorito5

Yeah i'm from Australia (Perth) & im on the same thing. I was given the "option" by my regualar psych to take a maximum of 8x5mg tablets in a day, but when i changed to a new psych he suggested/coerced me onto the 30mg Long Acting capules made up by a compounding pharmacy.

What was the winning point for me was that id get 3months supply at a time, & they'd POST THEM TO ME. It seemed brilliant, & it is. As well as i wouldn't be dropping pills throughout the day (although id gotten very good at dry swallowing the 5mg tablets on the sly during class ).

I find that the points above are the main advantages to the 30mg caps, but i find that there are some pretty annoying disadvantages.

Pros:
-Not eating handfuls of pills throughout the day
-Getting them via post with a 3 month supply
-

Cons:
-Because its SR/LA once you take one your committed to 10~hrs of dex making it VERY hard to sleep & eat (you do get used to eating on it tho)

-If your only after a 3-5hr dose, such as on weekends etc, you have to open up a capsule & divide it into 3 piles of powder (3x10mg doses) & put them in capsules or rolly papers*

*(Those of you that think that this is abuse, rethink your logic, taking more than what you need=abuse, & wrapping it in rolley papers is for convenience as scooping it into capsules is quite arduous, there's no difference in the release rate when the LA/SR powder is wrapped in thin paper or if its in the capsule it came in, its the powder that clumps together & expands when it absorbs moisture, the capsule just holds the powder together for you to swallow it, it has no effect on the release rate IME).

-If you dont take food with the 30mg cap, it can make you feel reaaaally nauseous , the powder expands and touches the walls of your stomach & it can trigger you to throw up... I've had a few return to sender issues when i have taken my meds as I've woken up but been to slow to make my toast. Now i have a box of museli bars next to my bed with my bottle of caps, so upon waking up from my alarm i eat half a mueseli bar, take the cap, then eat the other half of the museli bar so that theres a bit of food between the SR dex clump & the stomach lining.

-Depending on what you've eaten, affects how effective the dex is. I.E, i take one cap with a small breakfast, am still hungry, swing by subway on the way to uni and smash down a foot-long sandwich with a masters iced coffee & it'll take 2-3 hours before i even start to feel the caps effects, so i'm hazy & inattentive at uni for that time. In addition to that i feel as if it doesn't last as long as its supposed to. As you said Reggi, they aren't fully reliable.

Cons>Pros of Long Acting/ Slow Release 30mg D-Amp capsules.

I'm going to go back on the IR tablets as i had far less problems with them & they gave me more freedom, even though id have to pay more money for them & go to a pharmacy to get them... Sigh.
/rant over

WOW! thanks so much for that info - that is exactly what i am looking for!!!!

Its so hard to get that feedback as most are on the IR cos its cheap and some may not ask for alternative options.

The reason I wanted off the IR is that i hate popping pills all day and keeping an eye on the time etc and i felt they were rough in terms of feeling the ups and downs. The up was much more obvious and i grew to chase the high i got and would pop another prior to the come-down as I didnt want to feel it at all! The other thing is that the IR's made me wanna drink booze and smoke a zillion ciggies! I also felt wired and at times thought others might notice which is not cool cos i am a social worker working in the mental health field.

I also have a drug addiction past and could feel myself chasing that eurphoria from the IR's. Therefore, i asked the doc for alternatives.

So re the SR's - i never know what im going to get! My doc only gives me 10 mgs caps but I told him that im needing at least 2 a day cos they wear off or just dont seem to work and if ive had them a few days in a row its like...meh!!! If i have a couple of days off then I feel the effects but the whole thing just seems stupid to me. During the working week dex then weekend no dex and tired, lethargic, unmotivated, appetite out of control - what kind of life is that????

So i hit the doc up for a batch of IR's and SR's for the days I dont wanna have it in my system so long and for the times i want that obvious boost but he made me choose either or - so I went for SR's to avoid developing a drug habit and im not really keen on becoming a daily boozer either.

He prescribed 20mg caps but the pharmacy where i get them mashed up said they cant fit 20 mgs in a cap and can only do 10mg caps...????

Anyhooooo.....the last few days ive been taking one in the morning then dropping another in the arvo after lunch and still can go home after work and have a nap then go to bed again about 11pm and sleep through the night. I feel they only work about 4 hours max.

Not sure what to do really....its hard cos you get into a habit of relying on them to do stuff and when u dont have them you feel like a big blob and reach for the bottle. I dont know if they are beneficial in the big picture.

Do you mind if we talk about this a little more? As i said its hard to find someone with experience with the SR's.....

Also, anyone else is welcome to chime in at any time!!!

Cheers!!!

[kinglizard]

Interesting .. didn't realize you could get a SR compounded (I'm in Melbourne).

Anyway, I'm exceedingly sensitive to Dex IR .. and react really weirdly, i.e. sometimes felt sleepy and stuporous, at other times was just wired. I could only handle tiny doses like 2.5mg at a time.

Like you reggi, I struggled a little with self-control and would sometimes find myself chasing the euphoria. In the end, I went off, and am not on any stims at the moment because the long-acting alternatives -- Ritalin LA or Strattera -- make me too anxious.

I always wondered if I'd do better on a SR since I might get a smoother, more consistent effect, rather than being hit by it all at once as with the IR. I should talk to my psych about this ...

sorry I can't offer any other input.

[Jack1403]

Hey guys another fellow west aussie dune rat here. Im on my first lot of ER 10mg caps and still working things out but on a whole they dont last the 10-12 hours like i was told and have a pretty full on affect. not as focused as i anticipated and definately still off with the fairies for the most part.

i had:
1x10mg cap on day 1
2x10mg caps on day 2 (today)

And will go for 3 tomorow as advised
Though if no positive affects within the next week im definately going back to the drawing board meds wise as my psych said its a matter of trial and error.kind of like baskin robbins, you dont always get the right flav our for you straight off the bat.

I will be posting updates daily on my own thread in this section so wish me luck and i hope you guys have the same success if you havnt already.

Cheers

[Anti-Hero]

hey reggi are you in sydneu?

[josh_delong]

Sydney here! 23 Male. Was on Dex IR from October 2011 till now, however I am having to stop them as they are making my hair fall out at a pretty alarming rate. I wish I didn't have to, Dex's worked almost perfectly for me. Any side effects I had dissipated within 2 weeks of use (cold extremities, lack of appetite, 'comedown' effect once the IR's wore off).

Went to my doctor who gave me a whole bunch of test packs of Strattera to try out. Had my first one today, gave me 2 hours of feeling relaxed and calm, and then turned into 5 hours of absolute lethargy, not to mention the weird sexual/urinary side effects which were pretty horrible. Apparently I have to stay on them for a couple of weeks before I know if the medication is going to work for me.

Didn't even realise you could get SR's over here. Might try them out if the Strattera doesn't work, and hopefully my hair won't fall out again.

Really sucks, wish I could stick with my 5mg+5mg a day of Dex, but I would rather not be going bald at 23!