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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

http://ocfoundation.org/default.aspx?id=3043
Do go through this link folks. It might not be ADHD/ADD especially if you are not a "impulsive/hyperactive one" (Inattentive ADD) & have the "ability to perform accurate and repetitive rituals ". Well, I Wouldn't call it as "OCD", Becuase then you wouldnt find many of the OCD symptoms as well. But the root cause for these ADD / OCD symptoms could be the anxiety caused by "Obsessive thoughts".

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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Microcephaly which apparently I was diagnosed with because I had weird facial expression and a wrinkled forehead for thinking a lot about my problems which the doctor denies she puts on my record but, more than one neurologist said I am fine and my brain is normal. Its just I was small when I was born which no doctor knows why though.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

I personally feel ADD is a condition in and of itself but yes, other factors can worsen it. Like for example....I got like 3 hours of sleep last night and I can't focus to save my life right now.

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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

I would add hypogonadism for males: the lack of testosterone in bloodstream. Testosterone and dopamine are directly related. I have just been diagnosed as suffering hypogonadism. And I have very similar symptoms as in ADHD and I have been also diagnosed with ADD (ADHD-I). Just out of curiosity, I wonder if there can be some more fundamental in here between the root reason of ADHD?
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

I have to agree about the iron. I don't know how in the world being iron-deficient or anemic can make that a thing. I used to be anemic and it didn't affect me in an ADHD like manner at all. I just felt sluggish and lethargic. Of course there are many things that can cause sluggishness and lethargy, but I won't go into that b/c that would be a whole dissertation.

But other things that make me feel sluggish and lethargic: sunlight, full-spectrum light (which mimics sunlight), vitamin D deficiency. I take vitamin D on a regular basis b/c I'm not a morning person and just hate being in the sun too much or too long.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

1.(!1.) Hypoglycemia (Low Blood sugar) Low blood sugar can stem from thyroid disorders, liver or pancreatic problems, or adrenal gland abnormalities, or even an insufficient diet. Hypoglycemia can display the same ADHD like symptoms.

I have mild hypoglycemia from time to time due to my hormonal disorders. But I would say the symptoms are bit different and feel different.

2.(! 2.)Allergies: 15 to 20 percent of the world has some type of allergy. A person can be allergic to nearly anything so check for all forms. Food is one of the primary causes of allergic reactions. Just like the Car and human analogy stated above. If a child eats food they are allergic to, the body will not run properly and that may affect behavior. Everyone has different sensitivities to allergens so just because you aren't affected does not mean your child won't be also. (Some examples, Allergic reactions to food dye, milk, chocolate, and grains, ect.)

I do have some kind of allergy, just never done any tests.

3.(!3.) Learning disabilities: If the primary place of behavior problems is at school, learning disabilities may be the cause of ill behavior. One of the main things that affect a child's self-esteem is how well they do in school. If a child has an undiagnosed learning disorder that makes school much harder and sometimes impossible. Children with undiagnosed learning disabilities are labeled as lazy, stupid, and many other downgrading opinions that affect self-esteem. And many times when a child's self-esteem is at jeopardy they try to make up for it in other sometimes-nonproductive ways such as acting out, bullying, or becoming the class clown.

Do have it.

4.(!4.)Hyper or hypothyroidism:An imbalance in metabolism that occurs from an overproduction or underproduction of thyroid hormones. This imbalance may cause a variety of behaviors and may affect all body functions.

I suffer from hypothyroidism with occassional hyperthyroidism when it take a dose of meds that's too high.
There is also an issue with my adrenal glands and or pituitary gland.

39.(***14.)Emotional problems: Kids who are experiencing emotional problems most often display ADHD like symptoms. For example, kids who are constantly subjected to bullying at school can display ADHD like symptoms. These are normal kids that act out because they are scared. They experience sleeping problems, sadness, and they develop physical symptoms, especially if they think those symptoms will keep them home from school. Often they can't concentrate in class, partly because they are worried and partly because they are suffering from sleep deprivation. Really any emotional problem at school or home in which a child is having trouble coping with can result in ADHD like symptoms.

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42.(***17.) Lack of understanding and communication skills: One of the main reasons why a child acts out and throws temper tantrums when they have a problem is because of their lack of understanding of a problem and lack of expressing how they feel. Children do not have the vocabulary or know how to express their emotions like adults do, that's why many act out when they are in a difficult situation. They are not able tell you something is wrong so they show you instead. This is one reason why any emotional or medical problem can cause acting out behavior in children.

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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

I'd like to add something specific to the metabolic disorders category... PKU and its variants (more importantly).

I was sick back in February and didn't have much to eat for three days...on the fourth day I felt like a million bucks. I had a similar occurrence of "clarity" , but not exactly the same , when I tried juicing for a week. Tried juicing again a second time and the results weren't the same.

I was injured at work back in march and have spent most of my free time since February trying to decipher my symptoms and ailments. I've tested a lot of theories only to be let down time and time again. I'm grateful, in a way, for that injury because it has allowed me a lot of time to try and connect the dots.

One disorder I found to share many of the symptoms of ADHD was an inborn error of metabolism. I specifically narrowed my reading to that because that was the one solid connection I had to my moments of clarity. food seems to play a role, and after seeing an allergist and GI doctor who said they couldn't help I narrowed it down to metabolism. There are so many things that can go wrong to either speed up or slow down (positive (sometimes) and negative effects) metabolic processes in the body.

PKU variants fit the bill to the T! It's not something I'm sure of, I see an endocrinologist on dec 5th.

PKU is a disorder involving the metabolism of phenylalanine, an essential Amino acid found in practically everything. People with the classic disease have very high levels of phenylalanine in their blood. High levels of phenylalanine are neurotoxic and cause irreversible brain damage. Most people with classic PKU have significant irreversible intellectual disabilities.

People with variant forms of the disease have varying levels of PAH deficiencies. Most of the symptoms are very similar to ADHD.

I think this can help explain why many come here and say they've cured their ADHD with diet changes. It also helps to explain why many suffer with fatigue and can't find a medicine that works.

Even if I end up having some form of PAH deficiency I'll probably still have "ADHD" due to any brain damage I've already suffered ( I've always been a lover of meat).

PKU is rare and the variants are probably less rare but rare nonetheless. The diet one must follow with a PAH deficiency is drastic, the most drastic I've encountered to date, but if I can feel and think like a million bucks everyday I'm all for it!!

Two great links on PAH/PKU

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...tid795150title

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/N...#_pku_Summary_
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

P.s. newborn screenings pick up many of the worst illnesses one can be born with but fail to account for variants. one might not get flagged for a variant because it hadn't been discovered at the time of the test or the disease was only thought to affect those who met a certain threshold, not something understood to affect a person incrementally based on the number they were looking at. Technology has improved and so has genetic testing. The number of genetic variations with the genes involved in phenylalanine metabolism alone is huge.

Btw, I was born in The Dominican Republic so I'm not even sure wether they did newborn screenings over there 36 years ago...self pay, on the spot medical care in a third world country, my mom was poor with an eighth grade education and I was an apparently healthy and exceedingly handsome baby boy.

Most blood tests will miss this because they're specifically looking at phenylalanine levels. An amino acid panel has to be ordered, I think it has to be specific to phenylalanine. Most doctors won't even know about it because they only discussed it in med school (classical PKU) and probably aren't caught up on variants.

This is something to look into If you're foggy all the time, tired and a vegetarian or vegan diet seemed to help in the past. I specifically noticed my meds worked better when fasting and didn't seem to work at all otherwise.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

@barbyma. Thank you for pointing out all these "other" possibilities to the OP. This list reads as a anti-psych propaganda in an odd way. Most of these conditions can be easily eliminated due to it being environmental. ADHD has been very clear on it's Dx and who does and does NOT have it. If anybody where I'm living at had chronic exposure to lead, we would have the EPA running around like crazy treating everyone like they have been exposed to radiation. Most of the conditions I read are somewhat temporal. Yeah I'm thankful for some of the info but just questioning the OP's motive for this post.
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Re: 50 conditions that mimic ADHD, PART I

Another condition to consider adding to the list: Post Traumatic Stress Disorder brought about by chronic childhood abuse and complex trauma. (Here's my thread on this in the adult diagnosis section of the forum: http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188764 )

There's a lot of symptom overlap that's worth noting.
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Autistic Spectrum Disorders such as Aspergers and HFA. Thats a big one! Though often comorbid with ADHD and carrying similar symptoms... With the way that the ritalin inhibits verbal expression and shuts kids up at high enough doses, Not so sure how that goes down when it comes to the already impacted social development of kids with Autistic spectrum disorders. But I have a feeling it might be bad. I dont mean to be so blunt, but its important.
Meh, I am ASD (formerly known as aspergers or HFA, which are now all under the autism spectrum level 1 diagnosis) and ADD and like many other people on the autism spectrum, I find that my stimulant medication helps me a lot with aspects of autism. It helps me socially and helps me with verbal communication. Everyone on the autism spectrum is different, so meds affect us all differently, which is why it's considered a spectrum "disorder". Some people with high functioning autism (this is actually an offensive term to use tbh, but I've had trouble finding another word) can actually be very talkative and verbally expressive, especially boys/men it seems. Autism can affect verbal speech in different ways, and not everyone on the spectrum has obvious difficulty with verbal communication.

It's true that ASD and ADD are often co-occurring diagnoses, and there is some symptom overlap. I was diagnosed ADD way before I was diagnosed ASD - unfortunately this is very common in girls. Boys tend to receive an ASD diagnosis by age 8 whereas women tend not to be diagnosed until adulthood. I think there is especially overlap in certain areas of sensory processing with ADD. Not in the way and to the level that autistics experience obviously but I do think there are common roots.

Overall though, there are definitely key indicators that are present in ASD and not ADHD, or at least key indicators that all present in a cluster. Someone with ADD might present similar symptoms to ASD, and maybe they'll struggle with social rules etc but if you have someone who has the overlapping symptoms ADD and ASD share but also has a cluster of ASD specific symptoms like moderate verbal issues (non-verbal or late talking), lack of eye contact, repetitive behaviours, narrow obsessive interests, sensory integration issues, stimming etc than that's likely to be something more than ADD alone.

Also, from what I've read of ADD and seen of it in others, even though some people with ADD may have a desire for rigid routine and even respond well when they're forced into it, they struggle to keep a rigid routine going whereas rigid routines are typical in ASD.

I do agree though that with really HFA, where a lot of the key indicators of ASD are either less present or less apparent (or hidden and masked, which is common the older they get) I definitely think that there is a lot of autism being misdiagnosed as ADD and other diagnoses, particularly in girls.

Some of these other things I've seen suggested in this thread are things that tend to begin later on in later. ADD is a neurodevelopmental condition, therefore it has to begin in early childhood. So, if one does not experience symptoms of ADD until they're older, it's likely not ADD. Could be trauma, mental health, etc etc but if it didn't begin in early childhood, it's not ADD. I think that's important to remember.
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Everyone who was diagnosed with Asperger's does not fit under "autism spectrum disorder level 1". Part of the problem with the existence of AS as a diagnosis was the assumption that it meant mild symptoms. This is not always the case.
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!1.)Hypoglycemia (Low Blood sugar)Low blood sugar can stem from thyroid disorders, liver or pancreatic problems, or adrenal gland abnormalities, or even an insufficient diet. Hypoglycemia can display the same ADHD like sypmtoms.
2.(! 2.)Allergies: 15 to 20 percent of the world has some type of allergy. A person can be allergic to nearly anything so check for all forms. Food is one of the primary causes of allergic reactions. Just like the Car and human analogy stated above. If a child eats food they are allergic to, the body will not run properly and that may affect behavior. Everyone has different sensitivities to allergens so just because you aren't affected does not mean your child won't be also.

3.(!3.)Learning disabilities: If the primary place of behavior problems is at school, learning disabilities may be the cause of ill behavior. One of the main things that affect a child's self-esteem is how well they do in school. If a child has an undiagnosed learning disorder that makes school much harder and sometimes impossible. Children with undiagnosed learning disabilities are labeled as lazy, stupid, and many other downgrading opinions that affect self-esteem.

4.(!4.)Hyper or hypothyroidism:An imbalance in metabolism that occurs from an overproduction or underproduction of thyroid hormones. This imbalance may cause a variety of behaviors and may affect all body functions.

5.(! 5.) Hearing and vision problems: If a child can't see or hear properly, school and daily things in life are nearly impossible and it may cause ADHD like symptoms especially in educational settings.

6.(!6.)Mild to high lead levels, even in the absence of clinical lead poisoning: research shows that children with even mildly elevated lead levels suffer from reduced IQs, attention deficits, and poor school performance. Lead is the leading culprit in toxin-caused hyperactivity..

7.(*1.)Spinal Problems: Some spinal problems can cause ADHD like symptoms because if the spine is not connected to the brain properly nerves from the spinal cord can give the brain all of signals at once making a child rambunctious and always on the go.

8.(*2.) Toxin exposures: Children are more vulnerable to toxins than adults. Such as pesticide-poisoning (Eating vegetables and fruit not washed thoroughly, they can be exposed to them by playing outside on the ground), also by gasoline fumes, and herbicides. Inside there are also many toxins. Disinfectants, furniture polishes and air fresheners are toxins that can affect some children's behaviors. Beds and carpets are one of the most dangerous places in the house because they are full of different types of dust, and other toxins. Toxins can cause hyperactivity, attention deficits, irritability, and learning problems.

9.(*3.)Carbon Monoxide poisoning: Thousands of children each year are exposed to toxic levels of this gas each year. Sources include gas heaters, and other gas appliances such as fireplaces, dryers, and water heaters.

10.(*4.)Seizure disorders: The most overlooked is the absence Seizures. During an absence seizure, the brain's normal activity shuts down. The child stares blankly, sometimes rotates his eyes upward, and occasionally blinks or jerks repetitively, he drops objects from his hand, and there may be some mild involuntary movements known as automatisms. The attack lasts for a few seconds and then it is over as rapidly as it begins. If these attacks occur dozens of times each day, they can interfere with a child's school performance and be confused by parents and teachers with daydreaming.

11.(*5.)Metabolic disorders: They reduce the brain's supply of glucose, the bodies fuel and can cause ADHD like symptoms.

12. (*6.)Genetic defects: Some mild forms of genetic disorders can go unnoticed in children and display some of the same symptoms of ADHD. Mild forms of Turner's syndrome, sickle-cell anemia, and Fragile X syndrome are some examples. Almost any genetic disorder can cause hyperactivity or other behavior problems, even if the disorder isn't normally linked to such problems. Many genetic diseases disrupt brain functions directly, through a variety of paths.
13.(*7.) Sleeping disorders or other problems causing fatigue and crankiness during the day.

14.(*8.)Post-traumatic subclinical seizure disorder: It causes episodic temper explosions. These fits of temper come out of the blue for no reason. Some of these seizures can be too subtle to detect without a twenty-four-hour electroencephalogram (EEG).
15.(*9.)High mercury levels:One of the most interesting things regarding high mercury levels is that it can relate to dental fillings. Children who have mercury amalgam fillings in their mouth and grind their teeth are at risk of high mercury levels. American dental associations are defensive on the subject of mercury fillings but many European countries have discontinued the use of them because of side effects.

16.(*10.)High manganese levels

17.(*11.)Iron deficiency:Iron is an essential component of hemoglobin, the oxygen carrying pigment in the blood. Iron is normally obtained through the food in the diet and by the recycling of iron from old red blood cells. The causes of iron deficiency are too little iron in the diet, poor absorption of iron by the body, and loss of blood. It is also caused by lead poisoning in children.

18.(*12.) B vitamin deficiencies:Many experts believe that one of the main causes for inattention, hyperactivity, impulsivity, temper tantrums, sleep disorders, forgetfulness, and aggression are caused by faulty neurotransmissions a problem with the neurotransmitters in the brain. Vitamin B-6 is a necessary vitamin used in the making of neurotransmitters that affect behavior.


19.(*13.)Excessive amounts of Vitamins: Excessive amounts of vitamins can be toxic to the body and may cause the same ADHD like symptoms. It is possible to overdose when taking vitamins so make sure you contact a physician and check for vitamin deficiencies before taking extra vitamins.

20.(*14.)Tourette's syndrome: Tourette's syndrome is a rare but disruptive condition. It involves multiple tics (small, repetitive muscle movements), usually facial tics with grimacing and blinking. Tics may also occur in the shoulders and arms. This is usually accompanied by loud vocalizations, which may include grunts or noises, or uncontrollable (compulsive) use of obscenities or short phrases. The tics are worse during emotional stress and are absent during sleep. The cause is unknown. It occurs most often in boys, and may begin around age 7 or 8 or not until the child is in his or her late teens or early twenties. It may, at times, run in families. This disorder can be mistaken for not being able to sit still or impulsive behavior.

21.(*15.)Sensory Integration Dysfunction: Sensory Integration Dysfunction is the inefficient neurological processing of information received through the senses, causing problems with learning, development, and behavior. These children are over-sensitive or under-sensitive dealing in touch, taste, smell, sound, or sight. For example, some of these children crave fast and spinning movement, such as swinging, rocking, twirling, and riding the merry-go-round- without getting dizzy. These children may move constantly, fidget, enjoy getting into upside down positions and be a daredevil. These children may become overexcited when there is too much to look at words, toys, or other children. They may cover their eyes, have poor eye contact, be inattentive when drawing or doing desk work, or overreact to bright light. These children often act out in an attempt to cope with their inability to process sensory information such as acting out in crowded or loud places.

22.(**1.)Early-onset diabetes:Symptoms include aggression, depression, and anxiety. If you have a family history of diabetes checking for this is a must.

23.(**2.)Heart disease: It affects blood and oxygen flow to the brain affecting brain function that in-turn affects behavior.

24.(**3.)Cardiac conditions: It can reduce the supply of blood, oxygen and nutrients to the brain.


25.(**4.) Early-Onset Bi-Polar disorder:Also know as child-like Bi-polar. The experts state that 85% of children with child-like Bi-polar also meet the criteria for ADHD. The symptoms are extremely close. Most people when they think of Bi-polar disorder, think of Adult like Bipolar which mood swings happen over a somewhat long period of time. In child-like Bipolar, the mood swings can happen many times within a twenty-four hour day, known as rapid cycling. At one moment they're calm and the next minute they could be in a full fledge temper tantrum. Some of the symptoms are Distractibility, Hyperactivity, impulsivity, separation anxiety, restlessness, depressed mood, low self-esteem, and many more. Early-Onset Bi-polar should be ruled out before ADHD is considered mainly because they are treated with different medications if you choose medications that is. ADHD is treated with stimulant medications which will make a Bipolar child worse possibly psychotic.


26.(***1.)CAPD(Central Auditory processing Disorder) will sometimes occur in children who have had a history of ear infections and/or PE tubes. Symptoms include distractibility, inability to follow a set of verbal instructions, "space out", etc.

27.(***2.)Worms: Such as Pinworms lay their eggs in the anal area, causing tickling and itching, which are most bothersome at night. The lack of sleep from this type of infestation can cause crankiness or bad behavior during the day. When asleep, nightmares may be present. This problem is mostly found in very young children preschool to kindergarten because of primitive toileting skills, they tend to put their fingers in their mouths, and they participate in a lot of hands-on activities with other kids and with pets. Roundworms, hookworms, and tapeworms are other examples that can make a child display ADHD like symptoms. Worms cause hyperactive behavior, learning problems, depression, or attention deficits by making children miserable on the inside.

28.(***3.)Viral or bacterial infections:When a child is affected by an infection that might cause problem behavior.

29.(***4.)Malnutrition or improper diet: Many children in the United States do not eat a well balanced diet. A proper diet is necessary to growing children. An improper diet can affect a child's behavior in an ill way.

Hi Speedo (if you are till here). I have a bone to pick with this list of conditions that mimic ADHD. If you closely inspect the DSM introduction and FAQs you will find that DSM makes no attempt to attribute cause. All it does is list clusters of behavioural syndromes that show similar characteristics.

So a child can have symptoms caused by one of your proposed causes, and still have ADHD - because they still fulfill the criteria listed in the diagnosis. The ONLY exclusions accepted are ADHD symptoms that occur solely in the active phase of other DSM psych disorders
DSM V states:

  • [COLOR=rgb(2.997000%, 5.994000%, 98.901000%)]The symptoms do not occur exclusively during the course of schizophrenia or another psychotic disorder and are not better explained by another mental disorder (e.g., mood disorder, anxiety disorder, dissociative disorder, personality disorder, substance intoxication or withdrawal). [/color]



Note that complex childhood trauma is not yet a recognised DSM diagnosis.

So the majority of the interesting and relevant list you presented is not in fact a list of alternatives to an ADHD diagnosis, it is a list of reasons for an ADHD diagnosis.
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