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Old 02-11-17, 11:36 AM
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Question PMDD - just a side effect of ADD?

PMDD:
Each two weeks before I get my period I'm extremely tired, physically fatigued, mood swings with a mix of extreme irritablity, difficulty in concentrating, ravenous appetite and swings of anxiety. My GYN told me that I can either try different pills with different hormonal composition and hope that I find one that can palliate the symptoms (which I do not want so she sent me to a psychiatrist for ADs).

ADs: The psychiatrist I went to see had never heard of PMDD (and I'm not sure it's even in the ICD-10, which they are currently using in Austria), but listened to my above complaints and prescribed me Zoloft. After a week of taking it, I was a mess: I was extremely irratable and had a short fuse like I never had before. I basically felt like I had PMDD now for _the whole month_ instead of before. I went back to see her and she asked me to look at ADD symptoms and get back to her after my next GYN appointment.

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  • Often fails to give close attention to details or makes careless mistakes in schoolwork, work, or other activities
    That is the one thing all my teachers and various bosses at work complained to me about: 'You work so fast, but don't you notice all the tiny details that you got wrong?' No, I don't. And it's frustrating!
  • Often has difficulty sustaining attention in tasks
    I can sit in a 1,5 hour lecture about Neuropsychology and not get bored a bit. But if I have to sit in a lecture with a topic I don't care about or I dislike the lecture-style of the professor or even his work or research, I struggle to get through the lecture at all. Instead, I let my mind wander or read newspaper articles on my phone.
  • Often does not seem to listen when spoken to directly
    I noticed that I have no patience at all - even when I don't have PMS/PMDD. When I listen to my boyfriend's explaination about a difficult topic he just had learned about I cannot concentrate at all. I look at him, I see his face and his mouth moving, but I do not get his words. They seem to surround me, but not "connect" with me.
  • Often does not follow through on instructions and fails to finish schoolwork, chores, or duties in the workplace (not due to oppositional behavior or failure to understand instructions)
    Every thesis or paper which I had to write for Uni was written in the last 2-3 days before the deadline with lots of coffee and self-made pressure to finally GET IT DONE! I do have problems with studying for multiple choice tests though and I hate studying things that don't interest me or are written in a difficult manner (meaning 100 subordinate clauses on one page or language style). Always have to study with music or I get distracted by everything around me
  • Often has difficulty organizing tasks and activities
    80 percent of the time my room is a MESS. And I don't mean to drop my clothes right on the floor and leave them there or read 27 magazines at once and never throw them away, but they just end up accumulating and at the same time driving me insane, because I feel ashamed for not having it together and being able to have a presentable room for friends to come over.My closest friends ignore the chaos and sit in a free spot, if they can find one...
  • Often avoids, dislikes, or is reluctant to engage in tasks that require sustained mental effort (such as schoolwork or homework)
    I'm an avid procrastinator. I do "just enough" work in lectures or exams so I can get by. But: I also am the only one in my semester who had to repeat more than 6 exams for a second time, because I didn't seem to remember enough (although I thought I was okay-ish prepared for them). I avoid tasks that don't interest me.
  • Often loses things necessary for tasks or activities (e.g., toys, school assignments, pencils, books, or tools)
    Last month I went to the store to buy some groceries and I just realized I had forgotten my wallet at the checkout line. I was so embarrassed. It happened twice last month. Once, the day before I got my period. And a week later, on my period.
  • Is often easily distracted by extraneous stimuli
    A psychologist once told me that I'm highly sensitive. I read a lot about that subject and I tick off all the boxes. I hate the walking noises my neighbour makes while walking, who is living above me. I cannot sit in a coffee shop and study, I always zoom into other people's conversations and get completely distracted from what I was actually doing.
  • Is often forgetful in daily activities–even those the person performs regularly (e.g., a routine appointment)
    [i]I always have to check if I have turned off the stove 2-3 times, because it happened several times that I forgot to turn it off and I ruined a lot of pots in the past :/

I also have Hashimoto's - my TSH, T3, T4 is always checked every 6 months - and I am taking synthoroid every day. I am going to see another specialist (there are hardly any in Vienna unfortunately) in March to check if I have a "T4 to T3 conversion syndrom" - which also has the following symptoms: difficulty in concentrating, forgetfulness, depression, enlarged thyroid, fatigue, muscle weakness, puffy eyes, sensitivity to cold, slow heart rate etc.

Any idea if there is a "simple" way to find out if I have adult ADD or just the wonderful side effects of wrongful medicated Hashimoto's? Is PMDD something that happens to women with ADD or ADHD a lot more than people without it? I'm just not sure what to do next.
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Re: PMDD - just a side effect of ADD?

Was your official dx from the gyn or psyche doc PMDD?
Or is it your own working theory. I googled medications to treat PMDD and zoloft is one of them.

http://www.medicinenet.com/premenstr...pmdd/page4.htm
Now, I know a bad response to one medication doesnt mean you do not have the disorder but your adverse reaction makes me think that it might not be PMDD>but I am not a doctor of course.
It seems like the usual route for official PMDD is antidepressants but I think your gut feeling about it being something else is what you should consider pursuing.
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Re: PMDD - just a side effect of ADD?

Make sure they check your thyroid please people
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Re: PMDD - just a side effect of ADD?

This is a great post! I'm new to the forum but I also have been diagnosed with pmdd and ADHD. Here is my theory, (I'm no professional though, so please take this with a grain of salt, lol). I honestly think that pms+ADHD is just a recipe for disaster. We are already hypersensitive because of our brain mechanics and then tossed with a hormonal roller coaster....its inevitably going to get ugly. Real ugly. But yes, I think ADHD women are much more predisposed to pmdd than the general population!
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Re: PMDD - just a side effect of ADD?

I think that I might have PMDD after reading this then googling it. I just got my period this morning and yesterday and today, I am in a major, major funk. I cannot get it together. Yesterday, I sat on the couch and surfed the web and watched tv from the time I got up (1 pm!!) until I went to bed at 2:30 am. I need to clean, do homework, look/apply for jobs.

I am still in a funk today but slightly better. I have to shower and go grocery shopping but I don't want to!!!!! UGH!!!!!!!
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Re: PMDD - just a side effect of ADD?

Are you on the pill?
Most birth control pills contain progesterone, and ADHD women are supposed to be extra sensitive to it.
Personally I became a monster from progesterone. :/
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Re: PMDD - just a side effect of ADD?

I was only recently diagnosed with ADHD but suffered from PMDD for quite a few years before. I chose to go on Lutera birth control at the age of 17 mostly becuase of a relationship I was in. I took that for about a year and a half. While taking it I gained 25+ lbs, my attitude became worse (I'm kind of a nightmare for my parents, sorry mom and dad) and then I was diagnosed with PMDD and SAD. I decided to stop taking my BC and switch to the Minera and that has made all the difference. I lost the weight I gained in a few months, and my mood swings have been greatly diminished, along with my period now. So I would assume that the BC pill I was taking made me worse. I would do what the doctor recommended with switching the pills with different hormone compositions first, and if you don't see any improvement maybe try a different form of BC. I went with the IUD because it is very effective and the hormones don't really affect the rest of my body, since its being released right where it is needed.
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Re: PMDD - just a side effect of ADD?

I used to think that I had PMDD because two weeks of the month I would be in some what good mood with good energy So I would plan everything around those two weeks and mostly get things done and stick to plans made. The other two weeks one pre menstruation I would be all confused, eat, be tired and grumpy and the week of my period I would just be on the couch all dizzy headache and all kind of aches with lots of leaking. The problem was that as much I did my best and plan and buy all kind of helping soothing supplements and vitamins I would just stick with them for that two weeks only and after while I just can’t keep up because my mind would be all of the place obsessing about everything.
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Re: PMDD - just a side effect of ADD?

I think part of the problem is stigma. Women have always been made to look like 'hysterical little darlings" during their time of the month and almost glorified or expected to act so awful that men want to go away for one week each month. PMDD is a very real thing and very different than PMS.I can see how both PMDD and ADHD combined would be a real double header.
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Re: PMDD - just a side effect of ADD?

I've had this issue too. Before my diagnosis and my medication began (which was only October this year, and I'm in my late 30's!), I had major issues with PMT to the point of it being at PMDD levels (i.e. affecting my relationships with people etc.).
I actually stumbled across a medication that helped, after being prescribed it by an allergist because it was supposed to help regulate the response of mast cells which are involved in allergy reactions. It was Tranexamic Acid. It is often given to patients to prevent excessive blood loss, and is given to younger girls if they suffer from very heavy periods too. I took it during the times when I was feeling the PMT/PMDD symptoms, and it made them almost disappear. I don't know why it worked, I looked it up and I read somewhere that may affect oestrogen levels in some manner (either by mimicking oestrogen or by blocking it's uptake - I don't remember that well, sorry), plus it's a known anti-anxiolytic (has anti-anxiety effects). It might be something to ask your doctor about? It really had a surprising effect for the better for me, at least, and when I told my GP about it, they were happy to keep prescribing it to me.
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