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Re: Questions about so called SCT?

This is probably off topic but does sct come with any impulsiveness?
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Re: Questions about so called SCT?

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This is probably off topic but does sct come with any impulsiveness?

I don't think impulsiveness is listed in the symptoms of SCT that have been shared here.
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Re: Questions about so called SCT?

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This is probably off topic but does sct come with any impulsiveness?
Ask if ADD without H, come with any impulsiveness? And that would be the answer.





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Re: Questions about so called SCT?

The name SCT was created for when the “H” was added to ADD, in DSM 4.

ADD without hyperactivity in DSM 3 and SCT are the same thing.

It’s all word games.








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Hmm ... I googled it and the web says that they only co-occur when the
person has both SCT and the impulsive presentation of ADHD.
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Re: Questions about so called SCT?

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The name SCT was created when the “H” was added to ADD, in DSM 4.

It’s all word games.



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I don't agree with that.

I think that as they have been learning more about ADHD as a disorder,
they've been seeing that some people have symptoms that are different
than the symptoms of ADHD. So they gave it a working name and started
to study and compare what may be two similar but different disorders.
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Re: Questions about so called SCT?

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I don't agree with that.

I think that as they have been learning more about ADHD as a disorder,
they've been seeing that some people have symptoms that are different
than the symptoms of ADHD. So they gave it a working name and started
to study and compare what may be two similar but different disorders.
See post 18

http://www.addforums.com/forums/show...2&postcount=18

In the video Dr.Barkley describes ADD without H, with all the same symptoms as he now describes SCT.


Check for yourself.


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Re: Questions about so called SCT?

Somehow, when DSM 4 added a “H” to ADHD-PI, ADD without “H” became SCT.

It is impossible for a persons physiology to change because DSM changed the terminology for their criteria.

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Re: Questions about so called SCT?

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It is impossible for a persons physiology to change because DSM changed the terminology for their criteria.
I agree.

(Well, unless the change in terminology stresses you out, and your body release cortisol, and...)

Our understanding of the physiology grows, and the disorder names we use evolve over time, even if the underlying biology that those labels are meant to describe does not change (or doesn't change much). Sometimes several previously-distinct labels are combined to better describe a phenomenon; sometimes one label is divided into multiple labels to better reflect the diversity of underlying processes. Sometimes new labels are invented to serve a purpose; sometimes old labels are discarded because they are inaccurate or misleading.

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Re: Questions about so called SCT?

Thank you Namazu. Good explanation.
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See post 18

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In the video Dr.Barkley describes ADD without H, with all the same symptoms as he now describes SCT.


Check for yourself.


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Yes, I understand that.

What I was saying is that they (scientists and researchers) had seen some
differences and are in the process of studying it as a different disorder.
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Re: Questions about so called SCT?

Are you saying “ADD-without hyperactivity”, is a different disorder than “ADHD-PI”?





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I could be wrong, but I think it was just a name change for the same symptom list.
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I could be wrong, but I think it was just a name change for the same symptom list.

Are you saying after the DSM-3 inattentive symptom list, the DSM-4 inattentive symptom and DSM-5 inattentive symptom lists are wrong?




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