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Old 01-24-18, 05:00 AM
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Re: Attention Direction Deficiency

Involuntary Direction (emotional), and, Voluntary Direction (rational)

(Involuntary) Attention Direction Deficiency, verses, (Voluntary) Attention Direction Deficiency?


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Old 01-24-18, 05:21 AM
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Re: Attention Direction Deficiency

Involuntary Direction (affective), and, Voluntary Direction (cognitive)

Involuntary Sensory Direction, and, Voluntary Sensory Direction
Involuntary Emotional Direction, and, Voluntary Emotional Direction
Involuntary Homeostatic Direction, and, Voluntary Homeostatic Direction

Sorry to post so much, lots of interesting things to think about in your theory.


Please do not hold back if you disagree, I never thought the difference between involuntary affective feeling, verses, voluntary affective thoughts, before?

Example

Voluntarily looking at something, verses, involuntary looking because my eye were already open ?





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Re: Attention Direction Deficiency

Hypoactive involuntary attention direction deficiency, and, hypoactive voluntary direction deficiency.

Hyperactive involuntary attention direction deficiency, and, hyperactive voluntary direction deficiency.

Hypoactive involuntary attention direction deficiency, and, hyperactive voluntary direction deficiency.

Hyperactive involuntary attention direction deficiency, and, hypoactive voluntary direction deficiency.





Internal sensory environment and external sensory environment
Internal emotional environment and external emotional environment
Internal homeostatic environment and external homeostatic environment.



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Re: Attention Direction Deficiency

It's about not being able to maintain goal-directed behaviour because you fail to direct attention (over time) on one task.

where the new impulse comes from (emotions, thoughts, enviroment...) doesn't matter I think.
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Re: Attention Direction Deficiency

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It's about not being able to maintain goal-directed behaviour because you fail to direct attention (over time) on one task.

where the new impulse comes from (emotions, thoughts, enviroment...) doesn't matter I think.

From a neurodevelopmental view...

I think the primary cause is involuntary affective (bottom up) directed, and the deficiency of voluntary cognitive (top down) direction is the secondary effect.








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It's about not being able to maintain goal-directed behaviour because you fail to direct attention (over time) on one task.

where the new impulse comes from (emotions, thoughts, enviroment...) doesn't matter I think.
I also believe the source of the new impulse can be anything. Strip out all distractions in your environment and you still will find distractions in your mind and heart.

But... we ARE capable of goal-directed behaviour, it just needs an extraordinary level of positive or negative motivation.

For example, when a deadline nears, anxiety developing by projecting the negative consequence for missing the deadline creates a hyperfocus that allows one to remain goal-oriented but in term blocks out all possibly important secondary impulses or the flexibility to respond to them.

It almost seems as if the capabilities are there, but that they only really kick in in moments of Extasy or Flight or Fight responses
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But... we ARE capable of goal-directed behaviour
Notice the (over time) part.
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Notice the (over time) part.
yes in deed, it can work momentarily, but not over time. Since these driving moments of either Extasy or Flight or Fight responses can not be held up permanently as a workaround for the underlying neurological deficiency.
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Re: Attention Direction Deficiency

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Notice the (over time) part.
Interestingly, dopamine molecules have been linked to the perception of time.

Different number of dopamine molecules, a different perception of time?

Then there is the emotional motivational side— time flies when having fun, and time can be like watching paint dry when bored, (hypo and hyper degrees?)



(Side note: While I think dopamine is a factor, I do not think it is the only factor)






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yes in deed, it can work momentarily, but not over time. Since these driving moments of either Extasy or Flight or Fight responses can not be held up permanently as a workaround for the underlying neurological deficiency.
DeClutter,

I hope I am not appearing disagree with your theory outline.

Your theory outline is really helping me with the big picture.

What life period (age) is the person in your theory?






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Re: Attention Direction Deficiency

When ever I give directions to a lost tourist I always realize after, I forgot a street or a turn in my directions, etc.







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