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Feelings of anxiety caused by ADHD symptoms, or anxiety disorder?

Hi, I'm 22, in college, and in the process of being diagnosed with ADHD. Recently, I had an appointment with a psychiatrist on my campus to discuss my current medication; my GP had put me on 10mg of celexa per day because she said I am very intense and that should slow me down a bit (lol). Well, it did indeed slow me down, mainly because I experienced the following benefits from the drug: ____ and the following side effects!: exhaustion, decrease of appetite, decreased sex drive, severe concentration issues, etc etc, it was very unpleasant.

I made the appointment with the psychiatrist to discuss going off Celexa because I was experiencing no benefits from the drug. I didn't want to go off an antidepressant without talking to a doctor first, and didn't feel comfortable with my GP's knowledge of mental health to make a follow-up appt. After talking with him for a little over an hour about panic attacks and feeling anxious over things like homework, worrying I'm forgetting something related to my school work, and feeling weird and anxious after I have conversations with people, he told me because I do not have consistent panic/anxiety for no reason, he felt comfortable taking me off Celexa, saying I don't seem to have clinical depression or generalized anxiety. Instead, what I experience is episodic anxiety.

He told me to schedule an appointment off campus with a psychiatrist that diagnoses ADHD (this was after being told by a psychologist at school to pursue an ADHD diagnosis, and a screening on campus which indicated a high likelyhood of ADHD, unfortunately, my college does not diagnose/treat it on campus). He didn't prescribe me any medications such as klonopin or xanax to take when I was feeling particularly anxious, he instead suggested getting the ADHD treated and said that should address the root of my anxiety problems and take care of it.

I guess I'm perplexed about the differences between ADHD causing anxious feelings, and ADHD and co-morbid anxiety. Does anyone have any insights on the differences?
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Re: Feelings of anxiety caused by ADHD symptoms, or anxiety disorder?

You and me both, friend. I was just going to start a new thread:

ADHD causes anxiety, or anxiety causes ADHD symptoms?

I know they are co-morbid symptoms, but which is rooted in what? That's the million dollar question.

I DO know that when my daughter, 18, a college student but right now living at home with us, takes her ADD med (stimulant) her anxiety ceases. Whereas when I tried the same low-dose stimulant, I got all anxious and jittery. When I gave my daughter some Lemon Balm to calm her down, she felt nothing. When I take Lemon Balm, I am soothed. Caffeine calms her, and it jolts me.

But we are back to the beginning.

I had a lot of ADD symptoms when I was a child. I was anxious; the world overwhelmed my senses, and I had a rich imagination that was far more entertaining than the boring everyday monotony in front of me. I was slow in adjusting to reality and hated it. It made me SO nervous to have to focus, because I just couldn't. I felt trapped inside a bubble, while everything around me was moving so fast, so loudly, it was all confusing. My escape was alcohol, which took away my anxiety. Caffeine and other stims worked well for me. But there was still the choas of my life... I traveled a lot to escape--what? Myself and my anxieties?

Fast forward ten years, I sobered up. I had to learn to deal with reality. It was really rough. I felt raw. I would sweat and have anxiety attacks all the time. My thoughts were so scattered. One time I was so fragmented I walked out of the house with a curler still stuck on my head and my shirt on inside-out. But I went through a 12-step program that gave me rules for living and I adapted some helpful behaviors that helped me cope. Also, I truly believe that my frontal cortex (and other important parts of the brain) finally developed more fully.

All this came at a cost: I lost most of my creativity and imagination; very little ability to daydream. I had to learn to live in the here and now and plan (but not worry) about the future. It has been a massive amount of mental discipline and now the neural pathways are in place, "living normally" is second nature.

If only I could condense and package this process and give it to my daughter. But I can't, so I must stand by her and see what path she takes in dealing with her issues.
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Re: Feelings of anxiety caused by ADHD symptoms, or anxiety disorder?

I am 21, anxious, and have ADHD. I've always been anxious. But when I take my stimulant ADHD medication I feel a lot calmer.

I think it's because of all my thoughts rushing in my head and the stimulant medication slows them down paradoxically.

Nobody should be afraid of medication. It helps a majority of people.
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Re: Feelings of anxiety caused by ADHD symptoms, or anxiety disorder?

Yes I'm impatiently looking forward to my appointment with an off-campus psychiatrist in a couple weeks. I'm hoping the Dr. and I will address these issues and I will finally get some relief from feeling like a spaz!
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Re: Feelings of anxiety caused by ADHD symptoms, or anxiety disorder?

Meds definitely help my anxiety level. Can't express how much I am grateful for that; however, I've still got anxiety and it feels a bit different. I don't know how to describe the difference. Almost like if anxiety were layers of clothing, the ADD meds caused the restrictively fitting consistently uncomfortable shoes, tight-elastic socks, mittens and beanie to come off. Feels like I've got on a thermal, a t-shirt, a fleece, a vest and a jacket on. Suffocating feeling still, but whew, at least there's some counter current exchange through the extremities now...


I hope the ADD meds take care of it for you.
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Re: Feelings of anxiety caused by ADHD symptoms, or anxiety disorder?

Welcome deathbybread! (love your name)

You seem to be really wise to be so young! I applaud you for realizing that you needed more than your GP. It sounds like you're on the right track. If you've found a good specialist, it will make all the difference in the world.

I've ALWAYS had anxiety!! Even as a very young child. I'm pretty sure mine is primary as is my son's. My husband thinks our son's anxiety is the culprit of his ADHD symptoms. He may be right! We're still trying to figure it all out.

If ADHD is causing your anxiety, then the meds should definitely help it.

In the end, I think coping mechanisms are what gets you through. Meds help, but not for the total problem. I'm very interested to try yoga for anxiety.

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You seem to be really wise to be so young! I applaud you for realizing that you needed more than your GP. It sounds like you're on the right track. If you've found a good specialist, it will make all the difference in the world.
Thank you for the kind words! It feels good to be on such a supportive forum, my family isn't very helpful! My parents (divorced) both have ADD, but my dad says he manages it by "taking life slowly" and my mom is convinced it all has to do with artificial colors and flavorings/preservatives

I love yoga as well! I used to do it quite frequently, however I get bored of it really easily Which stinks because it's fun, I know its fun, and it makes me feel good. Just have a hard time bringing myself to do it!
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Thank you for the kind words! It feels good to be on such a supportive forum, my family isn't very helpful! My parents (divorced) both have ADD, but my dad says he manages it by "taking life slowly" and my mom is convinced it all has to do with artificial colors and flavorings/preservatives

I love yoga as well! I used to do it quite frequently, however I get bored of it really easily Which stinks because it's fun, I know its fun, and it makes me feel good. Just have a hard time bringing myself to do it!
You are so welcome! Support in anything you do is vital! Mine mainly comes from my wonderful friends (my husband doesn't get it). He thinks you "just do it".

If you have the iphone, try the self hypnosis/meditation app. It's wonderful for anxiety!
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Hi, I'm 22, in college, and in the process of being diagnosed with ADHD. Recently, I had an appointment with a psychiatrist on my campus to discuss my current medication; my GP had put me on 10mg of celexa per day because she said I am very intense and that should slow me down a bit (lol). Well, it did indeed slow me down, mainly because I experienced the following benefits from the drug: ____ and the following side effects!: exhaustion, decrease of appetite, decreased sex drive, severe concentration issues, etc etc, it was very unpleasant.

I made the appointment with the psychiatrist to discuss going off Celexa because I was experiencing no benefits from the drug. I didn't want to go off an antidepressant without talking to a doctor first, and didn't feel comfortable with my GP's knowledge of mental health to make a follow-up appt. After talking with him for a little over an hour about panic attacks and feeling anxious over things like homework, worrying I'm forgetting something related to my school work, and feeling weird and anxious after I have conversations with people, he told me because I do not have consistent panic/anxiety for no reason, he felt comfortable taking me off Celexa, saying I don't seem to have clinical depression or generalized anxiety. Instead, what I experience is episodic anxiety.

He told me to schedule an appointment off campus with a psychiatrist that diagnoses ADHD (this was after being told by a psychologist at school to pursue an ADHD diagnosis, and a screening on campus which indicated a high likelyhood of ADHD, unfortunately, my college does not diagnose/treat it on campus). He didn't prescribe me any medications such as klonopin or xanax to take when I was feeling particularly anxious, he instead suggested getting the ADHD treated and said that should address the root of my anxiety problems and take care of it.

I guess I'm perplexed about the differences between ADHD causing anxious feelings, and ADHD and co-morbid anxiety. Does anyone have any insights on the differences?

Sorry first and foremost for the unsupportive parents I have a couple of those myself their solution is just tough through it well that makes it obvious to me they haven't dealt with anything like this.

Just to let you know I have been diagnosed GAD now and on Xanax for 10 years Im a law student now and have realized that I don't have GAD I have anxiety because of the symptoms of ADHD.

Im also in the process of being diagnosed and Im hoping the anxiety will slow down because over the ten years I have taken it I have had to take more and more to keep me sane. I only wish I would have seeked out help earlier, but hell it is what it is. Good luck to you!
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Just to let you know I have been diagnosed GAD now and on Xanax for 10 years Im a law student now and have realized that I don't have GAD I have anxiety because of the symptoms of ADHD.
Yeah, it's easy for medical professionals to say, oh, panic attacks and spaztic freakouts? Anxiety! A psychologist I was talking to told me I should talk to a psychiatrist about getting klonopin or xanax or something. After talking to him he was like yooou don't have anxiety, go get evaluated for ADHD! And I think blurring the lines between the two is awful. I've read a lot of people on this forum complaining about being on xanax for years. That's a little frightening! I know it's an intense medicine. I'm hoping when I see my new Dr. she gives me a stimulant medication for the ADHD. Although never prescribed, I've taken them previously and was amazed at the mental clarity/ability to get stuff done without scanning the horizon for my next distraction (not that I'll tell my doctor I've taken medicine that wasn't prescribed to me, lol). I'm worried she'll put me on strattera though, it reminds me way too much of an antidepressant the way you have to take it everyday and wait for accumulated chemical effects.

I'm kind of a control freak and feel like that's the medicine in control of me. I'd much rather have something I can take when I want to, when I'll know I need it, to minimize how much I take it, for example, weekends, holidays, etc. But idk. I was talking that over with my boyfriend who has been on stimulant medicine before and he was worried if I told my doctor that she wouldn't take me seriously because a treatment plan is supposed to be that you take your medicine every day, twice a day.

I feel like I went off on a tangent there, lol.
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Re: Feelings of anxiety caused by ADHD symptoms, or anxiety disorder?

I am diagnosed with both AX and ADHD. I can only tell you what i feel and go through on a daily basis i suppose.

My adhd, causes me lack of focus,procrastination,"zoning out" and sometimes so much energy flowing through me i literally bounce around.


My anxiety issues are, social phobia's such as going anywhere with alot of people, and so many faces to look at. Public speaking, as well as going into places where i am the center of attraction (being made fun of)

My anxiety causes me serious physical and mental stress. One time i was in the hospital for 1 month due to my leg twitching and i had no control over it.

when i feel the panic attack hit me, i get dizzy, hot and flustered, sweaty palms, shaky, and a rush feeling of OMG i gotta get the heck out of here NOW! These symptoms are alot different then ADHD symptoms, and my adhd does NOT cause me the same anxiety issues as described above. the anxious feelings i get with adhd are: panic when i feel dumb for forgetting something, constantly going back to my house to make sure i turned off the stove and locked the doors because i just cant remember if i did. anxious about focusing on remembering something like where i put my keys, or a phone number.


Anyways, just a brief description and clarification as the two are VERY different at least for me.
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Re: Feelings of anxiety caused by ADHD symptoms, or anxiety disorder?

I'm really glad you shared the differences you've experienced, that's really interesting to read. I never feel so anxious that "I need to get out of here now," but I do have what I believe to be panic attacks, although I do not think they are as severe as people who suffer anxiety disorders experience. I experience anxious feelings when I'm trying to remember something, for example, participating in class, I'll raise my hand and try to repeat to myself over and over again the point I wanted to make, then when it takes a minute or two for my turn to speak, I start to be like oh my gosh what was I going to say!!! I'm going to sound like a moron!

I've also had spaztic panicy freakouts, for example, sometimes I'm at home and I'll realize I've been aloof all afternoon and haven't done my homework by the time 8:00 pm has rolled around. So I'll stop and think: what do I have due tomorrow? What was I supposed to be working on... why haven't I done any work, I think I'm forgetting something. Oh my GOD I'm forgetting something, what was I supposed to do???! where I'll feel dizzy, start hyperventilating, curl up in a ball, and bury my head and call myself names for being so dumb and forgetful and irresponsible. But they're not that bad, it's more like I get so worked up and I don't know how to calm down because I get an idea stuck in my head (like the idea I've forgotten something).

I've had episodes where i'll get even more upset where I literally can't speak or breathe regularly and I sound like I'm choking because I'm so frustrated/upset, but I think that's only happened a few times ever and it's always a compounded thing, like a "perfect storm" where my family is ****ing me off, I'm stressed out from work, feeling stupid, worried about money, and my car's falling apart, etc etc kind of things.
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Re: Feelings of anxiety caused by ADHD symptoms, or anxiety disorder?

I think that anxiety symptoms are caused by ADHD, of course if ADHD exists.
My personal experience is that I wasn't anxious at home where I can act hyper without any worry that someone will think I'm crazy, but in public places when I try to control my hyperness I start to feel anxious and it comes to the worst moment - panic attack.That's the worst feeling ever.
My opinion is that anxiety can't cause ADHD. It can cause restlessness and lack of focus but it's not ADHD.
The fact is that those two conditions are comorbid.
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Re: Feelings of anxiety caused by ADHD symptoms, or anxiety disorder?

It can go either way.

My son and daughter are both ADHD and have anxiety issues.
Having both myself I may have been more aware than your average bear.

My son clearly developed anxiety as he got older. His ADHD was unmedicated due to other health issues, thankfully now resolved. It was easy to see the connection between ADHD social issues and the development of anxiety. aDHD meds helped a lot.

My daughter had severe social anxiety and phobias from a very young age. As a very young infant she cried if I was not visible to her, if I was she was happy as a clam. I still wonder if this was the first manifestation of anxiety. Anyhow her anxiety treatment helped the ADHD. She is still very inattentive and impulsive but anxiety meds vs no anxiety meds is like night and day.

I am not sure if this was sound medical advise but her doctor basically said if we treated the wrong one as primary the other would get much worse. This is why he would only start her on one or the other. As a test of sorts.

I don't think the anxiety caused the ADHD, it just amplified some symptoms.

For myself, Adderall greatly helps my anxiety. My only problem is the anxiety now seems worse when the Adderall wears off. Doesn't happen on no med days so I hope it will resolve over time.
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Re: Feelings of anxiety caused by ADHD symptoms, or anxiety disorder?

I'm on treatment for anxiety with Paxil and Klonopin. It helps me, I feel a lot calmer, but I still notice some ADHD symptoms. I think that ADHD is primary in my case and because it wasn't diagnosed and treated on time, I developed anxiety,social phobia,panic attacks... It was horrible! Thanks God,now I feel little better and I have a checkup for a week,so I'll see what happens.
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