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Old 06-28-17, 03:55 PM
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ADD or just lazy?

Hi, I am new to the forum, but have been reading some of the threads to see if I see any similarities in what other people are dealing with.

I was diagnosed about 10 years ago with ADD and remember doing well on the medication, but the doctor I was seeing passed away, and I just simply stopped taking the medication.

I am currently taking Wellbutrin and Lexapro for depression and anxiety, and working with a therapist, but I don't seem to be feeling any better. My biggest issues are, lack of motivation, avoiding and canceling social functions due to anxiety (I think), and sometimes I don't get out of bed for days. I love my job and what I do for a living, but I can come to work and do absolutely nothing all day but avoid tasks and procrastinate. My self esteem is terrible, and I feel guilty for wasting days at a time in my bed. I get things half done and then give up, and I have a major shopping issue, retail therapy is the only thing that seems to make me happy. I am trying to find a new psychiatrist to get re-evaluated for ADD, but sometimes I think maybe I'm just lazy? Dazed and confused.
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Re: ADD or just lazy?

Welcome to the forum!

Not getting out of bed for days on end doesn't sound so much like ADHD and much more like major depression. Otherwise, it's probably just my own relationship with the word but I really, really dislike the word "lazy". If you want to work and you wind up just procrastinating all day instead and that's giving you grief, that in and of itself is something you ought to talk to a psychiatrist about. Maybe it's ADHD, maybe it's a symptom of a major bout of depression you happen to be in, maybe it's something else entirely. I just don't think that very many people are naturally lazy and the ones that do *very* rarely see themselves as such.
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Re: ADD or just lazy?

Be really careful here ... I agree with Johnny ... totally sounds like serious depression ...

Explain your symptoms and your activity level to your prescribing doctor. Nobody sits in bed because they are "lazy."

Good luck and report back ...

Also, sounds like your esteem is in the tank. What do you think of finding a therapist? ... Might be helpful.

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Re: ADD or just lazy?

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I am currently taking Wellbutrin and Lexapro for depression and anxiety, and working with a therapist, but I don't seem to be feeling any better. My biggest issues are, lack of motivation, avoiding and canceling social functions due to anxiety (I think), and sometimes I don't get out of bed for days. I love my job and what I do for a living, but I can come to work and do absolutely nothing all day but avoid tasks and procrastinate. My self esteem is terrible, and I feel guilty for wasting days at a time in my bed. I get things half done and then give up, and I have a major shopping issue, retail therapy is the only thing that seems to make me happy. I am trying to find a new psychiatrist to get re-evaluated for ADD, but sometimes I think maybe I'm just lazy? Dazed and confused.
I second what the others have said about being depressed. It doesnt mean you cant have adhd but it does mean that the depression would need to be treated first regardless. Lazy is a word I also hate because it implies intent. You dont purposely want to not do things.
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Re: ADD or just lazy?

Thank you all for your replies, I quickly wrote that post as I was getting ready to leave work yesterday, so let me elaborate a little more;

I definitely suffer from depression and anxiety, I take meds for both, 300mg of Wellbutrin, and 20mg of Lexapro, and 1mg of Xanax (only as needed). I started seeing a therapist once every 2 weeks, and she is really helping me dig deep and talk about things that I should have dealt with years ago (but it's never too late, right?). I love her and I'm really happy with the progress I am making there, I can feel my self esteem getting better, but I'm still a work in progress.

The staying in bed for days at a time thing, I always attributed that to my depression and anxiety, and I still think that plays a role. I know I need to get up and do things around the house, laundry, go to the grocery store, clean etc., but those things just seem so big and overwhelming at that point, and I have zero motivation to get up. And then I feel guilty and ashamed for wasting my days away locked up in my room.

I have 2 teenage boys that I share custody with my ex (I don't do the staying in bed thing when they are with me, because I enjoy being with them and doing things with them) and a busy full time job, and I feel like a very different person in those roles, then I do when I'm alone. Although there are many days that I come to work, look at my to do list, close the book and then proceed to do nothing all day, again, lack of motivation, feeling overwhelmed etc.

I have friends, and I will make plans with them, and then immediately feel anxious and regret that I made those plans. A lot of times I end up canceling and staying home because the thought of getting ready and getting to the meeting place is just too much.

So the reason I came back to thinking about ADD, is I was diagnosed with it before and I remember doing really well on Adderall, and I didn't have any depression or anxiety during that time. And my main problem right now is the lack of motivation or drive to do the things I need to do, and feeling overwhelmed by simple tasks. I know depression and anxiety can also stem for ADD, so I wonder if all that got worse for me because I'm not treating my ADD. My son also has ADD and low spectrum Aspergers, so it does run in our family.
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Re: ADD or just lazy?

If you were diagnosed in the past and did well on the medication, then you probably have ADHD. I would find a good psychiatrist and tell him you were diagnosed with ADHD in the past, and you would like to restart your treatment.
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Re: ADD or just lazy?

I actually just got off the phone with a doctor that can re-evaluate me and submit an official diagnosis to my PCP who can them prescribe medication for me again! It's been very hard trying to find someone in my area that takes my insurance and doesn't have a 6 month waiting list. So I finally see a light at the end of the tunnel, although my appointment isn't for another couple of weeks, I am just glad I am making progress!
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Re: ADD or just lazy?

Normal laziness comes with the expectation of some kind of benefit. People who are lazy for normal reasons can stop being lazy whenever it suits them. If you've tried to stop acting lazy because it's detrimental to you, but you haven't succeeded, you should consider the laziness to be a symptom of a disorder (ADHD or not). If you're not sure whether you've tried hard enough, you probably have.

It seems a lot of us with ADHD have issues with the "initiation of action" aspect of executive functioning, and it causes the same kind of problems you're having. Just a weird urge to not do things! I wrote everything I know about the issue here, but the short story is that ADHD meds are the only major helpful thing I've heard of. Antidepressants don't help. The problem is executive dysfunction, not a depressive disorder (but it will probably make you "depressed" because it tangibly lowers your quality of life).
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I actually just got off the phone with a doctor that can re-evaluate me and submit an official diagnosis to my PCP who can them prescribe medication for me again! It's been very hard trying to find someone in my area that takes my insurance and doesn't have a 6 month waiting list. So I finally see a light at the end of the tunnel, although my appointment isn't for another couple of weeks, I am just glad I am making progress!
Have you asked your PCP about it? My PCP diagnoses and treats ADHD (not like it's a rare or complicated condition really requiring a specialist plus you were already diagnosed in the past) and I got an appointment in a week or so.
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So the reason I came back to thinking about ADD, is I was diagnosed with it before and I remember doing really well on Adderall, and I didn't have any depression or anxiety during that time. And my main problem right now is the lack of motivation or drive to do the things I need to do, and feeling overwhelmed by simple tasks. I know depression and anxiety can also stem for ADD, so I wonder if all that got worse for me because I'm not treating my ADD. My son also has ADD and low spectrum Aspergers, so it does run in our family.
Not treating adhd can definitely lead to a resurgence of anxiety. I am not certain if anxiety is necessarily an associated symptom but it is certainly ALL too common for people with adhd to have anxiety and depression disorders.
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Normal laziness comes with the expectation of some kind of benefit. People who are lazy for normal reasons can stop being lazy whenever it suits them. If you've tried to stop acting lazy because it's detrimental to you, but you haven't succeeded, you should consider the laziness to be a symptom of a disorder (ADHD or not). If you're not sure whether you've tried hard enough, you probably have.

It seems a lot of us with ADHD have issues with the "initiation of action" aspect of executive functioning, and it causes the same kind of problems you're having. Just a weird urge to not do things! I wrote everything I know about the issue here, but the short story is that ADHD meds are the only major helpful thing I've heard of. Antidepressants don't help. The problem is executive dysfunction, not a depressive disorder (but it will probably make you "depressed" because it tangibly lowers your quality of life).
Cyllya your article above is really useful. I'm having a really hard time at my new job due to tech and music distractions. My company plays music through speakers on my floor at all times with lyrics. It's so distracting. Some people think it's funny how much I hate it but I'm actually getting offended that someone doesn't realize how difficult it would be for a person with ADHD.

We also have a gazillion social collaboration tools. Little notification alerts go off constantly. I've decided to turn it all off and explain to people that if they need something from me, the need to set up a meeting. Mentioning that I have to do something on a chat app does not count.

Sorry I realize this is a different subject, I tried to start a new thread earlier and kept screwing it up!
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Re: ADD or just lazy?

Retail therapy! I buy laptops... It's not as if I don't need them, good to have spares for my work but I don't earn enough, even for solid investments.

You're not just 'lazy'... Since my diagnosis and meds I've forgiven myself for so much of that (and being late, disinterested in people helping me, even rude... Very very rude so many times as a kid...)

I'm not sure 'lazy' even exists... I think it's a rather cheap and obvious idea invented by people who find life rather straight-forward, even easy (the same people who tell you it took a lot of hard work to get where they are today!).

Do what you must to keep your job! If you've been on the meds before, if they helped you as much as they have helped me, remember what you were like back then:

- An engaging, sociably capable person
- Insightful, forward-thinking and productive
- With sound judgement and dependable decision-making skills
- Valued by those around you, even envied!

(those are all about me, lolol, hope you recognise the same in yourself!)

Please keep us informed, hearing about people improving their lives helps lots of people!
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Lazy IMO implies intent. Like you are willfully trying to avoid doing something. Thats not how it is for adhd.
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Re: ADD or just lazy?

First, thank you all so much for your replies and feedback, it has been hugely helpful, and I discussed some of your opinions with my therapist.

She agrees that I'm not lazy, but she asked me why I have continued on Wellbutrin and lexapro if I'm still feeling depressed and anxious? Great question! She thinks I could be over medicated and the medication may be what's making me feel worse. It was kind of a lightbulb moment.

I did just get my prescription yesterday for Adderall, 20mgXR, and I'm going to work with my GP to start tapering off of Lexapro first, and then reduce the Wellbutrin and see how that works.

I'm working with my therapist/psychologist on a lot of trauma from my childhood, and she believes that working through these things and really allowing myself to feel and acknowledge the pain this caused, will greatly help me in many ways.

So there's my update, thank you all once again for taking the time to support me and offer advice ����
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Hi! When i was diagnosed with ADHD I had originally thought I was bi-polar. Some days i would be super happy and productive and then i would crash and be completely depressed sometimes for days at a time. There are a lot of different symptoms that women experience that are different from men and there are a lot of different things that could be considered symptoms. For instance, yesterday I was super excited and productive but by the evening i was completely depressed and felt like my whole world was falling apart. The ups and downs are often overlooked. Also, When i first went in my Psychiatrist told me I was totally overly medicated for anxiety and it was making me worse! I hope the adderall helps!
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