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View Poll Results: how do you guys deal with adhd
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Growing up i always knew i was different from the other kids but i never got my adhd properly diagnosed, i still haven't but i'm 100% sure i do.

I was at a friends birthday recently when i took 10 dexis for the first time ever (first time doing any stimulant), at the start it made me pretty tired but then after awhile I had this weird feeling of being "normal", like i felt like myself if i wasn't born with adhd. all my messy thoughts cleared, I gained quite a'bit of energy, fixed my anxiety, somehow made me quite articulate with every word aka fix my slurred words, I could read as fast as i could see the words(keep in mind i normally have quite a bit of difficulty reading without messing up), but best of all it gave me such a crazy focus, like for once i could actually do something and not get so distracted all the time.

Another weird effect it had on me was it made me i swear more intelligent, not as in more focused or clear minded but i somehow could freestyle soo much better, like words came to me more naturally. Not only that but even my rap voice sounded better when i was on the dexies AHAH (i can't rap normally)

after i got home form the party i spent a good 8 hours researching about dexis and adhd and for once i was actually engaged with all the reading which has never really happened before ( i have yet to finish reading a book in my life time) didn't have to read a page over again and my mind didn't space out randomly.

however after the dexis stopped working i started getting headaches, my hands where going numb sometimes, i was hallucinating a bit and my sense of sound would distort when i moved around to much. o and i haven't slept yet

I'm now thinking about getting prescriptions but i don't quite know enough about the long term effects. Can some one take adhd medication everyday for the whole life and not get withdraws whenever they feel like stopping?

what if i become dependent on the drug to be "normal". Can i gain any benefits from meds when i'm not on them? eg try learning the mind set you have while on the drugs and adapting them to the none meded self.

will i have a tolerance now since i took 10 for my first time, if so how long does it take to go down?

i'm sure loneliness effects most people with adhd, people without it won't ever understand the frustration and pain of what could of been. My name is Matthew i'm 20 years old.

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Hi Matthew,

I would suggest seeking out a thorough evaluation from a psychiatrist or psychologist.

There are a number of things that can cause ADHD-like symptoms, and you want to be sure that you really have ADHD (or figure out what else is going on) so that you can approach it in the best way.

A positive-seeming response to ADHD drugs does not confirm a diagnosis of ADHD.

I probably don't need to tell you that taking a friend's medication is illegal and dangerous to your health. 10 pills at a time is a huge dose, and very unwise. If the drug triggers hallucinations and you're not sleeping, that's a really bad thing. (Please see the ADDF guidelines re: posting about medication misuse and overdose.)

If you're interested in legitimate treatment rather than getting high, then you definitely need to work with a qualified health professional.

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I was at a friends birthday recently when i took 10 dexis for the first time ever (first time doing any stimulant), at the start it made me pretty tired but then after awhile I had this weird feeling of being "normal", like i felt like myself if i wasn't born with adhd. all my messy thoughts cleared, I gained quite a'bit of energy, fixed my anxiety, somehow made me quite articulate with every word aka fix my slurred words, I could read as fast as i could see the words(keep in mind i normally have quite a bit of difficulty reading without messing up), but best of all it gave me such a crazy focus, like for once i could actually do something and not get so distracted all the time.
10 pills is alot especially since they are not prescribed to you. Who's pills were they?

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Another weird effect it had on me was it made me i swear more intelligent, not as in more focused or clear minded but i somehow could freestyle soo much better, like words came to me more naturally. Not only that but even my rap voice sounded better when i was on the dexies AHAH (i can't rap normally)
A positive reaction to stimulants is not indicative of whether or not you have adhd.

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after i got home form the party i spent a good 8 hours researching about dexis and adhd and for once i was actually engaged with all the reading which has never really happened before ( i have yet to finish reading a book in my life time) didn't have to read a page over again and my mind didn't space out randomly.

however after the dexis stopped working i started getting headaches, my hands where going numb sometimes, i was hallucinating a bit and my sense of sound would distort when i moved around to much. o and i haven't slept yet
Those can be signs of amphetamine psychosis and its probably because you took 10 pills. This is not they way clinical doses feel or are supposed to feel.

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I'm now thinking about getting prescriptions but i don't quite know enough about the long term effects. Can some one take adhd medication everyday for the whole life and not get withdraws whenever they feel like stopping?

what if i become dependent on the drug to be "normal". Can i gain any benefits from meds when i'm not on them? eg try learning the mind set you have while on the drugs and adapting them to the none meded self.
If you become dependent on your prescribed dose of medication than so what? If a doctor determines you have adhd then you should take your medication everyday.

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Tolerance is not as common as your think and occurs when someone has been taking stimulants for a long time.
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Re: your poll choices:

how do you guys deal with adhd

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none proven.
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overwhelming evidence as a first line treatment for adhd.

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Ignoring it doesnt mean it goes away.
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adhd is defined by impairments so I cant see anything advantageous about it.
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Re: stupid mistakes need some guidance can someone plz help me!

Sarahsweets has said a lot of good things. Let me add my three cents to those:

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I'm now thinking about getting prescriptions but i don't quite know enough about the long term effects.
It starts with an ADHD assessment. If you get the diagnosis and the specialist thinks you might benefit from medication, then a prescription is likely to be one of the next steps.

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Can some one take adhd medication everyday for the whole life and not get withdraws whenever they feel like stopping?
Some people experience so-called rebounds on whenever a stimulant wears off (which would be daily, at least). They may feel even more foggy or hyper than they would have been without meds. This usually wears off quickly and can sometimes be prevented by adjusting meds.

Long-term, stimulants do not tend to cause withdrawals symptoms when someone stops taking them. Hence, some people do not take medication on days that they don't need them as much (such as the weekends). Some other non-stimulant medications are known to cause withdrawal symptoms. The way of preventing that is by never abruptly changing dosages (always go up and down very slowly, so never skip a day, for one).

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ADHD meds will not make you "normal". They may make you more functioning if you are lucky.
And yes, being on meds tends to make people more susceptible to learning and training. That is the reason that therapy tends to be much more helpful when people have been on meds at the same time rather than when people just receive therapy.

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Re: stupid mistakes need some guidance can someone plz help me!

How do I deal with ADHD?

1. Ignore it
2. Forget about it
3. Fail miserably at life
4. Get very down/distressed due to self-hatred
5. Remember that I have ADHD
6. Try and relearn not to beat myself up
7. Getting overconfident and thinking it's not that bad
8. Repeat from 1

So after years of this self-destructive cycle I have finally got a referral for an ADHD assessment
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Welcome to the forum Matthew!

To clarify, did you take 10 dextroamphetamine pills or did you take 1 pill that was 10mg?

Taking 10 pills at once is playing Russian roulette. I've taken dex. and Adderall for years, so my body is acclimated to them. I would be scared for my life if I ingested 10 of them at once.

Please be careful and avoid experimenting with stimulants. There are very real dangers. See your Dr. and get evaluated for ADHD instead.

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It's a wacky coincidence, but I started taking a supplement with both Omega 3
(fish oil) and Evening Primrose Oil at about the same time I began learning
about ADHD because it was suggested that my granddaughter might have it.

Within a couple of weeks of starting the supplement I noticed that I was able
to finish a complete thought (spoken or written) without forgetting the word
I wanted to use and feeling like I'd run into a brick wall. My focus was so much
better.

The supplement was expensive though, so I stopped taking it, and soon I was
back to my "normal" fuzzy, foggy brain. I kept reading about adhd and learned
that there have been studies that show Omega 3 and Evening Primrose Oil are
both helpful for some people with ADHD. So I went to Walmart and bought a
bottle of cheap Omega 3. Fuzzy brain gone, focus back. Yay!

It doesn't work for everyone of course, neither do the stimulant medications.
I was very lucky that the first thing I tried worked for me, and has continued
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Re: stupid mistakes need some guidance can someone plz help me!

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How do I deal with ADHD?

1. Ignore it
2. Forget about it
3. Fail miserably at life
4. Get very down/distressed due to self-hatred
5. Remember that I have ADHD
6. Try and relearn not to beat myself up
7. Getting overconfident and thinking it's not that bad
8. Repeat from 1

So after years of this self-destructive cycle I have finally got a referral for an ADHD assessment
yooo Arthos that's exactly how I've been living my life internally.. wtf ahah the adhd makes me over confident sometimes when i'm at partie where there are consistent stimulants to distract me from my thoughts. however when i'm with one or few people and there's not much of a distraction my anxiety kicks in full force and it feels like i can't control my body or my words and i just end up doing stupid stuff. have you had a like experience?
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Welcome to the forum Matthew!

To clarify, did you take 10 dextroamphetamine pills or did you take 1 pill that was 10mg?

Taking 10 pills at once is playing Russian roulette. I've taken dex. and Adderall for years, so my body is acclimated to them. I would be scared for my life if I ingested 10 of them at once.

Please be careful and avoid experimenting with stimulants. There are very real dangers. See your Dr. and get evaluated for ADHD instead.

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Greyhound1 i took 10 5mg ea dexis, was such a stupid idea.. felt like that dude in the limitless movie in relation to the high and low.
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yooo Arthos that's exactly how I've been living my life internally.. wtf ahah the adhd makes me over confident sometimes when i'm at partie where there are consistent stimulants to distract me from my thoughts. however when i'm with one or few people and there's not much of a distraction my anxiety kicks in full force and it feels like i can't control my body or my words and i just end up doing stupid stuff. have you had a like experience?
Have never taken stimulants so I wouldn't know about that specifically. For me it's more a matter of out of mind out of heart, in that as soons as a low point has past I can instantly not recall or imagine how low that point has been. So basically every not-so-low point is a reason for me to get overconfident and underestimate the impact ADHD is having on my life, which obviously usually wrecks itself later.

I am also very much a distraction seeker. It's how I deal with most things. Try not to think about it. Doesn't always work. Especially since it only tends to hide the real issue rather than resolve it, so chances are it will resurface anyway. Still haven't found any other more effective ways of coping though
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I'm trying to ignore it, which means I'm screwing up my health, wasting time, being a burden on others and not getting anything done.
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Try not to think about it. Doesn't always work. Especially since it only tends to hide the real issue rather than resolve it, so chances are it will resurface anyway. Still haven't found any other more effective ways of coping though
That's what I've done in dealing with my ADHD, too, and lots of other things in my life. It sounds a lot like what Dr. Charles Parker calls "Avoiding ADHD." Parker is a psychiatrist and author of the online blog, Corepsych, and has some interesting ways of looking at ADHD. He has identified three subtypes of ADHD that he has seen in his practice as a psychiatrist:
  • Acting ADHD: i.e. "acting without thinking."
  • Thinking ADHD: i.e. "thinking, thinking, thinking without acting; thinking too much and worrying and fretting, analyzing and double analyzing and being indecisive."
  • Avoiding ADHD: i.e. "I’m not going to think and I’m not going to act." This is especially true of things that have too many unpredictable variables or that have increased variables with decreased structure. Other ADHD experts like Ari Tuckman describe avoidance of things that are either boring or arouse feelings of anxiety as a secondary psychological characteristic of ADHD.

I do all three of these things to some extent. I can sometimes be impulsive and act without thinking. I can start thinking, thinking, thinking, analyzing,and double analyzing something that happened or might happen and get caught in a vicious loop, going over it again and again in my mind and never doing anything about it. Or, I can sometimes completely avoid thinking or doing anything at all about some troubling issue for a while, sometimes even for years, but it usually catches up with me in the end. And when it does, it's become a bit of crisis and can't be avoided any longer.
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Greyhound1 i took 10 5mg ea dexis, was such a stupid idea.. felt like that dude in the limitless movie in relation to the high and low.
Man, I'm glad they were only 5mg and now you realize it was a bad idea. Had they been 10-20mg you may not be around.

I hope you seek treatment and can find help that really improves your life.

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