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Old 11-29-04, 03:03 AM
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Lightbulb College and ADHD-How does everyone study?

I'm taking a break from studying right now! I had a chat with a prof about studying. He told me the way I studied was completely wrong!
So, I thought I'd pass on his wisdom. By the way, it works (for me)!

I used to read, take notes, make flash cards and try to understand and/or memorize.
Now, I read carefully (and understand what I'm reading), then, I go back and make flash cards. My prof gives practice tests, so then I take the practice test and what I got wrong I study more.
His "secret" to me was - understand the information so you could teach it to someone (if you had to). LOL - so, I talk to myself a lot more lately!!
Studying this way has cut down my studying time!
I wish I knew this when I was in undergrad. . . . .

What studying methods are best for you?
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Like you said, understanding the base principles does a lot more for me than remembering tiny details. I'm better off knowing, for instance, the system by which a language pluralizes certain terms, and noting similarities between the different types if there are any, than trying to memorize how to pluralize any single term. Same thing with conjugating verbs; learn the general rule, and apply it to whatever you're presented with.

Of course, I also have a photographic memory (albeit coupled with a horrible mental filing system which is likely due to my ADD), so I get by on quite a bit like that; I'm convinced it's the only reason I got to highschool as easily as I did. It used to freak teachers out when I'd write the answers as written in the book, when they'd watch me and were absolutely certain there was no way I was cheating.
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Re: College and ADHD-How does everyone study?

I have a few ways of retaining the info so I can learn.
1. Lectures. Just write it down word for word then review it later.
2. Tape the classes. I took a history class, I think?
First test, I barely made a C.
So I took a tape recorder and taped the lectures. I would replay the lectures when I was doing homework. I aced every test after that.
I still remember the teacher telling me how much of a turnaround I did. =D
3. My favorite way of learning is through interactive learning programs like an interactive DVD or interactive online computer program. Those things are awesome and I slay them. I learn and retain so much info from them. Plus if you make a mistake, it will tell you what you did wrong. You get automatic feedback. You can review as much as you want.

I love video games. My mind views those interactive discs\programs as video games. I can sit on a computer with one of those for 4-6 hours easily and it will hold my attention completely. I won't even notice the time.

What ways can I not learn?
1. I can't learn by merely listening to someone talk. I have to write it down. 70% of the info will go in 1 ear and out the other. Assuming it makes it to my ear first.
2. I can't learn by just reading a book. If that was the case, I would have mastered 10 languages. You know what happens when I read a book just to study? I fall asleep within 20 minutes. I'm dead serious. I will go to sleep each and every time. I haven't read a book in years for this very reason.


Only way I can make it through a book is if I have a list of questions. I will find the answers in the book. Other than that, pass me a pillow and let the dreaming commence.
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What about making your own self test....while righting one up u also reading up an absorbing info...I used to make a lil fun of it and make it multiple choice with goofy answers...so easy to tell the right one...but heh...It worked
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Not so sure I agree with your professor saying your way is "wrong." Everyone tends to learn either by hearing/seeing, doing, or a combination of these two. Yeah, there are fancy words for this, but I'll spare you (ha ha). Many of us learned from teachers who only said, "tell me again what i already told you." Then, when we got to college, we got a huge awakening (usually with our first very low mid term exams)...the professors didn't want us to just tell them what a concept was, they wanted us to be able to take the concept (already learned) and apply it to a completely different scenario. For me, I did several things to adapt. I made sure I came to class prepared--reading done, etc. I got permission in advance to audio record the lectures, when possible. This took the pressure off for me because I no longer had to stress about writing every single thing said that MIGHT be important. Then I actually relaxed enough to listen to what was being said. In my head, I visualized what was being said with where I recalled seeing that information in the text. Later, I found ways to pull those things together, listening to the audio when necessary, and began to think of other ways to use those theories in different situations. If it was a class where we were encouraged to participate/ask questions, I made a point of writing my questions down first, to make sure they couldn't already be easily answered by myself. I also spent more time concentrating on what other people were asking/discussing about the material, instead of just on waiting til it was my turn to contribute, often missing the rest of the discussion entirely. If there were study groups available, I got involved in them. I utilized all practice tests. I sought out people who took the course before me, to get a feel for what the professor's paper and/or exam expectations would be. The overwhelming volume of reading that happens? I took each assignment and divided the amount of pages by the amount of time I realistically had for completion before I had to write a response, etc. This told me how many pages per day I had to get through, so I wasn't cramming it all in at the last minute. Keep at it...take it one course at a time. If you qualify for additional test time in a less distracting environment, consider taking it...it can alleviate a great deal of the anxiety over length of time you have to complete each answer. I went all thru secondary school and my first degree program without a diagnosis. I was 28 and in the middle of my second degree program when I was diagnosed with adhd. My scores post diagnosis (with concerta and some modifications) show drastic improvement in my overall gpa. I wish you well!
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Talking This WAY sounds do-able to me too.

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Not so sure I agree with your professor saying your way is "wrong." Everyone tends to learn either by hearing/seeing, doing, or a combination of these two. Yeah, there are fancy words for this, but I'll spare you (ha ha). Many of us learned from teachers who only said, "tell me again what i already told you." Then, when we got to college, we got a huge awakening (usually with our first very low mid term exams)...the professors didn't want us to just tell them what a concept was, they wanted us to be able to take the concept (already learned) and apply it to a completely different scenario. For me, I did several things to adapt. I made sure I came to class prepared--reading done, etc. I got permission in advance to audio record the lectures, when possible. This took the pressure off for me because I no longer had to stress about writing every single thing said that MIGHT be important. Then I actually relaxed enough to listen to what was being said. In my head, I visualized what was being said with where I recalled seeing that information in the text. Later, I found ways to pull those things together, listening to the audio when necessary, and began to think of other ways to use those theories in different situations. If it was a class where we were encouraged to participate/ask questions, I made a point of writing my questions down first, to make sure they couldn't already be easily answered by myself. I also spent more time concentrating on what other people were asking/discussing about the material, instead of just on waiting til it was my turn to contribute, often missing the rest of the discussion entirely. If there were study groups available, I got involved in them. I utilized all practice tests. I sought out people who took the course before me, to get a feel for what the professor's paper and/or exam expectations would be. The overwhelming volume of reading that happens? I took each assignment and divided the amount of pages by the amount of time I realistically had for completion before I had to write a response, etc. This told me how many pages per day I had to get through, so I wasn't cramming it all in at the last minute. Keep at it...take it one course at a time. If you qualify for additional test time in a less distracting environment, consider taking it...it can alleviate a great deal of the anxiety over length of time you have to complete each answer. I went all thru secondary school and my first degree program without a diagnosis. I was 28 and in the middle of my second degree program when I was diagnosed with adhd. My scores post diagnosis (with concerta and some modifications) show drastic improvement in my overall gpa. I wish you well!




Just my .02

But this way sounds like it would work with me,,,,,,,also

the way I study for college as of now is:

1.I find a quit place to Read + re-read. *** 3rd floor Library for me***.

2.If the Teacher finds it important enough to write on the chalk board .Than it's important enough for me to write it down too.and take legable notes.(this works).

3.Take BIG written notes while I re-read chapter,for some reason this made college possible for me.

4. on BOOK notes*While reading--The same stuff/Questions I would write down for a practice test / hilight --is the stuff I write down....but re write it down in my own words////kinda helps not to look back at book,while writting made-up question.then I answer it myself in my own words.BAMB it worked
4 clsses later and 3 A+'s and 1 B+

5.Buddy up with someone more studious than you.(more ORGANIZED THAN US)
in my case it was a cute girl in a Wheelchair named Lisa and what a blessing she was / is.
My G/F dont like her but I'll get over that.

6.Always buy the study guide too.

7.Never and I meen never Cheat.

8.(test day)Sit in the front 2 rows as close to Teacher.(for some reason this worked for me dont know why).

9.Before you answer your 1st question, read over the WHOLE test 1st.

10.Very Important**** always If at all possible study in the same place you always study.


Thanks this was a good topic.
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Definitely sit in the front row! Otherwise, all you will be able to think about is how 50% of the class is nervously shaking their legs (my biggest pet peve), but if they're all behind you, you can focus on the test.

My preferred study method is to cut out as much reading and writing as possible. Learning the concepts is easy compared to reading and writing. I don't take notes in lecture (except for huge obvious things) and spend my time trying to absorb and understand while the teacher's talking. I figure, if I understand it while the teacher's talking, I don't have much of a need for notes anyway... and in the case that I did miss something, I can email the teacher or go to his office hours. As for reading the texts, my family doctor, who happens to be a genius and a dyslexic, taught me an invaluble trick -- test it out on yourself:

Give the chapter(s) a good skim. Look at the bold print, charts, colored boxes, and picture captions without reading the paragraphs. Close the book, and then ask yourself to recite everything in your head (or aloud) that you remember from the chapter. It will be enough to surprise you, I promise. Then, give it another good skim, looking at "just a few more things" this time. Ask yourself again, "what have I learned now so far?" After two or three good "skims," go ahead and read the chapter from start to finish, and you'll see that you knew almost everything you did reading the chapter, just from skimming effectively. I haven't read read a chapter this semester, and have a 4.0 so far! (let's hope that keeps up...)
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Re: College and ADHD-How does everyone study?

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Give the chapter(s) a good skim. Look at the bold print, charts, colored boxes, and picture captions without reading the paragraphs. Close the book, and then ask yourself to recite everything in your head (or aloud) that you remember from the chapter. It will be enough to surprise you, I promise. Then, give it another good skim, looking at "just a few more things" this time. Ask yourself again, "what have I learned now so far?"
I tried this method, but it assumes that you can recall what you just read or what you just skimmed. What about those of us, who, no matter how much we skim or read, can't remember what we just read? I can't seem to get enough material from short-term memory into long-term memory, no matter how many times I ask myself, "what did I just learn?" or no matter how many times I review or read or skim. It doesn't stick very well. In this context, we are equating learning = memory/recall. If you can't recall it, does that mean you didn't learn it?

To make matters worse, for those times that I am able to memorize and recall during an exam, I get flustered about all the material that I cannot recall -->makes me nervous --> do poorly on exam. Later when exam is over, the information that I couldn't recall --most of that information comes back.
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Re: College and ADHD-How does everyone study?

After graduating from a traditional two-year college, I'm finishing my undergrad online. I've found that time management and distractions are my biggest issues with studying.

I've tried to regulate both by studying at work (during overnights or long boring shifts with clients) because there is a clearly defined time frame (3-4 hours, whatever) and virtually no distractions.

I can handle the distraction of other people going about their business, but at home it's too tempting to want to play with the dogs, vacuum the floor, watch tv, work on a knitting project, make something to eat.

It hasn't solved all my problems, but it's made a big difference in my ability to get things done.
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Not so sure I agree with your professor saying your way is "wrong." Everyone tends to learn either by hearing/seeing, doing, or a combination of these two. Yeah, there are fancy words for this, but I'll spare you (ha ha).
There's some current research (most of it yet unpublished, but will be soon) that pretty much debunks this theory.

It turns out that, while people have learning preferences, they don't actually "learn better" in a particular mode.

The best way to learn is to study actively and to approach the material from as many different angles as possible.

Passive reading or rote memorization is one of the worst strategies.

The prof's advice in an early post about being able to teach something is excellent.
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It depends on what I am studying for. If its a test with lots of facts and such, I read and re-read and re=read I do this 12 or so times. They say 12 is a magic number. It has and has not helped in the past. Otherwise I find writing things down over and over works well also.
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okay i know all of this and am excellent at teaching myself and others, but how do you get your butt in the chair and keep it there?

i can sort of if i am scared and take a bunch of adderall
otherwise i am making a polymer to fix a floor, making my own inkjet ink
reading about surfactents, dispersal and suspension agents.

fixxing my still, designing a new truck for my skateboard and cutting it out of a block of aluminium, designing a dress with fur trim a drop back out of bias cut silk for my wife.
the new stuff with a touch of lycra, making chocolate from scratch, ie cocoa and cocoa butter, i blend a few types of cocoa...................


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yeah... how to study isn't a problem... how to not "not study" is the problem
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okay i know all of this and am excellent at teaching myself and others, but how do you get your butt in the chair and keep it there?

i can sort of if i am scared and take a bunch of adderall
otherwise i am making a polymer to fix a floor, making my own inkjet ink
reading about surfactents, dispersal and suspension agents.

fixxing my still, designing a new truck for my skateboard and cutting it out of a block of aluminium, designing a dress with fur trim a drop back out of bias cut silk for my wife.
the new stuff with a touch of lycra, making chocolate from scratch, ie cocoa and cocoa butter, i blend a few types of cocoa...................


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man your life seems way too interesting to try to stay seated. cool stuff!
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Re: College and ADHD-How does everyone study?

this is so me, except I get caught on things like cleaning and this new article I saw on FB on DNA sequencing. Maddening.
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