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Old 03-22-13, 01:04 PM
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Unhappy Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

I've read threads where people say to take ginko and meds or try games and all that, but has anyone actually noticed an improvement in their memory from doing these things?

I have the WORST memory, so much that I forget what someone JUST told me. I will hear them and respond to them, and ask them the same question that they just answered. They will tell me they just told me, then I will remember and feel like the biggest idiot. And it's not even like I wasn't paying attention (which is sometimes the case ) but when I actually retained it, and then lost it moments after is what concerns me most.

How can I keep information in my brain?

What has REALLY worked in having a good memory?
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

I'm not sure if Concerta has improved my memory. Perhaps it has but nothing outstanding. Maybe I should try the ginko, fish oil, brain games....
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

Fish oil was helpful for me for memory problems. So was reducing stress.
Turns out a lot of the stress was from untreated Anxiety disorder. Treating
it with an anti-depressant has helped me focus and remember better.
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

When it's a piece of information you need to remember, one thing that really works is making a conscious connection to something else. Connect to a mental picture, connect to a word, connect to ANYTHING.

For example, if you hear a person's name and you decide to remember it, find a feature of the person (like their big nose or their bald head or their gorgeous eyes) and mentally connect the name with the feature.

Or if you get a piece of information about a project you're working on, for example you could make a mental picture of the project with this new piece of information rubber-stamped onto it in bright blue.

Use vivid & memorable words, images, sounds, or ideas - those stick better than ordinary ones.

Even using images that are crazy or out-of-place can be very effective, because strange or surprising things are more memorable than normal or expected ones.

Don't use my examples literally - however your brain works, whatever mental connections you come up with, whatever you find works for you - but connection and association with something memorable is the key to this method.

There are books about it if you want to dig further, but really just doing that is a big start.

In fact, simply saying internally "I've decided to remember that" and making an effort, instead of letting it all slip past, is already a good start.
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

I have much better memory on my adderall. I think it's because I am actually listening.
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

DD has been doing working memory training using dual n-back (Brain Workshop) since last July. She had an improvement spike on the task in December, but to be honest, we haven't seen much real-world memory improvement.
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

Thanks for your responses so far...

My meds have actually helped me listen and become less distracted. That in itself has helped, but for some reason I can not recall the information when I need it. Or I forget all together that I heard the fact.

dvdnvwls - Thanks for your advice. I do most of those things already. I just can't actively do it for every conversation I have. It happens all day long, in every conversation. Much worse when I am under stress or pressure.

Lunacie - Thank you for reminding me that stress/anxiety causes poor memory. Maybe I should learn more relaxation techniques. I know I tend to have a better day when I do yoga. Hmmmmmmmmm

Maybe I should try meditation
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

I use memory devices to remember ppl's names, sequences of numbers, and beat the high score in Simon.
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

So far brain training games have only made me get better at brain training games.
I remember when I was on 20mg 2x a day. My memory was just astounding. I actually began seeing images as memories when I remembered things, not just remembered words. I have always had a visual memory but it was more of a long term thing. This was like remembering if I locked the door or turned the stove off. Now my memory is just auditory.

Meds do work as long as you take meds.

I have just accepted the fact that I will constantly have to do revision for everything, forever.

I still do the best I can to help my memory. I brain train, take fish oil, meds, exercise, try and eat healthy and do a lot of repetitive reading.
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

lumosity / dual n back...etc...... do work a bit ...... but you gotta devote 5-10mins a day to them for long term......

neuro-elasticity

that associations stuff kinda works....... you know...figure out of your visual, audial, kinesthetic and give yourself cues and assocciations that your repeat which makes stuff stick.....bit'o'work but.......
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

LONG POST SO BE PATIENT
Tend to agree that memory abilities (EFFICIENT remembering of facts in the short and long term) can be improved by using specialist memory techniques of one form or another). I think that if you have adhd or in general wanted to improve your natural memory abilities then you should spend some time researching mnemonic techniques (associations etc. mentioned in previous posts on this thread). These techniques can be found referred to in any undergraduate Psychology book (good scientific basis) but there are authors that specialise in this field such as Tony Buzan (mind mapping etc.) and Dominic O' Brien which would be a good place to start.
The reason why I think these techniques are important are due to my own personal experiences. For instance, the basis of my own study technique for as long as I can remember involved reading over and over again (poor reading compehension and before I knew anything about Adhd and poor working memoory) with the hope that SOME information tended to stick and hopefully enough to pass a test. This knowledge in my case would easily be forgotten in the long term. I spent a lot of years studying Physics and for instance a nice bit of knowledge to have may be something simple (for a Physics student!) such as the planets of the solar system and the order of them in distance from the sun. I'd probably seen this information not only in the Physics degree pre-requisite work but like everyone with formal schooling would have seen this information probably from the earliest years of school, on tv etc.
NOW, I remember about 8 years or so ago after looking at ways to improve my studying abilities (reached a ceiling about halfway through degree) that I discovered a proponent of these techniques called Tony Buzan who had a 5 minute slot in a university program on British TV. I sent off for some audio tapes of his at the time which were all about self improvement (improved memory etc). One of the tapes spoke about mnemonic techniques which were known to have been used back in ancient Roman/Greek times by the scholars of the day but have never really been used in formal schooling which generally uses rote learning.
ANYWAY, the thing is one of the tapes goes into a little story about how to learn the planets of the solar system in order. So I'm in my car listening to this and I remembered all the planets 1st time. After a week, after a month, after a year I still remembered this albeit isolated bit of information that I thought would previously have been forgotten (or not remembered as well in the first place).
The thing is, before this I could say that although I'd studied some Physics up to 2nd year undergraduate level, that if someone asked me before then anything about the solar system I WOULD NOT HAVE HAD A CLUE which planet was nearest to the sun, which of the planets was next furthest out from the earth et. etc. EVEN NOW I can remember easily without recourse to any notes or even any hesitation that the planets of the solar system orbit the Sun, that the planets in order out from the sun are the four small rocky planets Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars. Then, the large gaseous planets Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune, followed by the the smaller rocky/icy planet Pluto (now been downgraded from a planet apparently!). I could also from memory mention how many moons certain planets have, the approximate relative sizes of them and with effort could add much more information if I needed to USING THIS TECHNIQUE THAT NO TEACHER HAD EVER SHOWN ME. The point of this is that these techniques in my opinion allowed me to learn something efficiently. To learn first the concept of ORDERING/SEQUENCING information AND to use that as a basis for further learning. After this of course I looked further into these techniques and was obviously intrigued. I think having been diagnosed with adhd in adulthood like myself, I have found that these techniques would have been helpful to me in my past, and I would say that doing at least some research around this is recommended even just for a few basic techniques to improve your confidence. I have mentioned in a previous post that Tony Buzan hs written 3 books in his 'Mind Maps for Kids' series that give some brilliant study tips for kids age 7 and up (and adults too) that I will be buying for all kids in my family. I must admit that these techniques alongside mind mapping etc. all still require motivation, effort and practice as if they came naturally everyone would know how to do them. If you can find it there are a few videos on youtube about Tony Buzan one of which telling his 'planets' story in a lecture to schoolkids at the Royal Albert Hall (although the picture quality is poor and the videos cut off at the end). Also a good read is Joshua Foers book called 'Moonwalking with Einstein' which takes a look at the world of modern day memory champions.
By the way had to retype whole message as didn't save properly so none of these techniques seem to cure Adhd behaviours.
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

First, you need to know if you really have some kind of cognitive or memory impairment, otherwise just forget about it :P

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Raise your hand if that post was way too long for you =/

Spinach... like seriously... whenever I eat Spinach I remember like, everything.
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Re: Desperate!! Has anyone actually IMPROVED your memory??

Adduce,

Do us a favor ... I write long posts sometimes, but I go out of my way to create extra spacing between paragraphs ...

So I'll just down as I just did by hitting the return bar twice ....

But do us a favor if you would and repost with good spacing ...

We can read posts like yours for books because we unconsciously place our finger at the various lines ... But without spacing, we have trouble moving from the end of one line to the next line ...

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