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Re: What will it take? Food addiction!

My dear fuzzy- I have seen your struggles and heard your pain, you need medication. It doesnt matter what you think your old doctors will think of you, you have to try for fuzzlings sake to do it.
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Re: What will it take? Food addiction!

Yes!
also in the meantime, is there a specialist you could see about specific eating disorders?
I had said "nutritionist"; but perhaps you can find even better help?
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Re: What will it take? Food addiction!

Have you considered getting professional help somehow? I don't even know what kinds of things are open to you in your country.

I feel out of control. I can't stop myself. It makes me feel stupid and angry cause I darned well know I should.
Yet here I am day after day over gorging myself. I can't get enough, and I obsess over it...hours on end I'll sit there in the middle of the night while everything's closed going over and over in my head what I'm going to eat the next day.

I'm out of control. And I don't think people take that as serious as I mean it. I truly am out of control. My last therapist suggested it was all part of me grieving my mom's passing...well...DUH! but how does knowing that fact help 1 stinking bit? lol grrrr

I'm also afraid though that there is nothing anyone can do for me. I'm responsible for caring for my own self...so I'm screwed. /sigh

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I'm super hungry. I think after a group I just started ends today, I'm going to go to a place in my town that makes deep friend cheeseburgers. I should just do 1 or 2. But no...it takes 4 or 5 of them to fill my fat-a**.
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I could start smoking again. That would solve this food problem for sure.
No no! Now don't make me swim all the way over there just so I can scold your stinking thinking young woman!

This line of thought is no good. No good at all. I hence for BANISH it! I'm taking it off yours hands for you and will take it to a dumpster far far away to be thrown out where it can never bother you again!

Ideas like this are the kind of dangerous thing that can lead you to having a food addiction AND be an active smoker again. Imagine how miserable you feel right now because of the weight gain (I'm right there with you. I keep gaining weight too and and it's absolutely nasty stuff)...now try to think of going through all this while smoking. Ick The coughing and gasping and gagging and choking and cravings and painful throats.
NOPE! Not for me!!

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No no! Now don't make me swim all the way over there just so I can scold your stinking thinking young woman!

This line of thought is no good. No good at all. I hence for BANISH it! I'm taking it off yours hands for you and will take it to a dumpster far far away to be thrown out where it can never bother you again!

Ideas like this are the kind of dangerous thing that can lead you to having a food addiction AND be an active smoker again. Imagine how miserable you feel right now because of the weight gain (I'm right there with you. I keep gaining weight too and and it's absolutely nasty stuff)...now try to think of going through all this while smoking. Ick The coughing and gasping and gagging and choking and cravings and painful throats.
NOPE! Not for me!!

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Psycho I'm not planning to start smoking again. I don't even have any cravings anymore. Sorry, I didn't mean to alarm you. I just meant that smoking in some ways made my life easier. I had an outlet to blow off steam, something to help me relax. Oh..and I was definitely much much slimmer...maybe even healthier..

I'm not going to start smoking again. I know the first cigarette now would make me just sick. The second would probably be brilliant but I never ever wanting to have to go through quitting smoking again. That wasn't fun. At all.

I wonder if I need to approach quitting junk food the same way as smoking. I'm trying to remember what I did. I vaped for a few weeks but there's no equivalent to food..maybe eating carrots? Or apples? I like apples so that might work...

And then I started working out like crazy to combat the insane restlessness that hit me. I walked miles every day, went swimming, exercised at home, okayed squash...and then sprained my ankle and was on crutches for 3 months...
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Have you considered getting professional help somehow? I don't even know what kinds of things are open to you in your country.

I feel out of control. I can't stop myself. It makes me feel stupid and angry cause I darned well know I should.
Yet here I am day after day over gorging myself. I can't get enough, and I obsess over it...hours on end I'll sit there in the middle of the night while everything's closed going over and over in my head what I'm going to eat the next day.

I'm out of control. And I don't think people take that as serious as I mean it. I truly am out of control. My last therapist suggested it was all part of me grieving my mom's passing...well...DUH! but how does knowing that fact help 1 stinking bit? lol grrrr

I'm also afraid though that there is nothing anyone can do for me. I'm responsible for caring for my own self...so I'm screwed. /sigh

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I'm super hungry. I think after a group I just started ends today, I'm going to go to a place in my town that makes deep friend cheeseburgers. I should just do 1 or 2. But no...it takes 4 or 5 of them to fill my fat-a**.

I can so relate..especially to.making plans to binge even while.om.berating myself about eating too much junk.

Maybe I need professional help but I really don't want it. I think I could do with.some really intensive CBT but that is neither available nor do I have the time for it.

Otherwise I visit try and get an appointment with my psychiatrists but apart from prescribing meds they are useless.

I feel so out of control as well. I hate that feeling. It's scary.
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This is sort of part of my personal theory that addiction is the "umbrella disease" and manifestations of it are the symptoms. For me it was alcohol and for you its food.
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Fuzzy, I have you ever done well with or tried total elimination- similar to abstinence (from alcohol or other problem substances)? I ask that because 12 step crap aside I had to learn that I just cant ever have certain things. Since my surgery I have an extreme reaction to most sugars about 20grams in total is my max. All artificial sugars for sure but even simple ones like cane or honey. That didnt stop me and still doesnt always. I had to come to accept that ice cream, cookies, high fat/sweet carby stuff would make me sick (for me thats sweats, heart racing, dizziness, wanting to throw up, sometimes actually throwing up). Just last week I had a huge slice of cheese cake at a party. I should have had a sliver, and I knew better but my eyes were bigger than my stomach and I had a big slice. 15 minutes later I was laid out, sweats, feeling sick, heart racing-I ended up leaving the party early. Its been 10 years since that surgery and 90% of the time I steer clear of most of it- even cereals that claim to have no sugar, I read the labels and its slipped in there in the secret food lobbying language- but every now and then I forget the abstinence part and just lose it. I get right back on the wagon though.

With alcohol- I cant EVER have it again. Prior to getting sober, I tried many ways to control it and it always ended up the same- a period of abstinence, small amounts always leading to overindulgence and then in a matter of days it was all day long all night long solid drinking. At that point it wasnt fun anymore and I was getting sick. I know before my surgery I would eat the wrong things knowing they would affect my body, mood and weight negatively, but would still do it- and the guilt and shame of giving in was too much and caused the same thing to happen all over again.

Yes, I use a 12 step program to help me with the alcohol and yes, I had surgery for the initial weight problem but it wasnt a cure, its a tool. Losing the weight did nothing for my eating habits. I am not able to eat alot at one sitting but I could easily eat the wrong stuff in small amounts and be back where I started.

I guess I am saying that since you posted this in addiction, perhaps you look at it as that. If its carbs and sugar than its a sugar addiction. Abstinence means not having any of the offending substance or food, and you will feel your own set of withdrawals. If you can make it through that the rest can be changed,
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Fuzzy, I have you ever done well with or tried total elimination- similar to abstinence (from alcohol or other problem substances)? I ask that because 12 step crap aside I had to learn that I just cant ever have certain things. Since my surgery I have an extreme reaction to most sugars about 20grams in total is my max. All artificial sugars for sure but even simple ones like cane or honey. That didnt stop me and still doesnt always. I had to come to accept that ice cream, cookies, high fat/sweet carby stuff would make me sick (for me thats sweats, heart racing, dizziness, wanting to throw up, sometimes actually throwing up). Just last week I had a huge slice of cheese cake at a party. I should have had a sliver, and I knew better but my eyes were bigger than my stomach and I had a big slice. 15 minutes later I was laid out, sweats, feeling sick, heart racing-I ended up leaving the party early. Its been 10 years since that surgery and 90% of the time I steer clear of most of it- even cereals that claim to have no sugar, I read the labels and its slipped in there in the secret food lobbying language- but every now and then I forget the abstinence part and just lose it. I get right back on the wagon though.

With alcohol- I cant EVER have it again. Prior to getting sober, I tried many ways to control it and it always ended up the same- a period of abstinence, small amounts always leading to overindulgence and then in a matter of days it was all day long all night long solid drinking. At that point it wasnt fun anymore and I was getting sick. I know before my surgery I would eat the wrong things knowing they would affect my body, mood and weight negatively, but would still do it- and the guilt and shame of giving in was too much and caused the same thing to happen all over again.

Yes, I use a 12 step program to help me with the alcohol and yes, I had surgery for the initial weight problem but it wasnt a cure, its a tool. Losing the weight did nothing for my eating habits. I am not able to eat alot at one sitting but I could easily eat the wrong stuff in small amounts and be back where I started.

I guess I am saying that since you posted this in addiction, perhaps you look at it as that. If its carbs and sugar than its a sugar addiction. Abstinence means not having any of the offending substance or food, and you will feel your own set of withdrawals. If you can make it through that the rest can be changed,
Just some food for thought. (pardon the pun)
Abstinence works a million times better with me. I can't moderate but I can abstain if the motivation is strong enough. I didn't eat chocolates for 8 years and that wasn't difficult at all.

I also used to fast quite frequently, which again wasn't too difficult except for the increased brain fog.

I gave up added sugar this month and did fairly well with it except for two days where I binged on choc biscuits and just know. Turns out having tons to do, being too tired for any self control and having biscuits at home is not a winning combination. But I knew that..

I think it was you who suggested couch to 5k isn't it? I've started doing that now and it's brilliant. I've only gone for 3 runs but I haven't missed any so far and I'm actually really enjoying it. I don't know how to continue with them once I return to work though..
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Hi Fuzz, Whether it is an addiction or a strong preference for you I don't know and you'll have to evaluate. In addition to addiction/preference in your evaluation you should include a symptom of an underlying condition....just to be thorough. Please let me know if you can't think of any that may apply. Sincerely, Tom

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Trying very hard to resist the chocolate biscuits in the cupboard so instead I had 6 slices of bread with stuff. 6!!!

I thought I could approach this the way I approached quitting smoking but somehow I'm not approaching anything at all.

I wanted to tell the gp yesterday but couldn't get myself to. I did mention my eating habits have become horrible and asked if I could have a general check up done. She didn't ask me any further questions but did agree to a blood test.

How did I quit smoking? I didn't. For about 3 weeks after my quit date I continues smoking. Then I started vaping. For about 2 weeks. Then we went on holiday with my parents who didn't know I smoked so I couldn't anyway. After that I exercised like crazy whenever I got restless. Is there anyway I can translate this to dealing with my food addiction?

It seems so doable now. Now that I'm feeling sick from eating 6 huge slices of bread. I always wake up with the best of intentions but they never last long. I don't even need to get hungry. I just need to not feel sick to start binge eating.

My BMI has actually crossed 30. I'm officially obese now.
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