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Re: All disease is preventable

So - the knowledge structure collapses (at wisdom) into a single connected structure of pointers - the big picture.
Once the big picture forms - we can 'work out' the answer to all questions - since imagining within a big picture structure reports back possibilities which're constrained to the rest.

Imagination becomes useful.

Instead of thinking of a departure from the planet, instead of dreaming of autonomous cars (have any of you seen the potholes in our roads?), instead of dreaming of lab grown cows to satisfy human hunger - imagination switches from these ridiculous concerns - into consistent with all available information.

We're not leaving this planet, we don't need a car, vegetables are enough.

Whether nonADDer or ADDer - the story is the same.

We're not leaving this planet, we don't need a car, vegetables are enough.
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Extending far beyond classical disease - we also gain the eyes to see that we must not pollute the planet, use any unsustainable process and produce toxic food products - each of which, in its own way, contributes to killing us (individually and as a species) off.
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Re: All disease is preventable

--- Conclusion ---
http://youtubeonrepeat.com/watch/?v=l_K1NqCpmQI

In simple language.

"There is only 1 way of life and that's your own.
You are able to locate it - as soon as the primitive reward system is removed. In the absence of pull to money and power, the higher reward system appears."

"The higher reward system represents the development of personal unique quality with the help of others - giving rise to diversity. This represents the mechanism of operation of evolution - as the integration of individual into species - which becomes (the derivation of exponential) MORE (^2) than the sum of the parts."

"Mathematics works because it's founded on the exact same principles as evolution - evolution operates to a pattern which derives mathematics. The mathematician isn't God - God provides mathematics - which mathematicians then go on to believe they're God through chaining together usage of its operation in formulae."
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ADDers are uniquely shaped towards personal quality acquisition (to learn) - the underlying mechanism is described by Markram and Markram and represents a cortical mechanism for deriving more information from the sensory realm. This information requires to be handled (attention surfeit disorder) and so we're consequently incapable of striving towards money and power because our mind is otherwise occupied.
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--- Conclusion ---
http://youtubeonrepeat.com/watch/?v=l_K1NqCpmQI

In simple language.

"There is only 1 way of life and that's your own.
You are able to locate it - as soon as the primitive reward system is removed. In the absence of pull to money and power, the higher reward system appears."

"The higher reward system represents the development of personal unique quality with the help of others - giving rise to diversity. This represents the mechanism of operation of evolution - as the integration of individual into species - which becomes (the derivation of exponential) MORE (^2) than the sum of the parts."

"Mathematics works because it's founded on the exact same principles as evolution - evolution operates to a pattern which derives mathematics. The mathematician isn't God - God provides mathematics - which mathematicians then go on to believe they're God through chaining together usage of its operation in formulae."

Okay, if we agree that this premise is possible, perhaps even likely . . .

how . . . how does one change every person's reward system from what

they are used to, what they grew up with, what everyone else uses . . .

to the 'higher reward system' of being altruistic?
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It is a very large and long topic that changes about.

Certainly not the first of The Series.
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Okay, if we agree that this premise is possible, perhaps even likely . . .

how . . . how does one change every person's reward system from what

they are used to, what they grew up with, what everyone else uses . . .

to the 'higher reward system' of being altruistic?

Reward reinforce competition - current society
Driven by Greed



Reward reinforce collaboration - a flat-structured world without money

Driven by the desire to be the best that one can be


How would one develop a 'quality-centric' world in a world in which money/power rule ?
Perhaps - would only work if one were to get people who had enough money to survive and so can dedicate mental resources to making themselves better in context of all others.


It isn't human to chase money - one arrives at a point where one realises that there's nothing that one wants that money can buy.
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It is a very large and long topic that changes about.

Certainly not the first of The Series.

There is only 1 idea which underlies mind.
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Categorically - all that's wrong with ADDers - is that there's a new reward system in place which can not pay attention to behaviours driven by greed (power acquisition) - this is on account of increased information upload to our mind/brain which demands organisation. The mechanism has been described sufficiently in Intense World Theory.


What more is there to say ? The emergence of ADDers has long since been described - and simply represents where man moves to - as soon as the Theory of Theory of Everything is revealed and understood on a global level - whereby the quest for the understanding of (human) context ends.


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Back to development

TNFa -> <- TGF series
...........|
...........^
...........|
......cortisol

So

growth -> <- differentiation
growth ->|
growth ->^
growth ->|
grow aerobic respiration

ectoderm -> mesoderm <- endoderm
Mesoderm - connective tissue operating alongside integrin family.

Integrin triggered differentiation

So - the goal is completion in development ie to complete growth (TNFa) and differentiation (TGFB) and to settle into a life of not needing to call on glucocorticoid and mineralocorticoid ie physiological maintenance.

Relationship between cortisol and mitochondria
Mitochondria happiest when blood glucose levels remain constant ... ... 'Hyperglycemia-induced overproduction of superoxide is the causal link between high glucose and the pathways responsible for hyperglycemic damage.'

You might want to look at this model:
We now know that vagal modulation of the spleen is necessary to downregulate its production of TNF a, so a direct pathway from cortisol to TNF a might be too simplistic.


Any discussion of cortisol also does need to account for the fact that it is vitally important to getting us out of bed, and supporting the metabolism required for vigorous exercise (which as we know is good for our health), though in that case the cortisol is preventing hypoglycaemia. It is possible to be overly negative about cortisol.
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Categorically - all that's wrong with ADDers - is that there's a new reward system in place which can not pay attention to behaviours driven by greed (power acquisition) - this is on account of increased information upload to our mind/brain which demands organisation. The mechanism has been described sufficiently in Intense World Theory.


What more is there to say ? The emergence of ADDers has long since been described - and simply represents where man moves to - as soon as the Theory of Theory of Everything is revealed and understood on a global level - whereby the quest for the understanding of (human) context ends.

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Really it is much simpler than that- we have clear evidence of sympathetic dominance in ADHD, and we also clearly know that high SNS tone drives (through the locus coeruleus) enhanced vigilance and awareness of threat.

The mechanisms causing that high SNS tone are more complex, but they are variants of normal human physiology in a stressed state.

In fact the inattention in ADHD has little to do with an alteration in the "reward system" and much more to do with inreased perceptin of threat coupled with decreased capacity for sensory filtering. Then there is also the issue of inattention caused by orthostatic intolerance (low blood pressure to the brain when sitting up).

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Exactly...more to follow when on keyboard.


Heightened sensory sensitivity


Too much information


Stress


SNS up


PNS overcome no relaxation


Cortisol resistance



Interleukin1 and tnfa lose regulation by cortisol
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Re: All disease is preventable

I believe a better system of our species living on planet Earth is not only necessary, but the only way we can survive on Earth as a species. It's necessary to change a lot. But we will never be disease-free. That's physically impossible. We have to control our population, that is a given. We have to clean up the planet and modify our way of living pretty radically. One thing we are dealing with a lot right now is that overpopulation is driving people mad. That and the unbelievable pressure of living under conditions which are increasingly stressful and unhealthy (both physically and mentally), not to mention downright dangerous. Especially in the USA, I believe. Our country, unfortunately, is now an example to the world of what shouldn't ever happen. It could be turned around...but how? And will it happen in time? When is the point of no return as far as the road to extinction? And if we don't change, maybe a planet without any living human beings might be a good thing. Just some thoughts in the night.
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Back to a computer.

Thanks -excellent find - the vagal stimulation device.

First - people with their crazy interventions.
TNFa and friends have long been known to be involved in sepsis.
And they will work.
However - they're far from clean - and they cost a fortune.
They are inelegant.


Note - neat connection between cytokine storm (looked at previously wrt vaccines) and sepsis



Naturally PNS (relaxation) is the solution - not artificially inducing relaxation.

The key here would be to work out with chronic SNS activation + chronic stress hormone production result in re:PNS.

So - we know the model that increased neuro endocrine nt / ligand (hormone) -> lead -> increaed resistance (down reg receptors) eg Cohen, 2012, PNAS.

What's the consequence on PNS if chronic SNS / stress hormone production occurs ?

Well - we kinda know that if (KD#2) informational sensitivity is exposed to too much information (the nerve switches off if exposed to too much or too little info that it 'deletes') ... ... and consistent with KD#1 we must either be observing decreased vagal tone or increasing vagal resistance - don't know which.

The net consequence of being in a heightened SNS state appears to be a decreased PNS state.

Simply then - how to solve ?

What is the fundamental aetiological problem associated with all of man's problems ?

The incapacity to develop mind (of morality) in context of a species of mind (of morality) - the prime directive as of the speciation event of man (some 40000 years ago) ... ... we are in the midst of a second emergent event - in which we're observing the emergence of informational sensitivity (mechanism provided) - in which we are absolutely required to be left alone.

Standard epidemiological research shows that there's an inverted U shaped curve - representing positive outcome ie increase in wellbeing with exposure - and loss of positive outcome if we overdo it.

This is the all criticial central axis of medicine and represents the eustress / distress boundary - only the individual can determine where this line exists.

Unfortunately EVEN the individual can not determine where the line exists if the individual furnishes the primitive reward system ie tries to win instead of better self - because the individual takes 'things' to far.

So - that's really all there is to it.

A specification of man which defines the point to mind - which corrects all downstream problems.

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