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Re: Working Memory Training -- Plasticity

The best working memory training I ever found was going to college.
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The only thing that comes to mind atm is that thing with LUMINOSITY, I forget exactly if they were fined or something but they were investigated and found that there was little to no science to back up their claims and the way they advertised their product and services so they got in trouble. Doesnt seem to matter though because everytime I listen to NPR I hear about the same claims when they sponsor a segment.
Exactly. I've heard the same ads and the same information about their claims being unsubstantiated. But, having read some more about the kinds of results others have documented, published by the finest universities in the world, I'm hopeful there's a chance we may, in fact, be able to increase our WM and use those improvements across the board.

Scientists do know that certain chemicals enhance brain function on the neuronal level. There's widespread agreement on that. We know that we can isolate and exercise, by repeated use, specific parts of our brains. It is logical they would somehow "learn" to adapt or adjust to the increased load. Our bodies do that all the time.

The brain is pretty smart! Why couldn't it figure out that an area under constant strain-for an hour a day, say, during WM training-needs some reinforcements, a boost of additional synapses and axons to help carry the load? I kind of think it can and we're on the verge of a breakthrough in understanding and improving our powers of cognition.
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Re: Working Memory Training -- Plasticity

I notice doing worse on "Concentration" games over time during one sitting. I do better the first few games I play and then my brain seems to poop out if do more. Fascinating.
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I notice doing worse on "Concentration" games over time during one sitting. I do better the first few games I play and then my brain seems to poop out if do more. Fascinating.
I'm like this with most games, and really anything I do.

At first it's interesting and I get really involved and do well enough to continue.

Then I get frustrated because I'm not improving quickly enough. *sigh*
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Re: Working Memory Training -- Plasticity

I am going to try this and I'll let you know how it goes.
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Re: Working Memory Training -- Plasticity

Interestingly, (because it should be obvious) I see a connection between my impulsive drive to hurry through the game (ADHD) the lack of spending enough time on each figure to allow it to sink in, and doing poorly. Or, IOW, inattentiveness whatever is causing it, is at least a component in my WM problems. I've got to direct and hold my attention long enough first on each "turning over" of the flap, which reveals what's on the other side, to have a shot a recalling it. If I don't do that, I can't expect to be able to match it. DUH!! I know, but if I wasn't getting help for my ADHD, I wouldn't have noticed this.

Taking my eye off the tennis ball before striking it, sabotages my best effort to get it over the net. If I fail to get it over the net, I lose. That simple.
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Re: Working Memory Training -- Plasticity

The more reading I do, the more I find research that supports the principle that exercising WM pays dividends. They are fine tuning experiments to understand precisely what is happening, how much time is needed per day practicing, how often each week and for how many weeks and they are examining which questions are relevant.
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Re: Working Memory Training -- Plasticity

I can play solitaire virtually forever. "Concentration" exhausts me in minutes. I used to play ball. Whenever I found an exercise or type of weight lifting getting under my skin, I learned to focus on it. It wasn't what I enjoyed or what kind of work-out that didn't bother me that needed improvement, as much as those that revealed weaknesses. This "Concentration' game gets on my nerves and it always did. Never put 2 plus 2 together, before. I've got my work cut out for me.
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I can play solitaire virtually forever. "Concentration" exhausts me in minutes. I used to play ball. Whenever I found an exercise or type of weight lifting getting under my skin, I learned to focus on it. It wasn't what I enjoyed or what kind of work-out that didn't bother me that needed improvement, as much as those that revealed weaknesses. This "Concentration' game gets on my nerves and it always did. Never put 2 plus 2 together, before. I've got my work cut out for me.

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Re: Working Memory Training -- Plasticity

I used to play spider solitaire for hours. It would drive me absolutely crazy because I thought I was easting time doing something that's mildly amusing at beat rather than doing something that's useful or lots of fun but requires me to shift my attention.

As far as I know working memory is fixed to either 4 or 7 items at a time (I've seen both). You can't really increase that but you can learn more efficient ways of chunking: grouping things so they form one item. That's a skill that might be transferable in terms of memorising different types of lists but if it would also help while doing completely different tasks that require wm (eg arithmetic) im not sure. From what I've learnt no it wouldn't.

I wonder if working memory can be improved to 4 (or 7) items if you have adhd.
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I wonder if working memory can be improved to 4 (or 7) items if you have adhd.
I think so and possibly more if all those items are shiny, very interesting or memorable.
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