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Old 05-20-12, 10:06 PM
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Re: Donít let disability excuse worker misconduct( Article)

Well, she clearly screwed herself by telling them from the outset that her disability wasn't a disability at all, as it didn't impair her in any way. In that case, forget my earlier comments.
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Re: Donít let disability excuse worker misconduct( Article)

I guess that's the problem. People with impairments are afraid to disclose because they don't want to be viewed as weak or incapable or demanding special treatment. Those without impairments are happy to disclose because then they're a token disability hire to whom the employer has to provide nothing.

It seems that people with diagnoses/disabilities are really not well educated on their rights and responsibilities. Up to and including that when you're at at-will employee, you can be fired for any reason--and there are plenty of reasons an employer can find outside your disability, if it comes down to it. She seemed to think she was somehow "unfireable" just because she had ADHD. And thankfully, that's not how this **** works.
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I guess that's the problem. People with impairments are afraid to disclose because they don't want to be viewed as weak or incapable or demanding special treatment. Those without impairments are happy to disclose because then they're a token disability hire to whom the employer has to provide nothing.

It seems that people with diagnoses/disabilities are really not well educated on their rights and responsibilities. Up to and including that when you're at at-will employee, you can be fired for any reason--and there are plenty of reasons an employer can find outside your disability, if it comes down to it. She seemed to think she was somehow "unfireable" just because she had ADHD. And thankfully, that's not how this **** works.
really good point trish.
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I have my two cents to add to this (no pun intended). Im not sure how many of you who spoke so negatively of this woman, know what it is like to find whatever job you can get. Also to assume that she has the financial resources to find legal advice seems inappropriate as well. Allot of these comments were downright mean and make me wonder if the respondents actually have ADD or are one of those who were given a diagnosis because they wanted one.

When I was diagnosed at 31 with ADD, I tell my prospective employers, because . 1) They will know before they hire me, what kind of challenges they will have to deal with, and weather or not it is something they are wiling to compromise on 2) It helps me to not set myself up for failure. Having a disability isnt a "try harder" kind of thing, and when you are doing your best and it still doesnt cut it...it really makes wanting to live life difficult.

I feel they should have given her a probationary period. If it worked it worked, if not, then that is that. At least she wouldnt be under the assumption that the employer would be wililng to work with her.

Also, I dont know how many of you have had perfect workplace social interactions, but i have often heard many different things from different co-workers regarding how things should be done. If you bring it up to your supervisor your seen as belligerent....this was before I even knew I had ADD.

So to all of you who are so critical of this woman and you dont even know her, I insist that you stop being so mean. This place is supposed to be supportive, and being made to feel like an idiot if you happen to relate to this woman, in a place that is supposed to be emotionally safe, is not appropriate conduct.
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I have my two cents to add to this (no pun intended). Im not sure how many of you who spoke so negatively of this woman, know what it is like to find whatever job you can get. Also to assume that she has the financial resources to find legal advice seems inappropriate as well. Allot of these comments were downright mean and make me wonder if the respondents actually have ADD or are one of those who were given a diagnosis because they wanted one.
FYI this thread is like 3 years old.
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When I was diagnosed at 31 with ADD, I tell my prospective employers, because . 1) They will know before they hire me, what kind of challenges they will have to deal with, and weather or not it is something they are wiling to compromise on 2) It helps me to not set myself up for failure. Having a disability isnt a "try harder" kind of thing, and when you are doing your best and it still doesnt cut it...it really makes wanting to live life difficult.
That might work out for you but the sad reality is, sharing your dx with an employer backfires more often than it helps. It gives them fuel to to not hire you or fire you and they can easily come up with an excuse to do it that doesnt seem like its because of your disability.

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I feel they should have given her a probationary period. If it worked it worked, if not, then that is that. At least she wouldnt be under the assumption that the employer would be wililng to work with her.
I agree with you but the reality is, many employers can say they would be willing to work with someone and decide after the fact that its too much of a risk.

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I can see how it could seem like mean, but to others it can seem like being realistic.
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Re: Donít let disability excuse worker misconduct( Article)

I could say a few things here. I'll say one thing cause I've learnt it the hard way.

Never tell unless you absolutely have to a perspective employer of your condition. Also in relation to work, don't give them a reason to sack you for what this woman did. ADD just can't be an excuse.
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Re: Donít let disability excuse worker misconduct( Article)

I know the thread is 3 years old...but...the topic is timeless . I have held jobs longer now that I admit I have ADD, and let my employer know that my symptoms are acting up...then before I was diagnosed and everyone just wondered what the (*&^ was wrong with me. Before I was diagnosed I would end up this huge disappointment because "they had such big plans for me". I think because my mistakes and inconsistencies are no longer viewed as careless. I dont have my looks or being "one of the guys" to fall back on, so really honesty is all I have to get me through.
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Re: Donít let disability excuse worker misconduct( Article)

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I could say a few things here. I'll say one thing cause I've learnt it the hard way.

Never tell unless you absolutely have to a perspective employer of your condition. Also in relation to work, don't give them a reason to sack you for what this woman did. ADD just can't be an excuse.
I had an employer mock me after I disclosed my ADHD!!! I screwed something up due to inattentiveness (it was a missed detail in an invoice) and he said (mockingly), "I couldn't help it, it was my ADHD!" I wasn't on medication at the time. I ended up leaving the job, because the employer was encouraging me to flake on school in order to put in more hours at my job. In my classic style (at the time), I left a letter of resignation on the front customer counter and never returned!!!

Oh GAWD, I've come a long way since then!! Therapy, self-help, recovery, you name it!!

Back then, I couldn't stand most jobs. It was a combination of bad attitude and ADHD-symptoms. Curiously, the jobs I did succeed at were the ones where my bosses had a bit of a "disorganized" streak as well I got along very well with these types of "energetic" people; as you may know, "politics" goes a long way in keeping your job!!
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Re: Donít let disability excuse worker misconduct( Article)

I wrote a post response, but think it was inadvertently lost before I could submit it for review and posting. If it did go through and I am unable to tell, due to the requirements of moderation, please feel free to delete this post.

I realize this is a very old thread, but I wanted to add to what I consider an important (and 'timeless' as one poster described) topic/issue. In the last several years I have noticed employment applications have a question on whether the applicant has a disability, and if accommodations are required for claimed disability. There is an accompanying list of medical and psychiatric conditions to choose from and a field to enter a condition not on the list. I am uncertain if applicants are required to answer the question, yet whether answered or not could create a difficult dilemma.

Of course I, like I imagine the majority of people, prefer honesty, however IF one is honest with a person(s) or institution (company) who is not operating from a point of honesty, this requirement of disclosing a disability could very well be disastrous. At the very least it could possibly open those who are already vulnerable to exploits to further vulnerabilities.
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