Corepharma ???

[Tominal]

Well, I was given about half corepharma/half barr by CVS last time I filled my prescription. I'd read this thread, and was a little afraid I'd hate the core's. But I lucked out--I prefer them slightly to the Barr's. Onset of action seems to be slightly longer, but they seem to last a bit longer too. More importantly, the cores just seem cleaner--less of the edginess I get from Barr. Frankly, it feels more like vyvanse, which I actually prefer to adderall. They both work for me though, so it's not critically important which one I get. Still, there does seem to be a difference and since the perceived difference was the exact opposite of what I anticipated, I'm less inclined to think it is purely psychological.

Everyone is unique. Whether legally "equivalent" or not, there are differences between the tablets produced by different manufacturers using different fillers, release mechanisms, etc. There are variations in active ingredient levels allowed by FDA (plus or minus). Whether those differences actually make any real-world difference seems to depend on the drug and on the individual who is taking the drug.

So, if you get Cores when expecting Barrs, don't assume they will definitely suck. They might not suck for you. Then again, they might.

[cunanse]

I just went out to Walgreens to refill today just to see how they stand up. They were definitely different. Bumpy start with a nervous jumpy edge for the first two hours, then a dramatic smooth-out. It works for me, I guess. I only take as needed, so it ends up being all basically the same.

[Sloan]

Originally Posted by Tominal

Well, I was given about half corepharma/half barr by CVS last time I filled my prescription. I'd read this thread, and was a little afraid I'd hate the core's. But I lucked out--I prefer them slightly to the Barr's. Onset of action seems to be slightly longer, but they seem to last a bit longer too. More importantly, the cores just seem cleaner--less of the edginess I get from Barr. Frankly, it feels more like vyvanse, which I actually prefer to adderall. They both work for me though, so it's not critically important which one I get. Still, there does seem to be a difference and since the perceived difference was the exact opposite of what I anticipated, I'm less inclined to think it is purely psychological.

^^^
I agree with this statement.

Corpharma generic adderall and Vyvanse are nearly identical with its effectiveness.
And to be brutally honest, I can't stand either one of them.

I'll stick with Barr because I haven't found anything that worked better for me in treating the symptoms of ADD.

[PhoneGirl8k]

Hi,
I'm posting some prices that I found out recently.
I paid (CVS) $30 for 30 tablets - 10 mg. Adderall generic / Barr --they give an extra discount if you have the autoclub (AAA) card. (reg price for 30 tablets is $36)

Costco quoted 30 mg for 200 tablets $46 generic Adderall ( I did not know about mfg info when I got the quote, thank goodness I found this site.)

PS. YOU DO NOT NEED A MEMBERSHIP TO USE COSTCO PHARMACY OR SAM'S CLUB PHARMACY. You just tell them at the gate you are going to the pharmacy.

So I know no one wants to ask a Doctor for a 200 count prescription, but this is a big deal. I'm as broke as can be, no insurance and I can't afford $36 a month. But if I could get the 30mg and cut them in half, that's 400 days. If I had to bring the pills in every meeting with my doctor so he could count them, I totally would just to get the price break.

[madcownews]

I joined this forum because I just spent three weeks in hell taking corepharma "generic adderall.”
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Nor do I believe that to be a matter of "individual chemistry."
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I have taken brand adderall for about six years, and switched to generic after the price of my monthly scrip (30mg 60x) went over $200 (no insurance.)
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While not altogether happy with the results(i have taken teva and barr) I had no doubt that I was, at least, taking an adderall equivalent.


I do NOT believe the corepharma i was given is in any way a generic equivalent to adderall, even by the relaxed rules someone here said are used by our supposed federal "watchdog" agency, the FDA.
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I am not a ‘chronic complainer,’ but this experience was so bad, and the side-effects so deleterious that I have decided I am not going to take it lying down.
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I want to have the corepharma pills I have left tested to see if I’m right.


If anyone on this forum can suggest how to go about that, I’d be grateful. Thanks.

[esskay]

Hi Folks:

Okay, after 30 days of living hel* I'm posting my own findings. For those of you who stated it really depends on each person, you are correct. I got my latest refill of generic 20 mg IR adderall from CVS, and it is the Barr version. It has left me depressed, experiencing panic attacks that last for at least several hours, and the inability to make a decision when given several choices of action. On the CorePharm version I never had these problems. Also, I know it is the Barr brand that causes this because I've switched back and forth, taking the version from Walgreens (CorePharm) for 60 days, then the CVS/Barr brand, and each time with the latter the effects are the same: very hard crash, break though of my treatment resistant depression, general confusion and anxiety, and social phobias, etc. It's awful.
However, I do understand that for a lot of you, the reverse is true. I guess my message is this: if you are just starting on treatment, if one brand doesn't work, try another the following month. Work with your Dr. and Pharmacist to get the right med at the right dosage.

PS, fwiw: on the Barr, the only thing that relieved the break through depression was another adderall pill. They don't keep me awake, so I'm not concerned about insomnia, but I am concerned about running out faster as well as addiction (since I'm practically taking the med round the clock, along with Cymbalta once a day and Trazadone at night). So if you are in the same boat, be careful! Reduce your dosage occasionally to help keep the tolerance devil at bay.

Esskay

[Josh_kelly]

Its hard to compare Vyvanse to Adderall because the active ingredient is not the same. Vyvanse has the same formula as Dexedrine, Procentra, Liquaad and Dextrostat which is dextroamphetamine (one ingredient).

Adderall is made from dextroamphetamine and 3 other amphetamine salts:

1.Dextroamphetamine Saccharate
2.Amphetamine Aspartate Monohydrate
3.Dextroamphetamine Sulfate USP
4.Amphetamine Sulfate USP

Adderall was developed because the 3 other ingredients work faster than dextroamphetamine. They also metabolize at different rates making it last longer and with less crash than dextroampthamine (IR). But these three extra chemicals contribute to adderall side effects which is Peripheral nerve stimulation (PNS) like increased heart rate, jitteriness, tics, sweating, increased body temperature...


Yes, Generics must have the same active ingredients (80-120% of the amount is acceptable by the FDA).

Generics effect can be different because of the binders and fillers that effect its release in the body which is I think is the key to its effectiveness. If its released too fast you will experience symptoms of over stimulation (jittery, nervous, anxious, confused,...etc). It would also go out of your symptoms so fast that you experience big crash.

Imagine having a glass of wine every hour over 12 hours or so. You would feel alot better than drinking the whole bottle in 15 minutes.

Once the patent for the active ingredient expires, generic companies can copy the formula but binders and fillers which were developed by the brand manufacturer specifically for the active ingredient to be the smoothest release with the most benefit and least side effects are considered trade secrets that generics can't touch. usually brand manufacturers spend billions of dollars on research and clinical trials to workout every angle of the drug. Because they put their reputation on the line.
Generic companies don't care, they will combine the active ingredient with the cheapest binders because they are not required to do clinical trials.

When people experience side effects from the generics, generic companies deny any responsibility and blame on the brand manufacturer.

[savage116]

Originally Posted by kitti30

weird...just goes to show everyone's personal chemistry is different...u have to do what is best for u

Totally agree this topic is crazy!! I hate the Barr they make me feel sleepy and depressed or sad. Corepharma is the way for me.

[Amberw22]

Wow, I just read all of that. I've been taking Barr 30mg and while I like the initial kick to get me going, it makes me feel medicated. Like I had too much coffee. After about 100 phone calls I finally found a pharmacy that carries Sandoz. I hope it works!

My Doc told me that generic meds only have to work 80% as well as brand. He also pointed out that how well it works is sort of subjective b/c how can you even quantify that your add is 80% as treated as it was on brand name. Not to mention side effects.

I wonder if I give my pharmacy an Rx for 30 pills, if they can split it b/w all the manufactures they have in stock so I can see which works best.