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Old 02-28-04, 09:44 PM
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Canadian Psychiatrists should be educated on ADD/ADHD

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I am so disappointed with our Canadian Health Care System, because that most of our medical doctors do not believe in ADHD in Adults. I am stressing psychiatrists that don't keep up with the latest information for ADHD. I was recently diagnosed with ADHD by a neuro-psychologist back in December 2003. He told me to see a psychiatrist to help me with medication. Anyway, I waited 6 weeks to see a psychiatrist and gave him my report from my pyschologist. Well, the psychiatrist questioned the testing methods of my psychologist and the psychiatrist said that ADHD is only prevalent in children. I told the psychiatrist that I was tested for 8.5 hours in a hospital and he said that he believes I don't have it. He thinks I have a mood disorder. I was furious because he never acknowleged my psychologist report. This assessment was paid by the Alberta Government and is documented on my file. I was so mad, I cancelled all appointments with him and made an another appointment with a doctor that was recommended from the CHADD Website in Edmonton. I am looking forward to meeting this doctor because all my life I have suffered harshly from the education system, workplace and from my peers. I want to get on with my life and live it normally and peacefully instead of being restless.

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Old 02-28-04, 09:58 PM
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I can feel your frustration but I would like to go to bat for the two doctors I have been dealing with. One being a psychiatrist, who deals only with ADDult ADDers and the other being my medical doctor, who openly admits his limited knowlage on ADD but is more than willing to listen to the patient and read the info provided by the patient.

I cant dispute what you say but I can give a big pat on the back to mky 2 doctors

and

I Am Canadian

also

I do not have a disease
I do not Have ADD

I am ADD

so that makes me a CanADDian

I AM CanADDian
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I feel for you, galexica2020. When I went to a GP to get referred to a psychiatrist for what I believed was ADD he didn't think it was likely that I had it--but he sent me to a psychiatrist anyway.

I lucked out, though. Not only did that psychiatrist deal with many ADD patients, he was ADD himself!

Hope you have better luck with the new doc you're going to see... keep us posted.
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Ugh I know just what you mean. It's taken me forever to find a doctor that would perscribe me a medication other than Ritalin. Actually, my previous doctor thought I was hoping to get Dexedrine for "recreational purposes", I've found that a lot of doctors seem to be mistrusting here in the maritimes. Luckily I've found one (that's an hour trip away by ferry and bus) that actually knows something about ADD.

I'm worried about moving soon though. I'll have to either go back to my old doctor in Ontario who didn't know anything about ADD, or go to another doctor who might try sending me to a Psychiatrist or trying to get me back on the Ritalin which doesn't even work.

If my doctor was perscribing me the Dexedrine in my old place of residence, can the new doctor deny me the medication?
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After moving, my new doctor asked why, after 40 yrs of everything being fine, did I need Ritalin? I sat there with my mouth wide open and just gawked at him. 40 yrs of everything being fine? He met me 5 minutes before. Nice guy but lacking in some things. Like finding out that I had been diagnosed 5 years before and had finally made some progress with work, marriage and home.
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I can certainly relate to your frustration, Galexica. I was jerked around for over 4 years before I was finaly diagnosed , also by a neuro-psycologist, this past May. The first psycholgical couselors who suspected ADD weren't qualified to do testing. When I tried talking to my family doctor, he just wouldn't believe in the possibility of ADD. Luckily, he left his practice and his replacement was more open minded and she was able to refer me to a psychiatrist. But the psychiatrist sort of got me off track by suggesting I may have Tourette's and wanted to refer me to a neuro-psychologist who could diagnose me. I felt I was being led on another wild goose chase and didn't contact the neuro-psychologist for another several months. I found out later that I had misunderstood the psychiatrist. Aapparently, the neuro-psychologist also did AADD testing and the psychiatrist was onlly hinting at the POSSIBILITY of Tourette's; I may actually have ADD. Well, why didn't she explain that to me clearly in the first place. It would have saved me months of anguish.And to make matters worse, my diagnosis cost me $500 because my private health insurance excluded anything to do with psychological treatments.
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I spent about 5 years struggling at Queen's University, and BEGGING FOR TESTING, to only be repeatedly refused testing.

It is SO HARD to get listened too. (ESP for people who are not HYPERACTIVE.)


I feel like suing Queen's University, i am so angry with their DISABILITY Office delaying me. (Finally i found an alternate way to get Tested...)

The lost years and lost income and the fact that this Disorder has almost taken my life, several times, makes me bitter. Um, yeah.


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Hi ALL:

I am so disappointed with our Canadian Health Care System, because that most of our medical doctors do not believe in ADHD in Adults. I am stressing psychiatrists that don't keep up with the latest information for ADHD. I was recently diagnosed with ADHD by a neuro-psychologist back in December 2003. He told me to see a psychiatrist to help me with medication. Anyway, I waited 6 weeks to see a psychiatrist and gave him my report from my pyschologist. Well, the psychiatrist questioned the testing methods of my psychologist and the psychiatrist said that ADHD is only prevalent in children.
Perhaps he needs to have the research, not some of it, all of it, faxed to him. (you see, us inattentive types can be downright sneaky and devilish!)

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I told the psychiatrist that I was tested for 8.5 hours in a hospital and he said that he believes I don't have it. He thinks I have a mood disorder. I was furious because he never acknowleged my psychologist report. This assessment was paid by the Alberta Government and is documented on my file.
They don't believe because they do not want to. They've been brainwashed by all the disinformation out there!

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I am looking forward to meeting this doctor because all my life I have suffered harshly from the education system, workplace and from my peers. I want to get on with my life and live it normally and peacefully instead of being restless.
Galexica

For all their so called education, Doctors are some of the most stubborn and elitist people I know. They are fequently unwilling to admit they could be wrong and far to willign to pull out the Hypocratic Oath and use it to deny treatment.

I knew 30 years ago I had ADHD and it took me until last year to get a diagnosis. Now that I have a diagnosis, its difficult for me to get the right dose because I have already exceeded the Candadian Guidelines for Dexedrine. One expert told me I should be psychotic, but then noted that I was sitting calmly in front of her! She proceeded to do nothing to help solve the problem.

One of the problems is that we (adults with ADHD) probably know more about our own disorder than some of the phsycians that treat us. I know, I have been funnenling reports and researach papers to my GP for over a year now. I think some of it is finally getting him to take a second look at some of these issues.

Fortunately I have a psychiatrist who supports me fully , but now its the rulings fo the College that work against me getting propper and complete treatement.

You realise that those doing research projects involving kids with ADHD, have been treating their parents for the disorder far longer than they've admitted to the world that they kenw adults could have the disorder. That is shameful!

I'll stop now, because I just get angrier and angrier the more I think about it.

Keep fighting! don't give up! Doctors are said to be the most diffiult patients! One other thing, keep yourself educated about the latest researach on ADHD. There are some intesting develepments, especially for adults.

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If your doctor does not "believe" in ADD/ADHD, you could ask them if they believe in "Executive Dysfunction", or Frontal Lobe problems.

I seriously doubt they would say No to that question.

Other disorders also feature Frontal Lobe dysfunction.

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Interesting thoughts to share ... Right now I have a picture of the “who's who” in when talking ADD. The problem is accessing them, there are no available psychiatrists Montreal dealing with ADDers and even though I find myself lucky to have support from a number of individuals the system seems to be built so that you don't access the professionals.

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The other thing I have learned is that a psychiatrist will not help you to deal with the healing process he will however be the guardian of your chemistry and the evaluation master (Which is why you need to have someone who is familiar with ADD), you need a psychologist to do the essential part (Working on your sanity. >>

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One other thing: in this province you can be a psycho therapist WITHOUT ANY PROFESSIONNAL BACKGROUND. So when seeking for help look for a psychologist not a "psycho therapist">>

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It is SO HARD to get listened too. (ESP for people who are not HYPERACTIVE.)



The lost years and lost income and the fact that this Disorder has almost taken my life, several times, makes me bitter. Um, yeah.

Oh my gosh, Emma, TELL ME ABOUT IT!!

As far as I'm concerned, the state of psychiatry these days is SHOCKING!!!!! How is it that I frequently know more about the disorders I discuss with these doctors than they seem to??? How can that be permitted by a profession?? I don't understand. It all makes me SCREAMING mad !
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Not everyone keeps up with Current Research.

If you want to approach the ADHD topic with a Psychiatrist, it might be better to ask if they BELEIVE IN "Executive Dysfunction", rather than "ADHD/ADD".

Tip: Try to get a Psychiatrist who (a) has been educated in North America (not a 'Foreign Medical Graduate'; they tend to fail their exams; given the shortage of shrinks, this is tolerated; European-trained doctors tend to 'not beleive' in ADHD), and (b) has graduated in the 1990s (or more recently), so they will be more likely up to date on the current ADHD Research.

Also, Psychiatrists who are always 'taking patients' are often the bottom of the barrel. Why? Their patients have dumped them. Bad, nasty or useless doctors can't keep patients.
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It is probably time for some political action. We've all been ignored long enough! The only way to get things done is to make noise! And its true, the groups who have gotten most attention for low profile issues have been the ones that have made the most noise.

The question is are we read to become politically active in our own cause? Even the most unpopular groups have been able to accomplish much because of their willingness to write letters, ask questions, and demonstrate!

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The more you look around, the more you'll find qualified, caring professionals that know their **** when it comes to adhd. They're a rare breed, usually centered around bigger cities, but they exist. You need to look around very, very hard, and expect ridiculous wait times. But it's worth the effort.
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galexica - there are many good psychiatrists and doctors in alberta and in canada generally. But as there are bad mechanics and plumbers there are bad medical professionals. Every profession has its bad apples and they tend to ruin the bunch from first sight.

I got lucky first out the gate. My doctor is younger and had been informed about ADHD. He wouldn't just Rx me - which is great - but rather passed me to a fantastic psych in Lethbridge (nearest to me at one hour's trip). He also was younger and had been trained in both ADHD treatment and Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT) - the best behaviour modification treatment that works wonders for me at least.

The trick is don't go to the older medical people. That sounds anti-logical as it used to be the older ones were more experienced but they tend to be resistant. The younger ones got the ADHD info in university and aren't usually so gun shy about Rxing the meds we need.

I hope you keep looking and find a good one. It's good to shop.
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