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Old 03-15-18, 04:23 AM
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Re: Is there anyone else who can't accept their diagnosis?

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honestly yea, i doubt my adhd diagnosis

only because of the non severity? of the disorder in certain perspectives

buts its a confusing disorder that desperately needs delineated with it's new definitions

its no longer about losing our keys, its much,much,much more than that
I think there is a big gap between the points listed in the DSM and what ADHD really is. I think it might be because those are just diagnostic criteria rather than a comprehensive description of ADHD.

I lose my keys all the time but yes ADHD is so much more than that. So much more insidious than that. It robs you of the ability to lead a full and fulfilling life. Every day is a battle between me and ADHD (or whatever it is that I have) and most days I lose in so many different ways. I think there's a reason why depression and anxiety are the two most common comorbids for adhd (according to Barkley).

I know a lot of people don't like delivered from distraction but I think that book gives a really good picture,a description, of what it's like to live with ADHD. I recognised myself on everyoage of that book. It was like reading my biography.

The diagnostic criteria seem.like random troubles that someone has picked out. Rather it seems like they listed all the trouble that people with ADHD have and identified the ones that occurred most commonly, which isn't a bad way to go about it but it's incomplete and doesn't give the full picture.

I don't think the diagnostic criteria need to give the full picture of a disorder as they are just that but people including psychiatrists I suspect get so hung on on them that they confuse diagnostic criteria with the actual full representation of the disorder. The result of that is the triviliasing of ADHD.

Most disorders and diseases don't do this. Eg one of the diagnostic marker of prostate cancer is the prostate specific antigen amount in your blood. But your problem is not that you've got too much of this protein in your blood. That's not causing the problem. The tumour inyour prostate it.
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The diagnostic criteria seem.like random troubles that someone has picked out. Rather it seems like they listed all the trouble that people with ADHD have and identified the ones that occurred most commonly, which isn't a bad way to go about it but it's incomplete and doesn't give the full picture.
Fuzzy, I'm thinking that with the field that you work in, this aspect of diagnosis must be particularly frustrating.

Also it seems we have some similar symptoms; and so as a parent when you're there in your home, besides the actual caring for/playing with Fuzzling, you are just otherwise surrounded by EVERY POSSIBLE MINDLESS TASK THAT'S ALSO ESPECIALLY DIFFICULT WITH THESE SYMPTOMS, but that many people find easy and don't even think about it.

And so we beat ourselves up needlessly, and the fact that we have a particular skill and a job in a specialised field, yet which is totally useless in "daily life", suddenly means absolutely nothing.
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I know a lot of people don't like delivered from distraction but I think that book gives a really good picture,a description, of what it's like to live with ADHD. I recognised myself on everyoage of that book. It was like reading my biography.
I'm reading this book now, and the first story (chapter 8) is already so recognisable, that i think things like: 'well that's normal, they make a problem out of nothing, i did that 10 times worse, the parents overreacted on adolescant behaviour, it's the typical USA culture where things have to be exaggerated and perfect, and so on'.

My grades went down on high school also, my parents even made me change school because 'they misjudged my intelligence', but it all came down on me being a terrible child for picking the wrong friends, wanting the wrong things, being lazy and moody... it never occurred to any adult that maybe i'm not having bad interests or lack of 'the right motivation'. And so i felt guilt and shame for who i was all my life... and tried to compensate that later on by doing work i didn't really like but it got me some respect.

So reading books like this takes away a lot of doubt about the diagnose.
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Re: Is there anyone else who can't accept their diagnosis?

Delivered From Distraction was the first book I read when I was learning about
adhd. I cried and cried and cried . . . because I wasn't a freak, a moral failure,
lazy or crazy. I had a real problem, a real doctor described ME.

I think the concern people have with this book and the follow ups is that the
doctor seems to think of stimulants as the last resort instead of using them
along with other treatments for the best overall treatment. It shouldn't have
to be one-or-the-other, it can be anything-and-everything that helps.
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Re: Is there anyone else who can't accept their diagnosis?

I'm flip flopping between feeling like it's all in my head and feeling like I'm not in control and/or don't realize what I'm doing. My strongest defense mechanism has been denial. That's always been so easy that it's hard to let it go. I haven't been formally diagnosed yet but all the fights, confusion, anger, self loathing...all of it makes sense through the lens of ADD. It also makes intuitive sense to me that I'm just making excuses for not thinking about what I say and/or do before doing it but I'm already doing it before I realize it and I'm yelling & angry again and just wish everyone would just calm down but I'm dictating how they should feel when I should just control my own emotions so I'm guilty about screwing up everyone's day and get quiet...

I'm right there with you!!
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There must be a smart latin name for this kind of illusion.

I have sleep issues, and whenever I pull 2 weeks with healthy sleep pattern I start to wonder: Hey, I am actually OK, it's just a matter of good hygiene/sport/mood, I am great in fact.

And then aunt Reality comes over.
there's a Greek word that comes close, but isn't really about being in denial but it often feels like people take lacking insight that way: anosognosia.

I know it's not quite the question asked but I can relate to not accepting a diagnosis, just not my ADHD one. I think being diagnosed as a kid might play a role in that.

Overall I still don't really believe I'm mentally ill on some level. But then I just spent five plus weeks inpatient so I'm trying to just stay afloat and set things aside that aren't constructive. My being right doesn't outweigh my having a small girl. I still think I'm right, but I try not to fight it so aggressively because that does me no good.
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I know that I have it 100000%!! I'm satisfied that I have a diagnosis now- can't believe it's been 8 years since finding out! The feeling of knowing that it has a name was such a relief! It's helped put the puzzle pieces together. As I get older I hate it more and more though. ADHD (along with other issues in my signature) have cost me way too high a price.
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I think there is a big gap between the points listed in the DSM and what ADHD really is. I think it might be because those are just diagnostic criteria rather than a comprehensive description of ADHD.

I lose my keys all the time but yes ADHD is so much more than that. So much more insidious than that. It robs you of the ability to lead a full and fulfilling life. Every day is a battle between me and ADHD (or whatever it is that I have) and most days I lose in so many different ways. I think there's a reason why depression and anxiety are the two most common comorbids for adhd (according to Barkley).

I know a lot of people don't like delivered from distraction but I think that book gives a really good picture,a description, of what it's like to live with ADHD. I recognised myself on everyoage of that book. It was like reading my biography.

The diagnostic criteria seem.like random troubles that someone has picked out. Rather it seems like they listed all the trouble that people with ADHD have and identified the ones that occurred most commonly, which isn't a bad way to go about it but it's incomplete and doesn't give the full picture.

I don't think the diagnostic criteria need to give the full picture of a disorder as they are just that but people including psychiatrists I suspect get so hung on on them that they confuse diagnostic criteria with the actual full representation of the disorder. The result of that is the triviliasing of ADHD.

Most disorders and diseases don't do this. Eg one of the diagnostic marker of prostate cancer is the prostate specific antigen amount in your blood. But your problem is not that you've got too much of this protein in your blood. That's not causing the problem. The tumour inyour prostate it.
Different but similar:

I always think of my mom as she didn't have a cough when she was diagnosed with stage IIIB lung cancer. IV is the last stage.

I get really enraged when I see the most common symptoms for it and cough is always #1. Mostly because maybe it would've been caught early if she had a cough and gone to the doctor.
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Re: Is there anyone else who can't accept their diagnosis?

I wonder if how I was treated as a kid caused the symptoms that earned me a “fake” ADD label, or if my real ADD caused me to be treated the was I was as a kid. This one gets me more than trying to decide if the chicken or egg came first.
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I wonder if how I was treated as a kid caused the symptoms that earned me a “fake” ADD label, or if my real ADD caused me to be treated the was I was as a kid. This one gets me more than trying to decide if the chicken or egg came first.
Yes interesting question... yet if you got ADD because of how you were treated, at least one of your parents could very well have untreated ADD, and since it's most likely to be genetic.... i think the chicken came first ;-)
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Yes interesting question... yet if you got ADD because of how you were treated, at least one of your parents could very well have untreated ADD, and since it's most likely to be genetic.... i think the chicken came first ;-)
Funny, I am sure my mother is undiagnosed ADD-I and my father is undiagnosed bipolar.
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