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Old 09-23-12, 09:28 PM
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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

For the non-Canadians, the *real* young'uns, and those who haven't yet had the pleasure:

ADHD + $$$ ≠ no-ADHD -- but assuming one isn't living totally "off the grid", it can definitely help.

- Treating ADHD generally costs money (meds, therapy, etc.).

- Having money in savings can help cushion people from ADHD-induced financial blows (crashed car, late fees, etc.).

- Not having to worry about being able to afford the basics removes major sources of stress and anxiety (and sometimes paperwork and logistical details) that might otherwise make life more difficult to manage.
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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

i think this song sums it all up in my professional opinion. great song

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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

I go back and forth on the whole money issue because most people I know who have a lot of it tend to be douche nozzles. That being said I wouldnt mind having enough to pay off all my debts and get my bills current so I could start at $0
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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

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My belief is that money DOES make you happy, and without it we, or at least I, am nothing. And I believe that it's actually a cure (but not literally) for all my ADD, depression and anxiety problems.
Depends on what's causing your depression and anxiety I suppose. Not being able to feed yourself or pay rent is certain to cause stress and anxiety. But not even being ultra rich will give you zeal or self-satisfaction with who you are and what you're doing (or not doing) with your life.

I'm financially stable. It helps for acquiring meds which is a huge bonus, I admit. But money itself has never made me happy. I'm certainly not nothing without it. It's just another tool like any other. In fact, the chief reason I'm financially stable is because I spent years saving my income because I couldn't bring myself to leave my home and spend it.
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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

There have been social science studies that show that money ITSELF doesn't make you happy, but that security does. So basically, I think that living in poverty or close to it makes you stressed and depressed (and takes a toll on your overall physical and mental health), having enough makes you financially secure and able to focus on other areas of your life without as much worry, and beyond that, you're just trying to "buy" happiness with material possessions, which doesn't work.

In short, I think money buys peace, to a point.
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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

A lack of money can be a killer but having a lot of money doesn't cure anything. It probably causes more harm for many people IMO.

Money is like a stimulant medication, having the right amount really helps but too much can become addictive, greedy and self centered behavior.

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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

Its important to know the difference between security and material goods.,
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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

I feel that money is just another form of energy.

I was raised without much of it, was homeless for a while without any of it, worked my a** off in various reputable, along with many unimaginable ways to acquire some of it, and thankfully am in a space now where I don't have to spend each minute of each day worrying myself sick about it.

The choices we make when we have it as to where and what we exchange it for comes back to us, just like all the rest of the energetic exchanges we choose to partake in.

Sometimes, it seems having more of it simply leads to seeking more and more external solutions vs. tapping into the internal ones that seem to offer a much greater reward, based solely on my years of personal experiences.

It also reminds me of the Ted talk I saw a while back about the paradox of choice...how we always think having more choices will mean more freedom:

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Psychologist Barry Schwartz takes aim at a central tenet of western societies: freedom of choice. In Schwartz's estimation, choice has made us not freer but more paralyzed, not happier but more dissatisfied.
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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

Having it a cure? Dunno, never had enough to know.

Not having it a killer? The stress will potentially take years off your life, result in high blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, kidney failure, and so on, so you tell me.


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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

Money can't completely cure my particular adhd cause it also affects me socially. Can't buy friends and loved ones that are genuine anyway.

But does it help my life, hell yes. I've hired people to clean, bought out at restaurants, paid a laundromat to wash my clothes back when I couldn't get myself to do them, bought a condo near my workplace so I don't have to drive and accidentally kill myself.0

Also, it let me really focus to solve one adhd weakness at a time as I could hire out for all my chores except the one I wanted to try and improve on. It's so much easier to overcome one problem at a time.

I saw a chart once on happiness versus money. It basically showed when surveying a number of people, that money did indeed increase happiness up to I think around $100,000. After that, it didn't really increase happiness.

That makes sense to me cause you are at a point where you don't need to worry financially when you have that income. After that amount, more money won't help you as much cause you've already got enough.

For adhders, I'd think that dollar amount would be even higher. So we don't have to work, clean,cook,drive, etc. Whatever gives us stress, we give to someone else to do.
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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

Money is only a tool which can make our lives easier or can make it worse. It's not curing anything and as Missy said, it does give someone many more choices. Choices which could make life better and some Adhd symptoms seem less troublesome, noticeable or impairing but they aren't gone or cured.

Some with money would make good choices making life more beneficial and many of us would not.

Perhaps money could help or rid some of co-morbids like anxiety, or depression caused by years of financial distress.
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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

The anxiety caused by not having enough money for food, safe, decent housing and basic needs, all at once, and not being able to afford some emergency expense, is simply overwhelming.
beyond that, no I dont think that money can buy you happiness.
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Re: Money - Is having it a cure? And a lack of it a killer?

Money can definitely help with treating ADHD. But the money doesn't do the work itself. You have to wisely use money.

I know a guy who was a long-time alcoholic. He blew through like $300,000 of family inheritance as a drunk. He sadly can't remember what the hell he spent it on. And yes, he definitely has ADHD but he wasn't treated for it. Complete waste of money. He used money to escape and not to improve his life.

I'm not sure I would have used money well at a younger age. I think I could use it more wisely now because I've developed a lot of good coping skills--partly in response to not having a lot of money.

There is a famous TED talk on happiness by the Nobel-Prize-Winning psychologist Daniel Kahneman, who identifies at least two forms of happiness:

1. In-the-moment happiness ...

2. Overall satisfaction with life ...

Kahneman found that there was basic income of about $65,000 ... above which people didn't experience any greater moment-to-moment happiness. But the further below $65,000 you went, the more moment-to-moment misery people reported. (On overall satisfaction with life--not how happy you feel in the moment--the more money you made, the more satisfied people say they are.)

These findings are all broad conclusions based on averages. There is obviously individual variation.

The name of this TED Talk is "The riddle of experience vs. memory."https://www.ted.com/talks/daniel_kah...ence_vs_memory


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