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Re: School Projects and Parent Help

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Adhd is actually underdiagnosed especially in girls.I think a lot of people think its something easy to walk in and walk out with a diagnosis. Sure, there are people who are misdiagnosed but its sort of more of a myth that is so easy. But youre right, a doctor must rule out all other things before coming to the conclusion that its adhd. Many doctors dont worry about those distinctions and would rather slap any old label on someone less they look incompetent.
You know, I would go as far as saying that doctors should not disclose the terminology of the diagnosis to the patients. Instead of saying "she has ADHD" the doctor should say "your daughter's attention span is deficient, way below average, so we'll get her some Dexedrine for attention".

The wording of the diagnosis can cause confusion people who go to the doctor like they go to the mechanic to get their car fixed, and don't know much about how the brain works.

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You know, I would go as far as saying that doctors should not disclose the terminology of the diagnosis to the patients. Instead of saying "she has ADHD" the doctor should say "your daughter's attention span is deficient, way below average, so we'll get her some Dexedrine for attention".

The wording of the diagnosis can cause confusion people who go to the doctor like they go to the mechanic to get their car fixed, and don't know much about how the brain works.
I logged on here late night after a really busy week plus of not having the luxury to do so, with the plan to catch up on some reading for my and a few other threads I was reading.

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Things that worked for me to lessen homework load (as a kid in advanced classes with an IEP) were reduced workload (helps with the busy work, especially in subjects that she grasps well). What that looked like for me was doing every other math problem in order to show that I understood the concept, but not beat that concept to death.

That obviously doesn't help with the writing. I write very well, but I also can take a long while to organize my thoughts, especially for longer projects. I don't know that having an extra day or two to work would've helped me any (I am an inveterate procrastinator), but having someone to bounce ideas off of would have.

The index cards are supposed to help kids organize (especially those who have trouble with the structure and function of writing). Unfortunately, standard ways of doing things often don't fit non-standard thinkers.
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Things that worked for me to lessen homework load (as a kid in advanced classes with an IEP) were reduced workload (helps with the busy work, especially in subjects that she grasps well). What that looked like for me was doing every other math problem in order to show that I understood the concept, but not beat that concept to death.

That obviously doesn't help with the writing. I write very well, but I also can take a long while to organize my thoughts, especially for longer projects. I don't know that having an extra day or two to work would've helped me any (I am an inveterate procrastinator), but having someone to bounce ideas off of would have.

The index cards are supposed to help kids organize (especially those who have trouble with the structure and function of writing). Unfortunately, standard ways of doing things often don't fit non-standard thinkers.
That's where my son and daughter both are. Standard ways of doing things are not working for them. My son was finally able to get in classes that have linear teaching. XYZ happened. you will be tested on XYZ. The classes he use to have were more of a free thinking style of teaching asking the students:
1. Why do you think Mercutio died in Romeo and Juliet?
2. Could it have been avoided?
3. What resulted from his death?

My son didn't understand what the teacher wanted. His responses would have been literal:
1. Because he had a sword in his chest.
2. Maybe if he had moved to the side he could have avoided the sword.
3. He was dead.
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My son didn't understand what the teacher wanted. His responses would have been literal:
1. Because he had a sword in his chest.
2. Maybe if he had moved to the side he could have avoided the sword.
3. He was dead.
Any one of the students in the classes I frequent would answer those questions exactly the way your son did. Fortunately, the teachers are tuned in, and redirect/prompt/poke/prod the kids into the more abstract lines of thought.

Part of that is just maturity, however. Kids develop the ability to think abstractly at different ages (from as young as 11 to still struggling to grasp them as adults). If you're not ready, then you're not ready. That's what makes math classes like algebra a challenge as well. If you can't understand what a variable is, it's very difficult to do well in a class that is nothing but abstraction with variables.
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Any one of the students in the classes I frequent would answer those questions exactly the way your son did. Fortunately, the teachers are tuned in, and redirect/prompt/poke/prod the kids into the more abstract lines of thought.

Part of that is just maturity, however. Kids develop the ability to think abstractly at different ages (from as young as 11 to still struggling to grasp them as adults). If you're not ready, then you're not ready. That's what makes math classes like algebra a challenge as well. If you can't understand what a variable is, it's very difficult to do well in a class that is nothing but abstraction with variables.
I once asked him why math was his favorite and best subject and he said "Because there is ONE answer." He's 14, last year is when he was diagnosed with ADHD and it was me jumping up and down saying "He is failing three classes but has an A in advanced Math you can't tell me something isn't wrong here!"
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Re: School Projects and Parent Help

Funny...mine likes math too! She has to work at it but does really well..Never in a million years did I think math would be one of her best. She also has a knack for grammar too, which is difficult so I am told for some.
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Re: School Projects and Parent Help

There are so many "it dependses".

I don't think it's always clear why one thing and why not another, though I'm sure there are some general trends.

I ended up with a strength in language (grammar, spelling, vocabulary, foreign languages, etc) and a major weakness in spatial and visual.

So, I may be a bit of a language master, but in terms of space I'm definitely not a master - more like one of those novice space trainees... what were they called again... Oh yeah - I'm a space cadet.
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You know, I would go as far as saying that doctors should not disclose the terminology of the diagnosis to the patients. Instead of saying "she has ADHD" the doctor should say "your daughter's attention span is deficient, way below average, so we'll get her some Dexedrine for attention".

The wording of the diagnosis can cause confusion people who go to the doctor like they go to the mechanic to get their car fixed, and don't know much about how the brain works.
I think in the case of a child the idea of going to a doc like someone who would go to the mechanic wouldnt apply.
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