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Zenzedi / Dexedrine Prescription duration

I am currently on Adderall. My doc can give Rx for 3 months (it is 3 separate prescriptions, each with a date denoted).

I read on Zenzedi/Dexederine (Ref: https://www.iodine.com/compare/vyvanse-vs-dexedrine) that the doc can only give for one month total? Maybe I am reading into it too much and it can be as well for 3 months, can anyone clarify? (I dont want to pay for a doc visit each month, and if thats the case for Dexedrine I have to think it over before switching to Dexedrine)
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Re: Zenzedi / Dexedrine Prescription duration

Another question: While I like Adderall IR. I take 30 mg per day (split dosages). I like that it keeps my appetite in check (otherwise I binge on food like crazy even though I'm just right skinny). Vyvanse has exact same effect on my weight/eating. I like Vyvanse more because I "feel" good plus get motivation. Adderall I dont like that a) it causes me hairloss, b) I get motivation but do not "feel" as good as on Vyvanse. I feel bit cranky instead and I feel my IQ goes down.

Zenzedi/Dexedrine is same base molecule as Vyvanse (pure D-Amphetamine only), whereas Adderall is a mixture of 4 amphetamine salts. I suspect the Amphetamine Sulfate and Aspartate (that Adderall has) causes me 'peripheral neuropathy' problems which contribute to hairloss. It takes me longer to heal from sport injuries/scratches as well.

Thats why I am considering Dexedrine since at least on paper exactly what I want. Vyvanse without the extended release part.

What are others experiences on peripheral neuropathy or hairloss from Dexedrine / Zenzedi?
Experience on weight loss, is it exactly same as Adderall or Vyvanse?
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Re: Zenzedi / Dexedrine Prescription duration

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Maybe I am reading into it too much and it can be as well for 3 months, can anyone clarify?
Schedule 2 scripts can be postdated up to 3 months, and I doubt there's anything special about Dex that prohibits that practice.

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(I dont want to pay for a doc visit each month, and if thats the case for Dexedrine I have to think it over before switching to Dexedrine)
Some doctors let you pick up refill scripts from their secretary. Or the doctor can send the refill script electronically to the pharmacy.

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I suspect the Amphetamine Sulfate and Aspartate (that Adderall has) causes me 'peripheral neuropathy' problems which contribute to hairloss. It takes me longer to heal from sport injuries/scratches as well.

Thats why I am considering Dexedrine since at least on paper exactly what I want. Vyvanse without the extended release part.
I'm curious what makes you think that aspartate is bad? I searched it up online, and it's essentially just a protein building block.

And I think sulfate is a pretty common ion. It's probably in your water supply that you drink. And btw, Dexedrine has sulfate as well.

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What are others experiences on peripheral neuropathy or hairloss from Dexedrine / Zenzedi?
Experience on weight loss, is it exactly same as Adderall or Vyvanse?
I've had Adderall, Vyvanse, and Dexedrine. Overall, they all seem pretty similar. Definitely no personal experience with hair loss or peripheral neuropathy. Though they all sometimes decrease my peripheral circulation a bit (I think Adderall was a bit worse).

I actually think that Vyvanse had the strongest effect on reducing my appetite, followed by Adderall, and then Dexedrine. But the Vyvanse was a while ago, so maybe I was just at a weird time in my life when my appetite was shot (I had depression/anxiety).
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Re: Zenzedi / Dexedrine Prescription duration

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I am currently on Adderall. My doc can give Rx for 3 months (it is 3 separate prescriptions, each with a date denoted).

I read on Zenzedi/Dexederine (Ref: https://www.iodine.com/compare/vyvanse-vs-dexedrine) that the doc can only give for one month total? Maybe I am reading into it too much and it can be as well for 3 months, can anyone clarify? (I dont want to pay for a doc visit each month, and if thats the case for Dexedrine I have to think it over before switching to Dexedrine)
There is absolutely no reason why you wouldnt be able to get the dexedrine the same way the vyvanse is dispensed. They are both schedule II narcotics, and both amphetamines. Your doctor may want you to come in to pick up the script but this isnt like having an appt. Many doctors will want to see you ever 3 months or so.
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Re: Zenzedi / Dexedrine Prescription duration

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I like Vyvanse more because I "feel" good plus get motivation. Adderall I dont like that a) it causes me hairloss, b) I get motivation but do not "feel" as good as on Vyvanse. I feel bit cranky instead and I feel my IQ goes down.
Being that adderall, vyvanse and dexedrine are all amphetamines, IF you did have neuropathy related to one of these drugs.. you would have it with all of these drugs. A quick search turned up this:
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amphetamine aspartate; amphetamine sulfate; dextroamphetamine saccharate; dextroamphetamine sulfate and Peripheral sensory neuropathy - from FDA reports
There is no Peripheral sensory neuropathy reported by people who take drugs with ingredients of amphetamine aspartate; amphetamine sulfate; dextroamphetamine saccharate; dextroamphetamine sulfate yet. This review analyzes which people have Peripheral sensory neuropathy with drugs with ingredients of amphetamine aspartate; amphetamine sulfate; dextroamphetamine saccharate; dextroamphetamine sulfate.
This was at the beginning of a study but I do not have an acct and couldnt access the summary. There are vaso-constriction issues with amphetamines like raynaud's syndrome but specifically neuropathy related to amphetamines? I do not buy into that. Very often what happens with amphetamines is you do not drink enough or eat the right foods which compromises your immune system and extraneous things like skin, hair and nails. Having something happen with your hair MUST be checked out by a doctor. It can be a sign of something serious so just assuming that its related to amphetamines based off of the internet is fool hardy.


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Zenzedi/Dexedrine is same base molecule as Vyvanse (pure D-Amphetamine only), whereas Adderall is a mixture of 4 amphetamine salts. I suspect the Amphetamine Sulfate and Aspartate (that Adderall has) causes me 'peripheral neuropathy' problems which contribute to hairloss. It takes me longer to heal from sport injuries/scratches as well.
Actually, that is not entirely true:
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Lisdexamfetamine:
Lisdexamfetamine (contracted from L-lysine-dextroamphetamine) is a substituted amphetamine and an inactive prodrug of the central nervous system (CNS) stimulant dextroamphetamine that is used in the treatment of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and binge eating disorder.[6][7] Its chemical structure consists of dextroamphetamine coupled with the essential amino acid L-lysine. Lisdexamfetamine itself is inactive prior to its absorption and the subsequent rate-limited enzymatic cleavage of the molecule's L-lysine portion, which produces the active metabolite (dextroamphetamine).
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