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View Poll Results: Do you consider your external environment as part of your body?
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Re: Do you consider your external environment as part of your body?

Oxygen, etc, can exist without the ability to shoot.

But the ability to shoot cannot exist without Oxygen, etc.



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Re: Do you consider your external environment as part of your body?

Could a person experience PTSD without an environment?

Could a person experience getting shot without an environment?



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Re: Do you consider your external environment as part of your body?

Everything seems to have physical components?

There does not seem to be anything that exists alone?



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Everything seems to have physical components?

There does not seem to be anything that exists alone?



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The external environment and/or Mother Nature seems to meet the criteria for existing alone don't they?
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Could a person experience PTSD without an environment?

Could a person experience getting shot without an environment?



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Yes, we experience the environment. Or it's effect on us.

That's not the same as being part of our body. IMO.
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I said no on the poll because I would consider my body to mainly be a part of the external environment.
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I said no on the poll because I would consider my body to mainly be a part of the external environment.
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I said no on the poll because I would consider my body to mainly be a part of the external environment.
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Although I think your still saying ,yes, I consider the external environment is part of my body.

I agree. I think the way you are saying it, is even a more accurate, there are external environmental parts of our bodies that evolved first.

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The external environment and/or Mother Nature seems to meet the criteria for existing alone don't they?
External environment and/or Mother Nature consist of many parts.

I myself can't think of any thing that works alone, without some type of relationship with something else?



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My body could not exist without an environment, and my environment is pivotal, generally, but in terms of the "old fashioned" notion of body in medical books - the physical stuff, inherently my body and environment are mutually exclusive. I would rather "my environment" be shot than "my head"

I've read and believe I fully understand the contradictory arguments presented, but I welcome further discourse in case I'm missing something.
I do not think they are mutually exclusive.

My external environment and my internal body's environment would have to exist to be shot.

But reading your post, I cannot help but think I am missing things.

Order of evolution verse individual self experiences? (I am not sure?)

Environmental evolution survival?

Species evolution survival?

Individual evolution survival?

I am not sure.....?

Interesting discussions something about the individual self to think about, thanks.

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Re: Do you consider your external environment as part of your body?

I am sure our bodies required oxygen to survive before it was called a medicine.

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The use of oxygen in medicine become common around 1917.[8][9] It is on the World Health Organization's List of Essential Medicines, the most effective and safe medicines needed in a health system.[10] The cost of home oxygen is about 150 USD a month in Brazil and 400 USD a month in the United States.[3] Home oxygen can be provided either by oxygen tanks or an oxygen concentrator.[1] Oxygen is believed to be the most common treatment given in hospitals in the developed world.[11][1]
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Re: Do you consider your external environment as part of your body?

I think your question can be answered either way depending on how you word the question. If you answer it from an anatomical perspective, a body has parts that have been formally defined by science - like arms, etc. Conversely, the "stuff" that makes up a body includes atoms acquired from the environment and vice-versa, among other symbiotic relationships (something like that - someone less ignorant on life science might explain it differently/better).

You mentioned Phineas Gage; he's a good argument against having "free will", another fun philosophical topic =>)
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You mentioned Phineas Gage; he's a good argument against having "free will", another fun philosophical topic =>)

That sounds like so much fun!

(Which is really interesting, because technically I did not hear with my ears any sounds from you, when I read your post.)

I have never decided to discuss free will before.

I will start another more specific thread discussion, so I do not derail this thread discussion.



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