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Re: I left my son at home this morning without a ride to school
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All teens go through this phase of sleeping late ... but not all of their parents have to walk them to the shower and stand outside the door until they know a shower is actually happening. That's adhd. If that works for you and your teen, that's great. If getting the kid breakfast and meds to get them awake and going in the morning works for them, that's great too. Parenting is difficult. Parenting teens is way difficult. Parenting teens with adhd is even more difficult. The last thing we need is judgment from other parents that we're "spoiling our kid." My adhd granddaughter didn't want to oversleep and be late for school ... but nothing she tried, nothing we tried, seemed to get her awake and going. She has severe adhd. She is beyond motivated, and gets herself to work now, is even working two jobs. I guess she grew out of that phase.
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Thanks I never thought of that before. I usually take medication when I am suppose to get up in the morning. And I’ve tried taking medication an hour earlier in the morning and go back to sleep. I find it worked great when I took the medication and went back to sleep. (I usually got up within a hour or so.) But I felt the days were cut short, when I took medication and went back to sleep? So I take medication when I wake up. M
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Re: I left my son at home this morning without a ride to school
Given that teenagers need 8 to 10 hours of sleep per night, and that adolescence causes a shift of the sleep cycle so as to result in later falling asleep and later waking from sleep, it makes sense.
Cheers, Ian
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Yes, we want to do everything we can to encourage the child with adhd to be self-reliant. Why is bad to help a child get started in the morning by giving them breakfast and meds ... but it's not bad to oversee them taking a shower, standing right outside the door because they aren't able to be self-reliant enough to do it on their own? Why is one bad and the other isn't? ![]()
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What do you think the long term effects of giving my son one cup (250 ml) of orange juice at 5:30 AM, and setting the alarm for 6:00 AM to wake him up again in case he falls asleep during the weekdays will be? mildadhd
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Re: I left my son at home this morning without a ride to school
I just asked my son.
And he said the sugar in the orange juice helps wakes him up. He wondered if some eggs, with his orange juice, might also give him a little more long term energy throughout the day? mildadhd
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Re: I left my son at home this morning without a ride to school
Difference between not wanting to do a thing, and not being able to is a big one, but it's very tricky and hard to differentiate, even for someone struggling with it.
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But my point is, if getting up in the morning is an issue due to ADHD, no amount of "training" will create a "habbit" of not "sleeping in", that's why it's called an issue, you need to work with it, not against it (that can only make it worse), if you (your kid) need to be up-and-at'em at 7:00, waking up at 6:30 won't do, at least 6:00 is necessary, maybe even 5:30 (depending on the severity of the issue or morning routine time needed), so if it takes you 60min after an alarm to get up, then that's how it is, fighting against such an issue usually just makes it worse, work with it, not against it. Hope it helps, best of luck.
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Re: I left my son at home this morning without a ride to school
"Self-discipline" is not going to fix a teenager's ADHD-related issues with sleep. Neither will parental nagging. What is needed is strategic change in the environment/structure/routine to trick the ADHD mind into a better sleep pattern.
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I did the shower thing when he was 6, he's now 15 and when I come to his room to wake him up he gets up and into the shower without prompting. On mornings he sets his own alarm he follows the same pattern, get out of bed, stumble to the shower. I leave the house right after i wake him up now, and 99% of the time he makes the bus just fine. I taught him a pattern of behavior that he can do now, in 5 years, in 10 years..etc, to get himself ready for the day because it only involves HIM. Lunacie asked why is one bad and the other isn't? You are either preparing your kid for something they can do themselves, or you are providing a crutch that can and will disappear when they are on their own. That's why I think one is preferable to the other, however, bringing your kid breakfast isn't child abuse or anything. I'm just very pro on the "figure out what you need to do, in order to get around your ADHD issue". |
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But you didn't say you left and came back. Sorry I didn't infer that. What Fraser was suggesting was taking some breakfast and meds to the kid and letting him go back to sleep for 30 minutes ... until the meds kick in. The meds tend to squash the appetite so this way the kid gets some food in him before starting his day. He wasn't suggesting letting the kid sleep until he wants to get up.
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