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Old 01-11-17, 12:17 AM
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Re: Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria

I found another couple of articles.


This one by Dr. Charles Parker

http://www.corepsych.com/2013/06/dod...oria-and-adhd/

and this one by Larry Letich in Additude magazine. Wierd that I've always kind of avoided that site. Anyway, the comments after this article are reminiscent of my feelings upon this discovery. I am definitely going to pursue this much further.


http://connect.additudemag.com/group..._do_you_think/
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Do other experts of ADHD believe in RSD and support Dr. Dodson? I can't find any other info on it that's not attributed to him.

Does anyone know Dr. Barkley's take on RSD?
https://books.google.com/books?id=4B...tivity&f=false

i think he would believe it

maybe he doesnt call it by the same name, but in 'what the science says' he has interpersonal sensitivity as the second biggest issue in ADHD


i'm assuming there is a correlation between that and the named disorder
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https://books.google.com/books?id=4B...tivity&f=false

i think he would believe it

maybe he doesnt call it by the same name, but in 'what the science says' he has interpersonal sensitivity as the second biggest issue in ADHD


i'm assuming there is a correlation between that and the named disorder
Thanks for chiming in, where have you been?? OMG I thought you were gone.

Glad to see you're not.

BTW, I do think Barkley would also agree, perhaps not that it is another condition but that it is a piece of adhd, a big piece. I know I feel like I've got a name to point to and perhaps even some hope. This really holds me back.
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Thanks for chiming in, where have you been?? OMG I thought you were gone.

Glad to see you're not.
about as here as i can be, thanks for askin

you good?
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Yeah really good actually thanks for asking.
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Re: Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria

The thought process is narcissistic though, by the self-centered use of the word. Note that I did not say he's called me "a narcissist".
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The thought process is narcissistic though, by the self-centered use of the word. Note that I did not say he's called me "a narcissist".
in an incredibly generic , unrelated to any basis in psychology way, possibly

and honestly completely unhelpful

but an intense monitoring of your thoughts , inner world, actions,etc hyper vigilance to surroundings is a very well documented group of characteristics in people with issues regulating their emotions (shame comes to mind here)

i dont understand the point of grouping that in with haughty , glib, grandiose behavior ... as a psychotherapist its likely projection, theyre known for that
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He's using the term not as an adjunct to NPD, which I agree would be horrible, but as a way of noting that I've been very inwardly directed. That in the end is the the crux of what we're calling RSD: we get bogged down in our own perceptions of things so much that it's hard for us to see objective reality, especially when (without a diagnosis) objective reality sure does suggest that we're giant flaming sacks of crap.

In the end, just because you think you hate yourself doesn't necessarily mean you're not behaving narcissistically, at least from the common English language usage and not the clinical meaning.

As for further reading, I will once again plug "You Mean I'm Not Lazy, Crazy, or Stupid?". Chapter 3 talks about coping mechanism the undiagnosed use and how it affects us.
I think it's really important to be careful with notions of interchangeability ADHD is already so stigmatized, to begin to say that well over 90% of us display narcissistic traits, is deeply horrifying in this sense. Which is why I'd probably give this therapist a piece of my mind but also walk on out.

I work every day with people who have multiple diagnosis. These are people coming out of jails into care. I like my job, it's challenging and mentally stimulating for me. Being around people who are mentally ill, and many severely so, makes me really cautious about mis-attribution which I think this would be classified as. I can understand how APD could be attributed but there's just too many of us. I'm skeptical.
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Re: Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria

No attribution happened at all - neither mis-attribution nor accurate attribution. The word "narcissistic" describing a thought doesn't at all relate to an NPD diagnosis.

But I see how the whole thing can be misconstrued and can accidentally sound horrible. It's an innocent clash of terminology, but probably should have been re-worded to prevent confusion.
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Well, I suppose it would depend. Does the person afflicted with rejection sensitive dysphoria typically display reactions to criticism that are similar to narcissistic injury?
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Re: Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria

Oh my...

I had no idea this was a thing. Of course I can relate as a fear of rejection was such a huge part of my youth.

I will need to read up on this. Might be worth it for my sons.
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Well, I suppose it would depend. Does the person afflicted with rejection sensitive dysphoria typically display reactions to criticism that are similar to narcissistic injury?
Hmmmm, I don't think so, perhaps the pain is similar but the reaction to it bears the difference. i have witnessed narscisstic injury and yes I'd say it's very painful for the person but the cold manovering for revenge that I have seen over what seem minor slights is not something I see in adhd.

I think like physical pain, it just hurts.

What I notice about this adhd associated pain is how it holds me back. i won't apply for a job in the office. i know I could do the job, I know *'d even excell at the job but being around so many coworkers each day I cannot bear it. It would be too painful.
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