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What are the advantages of having ADHD?

Now that I am 100% sure I have ADHD, I would like to know the advantages of having ADHD so I can realize my full potential.
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Re: What are the advantages of having ADHD?

There are no advantages to ADHD in any way, shape, or form. Your potential is limited in some areas where other people's potential is not limited, and those limitations are exactly the definition of ADHD.

Your mission, however, is the same as any "normal" person's mission: to know yourself and to live the best life possible.
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Re: What are the advantages of having ADHD?

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There are no advantages to ADHD in any way, shape, or form. Your potential is limited in some areas where other people's potential is not limited, and those limitations are exactly the definition of ADHD.

Your mission, however, is the same as any "normal" person's mission: to know yourself and to live the best life possible.
DVD is correct. There are NO advantages to having ADHD despite what others here and elsewhere say. One can be creative and quirky without ADHD as we all know.

Nothing in the DSM is advantageous.

Nothing medications are created for is advantageous.

I want to "Like" this statement 1000 times!! "Your mission, however, is the same as any "normal" person's mission: to know yourself and to live the best life possible."
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Re: What are the advantages of having ADHD?

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Your potential is limited in some areas where other people's potential is not limited, and those limitations are exactly the definition of ADHD.
This idea is terribly sad to me. I would choose to believe you are only limited by your beliefs. ADD/ADHD people just have to get there differently. Find a work around/ coping skill and make it happen. Once you know your dx, you can find a way to cross your hurdles and get there.
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Re: What are the advantages of having ADHD?

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This idea is terribly sad to me. I would choose to believe you are only limited by your beliefs. ADD/ADHD people just have to get there differently. Find a work around/ coping skill and make it happen. Once you know your dx, you can find a way to cross your hurdles and get there.
Nope, sorry. There are things I will never be able to do, because of ADHD. That is not sad, because I can do other things instead - but it's still a fact.

Being honest is not the same as being negative. Saying "ADHD is a limiting belief" is dishonest, saying "ADHD is a choice" is dishonest, and that entire line of thinking is offensive to those who have it.
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Re: What are the advantages of having ADHD?

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This idea is terribly sad to me. I would choose to believe you are only limited by your beliefs. ADD/ADHD people just have to get there differently. Find a work around/ coping skill and make it happen. Once you know your dx, you can find a way to cross your hurdles and get there.
I would politely disagree. I have never met anybody without limitations in what they do.

CEO of one of my employers: From Iran. Serious AAAA+++ driven personality. Multi-millionaire. No ADHD, Asperger's or any other such thing. He could see so clearly that if we want to do better, we do THIS, and as much as he struggled, he could not develop adequate patience to deal with having subordinates who could not see things as quickly and logically as he did. He could read a person like a book, immediately identify what talent and lacks people had, could place a person in a perfect job. But could not make friends because he could not be patient and slow down. He had a lack.

There are gazillions of people in the world with no named disability who "just can't get math". In the modern world, this is as bad a dysfunction as dyslexia.

Whether the things you lack happen to fall under a named umbrella like ADHD or if they don't -we all have the same requirements: Figure out what we ARE good at, and capitalize on that, and don't depend on doing things we're not wired to do.

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Re: What are the advantages of having ADHD?

As dvdnvwls said, none.

ADHD, by definition, is a disorder.


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Re: What are the advantages of having ADHD?

Why the cold, negative responses?

To say that there is absolutely no upsides whatsoever is a complete fib that is told by people who perhaps haven't discovered theirs or have failed to identify what they are.

Being impulsive isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes choices need to be made right there and then. People who lack impulsiveness tend to be indecisive and unwilling to take any sort of risk. There is no reward when you take no risks at all.

Being inattentive isn't always a bad thing either. Sometimes people get so wrapped up in something, that they fail to see the bigger picture. Somebody who lacks attention to the finer details can be useful in identifying and maintaining the ultimate aim of the project.

There is always a flip side. Things that you consider negative about yourself can be useful in ways that you don't even realize.
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Re: What are the advantages of having ADHD?

Well, I just want to say how delightful it was to read the word 'fib' love that word.
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Why the cold, negative responses?

To say that there is absolutely no upsides whatsoever is a complete fib that is told by people who perhaps haven't discovered theirs or have failed to identify what they are.
I dont think that people who do not see a disorder as an advantage should be called fibbers- I think realists is a better term.

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Just because something isnt bad sometimes doesnt mean its a good thing. People with reading glasses can sometimes read fine if they hold the book up against their noses- but that doesnt mean they think that vision problems can be an advantage.

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I dont think the idea of adhd having advantages is about seeing or not seeing the bigger picture-I think its more about the disorder itself and all the impairments that go with it- which follows along with the guidelines set forth in things like the DSM .

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No, I dont believe this is true. If something is a negative most of the time to a point where medication is considered a good treatment for it- then looking at the times where it happened to work out is not a way to assess whether its good or bad. I am combined and bipolar. Sometimes when I am slightly manic in the 'up' way I am a blast to be with and I am having so much fun I cant even believe it.
People might say I am the life of the party. Its more like happenstance. Its not that adhd and bipolar are an advantage because sometimes my good mood or wild impulsiveness makes me fun to be around. I wouldnt ever think either is an advantage just because of those things- that would be a kick in the teeth, especially if someone else thought so and they werent me. I would feel invalidated-like my struggles arent really that bad and do not deserve medication because of the odd time or two that things were not a disaster.
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Why do you choose to judge them that way?

Those responses were factual, nothing more.

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To say that there is absolutely no upsides whatsoever is a complete fib that is told by people who perhaps haven't discovered theirs or have failed to identify what they are.
To say that there are upsides is willful self-delusion and refusal to accept fact-based reality.

ADHD is a disorder, by definition, full-stop.

One can pretend otherwise, but I don't recommend lying to oneself about the way things are in general, and more specifically when one has a neurodevelopmental disorder with potential consequences that are severe across multiple life domains.

You still get to live your life as everyone else, albeit with disability in function. You can be sad about that, but in time, all you are left with is doing it, as best as is possible for you.


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Re: What are the advantages of having ADHD?

It s a big hairy drag actually.

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Re: What are the advantages of having ADHD?

Yeah... nowhere in there did I say that schizophrenia/BPD/et al were not debilitating conditions. I said that they, too, had their positive or semi-positive sides, just like ADHD does. I did not say that the net effect of them was positive, or that people who have BPD or schizophrenia (or ADHD for that matter) live more fulfilled lives than people without these conditions. I understand that this is a passionate issue for you but you're putting words in my mouth.

As for the generalized anger there... perhaps I should cite my sources better but I'm pretty sure that the things I'd said about schizophrenia in particular are actually supported by current medical opinion on the subject, so perhaps your anger is better directed towards the psychiatric community rather than me.

Finally, no offense but this "think of how much better this person would be if they didn't suffer from X" line is a complete crock of ****, and not just as it pertains to ADHD either. I'm sorry, but you just plain cannot separate who a person is from their brain chemistry, or for that matter their upbringing or the coping and defense mechanisms they've built up for themselves over the years. You and everyone else aren't just the sum total of all these things as well as a bunch of other factors, you and everyone else in the world are the complicated result of the mixture between all of these things. Perhaps John Nash would have been an even more amazing genius if he didn't suffer from schizophrenia, but perhaps he would not have been a genius at all. The question is basically the same thing as asking "imagine how much happier Al Gore would be if he was a dog".
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Yeah... nowhere in there did I say that schizophrenia/BPD/et al were not debilitating conditions. I said that they, too, had their positive or semi-positive sides, just like ADHD does. I did not say that the net effect of them was positive, or that people who have BPD or schizophrenia (or ADHD for that matter) live more fulfilled lives than people without these conditions. I understand that this is a passionate issue for you but you're putting words in my mouth.
True, you didnt say they werent debilitating but the fact that you did say there were positive things about them (at least with regards to schizophrenia and Bipolar) to me is sort of downplaying the deficits they come with.

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As for the generalized anger there... perhaps I should cite my sources better but I'm pretty sure that the things I'd said about schizophrenia in particular are actually supported by current medical opinion on the subject, so perhaps your anger is better directed towards the psychiatric community rather than me.
So you are saying that current medical opinion supports the idea that there are positive things about adhd, bipolar and schizophrenia?

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I dont think there is anything wrong with looking at a person with a disorder, their successes and wondering how much more successful they would be without it. By definition these things are disorders because they are diagnosed by impairments and treated with things like medication to relieve those impairments. No one treats a genius with medication, or a successful person with medication if there are no impairments.
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Has this thread occured before? Deja vu is in full swing.

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